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Conference trucks::football;1

Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

461.0. "European Comission : UEFA 3 Foreigner rule illegal !!!!" by XSTACY::PHAYDEN (� Ne�-Max�-Z��n-Dweeb�e) Fri Dec 09 1994 10:37

The UEFA 3 Foreigner rule has been found to be in contravention of the "Treaty
of Rome" after a case involving the Dutch footballer Johnny Bosman( sp ? ).

As a result, UEFA can be fined a maximum of 10% of their turnover from the date
when the rule was introduced . The rule must also be abolished.

Maybe somebody else out there has more info on the implications etc...

Peter
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461.1CHEFS::GEORGEMI feel violent.Fri Dec 09 1994 10:455
I assume that this is because football is now a "profession", and limiting 
players from playing due to their nationality is restriction of trade, or even 
racism.  It's about time they sorted this crap out, because we'll never know who 
the best team in the world/Europe is until all teams are allowed their 
full-strength outfits.  (IMO)
461.2RTFM1::GENIE::GOODEJMr Dragon - 761 4831Fri Dec 09 1994 10:546
    
    Presumably this will mean the ManU will be reinstated.
    
    JBG
    
    8-)
461.3CHEFS::GEORGEMOur love becomes a funeral pyre...Fri Dec 09 1994 10:551
..or they'll buy Klinnsman.
461.4CHEFS::GEORGEMOur love becomes a funeral pyre...Fri Dec 09 1994 10:561
..or that Welshman Jones the fist.  Vinny to his "friends".
461.5REOSV2::STRATFORDSFri Dec 09 1994 11:093
    Obviously the Commission is full of Mancs ;-)
    
    
461.6Don't get excited MANCS - yetISIDRO::BREADIEFri Dec 09 1994 11:449
    I don't think anything has changed. UEFA do not prevent any team from
    employing anyone. Therefore no restriction of free movement between
    member states.   What they do is limit the number to be played in any
    one game.  A subtlety perhaps but this is how they got round the ruling
    last time.
    
    Or has Europe a law about what work people are employed to do ?
    
    Denis
461.7FORTY2::FOWLERMSammy Chung's Scarlet ArmyFri Dec 09 1994 11:454
How will this affect domestic rules like the Serie A requirement to have only 3
foreigners per side?

Mike
461.8WARNUT::PICKERINGSSimon PickeringFri Dec 09 1994 12:394
    Where did .0 get details of the ruling from? can you post the full
    text?
    
    [PS:Vinny Jones is having trouble proving his granddad was Welsh.]
461.9Venables solution: buy RomarioSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeFri Dec 09 1994 12:4718
    
> How will this affect domestic rules like the Serie A requirement to have
> only 3 foreigners per side?
    
    A valid question. I think most countries has some kind of regulation
    concerning this.
    
    I have always wondered how the trade legislators want to clamp down on
    rules for foreigners playing club football, but don't find anything to
    complain about when it comes to national teams, where *no* foreigners
    are allowed (except for the Irish team of course)
    
    After all, from a legislators point of view, there can't be any
    difference between playing football for money and playing football for
    money. Or can it?
    
    These lawyers should stick to doing what they're good at, counting
    money.
461.10REOSV2::STRATFORDSFri Dec 09 1994 13:567
    >[PS:Vinny Jones is having trouble proving his granddad was Welsh.]
    
    According to Sky last night, the birth certificate had turned up.
    Apparently, Frankenstein was conducting experiments in the Valleys at
    the time ;-)
    
    Stuart
461.11IRNBRU::HOWARDFri Dec 09 1994 14:535
    .10
    
    I've always had doubts about his parents marital status....8-))))
    
    Ray....
461.12CHEFS::GEORGEMEveryone thinks he looks daft...Fri Dec 09 1994 14:546
According to the "Daily Welsh stereotype herald" Vinny Jones has turned out to 
be the result of some bizzare experiment involving a lump of coal, Shirley 
Bassey, Harry Secombe, Shakin' Stevens and an angry ram on heat.

This cross-breed is apparently known as a c**t, it's latin name being Playus 
likus moronicus.
461.13I'd take evens ;-)REOSV2::STRATFORDSFri Dec 09 1994 14:593
    Wonder what odds Ladbrokes will be offering for him to get sent off on
    his international debut. I would think anything better than evens (or
    should that be evans?) would be a tad generous
461.14XSTACY::PHAYDEN� Ne�-Max�-Z��n-Dweeb�eMon Dec 12 1994 11:4812
I'd love to post the complete ruling but I threw out last wednesday's "Irish
Times" in which it was printed . 
Maybe there's something on the Internet. As I said the whole ruling stems from
an action taken by a Dutch Player, Bosman, who was transfered from a Dutch to a
French club. There was a contractual dispute between clubs and Bosman argued
that his legal right to pursue his profession was being impeeded. The case was
brought before the European courts where the ruling was made on the 3 Foreigner
restriction. The article didn't mention any consequences other than the fine for
UEFA . 


Peter.
461.15Jean Marc is not JohnnyPLAYER::ROOSELEERSRooseleers Jo 856 8067Mon Dec 12 1994 16:225
    Shouldn't it be the Belgian player Jean Marc Bosman who used to play
    for FC Liege and was not allowed a transfer to a French team and never
    played football again (professionally) to my knowledge ?
    
    Jo
461.16XSTACY::PHAYDEN� Ne�-Max�-Z��n-Dweeb�eMon Dec 12 1994 16:333
You could vey well be right. My memory ain't as good as it used to be.

Frank.
461.17GENIE::BOLGERFunny Scotty,now beam down my clothes!Mon Dec 12 1994 17:447
    Frank,
    
    I suffer from the same problem. Trouble is, by the time I get to the 
    doctor's  I've forgotten why I went there !
    
    
    Bob.
461.18:-))))XSTACY::PHAYDEN� Ne�-Max�-Z��n-Dweeb�eTue Dec 13 1994 11:330