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| 397.1 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Fri Jun 17 1994 23:02 | 53 |
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Here are the known games so far, in order of date of play.
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea
June 18 USA v Switzerland
Colombia v Romania
Italy v Ireland
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden
Norway v Mexico
Belgium v Morocco
June 20 Brazil v Russia
Holland v Saudi Arabia
June 21 Germany v Spain
Argentina v Greece
Nigeria v Bulgaria
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.2 | What is this thing called Soccer...???? | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Sat Jun 18 1994 09:11 | 15 |
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Germany 1 Bolivia 0
Klinsmann scored the only goal, as the Germans start their slow roll
to the final with three points.
Spain 2 S Korea 2
Spain were 2-0 up with five minutes to go.
Dave...
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| 397.3 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Sat Jun 18 1994 11:00 | 12 |
|
I wonder what the Germans slipped the Bolivian goalie at half time.
One minute Ray Clements won't stop complementing him, the next......
....for those who didn't see it, a German lobs the Bolivian defense
(was it Matteaus from inside his own half?) & beats the offside trap.
The Bolivian keeper decides to play sweeper, charges right out of his
area & falls overs trying to tackle the German who's collected the
ball. The ball breaks to Klinsmann who has to knock it into an empty
net....shades of Brian Finch, eh Jerry??
JBG
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| 397.4 | USA-Switzerland 1-1 | COPCLU::SIIG | Great Dane at Large | Sun Jun 19 1994 02:07 | 22 |
| Goals:
0-1 Georges Bregy ('40)
1-1 Eric Wynalda ('44)
Warnings:
Dominique Herr, Switzerland
Nestor Subiat, Switzerland
John Harkes, USA
Attendance:
77.557
Eric Wynalda struck a spectacular free-kick as the hosts started with
an entertaining draw in Detroit. Wynalda sent the crowd wild when he
curled the ball in off from 30 yards on the stroke of half-time.
Switzerland always looked the more accomplished side and Georges Brey
gave them a 40th minute lead with another free-kick.
Both sides had their chances in the firste World Cup tie played under
aroof and the USA showed they could make progress.
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| 397.5 | Italy-Eire 0-1 | COPCLU::SIIG | Great Dane at Large | Sun Jun 19 1994 02:23 | 19 |
| Goal:
0-1 Ray Houghton ('12)
Warnings:
Terry Phelan, Eire
Tommy Coyne, Eire
Denis Irwin, Eire
Attendance:
75.338
Ray Houghton scored with a 30-yard thunderbolt after just 11 minutes to
earn the Republic a memorable victory over Italy in New York.
Houghton intercepted an attempted clearance by Franco Baresi and drove
the ball over the woefully out-of-position Gianluca Pagliuca.
John Sheridan had a great chance to increase the Irish lead on 71
minutes, but his efforts hit the bar.
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| 397.6 | Colombia-Romania 1-3 | COPCLU::SIIG | Great Dane at Large | Sun Jun 19 1994 03:55 | 27 |
| Goals:
0-1 Florin Raducioiu ('15)
0-2 Gheorghe Hagi ('34)
1-2 Adolfo Valencia ('43)
1-3 Florin Raducioiu ('89)
Warnings:
Luis Herrera, Colombia
Florin Raducioiu, Romania
Carlos Valderrama, Colombia
Leonel Alvarez, Colombia
Attendance:
91.200
The Game:
Romania upset the title hopes of the highly-fancied Colombians with a
superb perfomance in Los Angeles.
Both sides gave a dazzling display but the Eastern Europeans produced
three killer punches on the break to steal the points.
Florin Raducioiu hit opportunist goals after 15 and 89 minutes and the
brilliant Gheorghe Hagi scored a spectacular cross-shot on 34 mins.
All the colombians had to show for their fluent game was a 43rd minute
header from Adolfo Valencia.
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| 397.7 | Summary | MASALA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in.... | Sun Jun 19 1994 09:14 | 52 |
| In summary, then
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden
Norway v Mexico
Belgium v Morocco
June 20 Brazil v Russia
Holland v Saudi Arabia
June 21 Germany v Spain
Argentina v Greece
Nigeria v Bulgaria
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.8 | Up to Sunday night | PAKORA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in.... | Mon Jun 20 1994 08:31 | 52 |
| In summary, again, then
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia
Holland v Saudi Arabia
June 21 Germany v Spain
Argentina v Greece
Nigeria v Bulgaria
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.9 | Ranking sheet. | SUBURB::FIXEDASSETS | Derek Roodenberg, Dutch at heart | Mon Jun 20 1994 12:27 | 14 |
| If anyone is interested I have written a spreadsheet on Excel that will
keep list all the groups and the results. (Provided you enter them!) It
will even predict the second round listing after every team has played
at least one game. (The third places are a bit dodgy though, they might
have to be manually entered). It can be found at:
PCBOOT::DISK$PC_USERS:[USERS.LAWI]WCUP2.XLS
MACRO1.XLM
The macro needs to be copied as well and is run by pressing CTRL-Z.
