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Conference trucks::football;1

Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

216.0. "Football in the Olympics 1992" by GOTA1::APPELQVIST (If it don't stink, don't stir) Mon May 18 1992 15:56

    The draw for this summers olympic football tournament was mad
    yesterday. It looks like this;
    
    Group A	   Group B	   Group C	     Group D
    
    Italy	   Spain	   Sweden	     Denmark
    USA		   Colombia	   Paraguay	     Ghana
    Poland	   Egypt	   Morocco	     Mexico/Honduras
    Quweit (sp?    Qatar	   South-Korea       Australia/Holland
    
    Holland still got the chance. They played 1-1 against Australia away,
    second leg in Utrech may 24th.
    
    Mats
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216.1#15 clearGOTA1::APPELQVISTIf it don't stink, don't stirWed May 20 1992 15:088
    
    Mexico  -  Honduras     5 - 1
    
    This means that Mexico is clear for Barcelona. USA lost their last game
    in the qualification against Canada 1-2, but was already clear for the
    tournament.
    
    Mats
216.2It's over for HollandUTROP1::JANSENanother girl another planetMon May 25 1992 09:039

Yesterday Holland played the second leg against the Aussie and drawed
2 - 2, wich means Australia will go to Barcelona leaving the Dutch empty handed.


T_

ps I was at the game and the Aussies deserved it!!
216.3exitVMSSG::FUERTESThu Jul 23 1992 22:1181
    I have the following soccer schedule for the olympics, can any one
    supply the times.  I am really interested what time Spain vs Colombia
    will be playing tomorrow.
    
    Carlos
    
    
   Here's the '92 Olympic Soccer Schedule:
 
 
        Group A                  Group B 
        -------                  ------- 
 
 24Jul  Italy v U.S.             Spain v Colombia 
        Poland v Kuwait          Egypt v Qatar 
 
 27Jul  Italy v Poland           Spain v Egypt 
        U.S. v Kuwait            Colombia v Qatar 
 
 29Jul  Italy vs Kuwait          Colombia v Egypt 
        U.S. v Poland            Spain v Qatar 
 
 
 
        Group C                  Group D
        -------                  -------
 
 26Jul  Sweden v Paraguay        Denmark v Mexico 
        Morocco v South Korea    Ghana v Australia
 
 28Jul  Sweden v Morocco         Denmark v Ghana 
        Paraguary v South Korea  Mexico v Australia
 
 30Jul  Paraguay v Morocco       Denmark v Australia
        Sweden v South Korea     Mexico v Ghana 
 
 
        Quarterfinals 
        -------------
 
  1Aug  Game 1/1st Place Group A  vs  2nd Place Group B
        Game 2/2nd Place Group A  vs  1st Place Group B
 
  2Aug  Game 3/1st Place Group C  vs  2nd Place Group D
        Game 4/2nd Place Group C  vs  1st Place Group D
 
 
        Semifinals
        ----------
 
  5Aug  Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 3
        Winner Game 2 vs Winner Game 4
 
        
        Bronze Medal Game
        -----------------
 
  7Aug  Semifinal loosers.
 
 
        Gold Medal Game
        ---------------
 
  8Aug  Semifinal winners
 
 
  Barcelona's Nou Camp Stadium (cap: 115,000) will be 
used for the Italy vs
  U.S opener and all Barcelona games after the first 
round.
 
  Barcelona's Sarria Stadium (cap: 41,000) will be used 
for the remaining
  first round games in Barcelona.
 
  The other three stadiums are Valencia's La Romareda 
Stadium (43,554),
  Valencia's Luis Casanova Stadium (49,291) and 
Sabadell's Nova Creu Alta
  Stadium (20,000).
    
216.4incomplete results so farSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeTue Jul 28 1992 10:0026
    
    There seems to be little interest in the ongoing Olympic tournament.
    
    Anyway the standings that I remember offhand so far are:
    
    Group A (after two rounds):
    
    Poland are already through to the �-finals, after beating Italy 3-0.
    Italy and Kuwait (not sure, could be US) fight it out for the second
    place.
    
