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1st Division
Aug 12, 1994 Birmingham - Ipswich 3 - 1
Crystal_P - Barnsley 4 - 3
Millwall - Grimsby 2 - 1
Oldham - Huddersfield 3 - 0
Portsmouth - Southend 4 - 2
Stoke - Reading 1 - 1
Sunderland - Leicester 1 - 2
Tranmere - Wolverhampton 2 - 2
Watford - Sheffield_U 2 - 1
West_Bromwich - Charlton 1 - 0
Aug 13, 1995 Derby - Port_Vale 0 - 0
Luton - Norwich 1 - 3
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| 493.1 | Results 19/8 & 20/8 | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | J Hussey - Down in Dunure | Mon Aug 21 1995 10:36 | 175 |
The Electronic Telegraph Monday 21 August 1995 Football
Endsleigh Insurance League Division One
Sunday 20 August 1995
Wolverhampton (0) 1 West Brom (0) 1
Mardon 66 og; Taylor 46.
Wolverhampton: Stowell, Thompson, Masters, Emblen, Shirtliff, Richards, Daley,
Kelly (Froggatt 73), Bull, Cowans, Goodman. Subs Not Used: Rankine, Jones.
Booked: Goodman.
West Brom: Naylor, Burgess, Edwards, Coldicott, Mardon, Raven, Donovan,
Gilbert, Taylor, Hunt, Hamilton. Subs Not Used: Rees, Smith, Brien. Booked:
Burgess, Taylor.
Att: 26,329
Ref: C R Wilkes (Gloucester).
Saturday 19 August 1995
Barnsley (1) 2 Oldham (0) 1
Payton 37, Redfearn 67 pen; McCarthy 83.
Barnsley: Watson, Eaden, Fleming, Kane, Davis, Bishop, Rammell, Redfearn,
Payton, Liddell (Bullock 79), Archdeacon. Subs Not Used: Jackson, Butler.
Booked: Bishop.
Oldham: Gerrard, Makin, Pointon, Henry, Jobson, Fleming, Halle, Bernard,
McCarthy, Richardson, Brennan (Beckford 79). Subs Not Used: Redmond,
Hallworth. Sent Off: Fleming (67). Booked: Fleming.
Att: 8,795
Ref: T E West (Hull).
Charlton (0) 3 Birmingham (0) 1
Bowyer 69, Grant 88, Nelson 68; Bowen 55.
Charlton: Salmon, Humphrey, Sturgess (Grant 67), Jones, Rufus, Balmer, Robson,
Nelson (Walsh 79), Robinson, Whyte (Chapple 90), Bowyer. Booked: Rufus,
Balmer.
Birmingham: Bennett, Poole, Frain (Otto 46), Ward (Forsyth 46), Edwards, Daish,
Hunt, Claridge (Donowa 46), Bowen, Cooper, Tait. Booked: Ward, Edwards, Bowen.
Att: 9,692
Ref: E Lomas (Manchester).
Grimsby (0) 2 Portsmouth (0) 1
Croft 78, Laws 72; McLoughlin 81 pen.
Grimsby: Crichton, Laws, Jobling, Handyside, Rodger, Groves, Croft, Shakespeare,
Woods, Livingstone, Southall. Subs Not Used: Dobbin, Lever, Jewell. Sent Off:
Crichton (80). Booked: Laws, Livingstone.
Portsmouth: Poom, Pethick, Russell, McLoughlin (Dobson 85), Awford, Butters,
Simpson (Igoe 67), Durnin, Hall, Creaney (Burton 67), Rees. Sent Off: Durnin (79).
Booked: Hall.
Att: 4,515
Ref: K Breen (Liverpool).
Huddersfield (0) 1 Watford (0) 0
Jepson 67
Huddersfield: Francis, Trevitt, Cowan, Bullock, Scully, Sinnott, Dalton, Duxbury
(Dunn 61), Booth, Jepson, Collins. Subs Not Used: Whitney, Norman.
