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Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Tue Feb 18 1986
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3185.0. "FREEZING: Ground Beef?" by FDCV09::CUSNER () Thu Aug 15 1991 16:19

Recently we went camping and brought some hamburger meat.  Upon returning home
we had about 4 lbs of the defrosted ground beef.

We put it back into the freezer, but know we do not know if it can be used?

Can hamburg be refrozen if it is uncooked?  If so, does it change the
consistency or can you use it for any recipe without noticing any difference?

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3185.1WAHOO::LEVESQUEA question of balance...Thu Aug 15 1991 16:491
 Sounds dangerous to me.
3185.2NOATAK::BLAZEKhandprints and knees in the dewThu Aug 15 1991 17:085
    
    I've done it many times and (obviously) lived to tell about it.
    
    Carla
    
3185.3it can be riskyTYGON::WILDEwhy am I not yet a dragon?Thu Aug 15 1991 17:4413
if the meat was still very cold, but defrosted, and you immediately refroze
it, you probably don't have a problem.  However, if the meat was warm to the
touch, even a little warm, it can harbour some very nast bacteria.  Freezing
slows the growth of bacteria and, therefore, reduces the amount of "waste" the
bacteria produces - this waste is the problem...it can be toxic enough to kill,
and certainly toxic enough to make you sick.  When the meat gets warm, the
bacteria goes on a breeding frenzy and a great deal of waste can be produced
in a reasonably short period of time.  At that point, refreezing isn't going
to help you.  Only you know for sure how warm the meat was and how long it
was defrosted.  If it was defrosted several hours, and not under refrigeration,
I would not recommend you eat it -- and particularly, I would strongly urge
you to NOT feed it to children under the age of 4 or to the elderly...both
groups are very susceptabile to food poisoning and recover more slowly.
3185.4CALS::HEALEYDTN 297-2426 (was Karen Luby)Fri Aug 16 1991 10:4814
	I have refrozen CHICKEN before with no problem.  I know that
	some people would never consider doing this but sometimes I buy
	chicken at the grocery store and it is partially frozen at
	the time.  If I don't plan on using it immediately, I have to
	freeze it again.

	BTW, I have been buying White Gem Chicken at Stop and Shop and	
        often it is partially frozen.  I expect that it is always frozen
        and then thawed before being put out.  This seems wrong to me 
	since they do not package the chicken with a label that says 
	"previously frozen".  Should I complain?  

	Karen
3185.5"Super Chilled"ASDG::HARRISBrian HarrisFri Aug 16 1991 13:1911
    
    
    Having worked in the meat business, I was often forced to recite to
    cutomers the phrase "It isn't really frozen, it's just super chilled".
    
    Although it sounds like double-talk to me, the chicken packers tell us
    that they cool the chicken as much as possible without really freezing
    the meat.  I guess I'd call it 'partially frozen' as the meat is stiff,
    though usually still plyable.  Anyway, the chicken cannot legally be
    completely frozen and then thawed and still labeled 'Fresh'.  
    
3185.6Cook it.MR4DEC::MAHONEYWed Aug 21 1991 10:218
    I would COOK the ground meat in a nice rich spagetti sauce and then
    freeze.  That's what I do with thawed out meat (any kind) that way I
    don't have to worry.
    
    You can make meatballs, spagetti sauce, chilli, stuffed meatloaf...
    there are countless ways to cook ground meat and freeze it.
    Ana