Conference trucks::football;1

    I think its a brilliant idea.

    
    	Does that mean I get another opportunity to kick you up in the
    	air, then, Ant? 8-) 8-) Just remember what happened last time
    	you fell over my leg....
             
    	Andy.

    
    Sounds like a good idea.
    
    JN.

    Just to add a bit to .0 - the aim of the tournament is to meet some 
    fellow noters (So that's what that plonker looks like! :-)), have a few
    beers, play a bit of footie and generally have a good day out.
    
    Please don't enter a team who play 5-aside regularly and have won
    umpteen leagues and cups - the taking part being more important than
    the winning.
    
    If you can't raise a team of Wrexham/Halifax/Derby/etc supporters then
    what about naming a team from where you work.
    
    Dependent upon response we could carry it over into the evening.
    
    Anybody got a good suggestion for a venue?
    
    So what do you think?      
    
    Mike M     

    
    if we have a Liverpool team though, we will have Martin "twinkle-toes"
    Cunniffe on our side, which means that i wont have a chance to kick
    him!
    
    :-)
    
    Ian.
    

But everyone else will!!

It might be an idea to collect individual teams in your own note ie. note 45 
Tottenham.

Ha Ha!!

Antony

    Their no bloody Millwall supporters....  
    
    Any wanna merge

    The Millwall Noters F.C now have a squad of two (inc a goalkeeper). 
    Its looking good for WALL.

    
    Well there is only me in this notes conference now based in Manchester,
    but would willingly join Warrington, if they'd have me??? Either with a
    UTD team or a Northern team.
    
    Just to make clear, sounds like a good idea, putting faces to names,
    and faces to feet.....:))))))))
    
    mac

    The Millwall Noters F.C now have three players, all from Dec Park.
    
    Any further enquires ring me on 7830 2267.

    The Millwall Noters F.C now has four players, all Dec Park (inc a
    Keeper).
    
    Ring me on 7830 2267 if your interested.

    
    Well lets hope Millwall don't reach 25 players - the excitment of
    reading each new note would be too much for me..............
    
    Paul :-)

    Paul
    
    We've now got 5 players thanks to Jeff.  Ring me if poss 7830 2267

    six

    What about Rivermead in Reading.  I find out some prices for yer.

    Any, er, West Ham fans out there wanna play?
    
    Ian

    There's quite a few footy noters in the two CSCs both in Basingstoke
    and Warrington,  - we could probably make up a couple of teams.
    
    
    Paul           

    Im never gonna play for that P.Watterson again after he didnt pick me
    for the last game.
    
    Mo

    If you could plan the event for some weekend early next season, the
    four Green Gooner Noters could combine it with a trip to Highbury.
    Better still, if the Arsenal V Everton fixture falls on a weekend early
    next season, Liam Dawson would probably come with us and make a team of
    five.

    Re .18
    
    As the only Notts County fan in the conference, I ought to side with
    the 'ammers; after all we get promoted and relegated with you all the
    time :-)
    
    Rob

Anyone need a goallie.

I'm no good, but as I can no longer play outfield 'cos of my knee it's the only
way I can join in ( The footy I mean not the beers )

Any takers esp Leeds ( Leeds Leeds) or Reading.

Al

    
    I'll play in goal for a Newcastle select if reqd, as I've just come out of 
    plaster and can't run at the moment.
    
    Tim

    I could be tempted out of retirement to pull on a Arsenal shirt - under
    the condition that we don't use next season's home strip.
    
    PJ

    
    A Newcastle side could be arranged depending on availability which
    depends on possible dates and venue, or if its up in the North there
    shouldn't be a problem with any weekend !!
    
    How about a North area play off and a South area play off then the
    winners to play in a Uk wide tournament ?? This would probably make it
    easier for all noters UK wide to be involved at some stage as a lot
    of people are bound to be put off with having to travel down to
    Reading/London to play !!
    
    Gary..
    
    

    
    
    Me and Vince will be in it from Winnersh, and there's at least another
    4 or 5 out in the repair centre who read notes regular, like.
    
    Greg...

    You Winnersh people aint allowed to pick Micheal Barnes as he's a
    semi-pro. No fair!!
    
    Tony

    Why not enter the annual DEC 5-a-side which takes place in Reading
    annually.  Entries need to be in by May 18 and the tournament is on May
    30th.  The bar is open all day and it is generally all in good fun. 
    Obviously there are normally a couple of good teams in it but you are
    guaranteed 4/5 games in the first round.
    
    		Brian.

I think the thing we were trying to get going was that this was specifically for 
the noters rather than specifically for depts etc in DEC. I think we have quite 
good interest and have plenty of ideas how to run the day, the only problem we 
have really is deciding upon a venue. 