This will update the scores you have entered and order the teams in
their groups.
Derek
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| 397.10 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Egg and bacon soda please... | Mon Jun 20 1994 13:16 | 141 |
|
Group A
P W D L GF GA Pts
Romania 1 1 0 0 3 1 3
USA 1 0 1 0 1 1 1
Switzerland 1 0 1 0 1 1 1
Colombia 1 0 0 1 1 3 0
18th June '94
Pontiac USA 1-1 Switzerland
Pasadena Colombia 1-3 Romania
22nd June '94
Pontiac Switzerland v Romania
Pasadena USA v Colombia
26th June '94
Pasadena USA v Romania
Stanford Switzerland v Colombia
Group B
P W D L GF GA Pts
Cameroon 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
Sweden 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
Brazil 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Russia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
19th June '94
Pasadena Cameroon 2-2 Sweden
20th June '94
Stanford Brazil v Russia
24th June '94
Stanford Brazil v Cameroon
Pontiac Russia v Sweden
Group C
P W D L GF GA Pts
Germany 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Spain 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
Republic of Korea 1 0 1 0 2 2 1
Bolivia 1 0 0 1 0 1 0
17th June '94
Chicago Germany 1-0 Bolivia
Dallas Spain 2-2 Republic of Korea
21st June '94
Chicago Germany v Spain
23rd June '94
Foxboro Bolivia v Republic of Korea
27th June '94
Dallas Germany v Republic of Korea
Chicago Bolivia v Spain
Group D
P W D L GF GA Pts
Argentina 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Greece 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nigeria 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Bulgaria 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
21st June '94
Foxboro Argentina v Greece
Dallas Nigeria v Bulgaria
25th June '94
Foxboro Argentina v Nigeria
26th June '94
Chicago Greece v Bulgaria
30th June '94
Dallas Argentina v Bulgaria
Foxboro Greece v Nigeria
Group E
P W D L GF GA Pts
Ireland 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Norway 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Italy 1 0 0 1 0 1 0
Mexico 1 0 0 1 0 1 0
18th June '94
East Rutherford Italy 0-1 Ireland
19th June '94
Washington Norway 1-0 Mexico
23rd June '94
East Rutherford Italy v Norway
24th June '94
Orlando Ireland v Mexico
28th June '94
Washington Italy v Mexico
East Rutherford Ireland v Norway
Group F
P W D L GF GA Pts
Belgium 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Holland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Saudi Arabia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Morocco 1 0 0 1 0 1 0
19th June '94
Orlando Belgium 1-0 Morocco
20th June '94
Washington Holland v Saudi Arabia
25th June '94
Orlando Belgium v Holland
East Rutherford Morocco v Saudi Arabia
29th June '94
Orlando Morocco v Holland
Washington Belgium v Saudi Arabia
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| 397.11 | Re. .9 - File protection violation | YOUWOT::HOUSEN | World famous brick hypnotist | Mon Jun 20 1994 14:55 | 10 |
| RE: Note .9
Derek,
I tried mailing you off-line (but couldn't guess your address correctly! and
you are not on ELF). I was interested in having a look at the EXCEL files you
have created, but there seems to be a file protection violation... can you
re-set the protection, so I can copy the files?
Cheers... Norman
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| 397.12 | More into Excel than VMS | SUBURB::FIXEDASSETS | Derek Roodenberg, Dutch at heart | Mon Jun 20 1994 15:21 | 6 |
| Thanks for letting me know. I shall try to change the protection. I
thought I set it so that anyone could access it, I even tried from
somewhere else to see if I could copy it which worked. I will try again
right now. If you have any further problems please let me know.
