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584.1 | The best soccer player of the year | PCMV01::ANDRADE | | Mon Jan 13 1997 17:29 | 23 |
584.2 | | VNA03::HERIBERT | | Tue Jan 21 1997 11:59 | 12 |
584.3 | 6 games pause - 1 month later Fair Play Price - both in Portugal, both by FIFA | VNA03::HERIBERT | | Wed Jan 22 1997 09:58 | 5 |
584.4 | And now the results of the Norwegain jury... | CHEFS::SWANM | | Fri Jan 24 1997 10:31 | 154 |
| If anyone's interested, the full listing of how all the national
coaches voted in the player of the year award.
Note esp Germany & Spain...
PLAYER OF THE YEAR INDIVIDUAL COACHES' POLL
COUNTRY COACH/MANAGER FIRST SECOND THIRD
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1) Albania Astrit HAFIZI Ronaldo Sammer Berger
2) Algeria Zouba HAMID Ronaldo Sammer Weah
3) Andorra Isidre CODINA Ronaldo Weah Shearer
4) Angola Manuri GOMES Ronaldo Shearer Joao V.Pinto
5) Anguilla Clifton LIVINGSTON Weah Romario Baggio
6) Argentina Daniel PASSARELLA Batistuta Ortega Ronaldo
7) Australia Eddie THOMSON Maldini Weah Ronaldo
8) Austria Herbert PROHASKA Weah Suker Batistuta
9) Azerbaijan Kazbeh TUAYEV Weah Shearer Turkiylmaz
10) Bahamas Lionel HAVEN Shearer Ronaldo Batistuta
11) Bahrain Khalid AL KHALIFA Shearer Ronaldo Cantona
12) Barbados Edward SMITH Ronaldo Shearer Weah
13) Bielorussia Mikhail VERGEENKO Ronaldo Sammer Klinsmann
14) Belgium Wilfred VAN MOER Weah Ronaldo Boksic
15) Belize Winstan W. MICHAEL Weah R. Carlos Ronaldo
16) Bolivia Antonio LOPEZ HABAS Ronaldo Shearer Kiko
17) Bosnia-Hrzeg. Fuad MUZUROVIC Ronaldo Maldini Suker
18) Botswana Freddie MWILA Weah K.Bwalya Klinsmann
19) Brazil Mario ZAGALLO Ronaldo Giovanni Weah
20) Bulgaria Hristo BONEV Ronaldo Balakov Sammer
21) Burkina Faso Ivan VOUTOV Sammer Shearer Lama
22) Cambodia Keo GARETH Romario R.Baggio VanBasten
23) Canada Bob LENARDUZZI Sammer Weah Kanu
24) Cape Verde Jose F. ANTUNES Ronaldo Weah Klinsmann
25) Chile Nelson ACOSTA Zamorano Kanu Ronaldo
26) China Qi WUSHENG Weah Bierhoff -
27) China Taipei Qhiang MU-TSAI Weah Ronaldo Cantona
28) Colombia Hernan Dario GOMEZ Shearer Ronaldo Asprilla
29) Costa Rica Vieira VALDEIR Gomez Montero Ramirez
30) Cote d'Ivoire Robert NOUZARET Klinsmann Weah Karembeu
31) Croatia Miroslav BLAZEVIC Boban Suker Boksic
32) Cuba William BARRACES R.Carlos Kanu Bebeto
33) Cyprus Andreas MICHAELIDES Sammer Seaman Ronaldo
34) Czech Rep. Dusan UHRIN Sammer Poborsky Weah
35) Denmark Bo JOHANSSON Ronaldo Sammer Djorkaeff
36) Ecuador Francisco MATURANA Shearer Ronaldo Helmer
37) Egypt Farouk GAAFAR Romario Zola Klinsmann
38) England Glenn HODDLE Weah Shearer Ronaldo
39) Estonia Teitur THORDARSON Ronaldo Suker Giovanni
40) Ethiopia Geiahun GIORGIES Klinsmann Ronaldo Kanu
41) Faroe Isls. Allan SIMONSEN Ronaldo Shearer Weah
42) Fiji Billy SINGH Cantona Ronaldo Shearer
43) Finland Richard M. NIELSEN Shearer Ronaldo Desailly
44) France Aime JACQUET Ronaldo Suker Blanc
45) Gambia Peter Bonu JOHNSON Kanu Weah Davids
46) Georgia Alexander CHIVADZE Ronaldo Shearer Koepke
47) Germany Berti VOGTS Klinsmann Sammer Moeller
48) Ghana Samuel ARDAY Ronaldo Weah Beckham
49) Greece Kostas POLICHRONIOU Shearer Boban Sammer
50) Guam Kun HO RHEE Bo Hong Miura Litmanen
51) Guatemala Horacio Raul CORDERO Batistuta Guardiola Ortega
52) Honduras Ramon E. MARADIAGA Ronaldo Weah Chilavert
53) Hong Kong Ka-Ming KWUK Ronaldo Sammer Kanu
54) Hungary Janos CSANK Shearer Ronaldo Suker
55) Iceland Logi OLAFSSON Sammer Shearer Deschamps
56) Iran Mohammed M. KOHAN Sammer Shearer Ronaldo
57) Israel Sharf SHLOMO Ronaldo Sammer Shearer