I think the ideal amount ot teams would be 8 or 10 in two leagues with a final 
and 3rd/4th place play off. We would like to play on a Saturday afternoon from 
say 1pm to about 7pm with a few drinks in the evening and Sunday to get over 
the aches and pains before work. Hopefull we will be in a much better position 
to announce some firmer details at the end of the week. We've also talked about 
the fact that people would like to come but might need accomodation so we'll try  
to arrange something about that as well.

Antony

    Wheeell, I'me stil 'ear in Birmingham an' I'me takin' it very seriously
    an' I want to play for the Tottenham Noters as they are the only ones
    who 'no' anythin' 'bout footbawl!
    
    I'me into me serious training now, five Mars bars a day! (al la Gazza).
    
    Yours in sport,
    
    	John

    The first official UK Noters 5-Aside Football Tournament will take
    place on Saturday 13th June at Rivermead Sports Centre Reading,
    starting at 1.00pm and finishing at 7.00pm approx.  There is a canteen
    and licenced bar on the premises plus there is room for spectators and
    there are the usual sports centre type changing facilities.
    
    We are now open for Football Noter team entries.  We currently have
    teams from Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and Millwall.  We need another
    6 teams to make two groups of five, guaranteeing each team at least
    four games.  With a final and 3rd/4th place play-off to finish. 
    Refreshments will then be taken in large quantities at a nearby boozer.
    
    To enter a team will cost 15 pound per team with each squad consisting
    of a maximum of seven players.  Full tournament rules will be posted
    here soon.
    
    Please mail Mike McCabe @HHL with your entry and we will get the show
    on the road.
    
    If you want to play for Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea or Millwall please
    contact the following:
    
    	Tottenham  -  Antony Ferraro 
    	Arsenal - Mike McCabe
    	Chelsea - Lawrence Jolly
    	Millwall - Gary Waite 
    
    Finally, if anyone has got footballs, a pump, bibs, etc or wants to
    ref please contact Antony at UCG.
    
    See you on the 13th!
    
    Mike M

    YYYYYYeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    
    We'll be their.  COME ON WALL

  There is likely to be a late entry from Dulwich Hamlet .

  More news as it comes in...

  Stuart

Of all the day's. the 13th's my wife's Birthday, so I won't be able to play.
:-(

However, Wild Horses wouldn't keep me from at least coming down for a while and
having a drink or 2.

See you on the 13th

Al

    
    I've not got a team as thre are not many of us Forest fans about.
    however, i am interested so if anybody needs an extra can you mail me
    at UPROAR::.
    
    Another thought, I'm an IT Student are there any other IT's who want to
    get a team together???
    
    DavidS.
    

    I've heard a viscious rumor that as Stewo Pano is the only
    self-confessed FE fan (and therefore unable to field even a 5-a-side
    team), he has offered his services to the Gunners team
    for the Tournament of the Year.
    
    
    
    Unfortunately, the thought of Pano desacrating an Arsenal shirt is too
    awful for anyone to take him seriously.
    
    
    
    PJ

I think I can get a FC Utrecht team up, I'll start mailing the guys today
and let you lot know asap.

T_

PS sorry for the late reply but Italy was great fun :-)

T_

    Any more news yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     <<< Note 203.38 by SUBURB::WAITEG "MILLWALL PRIDE OF SOUTH LONDON" >>>

>>    Any more news yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have one player (me myself and I :-) but I'm still waiting for an answer
from about 10 guys so who knows.

T_

Mike,

By now you'll have realised that you're not going to get a set of ready-made 
teams just turning up. Not enough Geordies in Reading for instance! So, any 
chance of forming a few 'All-Star', 'Select', 'So crap no-one else would pick 
me' teams?

I'll play for (almost) anyone. And I've got a ball!

grahame

>> I'll play for (almost) anyone. And I've got a ball!
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Was the operation painful?  
    
    Your right, Grahame, at the moment we have about 7 teams in various
    states of completion.  As has been said before we're looking for 10
    teams, two leagues of five etc.  
    
    If anybody wants to play and hasn't got a team yet please drop me a
    mail (Mike McCabe @HHL) and I'll organise a couple of "All Star" teams.
    
    More news soon, including rules, after I've caught up with Antony. 
    
    If anyone has any info on the Rivermead, what's it like, is there a
    decent local boozer, etc?  Could they post the info please.
    
    Mike M

    Rivermead has a big outdoor artifical pitch.  (Have we hired all of it
    or just half).  Their is a bar in the centre itself.  Its about a two
    minute drive from town.  If anyone needs directions just say and i'll
    post to yer.