Derek (FIXED ASSETS @REO)
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| 397.13 | BRAZIL won in style | SNOC01::PAUKAGABOR | | Tue Jun 21 1994 01:32 | 52 |
| In summary, again, then
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia
June 21 Germany v Spain
Argentina v Greece
Nigeria v Bulgaria
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.14 | Update to Monday night/afternoon | PAKORA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in.... | Tue Jun 21 1994 08:19 | 52 |
| In summary, again, then
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain
Argentina v Greece
Nigeria v Bulgaria
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.15 | Still unavailable | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jun 21 1994 13:08 | 6 |
| Derek (FIXED ASSETS @REO)
Re your spreadsheet, still can't get at it - protection violation
- 7am EDST Tues
Gerry
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| 397.16 | Help needed | BRSISD::PALMKE::roosen | | Tue Jun 21 1994 17:57 | 13 |
| Derek,
I trtied to execute your macro without remembering the control key and I didn't
succeed to run the macro. How should I insert the macro in the spreadsheet?
Finally we could run the macro but in a inproper way, and what happened.....
Holland only got 2 points.
What's wrong?
Paddy
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| 397.17 | Tuesday Update | PAKORA::AMILLAR | And some late news just in.... | Wed Jun 22 1994 08:34 | 52 |
| In summary, again, then, again....
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania
USA v Colombia
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.18 | 2 points, it should have been 4. | SUBURB::FIXEDASSETS | Derek Roodenberg, Dutch at heart | Wed Jun 22 1994 10:56 | 17 |
| I am afraid a little bug escaped my attention when creating the
spreadsheet. If you copy it again it will run correctly. (BTW I am
Dutch so this was a terrible mistake!!) All you need to do to run the
macro is open it like you would a spreadsheet and then stick the actual
spreadsheet over the top. CTRL-Z will then update everything.
From today onwards all teams have played one game. This means the
places for the 2nd round as they stand at the moment are showing.
Italy is not through !!as it stands!!
I have found out why there was a problem with the protection
violations. Everytime I update the spreadsheet with the scores it
resets itself to no access. Now I know I will reset the protection so
the sheet can be copied. If you get a message try again a few minutes
later and it will work.
Derek
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| 397.19 | Some pretty useless info | IRNBRU::MACKENZIE | | Wed Jun 22 1994 13:12 | 17 |
| The second round as it stands at the moment is...
Germany vs Sweden
USA vs Spain
Cameroon vs Belgium
Romania vs S.Korea
Netherlands vs Norway
Brazil vs Switzerland
Argentina vs Saudia Arabia
Ireland vs Nigeria
with the two non-qualifing third place teams Italy and Bulgaria.
Of course there is a long way to go...
Dave.
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| 397.20 | Commentary on the commentary | XSTACY::PATTISON | A rolling stone gets the worm | Wed Jun 22 1994 14:32 | 11 |
|
Are commentaries relayed exactly in sync with the picture?
It may be my imagination, but a couple of times its seemed to me
that commentators announce goals/saves AS they happen, ie they
couldn't possibly have reacted so fast.
Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just that I've had too many
late nights...
Dave
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| 397.21 | surprise result | SNOC01::PAUKAGABOR | | Thu Jun 23 1994 01:24 | 7 |
| Switzerland 4 - Rumania 1
Is this a surprise or what?
Gabor
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| 397.22 | | LEDS::FORST | Rainer Forst SHR1-3/O13 DTN 237-3016 | Thu Jun 23 1994 02:09 | 10 |
| No. The offense and part of the mid-field of the swiss team plays
with prominent success in the german Bundesliga. So, that part of the
swiss team is world-class. The tie with them was a big success for
the US team. The only (negative) surprize in that group is Colombia,
so far.
Also, I hear that the african teams are 'surprizingly' good. That is
wrong, too. Many of them kick a*s on the junior level since years, they
have top players in the french and german leagues since years. It is
just a matter of time when they get very good teams together. The
time may have come now. No surprize.
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| 397.23 | GREAT USA | ZPOVC::DAIV01::TONNY | | Thu Jun 23 1994 04:17 | 6 |
|
USA - Columbia 2-1
VIVA USA !!!!!!
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| 397.24 | Upsets all the way. | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | � Ne�-Max�-Z��n-Dweeb�e | Thu Jun 23 1994 10:30 | 11 |
| I'm delighted that the USA won in light of the fact that this is really turning
out to be a very good World Cup and it will add that bit of interest now that it
looks like they'll progress to the second phase. I didn't see the game so can
someone give a quick review. The only thing is that Colombia will be like a
wounded lion comming out to play Switzerland. That should be a game to watch.
Well done Switzerland. Saw the game live yesterday evening and reckon that it
was one of the best games so far. Great entertaining stuff !
Peter.