Watford: Miller, Lavin, Johnson, Millen, Holdsworth, Gibbs, Hessenthaler, Payne,
Beadle (Mooney 61), Porter, Phillips (Bazeley 77). Subs Not Used: Cherry. Booked:
Holdsworth.
Att: 10,556
Ref: J Lloyd (Wrexham).
Ipswich (1) 1 Crystal Palace (0) 0
Mathie 38
Ipswich: Forrest, Stockwell, Vaughan, Sedgley, Wark, Williams, Uhlenbeek,
Thomsen, Mathie, Marshall, Milton. Subs Not Used: Chapman, Tanner, Taricco.
Booked: Stockwell.
Crystal Palace: Martyn, Edworthy, Gordon, Hopkin (Cox 76), Coleman, Shaw,
Houghton, Pitcher, Dowie, Dyer, Ndah (Matthew 66). Subs Not Used: Wilmot.
Sent Off: Gordon (88).
Att: 12,681
Ref: G Singh (Wolverhampton).
Leicester (0) 2 Stoke (3) 3
Parker 75 pen, Walsh 72; Gleghorn 33, Peschisolido 11, 24.
Leicester: Poole, Grayson (Hill 67), Whitlow, Willis (Roberts 67), Walsh, Parker,
Joachim, Taylor, Robins, Corica, Lawrence (Lewis 53). Booked: Grayson, Willis.
Stoke: Muggleton, Clarkson, Sandford, Sigurdsson, Overson, Orlygsson, Keen,
Wallace, Peschisolido (Sturridge 86), Scott (Gayle 90), Gleghorn. Subs Not Used:
Potter. Booked: Keen, Peschisolido.
Att: 17,719
Ref: R Gifford (Llanbradach).
Norwich (0) 0 Sunderland (0) 0
Norwich: Gunn, Mills, Bowen, Milligan, Prior, Newsome, Adams, Akinbiyi, Sheron
(Newman 57), Johnson (Rush 57), Eadie. Subs Not Used: Polston. Booked: Prior,
Johnson.
Sunderland: Chamberlain, Kubicki, Martin Gray, Bracewell, Ball, Ord, Michael
Gray, Atkinson, Smith (Russell 45), P. Gray, Angell (Howey 50). Subs Not Used:
Melville. Booked: Ord.
Att: 16,739
Ref: I S Hemley (Amthill, Beds).
Port Vale (0) 0 Millwall (0) 1
Dixon 63.
Port Vale: Musselwhite, Aspin (Bogie 57), Tankard, Walker, Griffiths (Stokes 27),
D. Glover, McCarthy, Porter, Foyle, L. Glover (Mills 73), Guppy. Booked: D.
Glover, McCarthy.
Millwall: Keller, Newman, Thatcher, Doyle, Witter, Stevens, Savage (Rogan 73),
Rae, Malkin, Dixon (Taylor 84), Van Blerk (Bowry 73). Booked: Newman,
Thatcher, Rae, Stevens.
Att: 8,202
Ref: I Cruikshanks (Hartlepool).
Reading (1) 3 Derby (0) 2
Lovell 36, Morley 58, Nogan 90; Preece 83, Sturridge 62.
Reading: Sheppard, Jones, Gooding, Wdowczyk, A. Williams, McPherson, Gilkes
(Swales 88), Parkinson, Nogan, Lovell (Meaker 72), Morley. Subs Not Used: M.
Williams. Booked: Morley.
Derby: Sutton, Flynn, Wassall, Rowett, Powell, Harkes, Van der Laan, Trollope
(Cavanagh 72), Stallard (Sturridge 55), Willems, Simpson (Preece 55). Booked:
Powell, Preece, Cavanagh.
Att: 9,280
Ref: M E Pierce (Portsmouth).
Sheff Utd (0) 0 Tranmere (1) 2
Aldridge 42, 87.
Sheff Utd: Kelly, Ward, A. Scott, Holland, Tuttle, Nilsen, Rogers (Veart 75), R.
Scott (Beard 65), Flo, Blake, Whitehouse. Subs Not Used: Gayle.