    
    If we don't get enough teams together then perhaps we can play 
    11-a-side for about 6 hours or 5-a-side finishing of with a
    decent 11 a side game.
    
    JN.

    
    Re. 41  
    
    Instead of using the bar, we could take a walk down to calendars and
    buy refreshing cokes at just �12 each:-)
    
    No, I stuck a note in the Manchester United topic, but have had little
    response (Apart from a note saying that the team would probably be
    runners-up. Verrry Fuune)
    
    I guess if not enough people can make it, I'll go in one of the "Really
    crap" teams.
    
    :-)
    
    Greg...

    re 44
    
    Join West Ham then

The local pubs are hmmmm (but then so are most of the Reading pubs). Pipers
Island in the Thames off Caversham Bridge is OK - depends what you're looking
for really...

Tarik

    Antony has booked 1/4 of the astro-turf pitch from 1.00pm till 7.00pm,
    cost 105 quid.  Next week we'll send off a 20 pound deposit.
    
    At the moment we seem to have 33 "definite" players with another 10
    maybes.  There isn't a team from either Liverpool or Man Utd.  Come on 
    chaps surely these incredibly well-supported teams can raise 5 players 
    each, can't they?   
    
    Mike M
    

I would like to refute YUPPY::STRAGED's allegation that I would sink 
so low as to want to wear an Arsenal shirt. But I am pleased to 
announce the near completion of the Dulwich Omlette 5-A-Side squad.

Ron Knee


BTW I trust all players must be card carrying Digital employees.

    Stuo,
    
    Is this Dulwich team consisting of Dulwich players or supporters ???
    Just interested as it may affect whether I attend or not.  In the first
    game of this season we were involved in a 20 man brawl against Dulwich
    and I may get recognised.
    
    		Brian.

Would love to play for "United" but i'm just back from a trip to England
and i won't be able to make it. Maybe next year.

�rian.
    

    So far the following teams and players have entered the 5-aside.  If
    I've missed anyone (Greg Davies?) please send me a mail.  We are
    looking for one more team to make up the 10.  Still no entry from
    either Man Utd or Liverpool, perhaps you could combine resources and
    have a Liverchester or a Manpool team?
    
    Arsenal           Tottenham          Chelsea            Millwall
    
    Mike McCabe       Antony Ferraro     Lawrence Jolly     Gary Waite
    Tony Bush         Dave Wilson        Jeff Nagle         Giles Newth 
    Mike O'Hagan      John Springall     Paul James         Jason Pratt 
    Barry O'Hagan     Adrian Pattison    Andy Barefield     Julian Keetch 
    Andy Mitchell     Jim Fairbairn      Stuart Briginshaw
    Nick McKie        2 x ?              John Foster  
    Mike Saxton
    David Strage
    
    Dulwich Ham's     Maxwell's Folly    Aldershot          All Star 1
    
    Stuart Panes      Brian House        Ben Stone          Grahame Ash
    Rob Anderson      Neil Cossey        4 x ?              David Shore
    Sean Winter       Neil O'Reilly                         Dave Hatton
    Stuart Piesley    Shaun Capel         
    John Liv'stone    Chris Rose
    John Hawes
    
    "The Dutch"
    
    Ton Jansen
    
    Ton Jansen wants to know of any local, reasonably priced hotels or B&Bs
    can anybody help, please?
    
    Mike M

    If your coming, by car, from Basingstoke or London (M4 J10), when 
    you get to Reading follow the signs for Caversham.  Once you get 
    to the centre of Reading you should pick up the signs for the 
    Rivermead (white wording on a brown background).  Just before 
    Caversham Bridge there is a sign pointing you towards the 
    Rivermead down Richfield Avenue.  The Rivermead is about 400 yards 
    down on the right-hand side.
    
    If your coming by train the station is about 10-15 minutes walk 
    from the Rivermead.
    
    If your coming any other way, your on your own!  I do have a map 
    of the centre of Reading which details all the main roads, 
    station, etc.  It's available upon request.
    
    The following is a rough 2DE map of the relevant landmarks, 
    needless to say it is not to scale.
    
