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290.1 | Latest from Downunder | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Tue Mar 09 1993 00:10 | 20 |
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2nd Round of group games
Group A
Australia 3 Russia 1
Colombia 3 Cameroon 2
Table
P W D L F A Pts
Australia 2 2 0 0 5 - 2 4
Colombia 2 1 0 1 4 - 4 2
Russia 2 1 0 1 3 - 3 2
Cameroon 2 0 0 2 2 - 5 0
Highlights :
England play USA tonight. Russia down to 12 players (including 2
goalkeepers). Referees slow down yellow card count.
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290.3 | do you have the results for Uruguay? | STOOA::ACOSTA | | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:59 | 5 |
| Do you have the results for the games played by Uruguay, and the
schedule for future Matches involving Uruguay?. Thanks
Carlos
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290.4 | Update 10/3/93 | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Tue Mar 09 1993 23:13 | 36 |
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Yesterdays results
Group B Group C
Uruguay 2 Portugal 1 England 1 U.S.A. 0
Ghana 2 Germany 2 Turkey 1 S. Korea 1
P W D L F - A Pts P W D L F - A Pts
Germany 2 1 1 0 3 - 2 3 England 2 1 1 0 2 - 1 3
Uruguay 2 1 1 0 3 - 2 3 U.S.A. 2 1 0 1 6 - 1 2
Ghana 2 0 2 0 3 - 3 2 S. Korea 2 0 2 0 2 - 2 2
Portugal 2 0 0 2 1 - 3 0 Turkey 2 0 1 1 1 - 7 1
Group D
Brazil 2 Mexico 1
Norway 0 Saudi Arabia 0
P W D L F - A Pts
Brazil 2 1 1 0 2 - 1 3
Mexico 2 1 0 1 4 - 2 2
Saudi Arabia 2 0 2 0 0 - 0 2
Norway 2 0 1 1 0 - 3 1
Last of the three group games are tomorrow (Thursday). Top two
qualify for knockout phase.
Highlights :
World champions for the last 2 tournaments, Portugal, are out.
European champions Turkey are also out unless they beat England
at least 4-0.
Much improved performance by England, only the American goalkeeper
prevents a larger victory.
Ghana unlucky against Germany having led 1-0 and 2-1.
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290.5 | Bit more on Uruguay | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Wed Mar 10 1993 05:51 | 13 |
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re: .3
Uruguay won their second game against Portugal 2-1 with a 90th
minute goal. They led 1-0 in the 9th minute, were pulled back to
1-1 mid-way through the 1st half and then a bad mistake by the
Portugese defence in the 90th minute for the second game running
led to the late winner.
Uruguay now play Germany in their final game. If that is a draw
then both countries will have identical points, goal difference
and goals scored and conceded. I don't know what will be used to
'tie-break' them (toss a coin ?).
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290.6 | Update 12/3/93 | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Thu Mar 11 1993 23:07 | 35 |
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Final round of group games
Group A Group B
Cameroon 2 Australia 0 Ghana 2 Portugal 0
Russia 3 Colombia 1 Uruguay 2 Germany 1
P W D L F - A Pts P W D L F - A Pts
Russia 3 2 0 1 6 - 4 4 Uruguay 3 2 1 0 5 - 3 5
Australia 3 2 0 1 5 - 4 4 Ghana 3 1 2 0 5 - 3 4
Cameroon 3 1 0 2 4 - 5 2 Germany 3 1 1 1 4 - 4 3
Colombia 3 1 0 2 5 - 7 2 Portugal 3 0 0 3 1 - 5 0
Group C Group D
England 1 Turkey 0 Brazil 2 Norway 0
U.S.A. 2 S. Korea 2 Mexico 2 Saudi Arabia 1
P W D L F - A Pts P W D L F - A Pts
England 3 2 1 0 3 - 1 5 Brazil 3 2 1 0 4 - 1 5
U.S.A. 3 2 0 1 8 - 3 4 Mexico 3 2 0 1 6 - 3 4
S. Korea 3 0 3 0 4 - 4 3 S. Arabia 3 0 2 1 1 - 2 2
Turkey 3 0 1 2 1 - 8 1 Norway 3 0 1 2 0 - 5 1
Highlights :
Barmby dropped by England. Turkey miss 90th minute penalty.