58) Italy Arrigo SACCHI Ronaldo Shearer Eilts
59) Jamaica Rene SIMOES Ronaldo Weah Gascoigne
60) Japan Shu KAMO Kanu Klinsmann Ortega
61) Kazakhstan Seric BERDALIN Klinsmann Weah Suker
62) South Korea Jong Hwan PARK Ronaldo Shearer Suker
63) Kuwait Milan MACALA Ronaldo Shearer Sammer
64) Kyrgystan Evgenij NOVIKOV Klinsmann Shearer Ravanelli
65) Laos Somphou PONGSA Savatdy L.Amath Xeunvilay
66) Latvia Janis GILLIS Weah Sammer Ronaldo
67) Lebanon Terry YORATH Weah Ronaldo Sammer
68) Libya Mohammed EL KHOMEL Weah Ronaldo Maldini
69) Liechtenstein Dietrich WEISE Ronaldo Deschamps Ziege
70) Lithuania Benjamin ZELKEVICIUS Ronaldo Shearer Sammer
71) Luxembourg Paul PHILIPP Ronaldo Maldini Djorkaeff
72) Macedonia Doko HADZIEVSKI Stoichkov Savicevic Suker
73) Malaysia Halem SOUISSI Sammer Poborsky Lama
74) Maldives Romulo CORTEZ Klinsmann Ronaldo Weah
75) Malta Milorad KOSANOVIC Sammer Bejbl Eilts
76) Mauritius Jogeschwar CHUNGDUNSING Ronaldo Turkiylmaz Fowler
77) Mexico Bora MILUTINOVIC Batistuta Mijatovic Sammer
78) Moldova Ion CARAS Ronaldo Shearer Weah
79) Morocco Henry MICHEL Ronaldo Weah Maldini
80) Netherlands Guus HIDDINK Ronaldo Del Piero Cantona
81) New Zealand Keith PRITCHETT Suker Klinsmann Batistuta
82) Nicaragua Mauricio CRUZ Ronaldo M.Santos R.Carlos
83) N. Ireland Bryan HAMILTON Weah Shearer R.deBoer
84) Norway Egil OLSEN Ronaldo Litmanen McManaman
85) Oman Mahmoud AL JOHARY Ronaldo Shearer Schmeichel
86) Paraguay Pablo C. CARPEGGIANI Ronaldo Weah Chilavert
87) Peru Juan Carlos OBLITAS Ronaldo Giovanni Kanu
88) Philippines Juan E. CUTILLAS Ronaldo Kanu Maldini
89) Poland Andoni PIECHNICZEK Sammer Shearer Koepke
90) Portugal Artur JORGE Ronaldo Shearer Sammer
91) Puerto Rico Cristobal A. VACCARO Ronaldo Kanu Maldini
92) Qatar Ove PEDERSEN Ronaldo Berger Sammer
93) Rep. Ireland Mich MCCARTHY Shearer Sammer Eilts
94) Romania Anghel IORDANESCU Ronaldo Sammer Popescu
95) Russia Boris IGNATIEV Weah Ronaldo Sammer
96) San Marino Massimo BONINI Ronaldo Del Piero Ravanelli
97) Saudi Arabia Rahman AL KARASHI Ronaldo Weah Klinsmann
98) Scotland Craig BROWN Sammer Shearer Weah
99) Seychelles Ulric MATHIOT Sammer Kanu Klinsmann
100) Singapore Barry WHITBREAD Weah Sammer Batistuta
101) Slovakia Jozef JANKECH Shearer Maldini Ronaldo
102) Slovenia Zdenko VERDENIK Ronaldo Savicevic Sammer
103) So.Africa Clive BARKER Ronaldo Maldini Okocha
104) Spain Javier CLEMENTE Hierro Zubizarreta Nadal
105) Sri Lanka P. D. SIRISENA Ronaldo Maldini Amokachi
106) Sudan Ahmed EL FAKI Ronaldo Weah Shearer
107) Sweden Tommy SVENSSON Ronaldo Sammer Shearer
108) Switzerland Rolf FRINGER Ronaldo Sammer Blanc
109) Tadjikistan Zoir BABAYEV Shearer Boban Sammer
110) Thailand Arjharn SONGNGAMSUB Shearer Juninho Sammer
111) Tunisia Henri KASPERCZAK Ronaldo Sammer Weah
112) Turkey Mustapha DENIZLI Djorkaeff Klinsmann Suker
113) Utd Arab Emir Tomislav IVIC Ronaldo Weah Suker
114) Ukraine Jozhef SABO Klinsmann Ronaldo Candela
115) Uruguay Hector NUNEZ Weah Ronaldo P.Montero
116) USA Steve SAMPSON Ronaldo Weah Klinsmann
117) Venezuela Lino ALONSO Ronaldo Weah Chilavert
118) Yemen Abdulrahman SALEM Ronaldo Klinsmann Maldini
119) Yugoslavia Slobodan SANTRAC Mijatovic Ronaldo Haessler
120) Zambia Roald POULSEN K.Bwalya Kanu Gascoigne
Here are the voted players:
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Ronaldo Bra Barcelona 329 pts
Weah Lib Milan 140
Shearer Eng Newcastle 123
Sammer Ger B.Dortmund 109
Klinsmann Ger B.Munchen 54
Kanu Ngr Internazionale 32
Maldini Ita Milan 25
Suker Cro Real Madrid 24
Batistuta Arg Fiorentina 19
Romario Bra Flamengo 13
Boban Cro Milan 11
