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Title:How to Make them Goodies
Notice:Please Don't Start New Notes for Old Topics! Check 5.*
Moderator:FUTURE::DDESMAISONSec.com::winalski
Created:Tue Feb 18 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4127
Total number of notes:31160

4027.0. "Pavlova?" by OZROCK::MOORE (Stephen Moore) Tue Feb 14 1995 04:58

    Hi,
    
    My father has a burning desire to know where pavalova (sp?) orginated.
    
    Does anyone know?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Stephen Moore
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4027.1NOVA::FISHERnow |a|n|a|l|o|g|Tue Feb 14 1995 05:583
    wasn't that one of the Russian Ice Dancers?  Or was it a tennis player?
    
    ed
4027.2The Pavalova question lives on...OZROCK::MOOREStephen MooreTue Feb 14 1995 06:508
    It is actually a dessert dish in New Zealand and Australia which we
    believe was named after a ballerina by the same name. We would like to
    know whether it is a dish exclusive to "down under", and if so from which
    of these two country's did it orginate.
    
    We expect this question to appeal to some local patriotism!
                                                                  
    Steve.
4027.3pavlovaPENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Feb 14 1995 10:0016
	What a coincidence this is!  We gave a birthday dinner party
	for a friend of mine from NZ on Saturday and were discussing
	pavlova at some length.  She was showing us a dish she has
	for it.  Another of my friends had had pavlova in Ireland, and
	was considering making it for the party, but didn't end up
	doing so.  Anyways, my NZ friend does not know from which country
	it originates, and in fact, suggested that trying to determine
	that could possibly start some sort of a war.  8^)

	I have forwarded the question off to the woman who had it in
	Ireland, as she quite fancies researching such things.  

	By the way, it is indeed named in honor of Anna Pavlova.

	Diane
4027.4a recent development or a traditional ethnic food?APLVEW::DEBRIAETue Feb 14 1995 10:255
    
    	And what is this dessert dish like?
    
    	-Erik
    
4027.5PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Feb 14 1995 11:3810
    
>>    	And what is this dessert dish like?

	Sorry - I should really have called it a plate, not a dish.
	It's very flat and rather large in diameter.  I don't know that
	it's specifically made for pavlova.  In fact, I rather doubt it,
	but she had purchased it with that specific use in mind while
	she was in NZ, because it's not that easy to find such flat
	plates over here in the States.

4027.6Similar to Baked AlaskaPOWDML::VISCONTITue Feb 14 1995 12:295
    I've had Pavalova in Australia, at a friends house, if I remember
    correctly it is similar, but not identical to a Baked Alaska.
    
    Regards,
    Jim
4027.7What's in it? What's the texture?VAXUUM::FARINATue Feb 14 1995 12:319
    If Erik didn't mean:  What's the dessert itself like?, I do!  What's
    the "dish" (not the plate - the ingredients) like?  I remember hearing
    about Pavlova from a Swiss chef I worked for, and we might have served
    it once or twice as the dessert of the day, but I don't recall much
    about it other than the name (since I love ballet).  Can you help with
    that part?
    
    
    Susan
4027.8VAXUUM::FARINATue Feb 14 1995 12:363
    Notes collision, Jim.  Thanks!  I vaguely remembered that there was a 
    light, airy something in it like merangue or whipped cream, but that
    was it!  --S
4027.9STAR::MWOLINSKIuCoder sans FrontieresTue Feb 14 1995 12:5710
    
     Pavalova is an Aussie dessert that is a meringue that is baked in a 
    round form like a springform pan and topped with whipped cream and 
    fresh fruit. It can also be baked free form and then topped. The 
    story goes that it was first made fro the ballerina Pavalova by 
    some famousAussie chef or at least that's what my historical Aussie 
    cookbook says.
    
    -mike
    
4027.10according to ChambersPENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Feb 14 1995 13:543
	Her name was Pavlova, not Pavalova, and the dessert is pavlova,
	with a small "p".

4027.11STAR::MWOLINSKIuCoder sans FrontieresTue Feb 14 1995 14:2614
    
    
    Rep .10 Di
    
    
    >>>Her name was Pavlova, not Pavalova, and the dessert is pavlova,
            with a small "p".
    
    
     PICKY, PICKY, PICKY!!!!  ;-)
    
    
    -mike
    
4027.12GIDDAY::BURTLet us reason togetherTue Feb 14 1995 17:5713
We in the antipodes have resorted to calling it "a pav"   :^p

It's very similar to a bombe Alaska, but without the special effects.

Meringue base, fresh cream, and fresh or preserved fruit is the tradition.
I've also seen them done with the fruit substituted with jelly chrystals, 
"sprinkles" etc.
The meringue should be tinged beige on the crust, and soft in the centre,  
It's an ultra-sweet gooey mess (and very nice, too)


Chele    

4027.17Pavlova's origin lives on...OZROCK::MOOREStephen MooreWed Feb 15 1995 06:048
    Thanks to all for their replies - still not resolved whether it is a
    New Zealand or an Australian dish - suppose we'll just have to
    resign ourselves to the fact that it's Australasian (i.e. both New
    Zealand and Australia).                    
    
    Regards to all,
    
    Steve.
4027.13sounds similar to a pie plateAPLVEW::DEBRIAEWed Feb 15 1995 12:298
    
    	Yes I wanted to know the ingredients of the dessert. It didn't even
    	occur to me that your 'dish' could be a 'plate'. :-)
    
    	Both sound nice. Perhaps on a rainy day I'll try making one (the
    	dessert that is). Thanks...	
    
    	-Erik
4027.14PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsWed Feb 15 1995 14:246
        >>               -< sounds similar to a pie plate >-

	A pie plate?  You mean that you cook a pie in?  If that's
	what you mean, it's not similar.  It has no sides.
  
4027.15GEMGRP::gemnt3.zko.dec.com::winalskiCareful with that AXP, EugeneWed Feb 15 1995 17:584
I've corrected the spelling on the note title, for the benefit of 
those using DIR/TITLE.

--PSW, COOKS moderator
4027.16Gar�on, pavlova for 12, please.OHNO::CASSELLSNooke...Just did it!Thu Feb 16 1995 05:118
My sister always uses a pizza dish to bake the pavlova base on.
Mind you, this would make enough pavlova for about 12.  The most
important ingredient is Kiwi Fruit on top - tastes of nothing, but 
looks great!  ANd the fresh whipped cream should be slightly sweetened
with a dash of Scotch (allows the cream to be whipped just that little
bit further without it turning).

Mike.
4027.18ow do you make it?MRKTNG::CUIPATue Jun 06 1995 16:303
    Where is the recipe???????