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Conference turris::cooks

Title:	How to Make them Goodies
Notice:	Please Don't Start New Notes for Old Topics! Check 5.*
Moderator:	FUTURE::DDESMAISONSec.com::winalski

Created:	Tue Feb 18 1986
Last Modified:	Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4127
Total number of notes:	31160

699.0. "Raw Milk" by LANDO::MOTT (Peter Mott, LANDO::MOTT, LTN01-1/D03) Mon Sep 07 1987 18:57

Lately I  have  learned  that the processes of pasteurizing and          
homogenizing  milk  detract  from the nutritional value and may even 
cause  additional  health problems (see The Complete Book of Natural 
Foods  by  Fred  Rohe,  a  real fanatic.) Most dairies don't have to be  
-and aren't- clean enough to produce raw milk which is safe to drink.
They know that the stuff is going to be "disinfected" and so don't make
a big effort to keep the manure and other (udder?) assorted goodies out
of the works. A "certified" dairy is a place where they keep it so clean
you could literally eat off of the floor. The milk goes straight from
the cow to the fridge and is kept cold until you buy it. The benefits of
not pasteurizing the milk mainly have to do with the structure of the
proteins: heat destroys much of their nutritional value and makes them
much more difficult to digest. Also the heat destoys a lot of the
vitamins. The effect of homogenization is to break up the fat globules
into pieces small enough to pass directly into your bloodstream rather
than being digested in the usual way. Personally I'd rather just shake
my milk before pouring it. 
     
The whole problem with knowing this is that I'm afraid all the certified 
dairies in the country are out on the west coast with all those aging 
hippies. (I bet they're aging very gracefully, though!) Has anyone heard 
of a place in central Massachusetts (or anywhere else) where you can buy 
certified raw milk?

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
699.1	I admire your reasons but...	NEXUS::GORTMAKER	the Gort	`Thu Sep 10 1987 00:34`	21
	I drank raw milk alot in my younger years as i spent the summers on my grandparents farm. From personal experience I can say that raw milk stinks/tastes bad/has other bad side effects. One of the reasons for pasturising is to clean up the smell which is very strong when warm and slightly better when cold. As i understand it there are bacteria(sp?) in the milk that can cause stomach/intestinal problems. Also the teets are usally cleaned before milking which should eliminate the worry of manure in the final product. Good luck and I hope you can stomach it I couldent after only a few years break. I dont mean to bring you down but instead wanted to forewarn you of what you were getting into. I guess the bottom line is that if you expect it to taste anything like the milk you are used to you have a BIG surprize coming to you 'cuz it dont. Note that the raw milk I drank was still cooked to kill any germs that might have been present. Now goats milk is another thing all together and I do like it very much. One benifit is it is much lower in fat than cows milk. Good luck,jerry
699.2	I vote for raw milk	TROLL::GRANQUIST		`Thu Sep 10 1987 11:00`	18
	When I worked at the Augusta Me. facility, there was a few farms that sold milk raw. They were inspected by the government periodically and certified. I guess everyone has different tastes, but I raised six children, and bought two gallons every other day. also drank it myself, and enjoyed it. I know it was not pasturized (cooked). No one who came to my house ever noticed anything different, or at least mentioned it. I'm sure that to some people it might taste to raw, but give it a try. You can always go back to store bought. As to where to buy raw milk, I would suggest that you call a few farms. I know that shaws farm in dracut, ma. sells milk, ice cream, etc..., but don't know about raw milk. I'm alone now, so I just don't use milk very much. good luck Nils
699.3	They're not all on the west coast.	SQM::AITEL	NO ZUKES!!!!	`Thu Sep 10 1987 16:17`	16
	Won't help .0 much, but my brother has a farm that sells milk and he's up in So. China Maine (near Augusta). Look for Two Loons Farm on Rte 32 - run by Spencer and Paige Aitel. Send mail if you need the phone to get directions. He also makes and sells other milk products (yogurt, butter, cream, cheeses) and eggs, some of which are in the regular groceries (but I don't know which stores). His place is inspected by The Authorities and must be certified to some level - but I don't know anything about it other than his kitchen is cleaner than mine. I AM associated with this loon, but do NOT expect any profit from letting you all know about him. --Louise, Spencer's kid sister
699.4		PSW::WINALSKI	Paul S. Winalski	`Sat Sep 12 1987 20:03`	9
	RE: .0 Whatever you do, make sure that you get a clean, reliable dairy. I would ask for a tour of the place. It is very easy for raw milk to become contaminated with tuberculosis or brucellosis bacteria if it is not handled under sanitary conditions. I personally prefer to play it safe and buy only the pasteurized stuff. --PSW
699.5	This might help!	PHILEM::WOODS		`Mon Sep 14 1987 16:18`	14
	Peter, I you ever get to Pepperell Ma. There is a farm on Rt 122 (Hollis St.) That sell's raw milk. You have to bring your own containers to fill. They have a big stainless steel vat and a pitcher (I beleive it is in a disinfectant the pitch I mean) and you fill you containers. I think the cost was 1.25 a gal. but I'm not positive. My husband's boss's wife goes there all the time and drank it during both of her pregnancies no harm done. They drink it all the time. Hope this has helped.