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343.1 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Sat Jan 22 1994 15:43 | 7 |
| Group contains
Turkey
Iceland
Hungary
Switzerland
Sweden
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343.2 | I say ... | HBFDT2::SCHARNBERG | Wish on Space Hardware | Mon Jan 24 1994 09:55 | 13 |
| Pred:
1. Switzerland
2. Sweden
3. Turkey
4. Hungary
5. Iceland
Someday the turkish national team will come up to the success of their
club teams.
Iceland - Turkey = Nice couple :-)
Heiko
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343.3 | | OTOOA::ESKICIOGLU | go crazy or go peacefully | Mon Jan 24 1994 16:46 | 8 |
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> Someday the turkish national team will come up to the success of their
> club teams.
I can only wish, which is really not asking much ;-)
Lale
(Turkish Delight)
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343.4 | Has it started yet? | SNOC01::PAUKAGABOR | | Fri Sep 02 1994 02:03 | 8 |
| When do the qualifying games start and what is the draw?
Hungary should surely start coming back from the rubbish they were in
the WC qualifiers. I predict they'll either win this group or come
last.
Gabor
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343.5 | Swiss win | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Thu Oct 13 1994 10:28 | 23 |
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Bern Wednesday
Switzerland 4 (2 swiss players, an own goal and a Turk)
Sweden 2 (K Andersson, Dahlin)
Sweden should have wrapped this one up in the first half when we were
in the lead and Dahlin missed at least three clear opportunities. In
the second half Switzerland were clearly on top and in the end it was a
fair result.
Great game for the neutral. Unfortunately I'm not. Congratulations
Switzerland.
Next time Sweden v Hungary mid November. A win is a must.
cheers,
Stefan
PS Turkey beat Iceland 5-0 in the other game
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343.6 | I wish the Sun would help ending Ravelli's career | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Wed Nov 16 1994 10:18 | 15 |
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Tonight Sweden take on Hungary at R�sunda.
Tommy Svensson has announced a line-up that is best described as 4-2-4.
Genius or Hybris? We'll see. Still, with Ljung and Ingesson injured
they are our best 11 available (or should I say our best 10 plus a
village fool impersonating a goal-keeper)
Ravelli
Nilsson Bj�rklund P. Anderssson K�mark
Thern Schwarz
Brolin K. Andersson Dahlin H. Larsson
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343.7 | Looks good | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Teenage Kicks indeed | Wed Nov 16 1994 11:06 | 10 |
| Well, won't you consider Brolin to be an attacking midfielder? I noticed he
was a good tackler too.
Anyway, very nice line-up indeed. You guys have a good team for at
least 2 years. They've been playing together for a long time and have
shared successes = they believe in themselves.
Good luck, I like your style -
/JF
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343.8 | Heja Sverige | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Wed Nov 16 1994 12:11 | 19 |
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> Well, won't you consider Brolin to be an attacking midfielder? I noticed he
> was a good tackler too.
I guess you're right. The difference this time really is that the
defensive minded Ingesson has been replaced with Henrik Larsson, who is
essentially a forward. It will be interesting to see whether Thern and
Schwarz can hold together the team with so much force going forward. I
think it's possible.
Pointless statistic: Sweden have never lost a game in which both
Schwarz and Thern have played the full 90 minutes in mid-field
together.
> Good luck, I like your style -
Thanks, I've got a spare ticket BTW. There's still time for you to hop
on the SAS Nice - Stockholm non-stop at 15h10 :-)
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343.9 | Sweden and Suisse win, Brolin badly injured | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Thu Nov 17 1994 08:31 | 15 |
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Results
Sweden 2 (Brolin, Dahlin)
Hungary 0
Switzerland 1
Iceland 0
Serious injury to Brolin as he laid the pass for the second goal (his
leg folded under him, no-one else to blame). He's away for months.
rats,
Stefan
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343.10 | | GENIE::BOLGER | Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes! | Mon Dec 19 1994 15:29 | 3 |
| Played last Wedensday:
Turkey 1 Switzerland 2
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343.11 | Marc Hottiger scores for Switzerland | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Thu Apr 27 1995 12:28 | 26 |
| > <<< Note 343.10 by GENIE::BOLGER "Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes!" >>>
>
> Played last Wedensday:
>
> Turkey 1 Switzerland 2
So, this seems an opportune moment to update this group:
26 April:
Switzerland 1 Turkey 2
Hungary 1 Sweden 0
Switzerland's first home defeat for 3 years, Sweden's second defeat in a row.