                                                |    |+----+The Crown
                                                |    |+----+
                                                |    +------
         +---------+   Calendars    Three Men  /     /------
         |Rivermead|    +------+    in a Boat /     /+---+Pipers
         |         |    |      |       +--+  /     / +---+
         +---------+    +------+       +--+ /     /
       ------------------------------------/     / Caversham Bridge
              Richfield Avenue                  /
       -----------------------------------+    |
          +--------+       +--------+     |    |
          | Casino |       |Mercedes|     |    |Caversham
          |        |       |  Benz  |     |    |  Road
          +--------+       +--------+     |    |
                                          /   /
                                         /   /
                              Caversham /   /    +-------+
                                Road   /   /     |Station|
                                      /   /      +-------+
                                         ------------
                                         Tudor Road
                                        -------------
    
    Facilities at the Rivermead include a swimming pool, squash 
    courts, snooker tables, etc and a reasonably priced snack bar.  
    Typical prices are:
    
    	 - Jacket Potato with Cheese - 1.65
    	 - Steak and Kidney Pie - 1.10  
    	 - Chips - 0.65
    	 - Coffee - 0.50
    
    If anyone wants/has to bring the wife/girlfriend and they get 
    bored they can go on a river trip of the Thames from Caversham 
    Bridge.  Also, if you have to bring any kids there is a big 
    Adventure Playground next to the sportscentre.
    
    The start time for the first game is 1.10pm with the final due to 
    kick-off at approx 6.40pm.  It's probably a good idea to aim to 
    get to the Rivermead for 12.30pm.
    
    Once the footie has finished the main part of the day will get 
    underway.  There appear to be a choice of local hostelrys, as 
    follows:
    
    	 CALENDARS - Not a pub.  An American type restaurant with a 
         largish bar area.  The menu has a good choice of Tex Mex, 
         Steaks, Burgers, Chicken, Pasta and Vegetarian dishes.  I 
         imagine it would be about 15 quid a head for a starter, main 
         course and a couple of beers.  I presume that on a Saturday 
         night it will be rather crowded and that you would be 
         expected to eat rather than just stand at the bar and drink 
         their overpriced lager.   
    
    	 We could possibly have something to eat there (7.30ish when it 
         shouldn't be so crowded?) and then move on to a nearby pub?
    
    	 THREE MEN IN A BOAT - A large fairly new pub overlooking the 
         Thames.  It's got quite a big terrace, so if it's a hot 
         evening we could stand outside.
    
    	 PIPERS - A pub on Pipers Island, underneath(ish) Caversham 
         Bridge.
    
    	 THE CROWN - A more traditional looking English pub which 
         serves Courage beer.
    
    	 THE MODERATION - Another traditional looking English pub 
         which serves Charringtons (Ah! Draught Bass, nectar!  Got to 
         be better than that Courage muck!)
    
    I haven't been to any of the above, so perhaps someone who has  
    could give us an opinion. 
    
    Mike M
                                                  

    Is there a trophy for the winners?

Here's an update on the Dutch team

Ton Jansen
Harold Teuwen
Robin Huisman

Manager/coach Ton van Woerkom

T_

    > is there a trophy for the winners.
    
          I dont think a Millwall team will get that far.
    
    
    
      How about all going to the Railway Tavern or Thorn walk as these
      seem to be the places to be in Reading, and then about 10.00 o,clock
      steamin over to the night club which usaully sells specials, like 
      a bottle of pils or some sort of other bottled lager for a pound.
      
       ANDY.B.

    
    
    I haven't got a team as yet, but i'll ask Vince tommorow and after that
    we can probably raise a PRC/Drunken Beer Heads Team.
    
    Three men to a bird is a completely naff pub with loads of lightweights
    in, so don't go there.
    The Rising Sun, However, which is nearer the station is a much better
    choice of establishment for us lot.
    
    I don't think too many of the Manchester United fans are interested, so
    I guess another team is in order.
    
    Greg...

    > Trophy - Yes, not Whitbreads though.                  
    
    > Railway Tavern, Thorn Walk, Rising Sun and/or nightclub?
    
    As regards pubs these days I tend to use the following rule of thumb:
    	
    	1. No glass in the face.
    	2. Decent draught bitter.
    	3. Get served in less than a couple of minutes.
        4. Room to stand without continually being shoved.
    	5. No jukebox.
        6. Plentiful supply of young ladies with big mammary glands.  Ten
           years ago this would have been No. 1, but these days being a
           boring (Arsenal supporter afterall!), married, old git it
           doesn't have the priority it once did.
    	
    The Rising Sun is that the one opposite the station?  Ten years ago it
    used to be a Breakspear's (sp?) boozer and served a good pint.  
    
    I, actually, don't mind where we go for a beer, I'm happy to drift
    along with the consensus.  I'll even drink lager if I have too.  Bear
    in mind though that if 50+ people turn up to play and then, say, 30
    want to go for a drink the pub has got to be a fair size.
    
    As for a nightclub, probably not for me.  I'll be aiming to get one of
    the last trains back to London unless, of course, someone can supply
    the address of a cheap B&B or a free "pit" for the night.
    