Tranmere: Coyne, Teale, Thomas, McGreal, Garnett, O'Brien, Bennett, Aldridge,
Brannon, Irons, Nevin. Subs Not Used: Moore, Jones, Nixon.
Att: 11,247
Ref: W C Burns (Scarborough).
Southend (0) 0 Luton (0) 1
Thorpe 77
Southend: Royce, Dublin (Hails 71), Powell, Bodley, Lapper, Gridelet, Jones
(Ansah 63), Hone, Regis, Thomson, Tilson. Subs Not Used: Iorfa. Booked: Bodley,
Gridelet.
Luton: Sommer, James, Johnson, Davis, Hughes, Oldfield, Alexander (Thomas 68),
Marshall (Thorpe 68), Taylor, Guentchev (Waddock 45), Harvey. Sent Off: Hughes
(10). Booked: James.
Att: 4,630
Ref: G Pooley (Bishop's Stortford).
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| 493.2 | Table | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | J Hussey - Down in Dunure | Mon Aug 21 1995 10:46 | 56 |
The Electronic Telegraph Monday 21 August 1995 Football
Endsleigh Insurance League Division One
P W D L F A W D L F A Pts
Millwall 2 1 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 6
Tranmere 2 0 1 0 2 2 1 0 0 2 0 4
Reading 2 1 0 0 3 2 0 1 0 1 1 4
Stoke 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 3 2 4
Norwich 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 1 4
West Brom 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 4
Portsmouth 2 1 0 0 4 2 0 0 1 1 2 3
Barnsley 2 1 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 3 4 3
Oldham 2 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 1 1 2 3
Birmingham 2 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 1 1 3 3
Crystal Palace 2 1 0 0 4 3 0 0 1 0 1 3
Leicester 2 0 0 1 2 3 1 0 0 2 1 3
Charlton 2 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Grimsby 2 1 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 2 3
Watford 2 1 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 3
Ipswich 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 3 3
Luton 2 0 0 1 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 3
Huddersfield 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 3 3
Wolverhampton 2 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 2 2 2
Derby 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 1
Sunderland 2 0 0 1 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 1
Port Vale 2 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1
Southend 2 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 2 4 0
Sheff Utd 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 1 2 0
Leading Goalscorers
L F C E O T
Aldridge (Tranmere) 3 0 0 0 0 3
Bowen (Birmingham) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Brennan (Oldham) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Creaney (Portsmouth) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Dowie (Crystal Palace) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Newsome (Norwich) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Peschisolido (Stoke) 2 0 0 0 0 2
Thomson (Southend) 2 0 0 0 0 2
L=League, F=FA Cup, C=Coca-Cola Cup,
E=European, O=Other, T=Total.
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| 493.3 | Div 1 breakaway? | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Wed Sep 20 1995 12:27 | 6 |
The Swiss media are reporting that the Div 1 Clubs are revolting again. They say they're talking of leaving the FA, but I assume they mean FL. What's the plan - a 2-div Premier League? Or something separate. Do they know what they're doing? g | |||||
| 493.4 | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 20 1995 12:33 | 11 | |
Grahame,
The bits and pieces I've seen centre around the fact that certain clubs
believe that they deserve more of the FL money pot as they believe they
generate more of the income. The clubs in question are:
Palace, Millwall, Stoke, Wolves & Sunderland & A.N. Other (I did
see Barnsley bandied about but I presume that this was someones
idea of a sick joke)
Stuart
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| 493.5 | Q.E.D...... | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | Wed Sep 20 1995 13:51 | 11 | |
Well this certainly shows some of the realistic ambitions that these
clubs have of getting into the Premier League. It may be a little too
presumptious on my part but are we rapidly approching a situation ala
Italy and Spain where the ambition of the second league clubs is being
slowly squeezed out of them like a tube of toothpaste.
Football authorities and the clubs have made their bed...now they have
to lie in it....
Dezzz.