R. Carlos Bra Real Madrid 9
Cantona Fra M. United 9
Bwalka Zam A. Mexico 8
Mijatovic Yug Real Madird 8
Giovanni Bra Barcelona 7
Del Piero Ita Juventus 6
Djorkaeff Fra Internazionale 6
Poborsky Cze M. United 6
Savicevic Yug Milan 6
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584.5 | How would they know? | CHEFS::WILLIAMSA | I wanna be Luke | Fri Jan 24 1997 12:00 | 5 |
| I never realised this was such a prestigeous (sp?) award, what with so
many footballing powers having a vote like! And didn't some of them use
that vote well!
Alen.
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584.6 | | VNA03::HERIBERT | | Mon Jan 27 1997 08:01 | 3 |
| German coach VOGTS was very "impartial":
47) Germany Berti VOGTS Klinsmann Sammer Moeller
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584.7 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Mon Jan 27 1997 08:27 | 5 |
|
I did notice this Heribert...did you expect any different ???
Dezzz.
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584.8 | re -1 | VNA03::HERIBERT | | Mon Jan 27 1997 10:03 | 22 |
| Dezzz,
Yes, I do not expect such a vote from any coach.
My personal player of the Year is Alan SHEARER and I AM NO ENGLISH.
Vote of English trainer:
1.Weah 2. Shearer 3. Ronaldo
... more than fair, Glen Hoddle
Italy:
Ronaldo Shearer Eilts
....the same for Sacchi
Germany:
1. German player, 2. German player, 3. German Player
....Berti VOGTS ????
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584.9 | More bias | SIGSR1::BEGLEY_M | | Mon Jan 27 1997 12:22 | 19 |
| Vogts is not the only one who's a tad partial, check out the votes of
Costa Rica, Croatia and Spain as further examples. Also there are
plenty of examples of players who were only voted for by either their
country of origin or their neighbours, Guatemala is a good example.
Looking at this whole business it's surprising to me that (ignoring the
minority of players who got just a few votes) the votes from such a
wide variety of countries were pretty consistent in usually picking
Ronaldo, Shearer and Weah in some order or another. I mean what does
someone from Iran know of the players who play in the Argentinian
league and vice versa? The whole thing is very obviously Euro centric
(most of the votes webt to players who play in a European league) but
how do we know that Ronaldo or Shearer or Weah are better than someone
who plays for a Brazilian team and that we never see except in
internationals?
Pretty meaningless if you ask me.
Martin
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584.10 | What do they get anyway - ANOTHER trophy ?? | CHEFS::16.43.128.47::Mad | Open Fire, Number One !!! | Mon Jan 27 1997 12:37 | 11 |
| re prev.
I agree, but it's a good chance for a few over-paid football exec's to shake
hands with the people that they never were. I saw the highlights and there was
the 3 maestros (Ron/Al/George) surrounded by fat blokes in suits (not-gazza)
all grinning inanely and shaking each other by the hand.It is farsical. Mind
you the SKY award reminded me of a very sad Brit Awards a year or two
back......
Mad
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584.11 | List the 3 footballer's names you've heard most. | EDSD05::WILCOCKSON | | Mon Jan 27 1997 14:18 | 8 |
| Worra load o'wank!
How can anybody be expected to know how good every footballer in the
WORLD plays?? How many games would you have to watch?
I agree entirely with the previous note, most managers simply voted
for the names they knew (says a lot about Berti Vogts eh?).
Al
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