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| 397.25 | USA 2 Colombia 1 | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Thu Jun 23 1994 10:50 | 17 |
|
USA played well and fully deserved the win. Lalas had a perfectly
good goal disallowed for offside that would have made it 2-0 just
before they did anyway. Colombia were poor, vastly over-rated and
tried to pass the ball into the net. Their goal came in injury
time. The US defence haeld them comfortably on the edge of the box
for most of the second half.
Moment of the match was Balboa trying a bicycle kick following a
corner. He hit it so well that neither the goalkeeper nor the
defender on the line by the post even moved! If it had been a foot
to the right it would have taken the defender through the back of
the net - unfortunately, it shave the wrong side of the upright.
Possibly the cleanest strike of this kind I've ever seen. You'll
see this moment repeated ad infinitum over the next three weeks...
Andy.
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| 397.26 | | MUNSBE::CHEQUER | It's the way I write um | Thu Jun 23 1994 11:06 | 11 |
| Well done the US. It's a shame though because Colombia were an early
favorite of mine, due to an inside tip from a local waitress. Colombia
are no push over, the US have done VERY well to beat them.
The Colombia attack were just as wishy-washie against Romania, they
seem to get the ball into the box and then .... nothing... its a shame
that carlos waldamena (sp?) is playing for them, because he really does
have talent
mark
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| 397.27 | Wednesday update | XSTACY::JDUGGAN | | Thu Jun 23 1994 11:10 | 54 |
| Another update.... still no 0-0 draws !!
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway
South Korea v Bolivia
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.28 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Baby don't cry | Thu Jun 23 1994 11:12 | 10 |
| The bloke in the Columbian side with the BIG hair is a total waste of
space. I have never seen a player with so much hype play so badly. Just
about every pass he plays either goes out or straight to the opposition.
He's afraid to have a shot at goal and loses the ball every time he
gets it. His only good point is his hair, which means I can recognise
when Columbia are about to lose the ball.
Well done USA. Harkes is having a stormer so far.
Rich.
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| 397.29 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Thu Jun 23 1994 11:27 | 20 |
| > Possibly the cleanest strike of this kind I've ever seen. You'll
> see this moment repeated ad infinitum over the next three weeks...
I wonder now will CBS and NBC show a little of what their 'boys'
can do.
This World Cup is certainly shaping up into some tournament....
Of the top 5 favorites...only Brasil...seem to have started reasonably
well.
Kicker this morning....
Matthaeus kritisiert: Unsere Taktik stimmt noch nicht !
Matthaeus criticises: Our tactics are not yet right...
Sounds like the moaner has begun....
Dezzz.
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| 397.30 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Dillydallying and shillyshallying | Thu Jun 23 1994 13:25 | 7 |
|
Are Colombia definitely out then, or can they still get through if the
remaining results go their way??
Tony
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| 397.31 | Columbia | YOUWOT::HOUSEN | World famous brick hypnotist | Thu Jun 23 1994 13:48 | 8 |
| Tony,
They can still get third place (whivh may be good enough) if USA beat
Rumania and Columbia beat Switzerland. Assuming USA won 1-0, then Columbia
would need a 3-0 win to be equal on points and goal difference with
Rumania... (don't know what they do in those cases, though?)
Norman
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| 397.32 | on to round 2 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | S'il Vous pla�t, o� est le bar? | Thu Jun 23 1994 14:03 | 26 |
| Great result for the U.S.
I intended to watch 'til � time, expecting the Columbians to be up by 2/3 but it
was so well balanced, that I wouldn't have been able to sleep so I stayed up for
the rest. I was glad I did, Until I woke up this afternoon (In fact I'm still
asleep :-)
The states played a very disciplined game, defending in numbers, and also as a
team. They had a couple of scares ( defender knocking against his own post) but
were very solid, and countering the Columbians tactics just about every time.
The first goal was unfortunate, but with the way Cordoba was playing in goal, I
think Stewart would have put Harkes' cross away had the defender not done so.
The second goal was shear class.
Balboa's effort was superb, Even the bicycle kick maestro Hugo Sanchez couldn't
have hit that one any better (If only they'd increased the size of the goals ;-)
You can tell that the Columbian's are a good side, however, they've just run out
of ideas for this World Cup. Valderrama has been a waste of space so far, no
incisive defense splitting passes, just piddly 5yard 1-2s which he invariably
loses.
re: equal on pts and GD. Wouldn't they draw lots, like the last world Cup.