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| 493.6 | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 20 1995 14:09 | 15 | |
Dezzz,
I think it shows that these clubs have little � signs before their eyes
whilst realising that they cannot *afford* not to be in the
Premiership, particularly when it comes to transfer fees. Whilst this
particular area is under threat from the european Court (Legal Opinion
is due from the judge today - although quite what that is as judgement
will not be given until the end of the year), I forsee it going one of
two ways, either everyone will start getting long term, i.e. 10 year
contracts or else the transfer system will collapse and players will be
put on annual contracts. Which would mean getting rid of the dross.
Perhaps thats not a bad idea given the state of the current Arsenal
squad.
Stuart
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| 493.7 | "Ah, we're not ready to go up" | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | Wed Sep 20 1995 17:53 | 42 | |
Ah yes Stuart...reverse psychology...unless they get the big bucks this
season, even if they do get promoted they would have to be very
fortunate to
a) hang on to the good players that got them there in the
first place.
b) be able to bolster a side up to survive in the
premiership.
Now,...and this is just a maybe....
Some years ago (and I mean some years) Barrow were elected out of the
league. An interview with the chairman stated that things were much
easier, enjoyable and less stressful playing in the then Northern Premier
League. That's understandable from a non-League status.
There are teams in Italy who consistently get promoted and relegated
from Serie A (as in Spain ); very few...Cagliari may be one that moves
into what I would call the 'Coventry' mould. Coventry have been in the
top division since 1967 and have 1 honour to show for their stay. Teams
like Manchester Untited , Leeds , Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest
have all been in Division 2 since but have been able to mount
successful league campaigns.
Question to the panel...Under today's arrangements with Premier League
(SKY Money) , high transfers to survive; would it be better as a Five
year plan for Coventry to get relegated, pump the current market for
players fees and make the move for promotion once the market has
inevitably slows down ?
As football moves progressively into an agressively money
making/surviving entity...a similar batch of questions,dimemna will
face the chairmen of football clubs.
Was the charirman of Norwich City being obnoxious or was he just facing
reality last season ??!!??
Regards,
Dezzz.
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| 493.8 | Latest Div1 Table Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Points Millwall 14 8 4 2 17 11 28 Birmingham City 14 7 4 3 24 14 25 Leicester | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | You are only coming through in waves | Mon Oct 30 1995 11:08 | 31 |
Div 1 Table 29/10/95
Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Points
1 Millwall 14 8 4 2 17 11 28
2 Birmingham City 14 7 4 3 24 14 25
3 Leicester City 14 7 4 3 24 18 25
4 West Bromwich Albion 14 7 3 4 20 15 24
5 Sunderland 14 6 6 2 17 13 24
6 Tranmere Rovers 13 5 6 2 21 13 21
7 Charlton Athletic 14 5 6 3 18 13 21
8 Norwich City 14 5 6 3 19 15 21
9 Oldham Athletic 14 5 5 4 19 15 20
10 Grimsby Town 14 5 5 4 14 15 20
11 Ipswich Town 14 5 4 5 24 21 19
12 Barnsley 14 5 4 5 21 27 19
13 Huddersfield Town 14 5 3 6 17 20 18
14 Derby County 14 4 6 4 16 18 18
15 Southend United 14 5 3 6 12 16 18
16 Wolverhampton Wanderers 14 4 5 5 18 19 17
17 Crystal Palace 13 4 5 4 16 17 17
18 Reading 14 3 6 5 18 22 15
19 Stoke City 14 3 6 5 15 19 15
20 Watford 14 3 5 6 18 21 14
21 Portsmouth 14 3 4 7 19 23 13
22 Luton Town 14 3 3 8 10 17 12
23 Sheffield United 14 3 2 9 17 26 11
24 Port Vale 14 2 5 7 12 18 11
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| 493.9 | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Mon Oct 30 1995 11:27 | 6 | |
Thanks for putting that in Al (are you sure Sunderland are that high up?!!) Is this becoming another Goodbye note? Enter a copy of the Div 1 table and them leave? g | |||||
| 493.10 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | You are only coming through in waves | Mon Oct 30 1995 13:17 | 8 | |
You got it in one Graham ;-) I just copied it from the internet http://soccernet.com/index.html is the top level Al | |||||
| 493.11 | CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PATEMAN | From Jerry Garcia to Julie Andrews | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:00 | 21 | |
First Division Play Offs 1996 Sunday May 12th: 6th vs 3rd 5th vs 4th Wednesday May 15th: 3rd vs 6th 4th vs 5th Monday May 27th: Final at Wembley Play Off Teams: Certain: Crystal Palace 75pts Max 78pts Near Certain: Stoke 70/76 Charlton 69/75 Possible: Leicester 68/71 Ipswich 65/71 Real Outsiders: Huddersfield 63/69 Any other Endsleigh types like Statto Anderson like to put in the other leagues? Paul | |||||
| 493.12 | Luton, Watford and??? | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:20 | 4 |
Any news on the Div 1 relegation battle? I'm too scared to ask in the Reading note, just in case they're in mourning. g | |||||
| 493.13 | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:36 | 18 | |
>ask in the Reading note
Well they are just outside the regelation area at the moment... they
have a spare point plus a few goals in hand....
