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Conference turris::cooks

Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Tue Feb 18 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4127
Total number of notes:31160

3975.0. "Swiss Roll" by KERNEL::SMITHERSJ (Living on the culinary edge....) Tue Sep 06 1994 12:17

    
    Anyone any tips for making swiss rolls and not cracking them?  2 common
    problems with cracking sponge is that you don't whisk enough air into 
    the mixture or that you add too much liquid.  I don't believe either of
    the above applied to me and yet I cannot roll the sponge without it
    cracking.
    
    I have a fan oven - I wonder whether I should of lowered the
    temperature to that in the receipe which was for a conventional one.
    
    For those who don't know what a swiss roll is, its a sponge mixture 
    baked in a wide shallow tray which you then fill on cooling with
    jam, fruit, cream etc and roll up.  The ice-cream version is known
    as artic roll which I particularly like.
    
    julia
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3975.1TOOK::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dog face)Tue Sep 06 1994 12:2612
>    I have a fan oven

Otherwise known as a convection oven?

Could be the problem. I have one, and, until I got a Nesco-like roaster
it was the only oven I had. I was totally unable to make a decent loaf
of bread due to the fact that the crust tended to begin to dry before the
final rising completed during baking. My brother who's worked in QC for
a commercial baking company for years confirmed that covection ovens
are lousy at bread/cake baking for this reason.

-Jack
3975.2it never cracked at home...MROA::MAHONEYTue Sep 06 1994 12:339
    That is widely known in Spain as "brazo de gitano" or "gipsy's arm)
    
    My mother used to make it almost weekly and it never cracked... I don't
    have her recipe because she never used any, but her rolls were... out
    of this world! she filled it with a lemon sauce, or white cream and she
    always used powder sugar and cinnamon on top (for decoration) it kept
    well for couple of days...
    Oh, those memories...
    Ana
3975.3SUBURB::MCDONALDAShockwave RiderTue Sep 06 1994 12:3611
    I would concur with Jack.
    
    My wife covers her cakes and sponges with foil, and only toward the end
    of the baking process will she take the foil off for light browning.
    Without the foil, the surface of the cake/sponge/bread gets
    cooked/dried/burn't etc well before the middle.
    
    We didn't think it worth it to splash out the extra �100 for the ovens
    where you could turn the fan off.
    
    Angus
3975.4Sounds good, but......KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Tue Sep 06 1994 12:576
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    Doesn't the fact that you are opening the oven door to take the foil
    off cause the sponges to 'fall'?
    
    julia
3975.5SUBURB::MCDONALDAShockwave RiderWed Sep 07 1994 05:146
    Dunno, I'm not the sponge baking expert. All I know is when she cooks a
    sponge its covered until the last few minutes. I guess, by the time she
    gets around to uncovering the sponge it effectively cooked with all the
    air trapped within the structure of the sponge.
    
    Angus
3975.6Jelly RollsPOWDML::FLETCHERFri Oct 07 1994 15:259
    Hi,
    
    I believe another name for those type cakes are jelly rolls.  I used to
    make them quite frequently and never had a problem.  What I used to do
    is take it from the pan while still warm and place on dish towel, fill
    it and then roll.
    
    Hope that this helps.
    
3975.7Try this for the dry cakeBSS::B_YOUNGWIRTHMon Oct 10 1994 18:409
    In Colorado, the air is very arrid, making this a rather common
    occurence.  Whenever I bake a cake, I always put a pan of hot water in
    the over when I first turn it on to start to warm up.  Then, by the
    time I put the cake in, the inside of the oven is humid enough to
    prevent the cake from drying out.  This has always worked for me.  Hope
    it helps you out.
    
    Barb