Lots more yellow and red cards for stupid offences (one for taking
a free kick too early, one for taking it too late, one for stamping
his foot when a free kick was awarded against him !).
Brazil by far the best team so far, followed by Uruguay and Ghana.
USA get through thanks to more superb saves by Cassa their
goalkeeper. He'll have to play the game of his life against Brazil.
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290.7 | Next games | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Thu Mar 11 1993 23:09 | 8 |
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Quarter - Finals
Saturday Uruguay vs Australia
Ghana vs Russia
Sunday England vs Mexico
Brazil vs U.S.A.
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290.8 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Fri Mar 12 1993 08:24 | 6 |
| Re- Barmby dropped by England..
I believe Nick Barmby is caryying a knee injury, and hasnt been
dropped.
Dave...
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290.9 | Quarter-Final results | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Sun Mar 14 1993 22:56 | 25 |
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Quarter-Final Results
Saturday Uruguay 1 Australia 2 (after 10 mins
extra-time)
Ghana 3 Russia 0
Sunday England 0 Mexico 0 (after 30 mins
extra-time.
England win 4-3
on penalties)
Brazil 3 U.S.A. 0
Highlights :
New rule on extra-time came into play for this competition. From
now on it's sudden death extra time (i.e. next goal the winner !).
If after 30 mins there is no goal then it's on to penalties.
Ghana and Brazil won very easily. England started with Barmby but
he was injured again. England missed a few easy chances in the last
2-3 minutes of extra-time. Mexico hit the bar with first penalty,
next 7 were all scored and then Watson the England keeper saved
Mexico's last. This England team were not taught penalty taking by
Chris Waddle !!!
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290.10 | Next games | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Sun Mar 14 1993 22:57 | 7 |
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Semi - Finals
Wednesday Brazil vs Australia
Ghana vs England
Firt game in Melbourne, second in Sydney.
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290.11 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | And a hundred lonely housewives... | Mon Mar 15 1993 10:33 | 7 |
| I saw the Mexican penalty miss last night on TV. The English
goalkeeper went mad celebrating and there appeared to be quite
a bit of support for England. How have the attendances been so
far and has Australian TV given the finals much exposure (given
that home interest is still represented, I'd imagine so)?
barry.
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290.12 | High profile tournament over here | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Tue Mar 16 1993 23:03 | 23 |
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Apparently the attendences are much better than the last time
Australia staged this tournament (1981) and better then the
Australian Soccer Fedaration guaranteed to FIFA (they guaranteed
an aggregate of 300,000).
SBS has blanket coverage (8 hours+ a day !) and ABC are broadcasting
highlights. Now Australia are in the semis the other 3 commercial
channels have jumped on the bandwagon and it's the lead story in
the sports news (even above losing the cricket to New Zealand ;-) )
Tonights semi in Melbourne between Australia and Brazil is sold out,
the first time that's ever happened to a 'soccer' game in Victoria.
The twin objectives for this tournament were to impress all the IOC
delegates here at the moment for Sydney's 2000 Olympics bid (over 20%
of voting delegates are here at the moment), and to push FIFA to
upgrade Australia's status for World Cup qualifiers. So far both
objectives seem to have been achieved.
On the injury front, England will be without Barmby and Myers for
their semi-final with Ghana. These are the two best players in the
England squad.
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290.13 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | And a hundred lonely housewives... | Wed Mar 17 1993 09:52 | 8 |
| I read yesterday that England had been playing a rather uninspiring
defensive game throughout the tournament and would have their work
cut out to beat the silky skills of the Ghanians. Shades of Italy 90
and the senior team's run up to the match against Cameroon. I guess
this match is being played as we speak? It must be roughly 7:00pm
Eastern time in Oz.
barry.