Al
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| 397.33 | Columia would have to win 4-0 | GALVIA::BSMITH | fweeze wabbit ........ | Thu Jun 23 1994 14:04 | 8 |
|
<They can still get third place (whivh may be good enough) if USA beat
<Rumania and Columbia beat Switzerland. Assuming USA won 1-0, then Columbia
<would need a 3-0 win to be equal on points and goal difference with
<Rumania... (don't know what they do in those cases, though?)
The winner of the game between the two teams would go through, i.e. Romania,
because they won 3-1.
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| 397.34 | Preds: Columbia....1 Switzerland.....3 | MASALA::JJACK | | Thu Jun 23 1994 14:16 | 9 |
|
Let's get things into perspective. On previous performances, the USA
may beat Romania by one or two goals. However, me finx Columbia have as
much chance of beating Switzerland, as glasgow rangers have of ever
winning the European Cup.
8*))
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| 397.35 | Columbian Quote | TOPTEN::GARAY | COACH | Thu Jun 23 1994 18:27 | 5 |
|
There was quote in the newpapers from the Columbian coach saying that
at halftime he wanted to put in more then the allowed 2 subs and
replace all 11 players
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| 397.36 | Honesty | MUFC::TONY | | Thu Jun 23 1994 18:39 | 9 |
| >> There was quote in the newpapers from the Columbian coach saying that
>> at halftime he wanted to put in more then the allowed 2 subs and
>> replace all 11 players
At least he's honest....Just imagine if EIRE lost a game what the excuses will be
Tony
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| 397.37 | Columbia - unusual performance !?!? | HTSC19::SIMONLAU | | Fri Jun 24 1994 06:27 | 11 |
| the performance of most Columbian players in the last 2 games,
especially the match vs USA makes me think of :
drugs - gambling - loses
!!!????
Simon
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| 397.38 | | KURMA::GPIKE | | Fri Jun 24 1994 07:19 | 2 |
|
you missed the I'll blow up your family if you play against the USA,
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| 397.39 | Something we don't know behind the threat ? | HGOCS::SIMONLAU | | Fri Jun 24 1994 09:30 | 12 |
| Thanks. I didn't miss that point.
It won't surprise me if there's something else behind that simple
threat. The first thing comes to my mind is - cocane gangsters and
gambling.
Any experienced soccer fan would be surprised by the unusual response
of the Columbia players after 1:0 , 2:0....in the 2 previous matches.
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| 397.40 | Another quote ... | HBFDT1::PLEWKA | Dschiepie | Fri Jun 24 1994 12:05 | 7 |
|
Another quote from Maturana (the columbian coach)
If we would have tried to give our worst, it would not have
been any worse than this ...
So he seemed really disappointed ...
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| 397.41 | What was the score | NSIC00::ROLLITT | | Fri Jun 24 1994 12:49 | 4 |
| I've scanned but can't find the score from S. Korea and Columbia last
nite. Can anyone make me current (not a currant)
Simon
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| 397.42 | | EASE::SMYTH | | Fri Jun 24 1994 12:54 | 9 |
| Lifeless scoreless game, first of the world cup.
I think a Columbian was sent off.
G .S in Dubiln
Ireland to win 2-1 against Mexico this evening with Keane getting his first
international goal for Ireland
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| 397.43 | | UTROP1::JANSEN | Reading Blondes have more fun | Fri Jun 24 1994 12:58 | 5 |
| rep last 2
Columbia? Bolivia!
T_
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| 397.44 | Roberto Longo is very BIAS!!!!!! | NEMAIL::PILATON | Nick Pilato DECUS IM&T Supervisor | Fri Jun 24 1994 13:50 | 26 |
| RE last 3
Yes! it was Bolivia vs South Korea...
I watched it on UNIVISION to hear Andres Cantor Yell
GGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!
for about 35 seconds.... but no luck! I was very surprised at the
level of bias on the part of the other guy! he kept on saying that
everything Korea did was bad.... and everything Bolivia did was good!
Every foul from the Korean deserved a red card.... but when the
Bolivian fouled... well, that was a legal tackle and..... it looked
like from the front... and.... well you know......
Flame on! (Llama encentida!)
GET A LIFE!!!! THE AMERICAN REPORTERS MIGHT NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE
GAME..... BUT THEY CALL THEM AS THEY SEE THEM!..
Flame off (Llama pagada!)
One consequense (sp.) they do give all the games, and live!
I guess I can overlook the bias for the LATINOS....
Nick
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| 397.45 | | UNTADE::PCAS | Eat stool food | Fri Jun 24 1994 14:21 | 19 |
| > GET A LIFE!!!! THE AMERICAN REPORTERS MIGHT NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE
> GAME..... BUT THEY CALL THEM AS THEY SEE THEM!..
