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Conference turris::bridge

Title:The Game of Bridge
Moderator:COLLIS::JACKSON
Created:Thu Oct 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1969
Total number of notes:14668

1926.0. "Whither now?" by CSLALL::16.29.16.112::JKeenan (Jay Keenan (603) 883-7913) Mon Feb 10 1997 10:35

As Dealer (South), all white, Imps you hold:

	Qxx Axx Qx AJxxx

The auction proceeds
S   W   N   E
1C  2D  Dbl 3D
P   P   Dbl P
?

Do you agree so far? What now?
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1926.1Bidding agreementsCSLALL::16.29.16.112::JKeenanJay Keenan (603) 883-7913Mon Feb 10 1997 10:584
Both Doubles by North are for takeout, by agreement.

East-West have the agreement that the 2D bid is probably a 5 card 
suit thus East has 4 diamonds.
1926.2showing nagative expectationsGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Feb 10 1997 11:026
  3H, expecting to go down.  I don't pass.  I expect to go down in 4C also.

  I have a lot of respect for 3NT, on gambling grounds, but I don't bid it.

  bb
1926.3PassDAVIDB::DMILLERThis bug fix broke what???????Mon Feb 10 1997 12:2729
	I'd have certainly bid a 4-card major over 3D if I had one.  So the
	2nd double must be more of a "Do something intelligent" double.  So
	I expect my choices are between Pass, 3N, 4C and 4D (Pick a game).

	If partner was 5-4 in majors, he could have bid 3M over 3D.  We've
	both had the opportunity to bid NT, although I would have needed
	extras to bid it over 3D directly.  Now I can't bid it cause I don't
	have the stopper.

	4C seems wimpy, and 4D may be right, although I don't relish 4-3
	fits at game-level.  At least partner would be playing it, and not
	me.

	If the opps have nine diamonds, then partner is either 4423, 4324,
	or 3424.  We have at best a nine-card fit in clubs, possibly only
	eight.  The LAW says both sides could make 3 of a minor if there
	are 18 trumps/tricks.  If partner can be trusted to have 4423 shape,
	then there are only 17 tricks, and one of us can't make nine tricks.

	In fact, 4C may be down one while 3D is also down one.  Since it's
	IMPs, +100 vs +110 isn't all that much, but +300 vs +130 is a little
	better.  The problem is we've just doubled them into game, so it could
	be -110 vs -470.  Actually, 4CX-2 when they can make 3DX is -300 vs -470.

	So we're risking a 10-IMP swing by letting the double ride.  +5 vs -5.

	I hope we get the defense right.

	-Dave
1926.4Pretty ugly if you reconstruct, and this isn't the worst it could be, either...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Feb 10 1997 14:0617
  Of course, I don't know the full deal.  But this hand has REALLY
 deteriorated, as in :

         AJxx Qxxx Ax Q10x
 x xx KJxxxx Kxxx    Kxxxx KJxx xxx x
         Qxx Axx Qx AJxxx

  In spite of partner's 13 points, you can't really beat 3D, and 3H/4C/3NT
 would all be down 1.  That D-Qx is real filth now, but you didn't know
 that when you opened.  The good news is, your opposite numbers have the
 same troubles at the other table.  Try to avoid disaster if you can.

  And even if you pull to 3H or 4C, partner may not give up and walk into
 a double.

  bb
1926.5At least you're not in 3HCSLALL::mko-ras-port-3.mko.dec.com::JKeenanJay Keenan (603) 883-7913Tue Feb 11 1997 10:4818
Over your 3H call partner pulls to 4C which, I assume, you pass.

The opening lead is the DJ and partner hits with

AKTx
Qxx
xx
KTxx

Rho wins the DA, returns a diamond to the king and LHO leads the HJ.
Plan the play.

Your hand again,

Qxx
Axx
Qx
AJxxx
1926.6OK, so I cheated. It still looks rightDAVIDB::DMILLERThis bug fix broke what???????Tue Feb 11 1997 12:047
	Looks like the pre-emptor is xxx-Jx-KJTxx-xx and RHO is xxx-Kxxxx-Axxx-xx

	Clubs split 2-2 and spades 3-3, so we lose 2D and 1H, making 4.  I'm
	not sure where CQ and SJ are, but on this layout it doesn't matter.

	HJ-HQ-HK-HA, CK, CA (2-2?), SQ, SA, SK (3-3?), ST pitching heart,
	concede a heart at end.
1926.7Can't seem yo read anything on the bidding.GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaTue Feb 11 1997 13:3020
  If LHO is really 3262 (and only then), you could have had 300, and you can
 draw trumps and claim 130 if you guess it.  I don't believe it.

  If LHO were 2362 or 3361, you had him down 100, but now you have to guess
 the CQ and then guess in the ending whether to throw RHO in with HK or play
 for the drop.  LHO could also be 2272 or 2452.

  If LHO were 2461 or 2263 or 1462 or 4261, or 1453 he was making 3D
 doubled, and you still have to guess CQ and SJ.

  What about RHO ?  With DA, he could have anything.

  I have no idea.  I duck H in dummy of course, win HA, CK, club, cogitate,
 and probably finesse.  If I guess right, I run my trumps to come down to
 spades and HQ in dummy, SA, SQ, huddle again.  Going for the endplay
 would make LHO 2362, while the drop is 3262.  Both opponents will have
 to falsecard me well in the end.

  bb
1926.8Let's play for no worse than down 1.SUBSYS::SENGUPTAShekhar Sengupta DTN 237-6785Wed Feb 19 1997 11:1423
    > AKTx
    > Qxx
    > xx
    > KTxx
    
    > Rho wins the DA, returns a diamond to the king and LHO leads the HJ.
    > Plan the play.
    
    > Your hand again,
    
    > Qxx
    > Axx
    > Qx
    > AJxxx
    
    Ducking HJ in dummy, winning the HA in hand, then playing CA followed
    by a finesse of CT can set me no more than one (provided LHO follows
    low to 2nd club). If RHO wins the second trick with CQ, he has to give
    me a free finesse or a ruff and discard. Of course if LHO shows out on
    2nd round of C, I'll win with CK and exit a club with the same effect.
    
    If I don't lose a Club, I hope I make the right decision about Spades
    later.