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3683.0. "Carlisle BBQ Cook-Off" by LEDS::MCCULLER () Wed Nov 04 1992 17:29

    
    October 11 of this year was the official Massachusetts Annual
    Pig & Pepper Harvest Day. This translated into a competitive 
    BBQ cookoff sanctioned by the Kansas City BBQ Society. As one
    who participated this year and saw the crowds who took advantage
    of this public event, I thought it would be interesting to readers
    of this notesfile to get an idea of what actually goes on during
    one of the competitive cook-offs.
    
    Reply .1 to this note is an article I wrote after the most recent
    event. As our first shot at competitive cooking "in the field", I
    learned A LOT about what to do/not to do.
    
    As a point of interest, this one-day event becomes a two-day event
    starting next year, with the first day being a New England Chili
    Cookoff and day two remaining a competitive BBQ cookoff.
    
    Hope you enjoy
    
    Mac McCuller
    
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3683.1Our First BBQ Contest!LEDS::MCCULLERWed Nov 04 1992 17:30111

                     Our First BBQ Competition
                                 
                           Mac McCuller

                      Smoke Rats Team Leader

    It felt strange telling our New England friends we would be gone 
    for the weekend to the "Carlisle Pig & Pepper" BBQ cook-off.  It's  
    the sort of activity that demands explanation, since many of them 
    only associate BBQ with my backyard offerings!  After 2 weeks
    of worrying, planning and packing, the Smoke Rats team spent the  
    morning of the set-up day borrowing a truck and renting a 
    tent in preparation for what promised to be an exciting weekend
    of smoking meats and meeting new friends.  We arrived early 
    and were able to give the tent assembly the two attempts necessary 
    to finally get it set up straight in the location pointed out by
    Bob Rosenburg, the P&P organizer.  Two trips to the house and two
    hours later, we were officially set-up and killing time until 5:30,
    when we planned to fire up our 55 gallon drum smoker. We used this 
    time to get our brisket, ribs, chicken and pork shoulder looked
    over by Bob Rosenburg, since cooking at the P&P had to start with
    fresh, untreated meat, and getting the marinading/rubbing work
    underway.  By late afternoon we were looking around us at the 
    other amateur groups getting set up, and starting to wonder 
    why in the world we had agreed to compete.  We saw enormous,
    elaborate truck-towed smoking rigs, many with flags, banners,
    whistles and smokestacks generally associated with huge factory
    boilers!  Most looked like they were engineered for BBQ.  All of 
    them looked like lean, mean, serious BBQ machines.  As my team 
    (wife, daughter, son and cooking-partner Carl Cave from Nashua)
    and I wandered through the cooking area and chatted with the
    competition, we became more and more uneasy about the wisdom of
    challenging our BBQ prowess against these well-equiped BBQ
    masters.  We were even more impressed when the professionals
    (vendors) started showing up.  Their huge rigs were complemented
    by full time staffs!  When one of them strung up three full-
    sized pigs on electric spits, I sat down on my bench and
    gave the whole situation a moment of well-deserved thought.
    Time for a team meeting.  After some heated discussion, we
    came to the conclusion that we were really there just for fun, 
    and the chance to learn more about BBQ---and boy, were we getting
    that opportunity!  After this meeting, our spirits were much
    improved.  Could of improved even more if we were not set up in 
    a State Park with absolutely no adult libations allowed!
    By now, it was time to fire up the smoker and get the Smoke
    Rats competition officially underway.  We hit the ground running,
    and had the brisket and pork shoulder in the smoker about an
    hour later.  After that, it was kick-back time except for our
    hourly open-the-smoker, check the temperature and fire.  The
    hourly checks were essential, since our fire was built into
    the inside of our 55 gallon drum, away from the meat.  Didn't
    take us long to realize that most everyone else had an off-set
    fire box built onto their rigs, and outside thermometers (ours
    was a simple kitchen oven thermometer, sitting on the grill next
    to the brisket).  Hmmm.  Well, checking the fire hourly kept us
    out of trouble (and sleep) the entire night!  Have to check into
    that off-set fire box, though...
    Things were pretty quiet for the next 5-6 hours.  Met some
    real nice people, traded some lies, and generally started to
    calm down from the hectic pace of that morning.  We got the
    coffee started on a small grill set up in the middle of our
    cooking area for warmth and general cooking, and settled down
    for a quiet night of tending the 'que and keeping awake.
    Well past midnight, a battered pick-up truck rumbled into
    the field and stopped.  It was a late arrival who had to work 
    all day before they could drive up to the competition.  Working
    in the dark with a small lantern, several of us helped this
    fellow unload an old, rusty-looking 75 gallon oil tank from his
    pickup.  He and his partner spent the next 45 minutes constructing  
    their grill using bolt cutters, a sledge hammer and what looked like 
    old bed springs. Talk about primitive!  Eventually, they got
    their fire going and we drifted back to our cook site to shoot the
    breeze with the famous Johnny St. Laurent and crew, who also arrived
    late after their rig jack-knifed on the way down from Maine!
    Shortly after dawn, other contestants started showing up,
    many of whom sported simple smoker-kettles and other such basic
    backyard BBQ gear.  One fellow appeared in the cook area behind
    us with a Weber grill, a stool and a chicken under his arm!  We
    watched him build his fire, rub down his chicken, and settle down
    on his stool with a book.  At 8:00 AM, a "cooks meeting" was held
    on the lawn and we were carefully briefed by the folks from the
    Kansas City Barbeque Society (this was a KCBS-sanctioned event)
    on how to set up our judging trays, exact timing for submissions,
    etc.  From that point until early afternoon, everything seemed a 
    blur as we raced to finish our meats on time, cut and arrange food
    for judging trays, repeat the operation for the next meat, and so on.
    By 2:00 PM everything had been submitted---brisket, chicken, ribs
    and pork shoulder, and we collapsed in our cook area, exhausted and
    anxious for the results of the judging.  Lots of the public 
    wandered through our cook area, curious about cooking 'que, and we
    were kept busy chatting with them and packing up our stuff.
    Around 4:30, the results of the judging were announced.  We
    were pleased to hear that we had taken 4th Place with our brisket,
    and my wifes' "Calcutta Rainbow Salsa" took a "Very Good".
    Even more interesting was that First Place for chicken in our
    category went to the fellow with the Weber, stool & book, who 
    apparently went home after submitting his entry---we didn't see him
    after that.  Grand Winner in the professional category, with lots
    of First, Second and Third Place prizes, went to the team that built
    their rig from the 75 gallon oil tank in the middle of the night!  
    Go figure!  Boy, did we learn a lot.  Let's see, for next year we need....