Are you serious? - even when the US are playing?
If this is true, then I don't know whether I should be impressed or
disappointed.
I don't think I've ever heard truely unbiased commentary.
Although I've only heard commentary in England, Ireland, Germany and
France. ALL have been biased, some worse than others.
Personally, I don't mind this if either :-
1. I'm supporting the country who is being praised.
or
2. I'm supporting the country who is winning, but being slagged off by
the commentator.
Al.
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| 397.46 | 19 games without a loss. | ELIS::BOEREN | I aim to please. Then I fire! | Fri Jun 24 1994 16:15 | 19 |
| RE.-1
Here (in Holland) it's the other way around. The dutch commentators are
always putting the dutch team down. Even when they are playing well,
they can *always* find something to complain about.
I guess it's just that they expect our team (with many *very* good
players, but a bit too many disappointing results) to do better than
they are doing, always.
About the Columbian team: They got death-threaths(sp?) from their own
country!!!
About Switzerland. They certainly *do* have a good team. They haven't
lost a game in 19 games. Yes, you saw it right. They either won or drew
their last 19 games. Even some good teams in those 19 too.
I'm not sure, but I thought Italy, Germany, Rumania, Bulgaria and some
others. Well, those last two teams may not be playing well this WC, but
normally, they play good football.
Marcel
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| 397.47 | update | STRATA::QNGUYEN | | Fri Jun 24 1994 23:57 | 55 |
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Another update.... still no 0-0 draws !!
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.48 | | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Sat Jun 25 1994 01:34 | 7 |
| >> Another update.... still no 0-0 draws !!
>> South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
Sure looks like one to me :>)
Gerry
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| 397.49 | update | PAKORA::GPIKE | | Sat Jun 25 1994 23:18 | 55 |
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Yet another update...
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon 3-0
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland 1-0
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.50 | another result | STAR::CASSILY | | Sun Jun 26 1994 00:38 | 3 |
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Argentina 2 Nigeria 1
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| 397.51 | lets keep it updated | PAKORA::GPIKE | | Sun Jun 26 1994 00:44 | 54 |
|
June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia 3-1
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon 3-0
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria 2-1
Saudi Arabia v Morocco
Belgium v Holland 1-0
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.52 | ... and another one | BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHT | | Sun Jun 26 1994 13:08 | 52 |
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June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia 3-1
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon 3-0
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria 2-1
Saudi Arabia v Morocco 2-1
Belgium v Holland 1-0
June 26 USA v Romania
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.53 | A Midsummer Night's Dream | BCFI::LIDEN | | Sun Jun 26 1994 14:11 | 30 |
| Last Friday was Midsummer Eve in Sweden.
Everyone is off work and you celebrate with parties eating herring and
drinking akvavit (vodka).
So well prepared the Swedish nation sat down to see Sweden's first WC win
in 20 years.
And we got it. And very convincingly as well. Dahlin's header in the 82nd
minute was a cracker. One of the best goals so far in the tournament.
Brolin who was playing like a zoombie against Cameroon was playing very
well as a link in between midfield and attack. Rumours have been on for a
while that Cruyff wants to swap him against Stoichov (Parma - Barca).
Dahlin was super both in attack and defense. I hope a good club in Italy
or Spain will come in and overbid Everton and M�nchengladbach. I do not
think he fits that well into English football, even if I am a Liverpool
fan myself.
Daaaaaaahhhlllllliiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnn!!
Now it looks like Holland - Sweden in Dallas in the eighths.
Holland has not been convincing this far so I have good hopes.
Met de meeste hoogachting Duitse vriendjes. (sp?) (I was with Philips for
14 years, before we were bought by Digital)
Christer
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| 397.54 | USA result | XSTACY::JDUGGAN | | Mon Jun 27 1994 09:39 | 52 |
| June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia 3-1
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon 3-0
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria 2-1
Saudi Arabia v Morocco 2-1
Belgium v Holland 1-0
June 26 USA v Romania 0-1
Switzerland v Colombia
Bulgaria v Greece
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.55 | Best game yet! | ELIS::BOEREN | I aim to please. Then I fire! | Mon Jun 27 1994 13:22 | 10 |
| RE.-2
I guess you missed Belgium - Holland?
If not: you think Holland didn't play well? Ha!
I think Belgium - Holland was the best match of the tournament so far.