They got creamed 3-0 at the weekend by Sheffield United.
Its obviously going to go right down to the last match... where Reading
get relegated and Watford stay up.... ;->
Any comments Stretch??
Its looking bad for Pompey at the moment... I think they have just
dropped into the bottom 3....
Cheers,
Rick.
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| 493.14 | And at the Bottom..... | CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PATEMAN | From Jerry Garcia to Julie Andrews | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:43 | 42 |
Bottom of Div 1: 24 Luton P44 Pts 42 Gls Scored 37 - RELEGATED 23 Watford 45/48/62 22 Pompey 45/49/60 =========================================== 21 Reading 44/50/49 20 Oldham 44/50/51 19 Millwall 45/51/43 Remaining Games: TUES: Oldham v Stoke Reading v Wolves SUN: B'ham v Reading Huddersfield v Pompey Ipswich v Millwall Oldham v Luton Watford v Leicester On current form I would reckon: Oldham 4pts Reading 2 pts Pompey 0 pts Millwall 0 pts Watford 3 pts Which leaves it as: 24 Luton 23 Pompey 22 Millwall (On Goals) ======================== 21 Watford 20 Reading 19 Oldham But maybe that's South London wishful thinking! Paul | |||||
| 493.15 | Black bands at the ready! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Insane in the membrane! | Mon Apr 29 1996 14:08 | 12 |
g/Rick,
Basically, Reading have their fate in their hands (omigawd!). If they
beat Wolves on Tuesday at home (possible) we will stay up. I for one do
not want to rely on an away trip to St Andrews to decide things.
The "creaming" was rather unfortunate given the goal diff between us
and Oldham. At 85 mins the game was still 1 - 0 to the Blades (Christ
they brouhgt a big crowd with them!) but by the 90th it was 3 - 0 !!!
Stretch.
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| 493.16 | CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PATEMAN | From Jerry Garcia to Julie Andrews | Wed May 01 1996 14:26 | 8 | |
After last night's games the Div 1 relegation issues are clearer with 2 of Watford, Portsmouth & Millwall to go down. At the top, Palace are confirmed in 3rd, Stoke & Charlton are still not guaranteed a play off place. The situation could clear a little after Ipswich play Huddersfield tonight. Paul | |||||
| 493.17 | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm in a Champagne SuperNova.... | Wed May 01 1996 14:45 | 5 | |
Come on you Terriers.... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
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| 493.18 | CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PATEMAN | From Jerry Garcia to Julie Andrews | Thu May 02 1996 09:12 | 17 | |
Ipswich's win against Huddersfield reduces the Premier scramble to 3 from 4: Charlton 70 pts Stoke 70 pts Ipswich 68 pts Leicester 68 pts Intriguingly, the relegation battle will also be decided by these teams as the key fixtures are: Watford v Leicester Ipswich v Millwall Stoke v Southend Charlton v Wolves Huddersfield v Portsmouth Paul | |||||