    Group B (after two rounds):
    
    Spain and Qatar are already through having won their respective matches.
    
    Group C (after one round)
    
    Sweden 0 	Paraguay 0
    Morocco 1	South Korea 1
    
    Group D (after one round)
    
    Denmark 1	Mexico 1
    Ghana v Australia (don't know result)
    
    
216.5EICMFG::HOWEAlice in ordnungTue Jul 28 1992 10:186
    
    From memory (or was it yesterday's VNS)
    
    Ghana 3 Australia 1
    
    Keith.
216.6The best players in the olympics?STKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeTue Jul 28 1992 11:0137
    
    I'd like to bring up a discussion about the significance of the olympic
    tournament.
    
    As most of you know, the olympics don't make a difference between
    professionals and amateurs anymore. Instead, the competition is open
    for Under-23s only. This has been enforced by FIFA in order to keep the
    World Cup as *the* greatest football tournament. 
    
    While this is a perfect competition for the countries to expose their
    youth teams, it has not gone down too well with either the crowds or
    the IOC. The attendances so far have been very disappointing compared
    to the other team sports. Although admittedly I have only seen one game
    myself (Sweden v Paraguay, a terrible bore draw), the quality of the
    Football seems below par too. Now the IOC president Samaranch has
    threatened to throw out Football from the olympic agenda unless FIFA 
    allows the best players to compete.
    
    What about it folks? Would you like to see Gullit in the next Olympics?
    I must confess I find it a very tempting thought. It would in effect
    mean that the World Cup takes place every other year. It would also mean
    that the sport itself gets more focus in the un-enlightened parts of
    the world.
    
    There are some obvious problems to be solved: 
    
    - The various continental championships (Europe, South America etc) and
    their qualifying games occupy most or all of the available time between
    the World Cup and the Olympics. This is a major issue.
    
    - The UK's (or Great Britain or whatever they wish to call themselves)
    divine right to field 4 different national sides is not compatible with
    the olympic order. This is a minor issue.
    
    What do you think?
    
    	Stefan
216.7Bad ref'sVMSSG::FUERTESTue Jul 28 1992 17:0216
    I saw the game of Spain vs Colombia and one major problem that I saw
    was the refereeing.  I am not sure about the other games but this
    particular ref (a German I believe) was the worst ref I have ever seen
    in my life.  Everytime any one slide tackles it was an automatic foul
    (unless the olympics rules say that slide takle is a foul).  This ref
    gave so many yellow cards, that my friends and I started laughing
    because we were able to predict when he was about to give one.  He also
    gave out red cards (2 for each team).  Any player that could semi-act
    when getting touched could draw a yellow card for the opponent. Spain
    won the game (deserved it, they were the better team) but the flow of
    the game was totally destroyed by this particular ref.
    
    Refereeing must improve in these olympics if soccer is to survive.
    
    Carlos
                              
216.8Brolin, Brolin, Brolin-Brolin-BrolinSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeWed Jul 29 1992 09:0419
    
    Results from yesterday's 2nd round games:
    
    Group C
    
    Sweden 	4	(Brolin 2, Mild, R�dlund)
    Morocco     0
    
    South Korea 0
    Paraguay	0
    
    (Sweden 3 pts, South Korea and Paraguay 2, Morocco 1)
    
    Group D
    
    Denmark	0
    Ghana	0
    
    Australia vs Mexico (don't know)
216.9missing resultGIDDAY::PARSONSLeeds United. Champions 91-92Wed Jul 29 1992 09:053
    
    Australia   1
    Mexico      1
216.10Football out!FORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOThu Jul 30 1992 15:4811
Stefan,

If you're counting votes, I'd vote for dropping football from the Olympics. As 
you said, it's just an artificial competition as they can't have the best 
players. And please spare us the 'World Cup' every two years! It'll devalue the 
worth of both competitions if they're played so often.