About your dutch sentence:
Very good, only we are the Nederlandse vriendjes, the Duitse vriendjes
are the Germans, and I just hope that you didn't mean that. :)
Marcel
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| 397.56 | Two more from yesterday ... | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Jun 27 1994 13:24 | 51 |
| June 17 Germany v Bolivia 1-0
Spain v South Korea 2-2
June 18 USA v Switzerland 1-1
Colombia v Romania 1-3
Italy v Ireland 0-1
June 19 Cameroon v Sweden 2-2
Norway v Mexico 1-0
Belgium v Morocco 1-0
June 20 Brazil v Russia 2-0
Holland v Saudi Arabia 2-1
June 21 Germany v Spain 1-1
Argentina v Greece 4-0
Nigeria v Bulgaria 3-0
June 22 Switzerland v Romania 4-1
USA v Colombia 2-1
June 23 Italy v Norway 1-0
South Korea v Bolivia 0-0
June 24 Sweden v Russia 3-1
Ireland v Mexico 1-2
Brazil v Cameroon 3-0
June 25 Argentina v Nigeria 2-1
Saudi Arabia v Morocco 2-1
Belgium v Holland 1-0
June 26 USA v Romania 0-1
Switzerland v Colombia 0-2
Bulgaria v Greece 4-0
June 27 Bolivia v Spain
Germany v South Korea
June 28 Russia v Cameroon
Brazil v Sweden
Ireland v Norway
Italy v Mexico
June 29 Morocco v Holland
Belgium v Saudi Arabia
June 30 Greece v Nigeria
Argentina v Bulgaria
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| 397.57 | Nederlandse | BCFI::LIDEN | | Mon Jun 27 1994 18:34 | 7 |
| Nederlandse of course. Sorry Marcel.
I missed the Netherlands - Belgium game, which I have heard from friends
and seen here was a good game. Some having a different opinion of course
in note 383.
Christer
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| 397.58 | Glasgow Rangers:European Cup Winners 1995. | PAKORA::ISUTHERLAND | I'll be forever blue... | Tue Jun 28 1994 03:02 | 4 |
|
RE:.34
Good shout JJ,the champagne's already on ice.
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| 397.59 | USA in trouble?? | COMET::ANTHONY_B | Parts is Parts | Tue Jun 28 1994 06:50 | 4 |
| Well, maybe the USA got a wake up call. they sure didn't play up to
expectations yesterday. That is except for the first few minutes.
They have to squeak into round two and then the men and boys are
separated...
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| 397.60 | | ELIS::BOEREN | I aim to please. Then I fire! | Tue Jun 28 1994 11:24 | 12 |
| RE.57
Well, a shame that you missed it, it was a great game. We actually
played well again for the first time since years. Too bad the Belgians
have such a good goalie.
Well, beating Morroco is not impossible, and we should succeed in that.
About the people in 383, those Belgians are just happy that they won,
and they should be, cause even a draw would have been more than they
deserved.
Marcel
P.S. Hoe lang geleden zat je hier in Nederland?
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| 397.61 | Latest odds | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jun 28 1994 15:06 | 48 |
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CURRENT ODDS TO WIN THE WORLD CUP SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP#
(Courtesy American Sports, Manchester, England)
THROUGH MONDAY, JUNE 27th
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*Indicates changes from previous day
Brazil 7/4* Germany 9/2*
Argentina 6/1* Italy 6/1
Belgium 14/1* Netherlands 14/1*
Nigeria 20/1* Romania 20/1*
Spain 25/1* Sweden 25/1*
Ireland 28/1* Mexico 50/1*
Norway 50/1 Switzerland 50/1*
Bulgaria 66/1* United States 80/1*
Bolivia 150/1 Cameroon 150/1*
Russia 150/1* Saudi Arabia 250/1*
South Korea 250/1* Morocco 500/1*
Greece 1000/1* Colombia ELIMINATED
CURRENT ODDS TO REACH THE WORLD CUP SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP
-------------------------------------------------------
Brazil 10/11* Germany 9/4*
Argentina 3/1* Italy 3/1
Belgium 7/1* Netherlands 7/1*
Nigeria 10/1* Romania 10/1*
Spain 12/1* Sweden 12/1*
Ireland 14/1* Mexico 25/1*
Norway 25/1 Switzerland 25/1*
Bulgaria 33/1* United States 40/1*
Saudi Arabia 50/1* Cameroon 80/1*
Russia 80/1* Bolivia 80/1
South Korea 110/1* Morocco 275/1
Greece 550/1* Colombia ELIMINATED
ODDS TO WIN GROUPS
Group E
-------
Italy 6/5*
Norway 5/1*
Ireland 11/4*
Mexico 7/2*
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| 397.62 | second round elimination | BOBSBX::QUINLAN | Mark Quinlan, Alpha Personal Systems | Thu Jun 30 1994 16:04 | 7 |
| Could someone explain the process of team elimination in the second round ?