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290.14 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | THE END OF SILENCE | Wed Mar 17 1993 09:55 | 6 |
| It kicks off 10.30 our time.
Gary
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290.15 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Wed Mar 17 1993 10:27 | 14 |
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RE.13
I have read the same thing. Its not suprising as it is well known that
the FA coach's preach the "long ball" style of Football. Just think if
England do win we will get all those muppets in the FA going on about
the future of the English game and how it's now finally been proved
that the long ball is the way foward.
England have scored TWO goals in the tournement so far........???
Dave...
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290.16 | LATEST | SUBURB::WAITEG | THE END OF SILENCE | Wed Mar 17 1993 11:44 | 6 |
| Half-Time
England 0 Ghana 2
Not looking too good.
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290.17 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | THE END OF SILENCE | Wed Mar 17 1993 11:58 | 5 |
| Second half latest
England 1 Ghana 2
A penalty.
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290.18 | | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Wed Mar 17 1993 12:16 | 1 |
| Brazil 2 Australia 0 in the other game
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290.19 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | THE END OF SILENCE | Wed Mar 17 1993 12:34 | 5 |
| FINAL SCORE
England 1 Ghana 2
*England are out*
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290.20 | | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Man with somewhere to go | Wed Mar 17 1993 14:08 | 6 |
| >> *England are out*
Good! - they were crap anyway. Ghana deserve to go through to the
final.
I hope Taylor was taking note - though I doubt it.
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290.21 | | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Wed Mar 17 1993 16:10 | 8 |
| Re. a few back "the silky skills of Ghana". I don't know if it was intended as a
joke but you surely know Ghana has a reservoir of young players who already
play in Europe, such as Nili Lamptey, 17, in Anderlecht (Brussels). Ghana is the
country which gave Pel� Abedi to Olympique Marseille.
Unfortunately, they might not make it to the US World Cup.
JF
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290.22 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | | Wed Mar 17 1993 16:34 | 8 |
| No, that was'nt a joke. I think the African nations play football in
the manner it should be played, with the emphasis on skill rather
than athleticism. Cameroon's exhibitions at the last world cup
certainly proved that and they would have found themselves in the
semi final against West Germany had the defence been a little
more disciplined.
barry.
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290.23 | African Prowess | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Wed Mar 17 1993 17:23 | 10 |
| >> <<< Note 290.21 by ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION "Can-tas-tic" >>>
>> Unfortunately, they might not make it to the US World Cup.
According to the commentator on [English] Radio 5 today, they've
[Ghana] already been eliminated from the '94 finals by Algeria....
....but he tip tip them to do VERY well in '98 and beyond
Rob
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290.24 | 21st Century football beats 19th Century | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Wed Mar 17 1993 23:06 | 29 |
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I watched both Semi-Finals live last night. Brazil easily beat
Australia, controlling the whole game so that Australia did not
make the Brazilian keeper make one save.
Ghana totally outclassed England for the first 30 minutes to lead
2-0 with a unlucky (for England) penalty and a dubious free kick
just outside the penalty area. After 30 minutes it looked like
England were going to lose 5 or 6-0. Ghana was playing with England
stringing 15-20 passes around and just keeping possession.
England then started to play and at least got to touch the ball a few
times up until half-time. The second-half was vastly different with
England the better side, getting a penalty just a few minutes into
the half and then creating several chances after that, including
hitting the bar with a volley when unmarked 6 yards out. Ghana still
had chances on the break and when they did attack they had 6 or 7
players attacking not just one or two.
Overall the best two teams in the tournament have reached the final.
England did well to get so far considering the usual lack of
preparation for this tournament. Teams like Mexico and South Korea
played 60 games in the past couple of years in preparation for this
tournament. Australia and Brazil played each other 6 times since
October in preperation for last night. England played 12 games in
total (and that includes all the qualifying games for the finals).
Two years ago Ghana beat Brazil to win the Under 17 world title. It's
essentially the same teams who meet again on Saturday.
