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Conference trucks::football;1

Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

282.0. "Scottish grandad's now OK!" by WARNUT::TPCASE::PICKERINGS (Simon Pickering) Wed Jan 13 1993 13:11

According to yesterday's Grauniad, the Scottish FA are to allow a player to 
represent Scotland on the basis of his grandparents birthplace. This puts the
SFA inline with the Irish, and breaks an agreement with the other home countries
not to do so.

Are Scotland that short of good players?
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282.1YES !AYOV17::LHENDERSONWed Jan 13 1993 15:461
    
282.2KIRKTN::CPATRICKI'm Dafter Than A Daft FactoryWed Jan 13 1993 15:596
    I would'nt say Scotland are too short of good players
    after all English clubs are always after them,but what I would say is
    that some of Roxy's choices are a lot to be desired.
    
    
    SQF Jambo
282.3Super Brian, Super Brian, Away, Away, AwayPAKORA::SWRIGHTWed Jan 13 1993 16:1812
    I think Scotland have only 1 outstanding player and that is the Great
    Brian McLair, He does such a lot for Scotland and I think its the 
    rest of the team that let us down. Wasn't his Grandfather Born in
    Bo'ness...?

    

    P.S  I think I should point out that Im being admitted to a 
         Mental Institution next week.
    
    
                                                 Napoleon.
282.4Just Eire I thinkAIMTEC::WICKS_AA year behind in more ways than oneWed Jan 13 1993 17:317
    I think Simon means in line with Eire since Northern Ireland don't use
    this rule though the Guardian Weekly did mention that N.I and Wales
    were consdering this too.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
282.5The granny ruleGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Wed Jan 13 1993 20:5032
    
    Northern Ireland now use the granny rule.  The turning point was
    probably Alan Kernaghan but they'll never admit it.
    
    Alan Kernaghan was born in England but went back to Bangor as a kid.  His
    parents were English but their parents were Irish.  He grew up in
    Bangor but didn't qualify for NI because he was born in England.  He
    qualifies for Ireland only because his grandparents were born on the
    island of Ireland and thus are entitled to Irish citizenship.  He would
    have no natural link with the Republic of Ireland.
    
    In this case Jack Charlton exploited the rule and I do think he was
    taking it too far.  Still we have got a very talented central defender.
    Believe it or not almost all the Irish team are Irish or have Irish
    parents.  John Aldridge qualifies under the granny rule but I beleiev
    player slike Andy Townsend and Tony Cantscorino qualify under the
    parentage rule.
    
    There is still a general hands off agreement between the FAI and IFA. 
    All the NI squad qualify for the Republic and all the Republic squad
    could play for any of the home countries.  Any citizen of the Republic
    of Ireland who was born before 1949 or whose parents were born before
    1949 is entitled to a British passport.  Thus they could play for
    England or Northern Ireland.  Now any person born in Northern Ireland
    is entitled to an Irish passport and they could play for the Republic.
    Some Roman Catholics feel alienated form the Northern Ireland state and
    could in theory play for the Republic.  However the unwritten agreement
    is applied here.  It does mean that the NI team is non sectarian and
    players are picked on ability.  The FAI only accepted Alan Kernaghan
    when NI turned him down.
    
    Gary.  
282.6RUM RUM RUMREOSV1::ONEILLSMon Apr 26 1993 19:061
Where was John Barnes's granny from?  Or Tony Dorigo?  
282.7As English as bananas!PAKORA::AGRAYVE HAF VAYS OF MAKING YOU VOP!!Tue Apr 27 1993 09:136
282.8ECCGY4::HAIGHDyslexia comes in a glassTue Apr 27 1993 09:175
    
    	If you walked around Manchester, Bradford, Brum or parts of London
    I think you would find that they DO look English!
    
    	Now Graham Hick ....
282.9Canadian glass housesREOSV1::ONEILLSTue Apr 27 1993 10:332
I believe the English ice hockey teanm just made the world top twelve with over
 10 Canadians in the squad.
282.10CHEFS::HOUSEBTue Apr 27 1993 14:582
    Seeing as we have strayed from football how about the UK's Canadian
    heavyweight boxer Lennox Lewis.