Turkey 5 3 1 1 12 6 10
Switzerland 5 3 1 1 10 7 10
Sweden 5 2 0 3 6 7 6
Hungary 4 1 2 1 5 6 5
Iceland 3 0 0 3 0 7 0
Next:
1 June: Sweden v Iceland
11 Jun: Iceland v Hungary
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343.12 | Update | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Mon Jun 12 1995 14:05 | 11 |
| 1 June: Sweden v Iceland 1-1
11 Jun: Iceland v Hungary 2-1 !
Turkey 5 3 1 1 12 6 10
Switzerland 5 3 1 1 10 7 10
Sweden 6 2 1 3 7 8 7
Hungary 5 1 2 2 6 8 5
Iceland 5 1 1 3 3 9 4
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343.13 | | HBFDT1::SCHARNBERG | Senior Kodierwurst | Mon Jun 12 1995 15:54 | 1 |
| Iceland unbeaten for 2 matches in a row,
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343.14 | My little revenge ... ;-) | OSL09::BJARNE | endless loop (n). See LOOP, ENDLESS. | Mon Jul 03 1995 14:25 | 144 |
| >> Iceland unbeaten for 2 matches in a row,
.... and Sweden hasn't won for some time now, have they ?
(At the bottom of this long entry is the current standing & schedule
of this group)
And where are the comments from Stefan Persson ?
OK, I don't want to be nasty, it's only that I have had to read a lot
of crap about the Norwegian team the last few years.
** Even if Norway won their group, qualifying for the World
Championship last year:
Norway 10 7 2 1 25 - 5 16 ( 1)
Netherland 10 6 3 1 29 - 9 15 ( 0)
England 10 5 3 2 26 - 9 13 (-2)
Poland 10 3 2 5 10 - 15 8 (-7)
Turkey 10 3 1 6 11 - 19 7 (-8)
San Marino 10 0 1 9 2 - 46 1 (-14)
Norway and Netherland qualified.
** Even if we are leading our group for the European Championship:
Norway 7 6 1 0 16 - 1 19 ( 2)
Netherlands 7 3 2 2 15 - 5 11 (-2)
Czech Republic 6 3 2 1 13 - 5 11 (-1)
Byelorussia 6 2 1 3 6 - 10 7 (-5)
Luxembourg 7 2 0 5 2 - 18 6 (-6)
Malta 7 0 2 5 2 - 15 2 (-8)
** Stefan's only good point now is that Norway played crap during
the World Championship last year, with the results:
Norway - Mexico 1 - 0
Norway - Italy 0 - 1
Ireland - Norway 0 - 0
All too few goals, totally different from our results during the two
(World and European) qualifications.
And don't misunderstand me, I really like Sweden, have had some wonderful
holidays there, this is just my attempt to try stop the Swedish
rubbish about Norwegian football. We don't have the best players in the
world (except for our girls, who recently became World Champions -
in Sweden), but we have a GREAT trainer and BUNCH of good players that
are really enthustiastic about playing for Norway.
The following is only some examples of the swedish rubbish, and I have
been mostly silent up to this. After Sweden lost two points against
Iceland I just HAD to do something ... sorry, Stefan ;-)
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** **
STKOFF::SPERSSON 20-FEB-1992 15.137 As long as the Norwegians
don't win it's OK
STKOFF::SPERSSON 28-JUL-1994 34.2794 Let Anfield continue buying
norwegian rubbish
STKOFF::SPERSSON 11-FEB-1994 35.1082 *The* skilled Norwegian?
STKOFF::SPERSSON 7-JUN-1993 129.551 Norway still have everything
to prove
.....
-< Egil "Silly" Olsen's new career as cheerleader >-
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Not only does Anabolic Football not require any talent whatsoever.
You also need to be a total idiot to play it.
Watch out for the entire Norwegian World Cup squad to sign for NFL
clubs.
cheers,
Stefan
....
Note 427.0 The World Cup as seen on TV
8 replies
STKOFF::SPERSSON "Pas de probleme" 64 lines
27-JUL-1994 16:14
- BEST MATCH - Holland - Belgium (Preudhomme's game)
- REFEREEING - Apart from a few over-zealous sendings-off, this
World Cup showed that the best Football is played if the rules
(that have been there all along) are actually applied.
- HEROES - Sweden. Still a young side. Look out England -96!
- VILLAINS - Norway. What a load of rubbish!
** **
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Well, Stefan, what is happening to the swedish team ? Having a rest,
waiting for the next World Championship tournament ?
With only two matches left, this looks tough. Hope you can make it,
but you have to beat countries like Iceland ....