    Mike M
      

    
    
    re -1
    
    Mike you are welcome to stay with me in Blazingsmoke if we are sober
    enough to make it there.
    
    Therte are a number of B'stoke noters taking part, notably myself and
    loz Jolly and maybe John Boy Woods so transport can be arranged.
    
    re a few back
    
    Ton
    
    
    You are also welcome to stay but I can't put up the entire dutch team.
    Do you remember the travel lodge you stayed in in Basingstoke (you must
    it was the only time you guys beat us), well there is one of those in
    Reading not too far from DECpark if your team can take the expense.
    
    Let me know.
    
    Andy Mitchell

           <<< Note 203.58 by LARVAE::MITCHELL "Dont Play COMPETE" >>>    
>>    Ton
    
    
>>    You are also welcome to stay but I can't put up the entire dutch team.
>>    Do you remember the travel lodge you stayed in in Basingstoke (you must
>>    it was the only time you guys beat us), well there is one of those in
>>    Reading not too far from DECpark if your team can take the expense.
    
>>    Let me know.
    
>>    Andy Mitchell

Andy,

If you could get me the adress and phone nbr of the Travel Lodge in Reading,
our mananger will book the arrangements, costs are no prob as DEC Holland
is paying the lot this incl. the hoover and petrol for the cars.

T_

       <<< Note 203.54 by UTROP1::JANSEN "another girl another planet" >>>
                               -< Dutch update >-

Here's an update on the Dutch team

Ton Jansen
Harold Teuwen
Robin Huisman
Cor van de Krogt
Job Beekhuis
Gerard Herder

Manager/coach Ton van Woerkom

T_

    Anyone willing for a Reading or a Manchester Utd team mail me.
    
    Tony Absolom @reo
    
    

    I hear the Manc noters are thinking of buying a team. Ho ho ho!
    
    barry.

                   <<< Note 203.51 by YUPPY::MCGRUB "Mike" >>>
                            -< Teams and Players. >-

     
    Dulwich Omlette    

    Stuart Panes   
    Rob Anderson     
    Sean Winter   
    Stewart Piesley   
    Paul Livingstone    
    John Hawes
    Richard "The Stoat" Skeil



    Stuart

    
    Ton,
    
    I should have some numbers, prices and addresses for you today, the
    travel lodge will be included, I'll send them ALL-IN-1,
    
    Loz.

  <<< Note 203.64 by PEKING::JOLLYL "Viva la rock .... the killer lives on" >>>

    
>>    Ton,
    
>>    I should have some numbers, prices and addresses for you today, the
>>    travel lodge will be included, I'll send them ALL-IN-1,
    
>>    Loz.


Lawrence,

Great, fanx very much.

T_

    
    1.  The winners will buy the first round of drinks in the pub 
    after the tournament!
    
    2.  Ten teams will be split into two leagues (1 and 2).  Each team 
    will play all the other teams in their league - four league games 
    for each team.  (For details of matches and the tournament draw 
    see the following note.)
    
    3.  Each game will consist of two halves of 6 minutes duration 
    (i.e. total game length of 12 minutes).  The half-time interval 
    will be the time it takes the teams to change ends and no more.
    
    4.  Teams will be awarded 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a 
    scoring draw, 1 point for a no score draw and 0 points for a 
    defeat.  League positions will be based upon highest number of 
    points. 
    
    5.  In the event of two teams tying for first (or any other) 
    place, by virtue of having the same number of points, the final 
    league positions will be decided using the following criteria:
    	 	   
    	 	   a) largest number of wins, if equal then
    	 	   b) result of individual match, if a draw then
    	 	   c) highest number of goals scored, if equal then
    	 	   d) goal difference.
    	 	   
    If two teams are still tied for first place then the league 
    winners will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - they will play 
    until one of the teams scores.  That team will then be declared 
    the winner of the league.  A similar procedure will operate if the 
    2nd and 3rd places are tied.  If other places are tied, the teams 
    will finish joint 3rd or 4th in the league.
    
    In the event of three or more teams tying for first place...Oh 
    bugger it!  Go down the pub early!
    
    6.  The winning team from each league will contest the final and 
    the the second placed teams will contest the 3rd/4th play-off 
    match.  
    
    If at the end of the final the score is tied, the tournament 
    winner will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - first team to 
    score wins the tournament.  
    
    If at the end of the 3rd/4th play-off the scores are tied, each 
    team will share 3rd place. 
    
    7.  The tournament winners will be presented with a (very) small 
    trophy which they will keep until the next Football Noters' 
    tournament.   
    
