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| 298.1 | | SHALOT::WELTON | No Terrorist @ my SuperBowl | Tue Jan 29 1991 16:22 | 6 |
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You may want to take a look in TURRIS::PORTING_TO_ULTRIX.
later,
douglas
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| 298.2 | Investigate FUSE | KRISIS::reeves | Jon Reeves, ULTRIX compiler group | Wed Jan 30 1991 12:06 | 3 |
| C compilers are in a state of flux, but 'cc' will work for a first cut
(besides, it's included with your system). For other support tools,
look into FUSE (no, I don't know where it is).
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| 298.3 | esgnfo::fuse | COUNT0::WELSH | What are the FACTS??? | Fri Feb 01 1991 08:16 | 0 |
| 298.4 | | TOKLAS::feldman | Larix decidua, var. decify | Fri Feb 01 1991 13:33 | 24 |
| Some of the VAXset tools are being ported to Ultrix, to be called DECset. I
believe this was program announced a couple of weeks ago. Pay attention
to your favorite VAXset tool notes files for info on internal field tests,
some of which should be starting soon (i. e. weeks, or a small number of
months). (As a consideration for the various projects, look for old notes
first to find their latest info, as they get pestered about this frequently.)
TPU has already gone to internal field test. If you wish to do as the Romans
do, you'll find that vi and GNU Emacs are the most commonly used editors.
DEC C for Ultrix on RISC is your best bet, if you can find it. Check in the
VAXC conference for a pointer to the DEC C conference, the latter being
members only, unpublished. The C compiler currently shipping with Ultrix on
RISC isn't completely up to the ANSI C standard, and has problems with function
prototypes (at least the way we use them; you mileage may vary).
We've been using gcc (GNU C) for our Ultrix development, since it's closer to
ANSI, but it doesn't produce debugging information on MIPS yet. Until we get
DEC C installed, we debug either on VMS with VAX C or on VAX Ultrix with gcc.
The combination of gcc, gdb (the GNU debugger), and GNU Emacs works very well on
VAX Ultrix. (We're also in an unusual situation, since we're working closely
with consultants who run a GNU environment under VAX Ultrix).
Gary
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| 298.5 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | From Soul Cage to Last Battlefield | Sun Feb 03 1991 18:54 | 5 |
| Well, let's hope that the rest of the ports don't folllow TPU in being
RISC ULTRIX only. There's a fair few of us can't possibly afford a
DECStation when there's a prefectly good VAXStation 3100 sitting there.
- andy
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| 298.6 | Mis-directed anger | VMSDEV::KALER | VMS Advanced Development | Tue Feb 12 1991 10:59 | 13 |
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Re .5
Just so you know... As I understand it, TPU attempted to port to
VAX Ultrix. However, there is no native mode Bliss compiler. There
is one for MIPS (I'm pretty sure). The conversion tools, like
Ultrixize (?spelling) had problems with casing and global symbols.
So if you want TPU on VAX Ultrix, complain to the appropriate
sources (not TPU).
Christopher
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| 298.7 | No bucks, no product | EVETPU::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Tue Feb 12 1991 13:00 | 33 |
| Chris is right - we tried a port to VAX/Ultrix. Unfortunately, we have
no revenue-generating reason to do such a port - so far it's only DEC
employees that have VAX engines that really seem to want it. So when
we ran into some snags in the port, we decided not to pursue it because
the RISC/Ultrix and Motif ports were at risk - and they have
large-scale revenues attached to them by way of DECset and DECdecision.
Some midnight oil is burned from time to time on trying to get the
thing running, but we've recently run into disk space problems as well.
At this point, it's very doubtful that we could fit all three of the
RISC/Ultrix, VMS and VAX/Ultrix build areas into our available space.
So we are basically completely stalled at this point, because I will
not jeopardize our builds for the RISC/Ultrix and Motif work.
Recently we have received an offer from an employee with some midnight
time available. He's looking into the possibility of working on the
VAX/Ultrix port for us. He has our best wishes, and our blessing, and
that's about all the hope we have for getting TPU on VAX/Ultrix.
Of course, this could all change tomorrow if UEG decides that they
really would like a proven editor, with XUI and Motif interfaces,
running on VAX/Ultrix. We try now and again to change their minds, but
so far the interest has been nil.
Better yet, we might become a real product, sold independently of the
operating system. That would also attach some revenue to VAX/Ultrix,
at least from our installed base.
So, the bottom line Andy, is that it depends upon the bottom line. We
have no business reason to port TPU to VAX/Ultrix. We do have business
reasons to port to other platforms/interfaces.
- Chris
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| 298.8 | | OZROCK::MCGINTY | Truffle prefers vi | Thu Feb 14 1991 05:57 | 10 |
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re: .5
.7 says it all! It would appear that only DEC itself is either too
poor, or too stupid to buy VAXstations to run ULTRIX. It seems that
our customers are smart enough to buy DECstations, and so don't run
into this lack of support for VAXen.
DECset and FUSE are ULTRIX/RISC only, but I have been through this
all before in both the ULTRIX and MARKETING notes files.
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