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Title:How to Make them Goodies
Notice:Please Don't Start New Notes for Old Topics! Check 5.*
Moderator:FUTURE::DDESMAISONSec.com::winalski
Created:Tue Feb 18 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4127
Total number of notes:31160

1033.0. "BREAD: Buttermilk Biscuits" by 16821::RESENDEP (following the yellow brick road...) Mon Mar 07 1988 15:50

    This is one of those that's going directly from my head to the
    keyboard...
    
    2 cups sifted self-rising flour
    1 tablespoon powdered sugar
    1 tablespoon baking powder
    1/3 cup Crisco
    about 1 cup buttermilk
    
    Mix flour, powdered sugar, and baking powder.  Cut in shortening.
    Add buttermilk and mix with a fork only till blended.  DO NOT OVERMIX.
    Roll out on a floured board.  Cut out and dip in melted butter.
    Bake at 450 degrees till golden brown.
    
    Makes 10 big 'uns.
    
    							Pat
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1033.1BISCUIT RECIPE HELPSAHQ::HERNDONKristen, DTN 385-2154Thu Oct 04 1990 15:4944
    
    I realize this is an old note...but this is my topic, and you know,
    why start another?
    
    Background:  My in-laws gave me a biscuit recipe my husband loves.
    However, the recipe is written strange to me.  It is inside squares,
    so I'm not sure if I'm suppose to combine ingredients together.  
    
    My inlaws got it from someone else and I think it has lost its
    original directions.  When they make them they use HOT tap water,
    store their yeast in the fridge and will store the 'dough' for
    2 weeks in the fridge, making biscuits whenever they want them.
    
    I did this and they were so sour, you can use the biscuits for
    doorstoppers, and the oil separates from the dough.  After a while
    the refrigerator wreaks of yeast...yuck!
    
    I was wondering if anyone could identify the recipe and would know
    how it was supposed to be put together.  I've tried proofing the
    yeast, not-proofing, letting the dough rise, and just mix and cook.
    They just aren't 'good' biscuits. 
    
    My inlaws are from Rome Georgia (we live in Atlanta, but native
    New Englander).  This recipe is one thing I want to conquer.
    My inlaws knew nothing about yeast and how temperature sensitive
    it is.  So I don't know if the treatment of the yeast is the key.
    
    Finally, here it is....thanks for any help!   Kristen
    
    +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | 5 C Self-Rising   |            |1 tsp.     |2 C.        |           |  
    |    Flour          |1 Pkg yeast |Baking Soda|Buttermilk  |1 C. Oil   |
    |___________________|____________|___________|____________|___________|
    |                   |            |
    |1/4 C. Warm Water  |2 tsp. Sugar|
    |                   |            |
    +___________________+____________+
    
    Dissolve yeast in water.  Mix sugar, soda, and buttermilk well.
    Add flour and oil evenly add yeast.
    
    Preheat oven 400 - 425, bake for 20 - 25 minutes.
    
    
1033.2well, maybeTYGON::WILDEillegal possession of a GNUThu Oct 04 1990 19:4630
>    +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
>    | 5 C Self-Rising   |            |1 tsp.     |2 C.        |           |  
>    |    Flour          |1 Pkg yeast |Baking Soda|Buttermilk  |1 C. Oil   |
>    |___________________|____________|___________|____________|___________|
>    |                   |            |
>    |1/4 C. Warm Water  |2 tsp. Sugar|
>    |                   |            |
>    +___________________+____________+
    
>    Dissolve yeast in water.  Mix sugar, soda, and buttermilk well.
>    Add flour and oil evenly add yeast.
    
Well, for starters, I wonder why anyone would use self-rising flour
which is leavened already with a yeast recipe...sounds really overboard to
me.  However, assuming this is the correct flour, I can only suggest that
you mix the 1/4 cup warm water, yeast, and sugar together until yeast is
disolved.  I would also mix the buttermilk and oil together.  Add the
baking soda to the flour, sifting once or mixing well with a wire wisk.

Add the buttermilk/oil all at once and mix a little. Add yeast/sugar/water
mixture all at once and stir to mix.  I am
guessing here, but I suspect you can OVERMIX this stuff, so stir just until
all is moistened...or do you have to knead this stuff to get it mixed?  at
any rate, it will "sour" up on you if you store it in the fridge for any
length of time, but if used immediately, it might be okay.

		Good luck.

PS. have you tried this with regular flour?

1033.3Angel biscuits?CSCOA5::ANDERSON_MSuccess in circuit liesFri Oct 05 1990 09:3712
    
    This looks like a recipe for "Angel" biscuits, the kind that every good
    Southern grandmother is supposed to have the only authentic recipe
    for...  The methods that I've read DO NOT mention storing the sponge in the
    refrigerator.  (It would surely sour, as you've already discovered.)
    
    Anyway, the only time I've ever seen double-leavening is with Angel
    biscuits--and they are truly wonderful.  I'd buy a bag of White Lily
    Self-Rising Flour with yet another "authentic" recipe on the back, and
    tell my in-laws I finally mastered their recipe....
    
    Mike. 
1033.4SAHQ::HERNDONKristen, DTN 385-2154Fri Oct 05 1990 10:3826
    re: .2
    
    Yeah, I've tried regular flour.  The dough is kind of soupy and you
    can't do a thing with it.
    
    As far as the Yeast and dissolving with sugar and warm water, I 
    did that (proofing) and the biscuits rose real nice; however, after
    I cooked them, I could use them to hold the bedroom door open.  They
    also 'shrunk' considerably.  Want to hear something kooky...my inlaws
    store them 'on purpose' in the fridge for 2 weeks to get that 'sour'
    taste...yuck!  
    
    re: .3
    
    Sounds like a plan to me.  I'll have to see if I can find the flour
    your talking about and compare the recipe.
    
    thanks for the ideas, if anyone else has any suggestion, by all
    means...
    
    Kristen
    
    PS: Do you think the recipe 'has' to have oil?  Or would butter/marg.
    work too?  My thought is that the butter/marg. would add flavor.
    
    
1033.6How Southern grandmothers do it :^)SCAACT::RESENDEJust an obsolete childMon Oct 08 1990 00:0412
Someone mentioned that they couldn't imagine using self-rising flour and 
then adding yeast to it.  Well, I haven't heard of exactly that either, but 
literally *every* true born-'n-bred Southern cook I've ever known uses 
self-rising flour for biscuits, but also adds a generous amount of baking 
powder and baking soda to it.  My Mom always said that using self-rising 
flour is the secret to making really good buttermilk biscuits.  The other 
trick that seems to be almost universally used in the South is to cook the 
biscuits in an extremely hot oven:  450 - 500 degrees.  Nearly every recipe 
I've ever seen specifies a much lower temperature than that.

FWIW,
Steve