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Conference turris::languages

Title:Languages
Notice:Speaking In Tongues
Moderator:TLE::TOKLAS::FELDMAN
Created:Sat Jan 25 1986
Last Modified:Wed May 21 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:394
Total number of notes:2683

154.0. "how much is xyz.lang ?" by CEODEV::FAULKNER (tickets, going going gone....) Thu Nov 19 1987 16:06

    Can anyone quote me a source to show what percentage's of what
    languages are used in the world?
    
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154.1An opinionCOMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSWed Nov 25 1987 11:0128
    This is a diificult one to answer: probably the best source for
    an analysis would be the number of licences we sell - at least in
    so far as DEC customers are concerned (but beware of the possibility
    that not all users are properly licenced).
    
    However, some general off-the-cuff answers:
    
    Fortran and Pascal are probably the most widely used scientific
    languages - I have no idea is what relative ratios, but the constant
    fiasco over FORTRAN standardization may effect things.
    
    COBOL is probably the most widely used commercial language.
    
    However: Ada usage is probably increasing exponentially; PL/I and Algol
    68 are on the way out. MODULA 2 is being increasingly used
    in real-time environments, but I thing Ada will win, especially
    when there are more well-trained programmers for it available. I
    doubt that there is much future for APL.
    
    So-called 4GL languages will probably flourish, but there are so
    many of them that it is difficult to see any eminence there (FORTH
    maybe?).

    No doubt there will be plenty of people who will disagree with that
    - please don't accept it as being in any way authoratitive - just
    my personal views. BTW I support Ada, Pascal, PL/I and APL for UK
    Country Support (I'm not too sure about the latter two!). When I
    program and have a choice, I use Ada.
154.2DCC::JAERVINENDon't make your personal name too longThu Nov 26 1987 04:525
    You forgot C (my pet hate language [it's not a language but a mental
    sickness]).
    
    :-)
    
154.3Aaaaaarrrrrrggggghhh!!!COMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSThu Nov 26 1987 05:053
    I always try to forget C. I'd rather live on a desert island than
    be forced to program in that wretched abortion of a language. I
    hope it will go away.
154.4DCC::JAERVINENDon't make your personal name too longThu Nov 26 1987 05:392
    So do I, but I think we're going to loose...
    
154.5Oh yeah? Well, your mother wears army boots!SMURF::REEVESJon ReevesWed Dec 02 1987 09:248
    Whatever you may think of its syntax (I happen to like it), C remains
    the only widely available language suitable for systems programming.
    Alas, there's too much poorly documented C code out there, and that
    may warp some people's view of the language.  C, like APL, is a
    language that has powerful tools that may tempt the novice into
    writing unreadable code, but C can be well structured and readable.
    
    Now, where did I put that asbestos suit...
154.6We have other notes for language flamesMOIRA::FAIMANOntology Recapitulates PhilologyWed Dec 02 1987 09:4711
    Not that I would want to discourage language wars, but we already
    have a few notes devoted to them.  Notes 8, 54, 87, 97, and 130
    might be appropriate.  Let's leave this note for discussion of
    its original topic:

>      Can anyone quote me a source to show what percentage's of what
>      languages are used in the world?
    
    Thank you.
    
    	-Neil (moderator)
154.7Hope the moderator allows thisWELSWS::DODDFri Dec 18 1987 05:2411
    Surveys are published occasionally I don't have one to hand.
    Opinions follow.
    
    The bulk of the world application code is COBOL or FORTRAN.
    Assemblers of various flavours probably account for at least as
    much.
    Surveys usually ignore PCs (so do we!) where I suspect the majoriyty
    is BASIC. An awful lot of minis use BASIC ( VAXes and RSTS etc).
    UK schools write BASIC... A much underestimated language.
    
    Andrew Dodd UK SWAS Welwyn