    The Smoke Rats: 
 
    Mac McCuller
    Marti McCuller
    Michelle McCuller
    Patrick McCuller
    Carl Cave
3683.2another experienceENABLE::glantzMike @TAY 227-4299 TP Eng LittletonThu Nov 05 1992 10:2731
Thanks, Mac. Wish we could've tasted your stuff, but here's what
happened when we went to the Pig 'n' Pepper cook-off:

First, we waited in a traffic jam for about an hour and a half, which
began about a mile outside of Carlisle center, and continued to the
parking lot. When we got there, we were parked in a corn field (for the
reasonable fee of $2 per car), where the foot-high remains of the corn
stalks managed to damage the exhaust system (and possibly the brake
lines) on my car. We then walked through a muddy ditch to the cook-off
area, where we saw people by the thousands waiting in 1/2-hour lines to
pay surprisingly high prices for what must surely have been excellent
food. However, the "system", such as it was, required you to purchase
tickets which were then used to purchase the food. After a half hour of
walking around, asking, walking, asking, walking, asking, and more
walking, we were never able to find out where to buy these tickets. At
this point, my wife and kids were furious and unpleasant, and I decided
it was time to leave. We then found that it was almost impossible to
leave the parking area, as there was no exit, only an entrance. They
had to hold up incoming traffic for us (and others who had had enough)
to leave, being extremely unpleasant about it the entire time. I
wondered out loud how a medical emergency would've been handled.

We got home and barbequed chicken on the grill ourselves.

On a positive note, the bluegrass music was quite good.

Until there's some evidence that the town of Carlisle can manage to
plan this event a little better (like by matching the amount of
facilities to the amount of advertising, for instance), I'll recommend
to everyone I know to stay away. Which is really too bad, since it
looked like a great time for those who got there early enough.
3683.3FestivalsJULIET::CANTONI_MIERROR: User Intelligence UnderflowThu Nov 05 1992 11:5711
    Mike,
    
    That sounds alot like the Gilroy Garlic Festival, except the parking
    situation is a little more organized (they do have a separate exit). 
    The traffic jams are an annual mess.   Then you get to pay an $8
    entrance fee so you can go into the festival and pay high prices to
    taste the garlicky offerings.  The food wasn't even that good!
    