    8.  Each squad can consist of a maximum of eight players.  Each 
    player will be required to pay a three pound registration fee to 
    participate in the tournament.  The money will be used to pay for 
    the pitch and buy a trophy.  Any surplus will be donated to 
    charity.  (Monies to be collected by the team captains and a 
    cheque sent and made payable to Mike McCabe with a list of 
    players.  Money to be sent by 3rd June, please.  The Dutch team 
    can pay on the day.)
    
    9.  A maximum of two substitutes can be used per game.  The 
    referee must be informed before a substitution is made. 
    
    10. The goalkeeper can be changed once per game, at half-time, 
    unless injury prevents him from continuing.  In which case he can 
    be substituted at anytime.  The referee must be informed of the 
    change or substitution before it happens.
    
    11. A player who receives two bookings or is sent off will be 
    excluded from any further matches in the tournament.
    
    12. If the ball is kicked above head height a free-kick will be 
    awarded to the opposing team.
    
    13. After a goal has been scored play will be re-started by the 
    goalkeeper taking a goal-kick.
    
    14. If the ball goes out over the side-lines, play will be 
    re-started with a free-kick.
    
    15. The pitch may not be a properly marked out 5-aside pitch.  
    Hence, the extent of the penalty area, the penalty spot and the 
    half-way line may not be clearly defined.  Players are asked to 
    use their common-sense.  However, PLEASE NOTE the referee's 
    decision will be FINAL! 
    
    16. Games will kick-off at the appointed time, for details of 
    times see the following note.  
    
    In the event of neither team being available at the appointed 
    kick-off time, for a league game, the referee will wait two 
    minutes and if neither team is still available the game will be 
    declared void and neither team will get any points.
    
    In the event of one team being unavailable at the appointed 
    kick-off time, the referee will wait two minutes for that team to 
    arrive.  If they do not then the team on the pitch will be awarded 
    the game with a score of 3-0. 
    
    
    Comments, additions, deletions and/or changes please.
    
    
    Mike M

    Two leagues of five teams each will contest the first annual 
    Football Noters 5-aside Tournament.  
    
    	 	   League 1        League 2
    	 	   ========        ========
    
    	 	    Team A          Team F
                    Team B          Team G 
                    Team C          Team H 
                    Team D          Team I 
                    Team E          Team J 
    
    Each team will play every other team in its respective league.  
    The matches will take place as follows:
    
    	      1.10  A v B              3.55  F v H
    	      1.25  F v G              4.10  B v D
    	      1.40  C v D              4.25  G v I
    	      1.55  H v I              4.40  C v E
    	      2.10  A v E              4.55  H v J
    	      2.25  F v J              5.10  A v D
    	      2.40  B v C              5.25  F v I
    	      2.55  G v H              5.40  B v E
    	      3.10  D v E              5.55  G v J
    	      3.25  I v J              6.10  3rd/4th Play-off
    	      3.40  A v C              6.25  Final
    
    The above means that there will be a minimum of 45 minutes and a 
    maximum of 75 minutes between any team finishing a league game and 
    starting their next league match.
    
    In the event of either team G or J participating in the 3rd/4th 
    play-off game the start time for this match maybe subject to 
    alteration so that they can have a breather.
     
    Each match will be 12 minutes long, comprising two halves of 6 
    minutes each.  Additional time for injuries or time-wasting will 
    be at the referee's discretion.
    
    The identity of teams A-J will be decided approximately one week 
    before the tournament when the tournament draw will take place at 
    Enterprise House.  
    
    Mike M

    
    If there's a team out there looking for a cross between Paul Gascoigne,
    John Barnes and Kenny Dalglish, I'm yer man.
    
    In other words, I'm a fat, lazy git but I do possess reasonable
    knowledge of local hostelries. 
    
    jeff
    
    ps Did our Reading team ever get off the ground or couldn't we cobble
    together enough players?       

    A > denotes a change for the original note.

    1.  The winners will buy the first round of drinks in the pub 
    after the tournament!

    2.  Ten teams will be split into two leagues (1 and 2).  Each team 
    will play all the other teams in their league - four league games 
    for each team.  (For details of matches and the tournament draw
  > see note 67.)

    3.  Each game will consist of two halves of 6 minutes duration 
    (i.e. total game length of 12 minutes).  The half-time interval 
    will be the time it takes the teams to change ends and no more.

    4.  Teams will be awarded 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a 
    scoring draw, 1 point for a no score draw and 0 points for a 
    defeat.  League positions will be based upon highest number of 
    points. 

