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Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

208.0. "The Ground Note." by BAHTAT::BLYTHE (Leeds United. Champions 91-92) Tue May 05 1992 18:10

    There doesn't seem to be one of these :-
    
    The Ground Note.
    
    During the Summer, many famous grounds will be changed out off all
    recognition, generally for the good. The Football Supporter has had to
    put up with CRAP facilities for too long, the Taylor Report has at last
    made the Clubs cough up and improve their stadiums. The loss of
    Terracing will be mourned by some, I hope (with some doubt) that Clubs
    won't take advantage and put prices up.
    
    Leeds United	New East Stand (see 33.late for more details)
    Man Utd		Stretford End all seater
    Man City		Platt lane stand renewal
    Liverpool		New Stand / all seater Kop (next season ?)
    Arse		North Bank replacement
    Villa 		Holte End ?
    
    on the other side of the coin we will have :-
    
    Barnsley		Remains CRAP, hardly any seats, all open terracing
    Newcastle		All talk and no action
    Sunderland		ditto
    
    and many others
    
    There was a good article in the Torygraph on Saturday, I'll see if I
    still have it.
    
    If England and English teams are to do well in Europe, then they need
    to have decent stadiums an offer you and me (the paying punter) decent
    facilities, else the 'turn on the TV and watch it' will become the norm
    and the game will die.
    
    (nb, many of theses comments apply to Scottish teams as well. Rangers
    ground may be well equipped, but Celtic is not, Hampden has a lot of
    open terracing, and Tynecastle is squeezed in to a residential area in
    Edinburgh).
    
    Any comments ?
    
    
    jb.
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208.1BLKPUD::WATTERSONPTue May 05 1992 18:2721
    
    I thought all-seater stadiums were a good idea, until they put seats
    into the St. End at Goodison.
    
    After one season, my thoughts are;
    
    i	It has killed the atmosphere
    
    ii	The terrace wasn't purpose built for seats, so you can't see the
    whole pitch - in the past, there'd be pushing and shoving and a few
    surges, but now all that happens is everyone stands up when they can't
    see the ball.
    
    iii	The seats (in the St. End) are all unreserved, so you have get in
    early if you want to sit with your mates.
    
    iv	Prices WILL go up - this season, it was �7 to sit in the St End,
    next season I believe it's planned to increase it to �10 to make up for
    the reduced capacity.....
    
    Paul
208.2Justice who.WELCLU::BWALKERCome on you Hatters.Wed May 06 1992 16:5212
    Mind you what do you expect from a report written by a chap whom has
    probably never ever attended a game let alone stood for one. 
    
    All because of Hillsborough. With respect would seats on that occaision
    saved lives. I understood that a great deal perished in the tunnell
    leading to the terrace.
    
    I've no wish to open a debate on Hillsborough again. Just my opinion.
    
    Regards,
    
    Barry.
208.3ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLIONGoal of the year for �ric the GualWed May 06 1992 17:081
    Read 208.2
208.4Another Disaster ...BAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United. Champions 91-92Thu May 07 1992 11:0615
208.5Another Disaster ...BAHTAT::BLYTHELeeds United. Champions 91-92Thu May 07 1992 12:1620
      <<< Note 208.4 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Leeds United. Champions 91-92" >>>
                           -< Another Disaster ... >-

    re the last 2 :-
    
    There was a stand collapse in Corsica on Tuesday night, about 20 killed
    and hundreds injured, some seriously. Apparently, it was a temporary
    one, and had been passed by the local safety inspectors. The game was 
    a semi final of the French Cup, between the Corsicans and 
    Marseille. 
    
    The Corsican team played in a small stadium, so to let as many people 
    watch the game as possible temporary stand was built.

    UEFA have now banned all temporary stands from UEFA run games.
    
    At the end of the day, the fans' safety is paramount.  
    
    jb.
208.6FIFA now bans stands (...hand stands & band stands)XSTACY::KMCGRATHLong road, patient donkeyThu May 14 1992 12:459
    FIFA has decided that no temporary stands will be allowed anymore, in 
    view of the Corsica incident. It was crazy in the first place to allow
    an unsafe stand like that be used. I'm not for banning all temporary
    stands, however, just let FIFA put down some very rigid safety rules 
    which must be stuck to.
    
    The temporary seats which were put in on the terraces at Lansdowne road
    are apparantly not considered a temporarty "stand" and are allowed to
    be used.
208.7I WOULD RATHER HAVE A CHOICE ,SIT OR STANDSIOG::DAWSONFri Aug 14 1992 17:5519
    
    I have a temporary seat booked in lansdowne rd for all the home matchs
    for the world cup. I,ve already been to three matchs in these seats
    and i must admit i was a bit nervous the first match ,especially when
    everyone started stamping their feet in unison and the seats started 
    to shake.but they seem solid enough and are reasonably comfortable.
    
    re : a few back on The Gladys st end of Goodison park,It really has
    ruined the atmosphere by putting in seats ,there is nothing like a good
    "jump in the air" when your team scores etc or the closeness of a
    standing crowd at a match.The seats ruin this and as was pointed out
    when a ball goes into the corners ,everyone stands up ,so you have to
    to see anything(i always sit behind the biggest person in the ground 
    anyway).
    
    cheers
    
    Liam