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290.25 | Last games | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Wed Mar 17 1993 23:08 | 15 |
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Games on Saturday
3rd/4th place playoff
Australia vs England
Final
Brazil vs Ghana
Brazil have won this tournament twice (83 & 85). They haven't 'lost'
a game since 1989 (In 91 they lost on penalties to Portugal in the
Final). England and Australia have never finished as high as 3rd.
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290.26 | 'Scuse me but...? | VARESE::NOLANG | | Thu Mar 18 1993 11:16 | 23 |
| Re .24:
"Two years ago Ghana beat Brazil to win the Under 17 world title. It's
essentially the same teams who meet again on Saturday."
I was under the impression that Ghana beat the (then) European champions,
Spain, in the final of the u-17 World Championship here in Italy...
The same title-winning side then reassembled with the addition of Abedi Pele's
brother Ayew to take a very creditible bronze medal home from the Barcelona
olympics last year, where this time they went out to a very classy Spanish
side composed entirely of fully-professional, first-team, first-division
players. It was no surprise to anyone that such a side should go on to win
the gold, especially in view of the fact that they had home advantage...
More to the point perhaps, what are the chances of getting hold of a video of
the final, given that as result of Italy's twisted logic (their team did not
qualify, therefore the tournament is not good enough to be shown here) I will
not be able to see the match.
Yours (absurdly?) hopefully...
Geoff
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290.27 | | PEKING::JOLLYL | Viva la rock .... the killer lives on | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:33 | 2 |
| The Australia v England game is being shown (LIVE??) on Sky Saturday
09:00.
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290.28 | Live or not live ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Thu Mar 18 1993 23:09 | 18 |
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> The Australia v England game is being shown (LIVE??) on Sky Saturday
> 09:00.
Unless the UK puts their clocks 3 hours forward it isn't live !
England vs Australia is 4:00 or 4:30 pm kick-off here which is
6:00 am or 6:30 am over there. The Final starts at 7:00 or 7:30
which would be 9:00 or 9:30.
re: a few back about the U 17 Final in 1991
Ghana beat Brazil in the semi-final not the final. The reference
I heard was Ghana beat Brazil 'on their way to winning' the 1991
title.
Anyway in Under 20 terms Brazil are ranked No. 1 in the world. I
don't know what Ghana are ranked, but Australia are No. 9 and
England No. 19.
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290.29 | Final results | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Mar 22 1993 02:44 | 49 |
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Results on Saturday
3rd/4th place playoff
England 2 Australia 1
Final
Brazil 2 Ghana 1
Highlights :
Good performance by England against a disappointing Australia.
England dominated the 1st half and led 1-0 thanks to a headed
goal by Unsworth (Everton). Australia came back in the 2nd half
and equalised with a deflected own goal. Then with 5 mins to go
a great solo goal by Joachim (Leicester) won it for England.
Best England player in the tournament was Bart-Williams (Sheff
Wed).
Final was a class above the earlier game. Brazil dominated first
10 mins but Ghana then broke away and scored with their first
real chance. Very fast and skillful from then until half-time.
5 mins into 2nd half Brazil equalised and they had the better of
the second half. Then with just 15 seconds of normal time left
Brazil had a break from defence and scored. Both Brazil goals
were set up by Adriano who I think we'll see in US in '94.
Attendence for these games was a sell out 40,000.
Overall this tournament was vastly more entertaining than Sweden 92
or Italia 90 and less cynical (perhaps the players develop that trait
when they get a little older). Some of FIFA's new instructions to
referees worked, like getting the game to run faster and ignoring
players thrashing around on the ground pretending they were injured.
If they were truly injured they usually managed to crawl/hobble off
the pitch to receive treatment. If they weren't they usually made
'miraculous' recoveries when the ball came near them again.
Also bookings picked up in the group games were not counted in the
knockout stage. If this had happened in 1990 Cameroon would have faced
England with a full strength team, and Gascoigne wouldn't have been
crying against West Germany in the semi-final. From this tournament
I reckon Africa will have a team in the World Cup Semi-Finals by
1998 at the latest.
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