    5.  In the event of two teams tying for first (or any other) 
    place, by virtue of having the same number of points, the final 
    league positions will be decided using the following criteria:
    	 
    	 a) largest number of wins, if equal then
    	 b) result of individual match, if a draw then
    	 c) highest number of goals scored, if equal then
    	 d) goal difference.
    	 
    If two teams are still tied for first place then the league 
    winners will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - they will play 
    until one of the teams scores.  That team will then be declared 
    the winner of the league.  A similar procedure will operate if the 
    2nd and 3rd places are tied.  If other places are tied, the teams 
    will finish joint 3rd or 4th in the league.

    In the event of three or more teams tying for first place...Oh 
    bugger it!  Go down the pub early!

    6.  The winning team from each league will contest the final and 
    the second placed teams will contest the 3rd/4th play-off match.  

    If at the end of the final the score is tied, the tournament 
    winner will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - first team to 
    score wins the tournament.  

    If at the end of the 3rd/4th play-off the scores are tied, each 
    team will share 3rd place. 

    7.  The tournament winners will be presented with a (very) small 
    trophy which they will keep until the next Football Noters' 
    tournament.   

    8.  Each squad can consist of a maximum of eight players.  Each 
    player will be required to pay a three pound registration fee to 
    participate in the tournament.  The money will be used to pay for 
    the pitch and buy a trophy.  Any surplus will be donated to 
    charity.  (Monies to be collected by the team captains and a 
    cheque sent and made payable to Mike McCabe with a list of 
    players.  Money to be sent by 3rd June, please.  The Dutch team 
    can pay on the day.)

  > Players must be either Digital employees or contractors working 
  > for Digital and must read or contribute to the Football Notes
  > conference.

    9.  A maximum of two substitutes can be used per game.  The 
    referee must be informed before a substitution is made. 

    10. The goalkeeper can be changed once per game, at half-time, 
    unless injury prevents him from continuing.  In which case he can 
    be substituted at anytime.  The referee must be informed of the 
    change or substitution before it happens.

  > It is essential for goalkeepers to be distinguishable from other
  > players by wearing a different shirt.

    11. A player who receives two bookings or is sent off will be 
    excluded from any further matches in the tournament.

  > 12. If the ball is kicked deliberately above head height a
  > free-kick will be awarded to the opposing team at the place the
  > ball was kicked.  Accidental deflections above head height will be
  > decided by the referee on an individual basis.

    13. After a goal has been scored play will be re-started by the 
    goalkeeper taking a goal-kick.

    14. If the ball goes out over the side-lines, play will be
  > re-started with an underarm throw.

  > 15. The pitch has two "D-shaped" goal areas.  The only players
  > permitted within these areas are the goalkeepers.  Goalkeepers
  > are not allowed to leave their respective goal areas.  If a
  > goalkeeper leaves his goal area a penalty will be awarded to the
  > attacking team.  

  > If an attacking player enters the goal area a free kick will be
  > given to the defending team.  If a defending player enters the
  > goal area a penalty will be awarded to the attacking team.

    16. Games will kick-off at the appointed time, for details of
  > times see note 67.  

    In the event of neither team being available at the appointed 
    kick-off time, for a league game, the referee will wait two 
    minutes and if neither team is still available the game will be 
    declared void and neither team will get any points.

  > In the event of one team (ALL five players) being unavailable at 
    the appointed kick-off time, the referee will wait two minutes for 
    that team to arrive.  If they do not then the team on the pitch 
    will be awarded the game with a score of 3-0. 

  > 17.  At all "set pieces" the opposition must stand a minimum of
  > three feet away from the ball.  This means that if a foul is
  > committed within three feet of the goal area, by the defending
  > team, the attacking team can have a free shot at goal from where 
  > the offence was committed.

  > 18.  PLEASE NOTE THE REFEREE'S DECISION IS FINAL!   

Comments, additions, deletions and/or changes please.


Mike M

    Mike
    
    
    What about foot wear ?  boots, no boots ?
    
    Andy

Mike,

The '3 feet away at set-pieces' rule seems a bit harsh. You can't really give 
someone a penalty (which is a direct shot from just outside the D) for a ball 
above head-height just outside the box, which is what your rule implies. I 
suggest:

All defenders must be at least 3 feet from the free-kick. If the offence takes 
place less than 3 feet from the D, then the kick shall be taken 3 feet from 
the D.

Boots:

Rivermead's pitch is a typical plastic green surface, and most players use 
either flat-soled shoes, or those 'Astroturf' ones with small rubber studs or 
bars.

grahame

    re:69
    
    Doesn't the keeper usually have to roll the ball out in 5's?
    
    Are `stooping' or `diving' headers allowed?
    