Group 3
Hungary, Iceland, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey
94.09.07: Hungary - Turkey 2 - 2
94.09.07: Iceland - Sweden 0 - 1
94.10.12: Turkey - Iceland 5 - 0
94.10.12: Switzerland - Sweden 4 - 2
94.11.16: Switzerland - Iceland 1 - 0
94.11.16: Sweden - Hungary 2 - 0
94.12.14: Turkey - Switzerland 1 - 2
95.03.29: Turkey - Sweden 2 - 1
95.03.29: Hungary - Switzerland 2 - 2
95.04.26: Hungary - Sweden 1 - 0
95.04.26: Switzerland - Turkey 1 - 2
95.06.01: Sweden - Iceland 1 - 1
95.06.11: Iceland - Hungary 2 - 1
Turkey 5 3 1 1 12 - 6 10 (-1)
Switzerland 5 3 1 1 10 - 7 10 (-1)
Sweden 6 2 1 3 7 - 8 7 (-3)
Hungary 5 1 2 2 6 - 8 5 (-4)
Iceland 5 1 1 3 3 - 9 4 (-4)
95.08.16: Iceland - Switzerland
95.09.06: Turkey - Hungary
95.09.06: Sweden - Switzerland
95.10.11: Iceland - Turkey
95.10.11: Switzerland - Hungary
95.11.11: Hungary - Iceland
95.11.15: Sweden - Turkey
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Bjarne Mehl
SI Norway
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343.15 | I regret nothing | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Mon Jul 03 1995 18:23 | 36 |
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OK, let's be serious for a while:
Sweden are suffering from the expected hang-over after a successful
tournament. It happens to everybody (like Denmark post-92), and we
would have wished it to not last so long, but there's not a lot we can
do about it.
The reason why I started picking on Norway was that they were
*extremely* hyped-up after beating the mighty England in the WC
qualifiers. I was pointing out a few aspects (in my own little way) on
how to put that particular feat in perspective. The actual World Cup
showed that Norway were no way near as good as they thought. Not only
were the results poor, the quality of the Football played was mercilessly
slagged by everybody (not least in this conference, and by others than
me)
As for recent events, it now looks like a good possibility that Norway
will qualify again, but until then, do you really expect anybody to get
impressed by you beating Luxembourg? As far as I can remember, you
have only played the minnows of the group (+ Holland at home, a boring
draw). Congratulations for beating the minnows, the structure of
European qualifiers nowadays requires that you win those games, and it
seems that Norway have done that well. The fact that Holland and the
Czechs (and we) have screwed up doesn't make Norway any better, though.
Unfortunately my work situation prevents me from contributing to (or
reading) Football notes nowadays, therefore I shall refrain from
any more comment on the matter until there are new facts to consider,
like Norway beating any qualified opposition away from home. That should
take a few years.
cheers,
Stefan
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343.16 | But we have some VERY good results away from home ! | OSL09::BJARNE | endless loop (n). See LOOP, ENDLESS. | Tue Jul 04 1995 14:02 | 28 |
| >> I shall refrain from any more comment on the matter until there are
>> new facts to consider, like Norway beating any qualified opposition
>> away from home. That should take a few years.
Beating Poland 3 - 0 in Poland may be a fact to consider ?
his is results for Norway the last few years (all the matches outside
Norway)
92.10.07: San Marino - Norway 0 - 2
92.10.14: England - Norway 1 - 1
93.06.09: Netherland - Norway 0 - 0
93.10.13: Poland - Norway 0 - 3
93.11.10: Turkey - Norway 2 - 1
94.11.16: Byelorussia - Norway 0 - 4
94.12.14: Malta - Norway 0 - 1
95.03.29: Luxembourg - Norway 0 - 2
Some results from the last month may show that the gap between
the countries is getting closer. So as you say, there is not as
easy to beat the weaker teams at home as it was before:
95.06.01: Sweden - Iceland 1 - 1
95.06.03: Liechtenstein - Ireland 0 - 0
95.06.07: Byelorussia - Netherlands 1 - 0
95.06.07: Luxembourg - Czech Republic 1 - 0
95.06.11: Iceland - Hungary 2 - 1
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343.17 | Final Table | TDCIS3::M_HOTLINE | Moon Monkey | Thu Nov 16 1995 10:18 | 17 |
| Sweden 2 - 2 Turkey
Final Table
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P W D L F A Pts
Switzerland 8 5 2 1 15 7 17
Turkey 8 4 3 1 16 8 15
Sweden 8 2 3 3 9 10 9
Hungary 8 2 2 4 7 13 8
Iceland 8 1 2 5 3 12 5
Gary
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