    I was quite disappointed after all the good press the festival gets.
    
    Michelle
3683.4Garlic Festival -ahh yesKOLFAX::WHITMANAcid Rain Burns my BassThu Nov 05 1992 19:1216
re .-1
    
<    That sounds alot like the Gilroy Garlic Festival, except the parking
<    situation is a little more organized (they do have a separate exit). 
<    The traffic jams are an annual mess.   Then you get to pay an $8
<    entrance fee so you can go into the festival and pay high prices to
<    taste the garlicky offerings.  The food wasn't even that good!
<    
<    I was quite disappointed after all the good press the festival gets.
    
Michelle,

    I bet you didn't like the garlic ice cream either:-):-)

Al

3683.5Still Getting the Bugs OutKALE::ROBERTSFri Nov 06 1992 10:3021
    I had a much better time than you did, Mike, at the Pig and Pepper, but
    this was because I went last year, and knew from that to get there
    early.  I agree that the idea of buying tickets to buy food with
    doesn't make sense at all.  I don't remember their doing this last
    year.  I expect that it will be better next year -- last year there was
    almost nobody there, so it looks like they decided to do more
    advertising.  I think the crowd they got was beyond *anything* they
    expected.  I too, left early, and it was very difficult to get out of
    the corn field parking lot.  I'm not sure what better arrangements
    could be made for parking, though.  After all this is a rural area, so
    the only cleared areas large enough to hold a lot of cars are most
    likely going to be fields.  We drove our Trooper, so the corn stubble 
    wasn't a problem.  
    
    The food -- apparently unlike the offerings in Gilroy -- was excellent. 
    We had pulled pork sandwiches from the Redbone's concession, and it was
    even better than the meal I had at their restaurant.  I hope they do
    manage to organize this better next year, so it doesn't just die.  I 
    like the idea of a barbecue festival just 2 miles from my house!
    
    -ellie
3683.6TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Nov 24 1993 10:0917
    RE: .5  by KALE::ROBERTS 
    
    >I hope they do manage to organize this better next year, so it doesn't
    >just die.  I  like the idea of a barbecue festival just 2 miles from my
    >house!
    
    You live 2 miles away and you're complaining about the parking?  :-0
    
    How was it this year?  Did anybody go?  
    
    I went to the first one, but did not get there this year or last.  I
    was disappointed at the first one that there were only one or two
    vendors and it was very difficult to actually get anything to eat.
    
    How do you get to be a judge for this?  That sounds like the way to get
    some food.  ;-)
    
3683.7Pig and Pepper harvest in Westford MALEDS::DTSULLIVANWed Nov 24 1993 13:209
    
    It was not held in Carlisle this year but in Westford instead.  Right
    across from Kimbals. Plenty of parking and easy access via Rt 110.
    
    It was a might chilly that day so that you had to eat fast to avoid your 
    food getting cold. Other than that it was a good deal all around.
    
    dan
    
3683.83D::ROTHGeometry is the real life!Wed Nov 24 1993 16:4829
>    You live 2 miles away and you're complaining about the parking?  :-0

   While I did not enter the note this replys to, I bicycled over
   and just went by the lines of cars :-)  But they had parking
   at Nashoba ski area and shuttle busses.
    
>    How was it this year?  Did anybody go?  

   It was cold as a witches tit.  I never went to one before
   so don't have anything to compare to, but the food I sampled
   was generally pretty good.  I had some ribs at Redbones, some
   pulled pork at another place.

   It was pretty impressive to see them open up some of those
   giant roasting spits at the end of the day and see a huge
   pig carcass, picked clean.
    
>    How do you get to be a judge for this?  That sounds like the way to get
>    some food.  ;-)
    
   Actually I got there in the afternoon after the judging was done,
   but the contestants were giving out free samples if you arrived
   earlier.  That's what one of them told me when I was chatting with them.

   It was across from Kimbals and I had a frozen yogurt on my way home.

   Not the worst way to spend an afternoon.

   - Jim