The Olympics is too big, everyone says - football could start the move in the 
right direction.

grahame
216.11Pool A&B resultsVMSSG::FUERTESThu Jul 30 1992 17:1829
    Here are yesterdays result:
    
    Pool A
    ------
    Italy	1		Poland	2
    Kuwait	0		USA	2
    
    Poland	5pts
    Italy	4
    USA		3
    Kuwait	0
    
    Pool B
    ------
    Spain	2			Egypt	 4
    Qatar	0			Colombia 3
    
    Spain	6pts
    Qatar	3
    Egypt	2
    Colombia	1
    
    
    So the quaterfinal so far are:
    
    Poland	vs	Qatar
    Spain	vs	Italy
    
    
216.12The Fat Pastry Baker's double is OFF!STKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeFri Jul 31 1992 08:4638
    
    More results from the 3rd round
    
    Group C 
    -------
    Sweden 	1	(R�dlund)
    South Korea	1
    
    Paraguay	3
    Morocco	0
    
    Sweden	4 pts		:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 
    Paraguay	4
    South Korea 3
    Morocco 	1
    
    Group D
    -------
    Denmark	0               :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 
    Australia	3
    
    Ghana	1
    Mexico	1
    
    Ghana	4 pts
    Australia	3
    Mexico	3
    Denmark	2               :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
    
    So the four �-finals are
    
    Poland	vs	Qatar
    Spain	vs	Italy
    
    Sweden	vs	Australia
    Ghana	vs	Paraguay
    
    
216.13Compromise expectedSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeFri Jul 31 1992 09:3038
    
    Re .10
    
    Grahame,
    
    Yes I'm counting votes. The overwhelming response so far reveals that
    exactly 50% are in favour with reservations (me), and exactly 50% are
    definitely against (you). Stay tuned as this drama unfolds.
    
    Anyway the UEFA president Lennart Johansson said yesterday he was
    disappointed in the organization and marketing of the current
    tournament. Apart from the Football tournament, the olympics is a huge
    success with the crowds. I don't know who Johansson is trying to fool.
    Maybe he was expecting the Football tournament to draw as large crowds
    as in Los Angeles and Seoul. What he forgot though is that the
    Barcelona crowds get to see top Football every week, and that both
    Barcelona's league teams would stand a fair chance of winning the
    tournament. There is absolutely no reason for Barcelona's Football
    connaiseurs to to gather for this event. Johansson also said that there
    will be no Football tournament in Atlanta if the IOC continues to
    require that the best players participate. He stated that there simply
    is no way to fit it into the schedule, and that FIFA and UEFA have to
    "protect" their own tournaments.  
    
    What it boils down to of course is money. FIFA and UEFA (and the other
    continent's associations) make huge profits from their tournaments, in
    the olympics all the money that is generated is controlled by the IOC.
    
    I expect heavy negotiations between FIFA and the IOC, in which FIFA
    will demand a huge piece of the cake in order to change their rules.
    Eventually this will lead to a compromise where FIFA gets some
    compensation in return for letting in some of the older players (lets
    say the basic format stays the same but 2-3 over-age players are
    allowed)
    
    cheers,
    
    	Stefan
216.14The dream is overSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeMon Aug 03 1992 16:1419
    
    Quarter-finals:
    
    Spain 	1
    Italy 	0
    
    Poland	2
    Quatar	0
    
    Australia	2
    Sweden	1	:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( 
    
    Ghana	4	aet
    Paraguay	2
    
    Semi Finals
    
    Spain	vs Ghana
    Poland	vs Australia
216.15Semi'sSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeThu Aug 06 1992 16:5614
    
    Semi-finals results:
    
        Spain       2
        Ghana	    0
    
    
        Poland	    6
    	Australia   1
    
    
    Final:
    
    Spain vs Poland
216.16Spain Olympic championsSTKOFF::SPERSSONPas de problemeMon Aug 10 1992 14:5115
    
    Final:
    
    Spain	3
    Poland 	2
    
    att: 90,000+
    
    The final was a very good game (judging from the second half, which I
    watched on TV), with Spain getting a last-minute winner just as
    everyone were preparing for extra-time.
    
    Notable attendees: Samaranch and King Juan Carlos. Notable absentees:
    the presidents of FIFA and UEFA, another move in the ongoing prestige
    battle.