If the USA and Brazil tie who do they play next ? Any overtime or
shootouts in the second round ? What are the rules for missing games if
players receive red and yellow cards in the second round ?
Thanks,
Mark
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| 397.63 | Only the winners advance!! | LUDWIG::ZAMORA | | Thu Jun 30 1994 16:18 | 12 |
| It's very simple.. the team that looses the game, will watch the world
cup on TV. If a game is tied in regulation, there will be 2-15 minutes
overtime periods.. if still tied, they go to 5 penalty shots per team,
alternating between shots. Yellow card do not carry over, but I think
red cards still give a 2 game suspention.. (i'm not too sure about
the last one..)
Hope I helped............../PZ
A_Colombian_who_was_let_down_by_a_team_that_all_of_us_know_plays_10_times_
better_than_they_did_in_their_first_two_games. :( :(
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| 397.64 | Second round rules... | SWETSC::MELKE | Mats Melke, Stockholm | Thu Jun 30 1994 16:33 | 27 |
| re .62
No ties are allowed in the second round. If there is a tie after 2*45
minutes, there will be 2*15 minutes overtime. If it is still a tie
after that, there will be penalty shootout. The referee wants 5 names
from each team that will do the penalties. These players will have to
be in the middle circle while the shootout is taking place, so that
no substitutions of the players can take place during the shootout.
If there is still a tie after 5 penalties for each team, then their
will be one penalty each for the teams until one team outscores the
other. It is not allowed for a player to do more than one of the
penalties until all the players that played the last minute of the
game has done one penalty each, including the goalie.
Note also that sudden death is not used during overtime. The teams will
play 2*15 minutes even if there is a score.
Good luck against Brazil, I'm sure it's going to be a very entertaining
game. The key thing for the USA is probably to stop Dunga and Silva
from reaching Rai and Zinho in midfield passing. Also, Jorginho and
Leonardo, the left- and rightwing defenders like to move high up in the
field. When they do, you need to steal the ball and shoot a long pass
along the sideline to quick Stewart and Wynalda. Up runs Lalas and puts
a header in the net. Easy huh? ;-)
/Mats
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| 397.65 | Oops | SWETSC::MELKE | Mats Melke, Stockholm | Thu Jun 30 1994 16:35 | 5 |
| Re .63
Oops, I didn't notice that note .62's question already was answered.
/Mats
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| 397.66 | second round - ready !! | HGOCS::SIMONLAU | | Fri Jul 01 1994 08:16 | 20 |
| Maradona is out ! What's the latest odds of Argentina, anyway ?
The opponents of each in the 2nd round:
Nigeria Netherland
Italy Ireland
Switzerland Brazil
Spain USA
Mexico Sweden
Bulgaria Saudi Arabia
Germany Romania
Belgium Argentina
The game has just begun !!
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| 397.67 | No more bugs. | SUBURB::FIXEDASSETS | Derek Roodenberg, Dutch at heart | Fri Jul 01 1994 18:07 | 6 |
| re .9
An error free copy is now available. A places are correct and all
that's needed is entering the scores.
derek
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| 397.68 | | BOBSBX::QUINLAN | Mark Quinlan, Alpha Personal Systems | Thu Jul 14 1994 23:28 | 5 |
| One of the commentators for yesterday's WC games mentioned that FIFA will
intitute sudden-death overtime periods by the next Cup. Any rule change
which avoids the shootout and defensive play seems positive to me.
Mark
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| 397.69 | And Germany have scored in the 856th minute ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Fri Jul 15 1994 02:14 | 4 |
|
But is there a time limit for these sudden death extra-times or do
they just go on ... and on ... and on ... probably until one team
collapses ... maybe that's what the 'sudden death' means !
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| 397.70 | Prolonged death more like... | PAKORA::DROONEY | Lifes a beach | Fri Jul 15 1994 09:18 | 12 |
|
Here we go again,talk of yet another rule change.
Personally I think penalty shoot outs are very exciting and require
skill as well as nerve.
FIFA are changing rules too frequently for my liking,football has
been around a long time,why try and fix something that`s not
broken?
By the way,I feel football has benefitted from the pass back rule.
Davie
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