    If the ball cannons of the keeper over head height, is this a penalty?
    
    Would this not be a bit harsh?
    
    What does it all mean?
    
    ...and can we define it?!?
    
    Jim.  

    >>The '3 feet away at set-pieces' rule seems a bit harsh. You 
    >>can't really give someone a penalty (which is a direct shot from 
    >>just outside the D) for a ball above head-height just outside 
    >>the box, which is what your rule implies. I suggest:
    
    >>  All defenders must be at least 3 feet from the free-kick. If 
    >>  the offence takes place less than 3 feet from the D, then the 
    >>  kick shall be taken 3 feet from the D.
    
    Yep, Grahame, your right.  I think your rule is better and fairer.
    
    >>Boots:
    
    >>Rivermead's pitch is a typical plastic green surface, and most 
    >>players use either flat-soled shoes, or those 'Astroturf' ones 
    >>with small rubber studs or bars.
    
    Trainers or 'Astroturf' thingies would seem to be the order of the 
    day.  Definitely no football boots.
    
        
    >>Doesn't the keeper usually have to roll the ball out in 5's?
      
    Er, maybe.  However, we'll be playining on 1/4 of a football 
    pitch, which I think is quite big for 5-aside.  Hence, I can't see 
    anything wrong in the 'keeper either throwing the ball out 
    underarm or passing it, provided he doesn't throw it or pass it 
    above head height.
      
    >>Are `stooping' or `diving' headers allowed?
    
    Yes.  Provided, of course, that the head of the person heading the 
    ball doesn't come into contact with someone's boot.  If this is 
    the case the referee may give a free-kick for dangerous and foul 
    use of the head.  You can't be too careful when people start heading
    people's boots!
        
    >>If the ball cannons of the keeper over head height, is this a 
    >>penalty?
    
    No, indirect free kick from where the original kick was taken?
        
    >>What does it all mean? ...and can we define it?!?
        
    Ah, the eternal question, Jim.  A bit heavy for a bright and sunny 
    Thursday morning in Football Notes, but I think it all means you 
    can't get a better pint than Bass Charringtons or in the words of the
    immortal W. C. Fields, "I wouldn't drink water, fish #$%& in it!".   
    
    
    This leads to....

                                                                      

    A > denotes a change since version 1.1.

    1.  The winners will buy the first round of drinks in the pub 
    after the tournament!

    2.  Ten teams will be split into two leagues (1 and 2).  Each team 
    will play all the other teams in their league - four league games 
    for each team.  (For details of matches and the tournament draw
    see note 67.)

    3.  Each game will consist of two halves of 6 minutes duration 
    (i.e. total game length of 12 minutes).  The half-time interval 
    will be the time it takes the teams to change ends and no more.

    4.  Teams will be awarded 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a 
    scoring draw, 1 point for a no score draw and 0 points for a 
    defeat.  League positions will be based upon highest number of 
    points. 

    5.  In the event of two teams tying for first (or any other) 
    place, by virtue of having the same number of points, the final 
    league positions will be decided using the following criteria:
    	 
    	 a) largest number of wins, if equal then
    	 b) result of individual match, if a draw then
    	 c) highest number of goals scored, if equal then
    	 d) goal difference.
    	 
    If two teams are still tied for first place then the league 
    winners will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - they will play 
    until one of the teams scores.  That team will then be declared 
    the winner of the league.  A similar procedure will operate if the 
    2nd and 3rd places are tied.  If other places are tied, the teams 
    will finish either joint 3rd or 4th in the league.

    In the event of three or more teams tying for first place...Oh 
    bugger it!  Go down the pub early!

    6.  The winning team from each league will contest the final and 
    the second placed teams will contest the 3rd/4th play-off match.  

    If at the end of the final the score is tied, the tournament 
    winner will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - first team to 
    score wins the tournament.  

    If at the end of the 3rd/4th play-off the scores are tied, each 
    team will share 3rd place. 

    7.  The tournament winners will be presented with a (very) small 
    trophy which they will keep until the next Football Noters' 
    tournament.   

    8.  Each squad can consist of a maximum of eight players.  Each 
    player will be required to pay a three pound registration fee to 
    participate in the tournament.  The money will be used to pay for 
    the pitch and buy a trophy.  Any surplus will be donated to 
    charity.  (Monies to be collected by the team captains and a 
    cheque sent and made payable to Mike McCabe with a list of 
    players.  Money to be sent by 3rd June, please.  The Dutch team 
    can pay on the day.)

    Players must be either Digital employees or contractors working 
    for Digital and must read or contribute to the Football Notes
    conference.

    9.  A maximum of two substitutes can be used per game.  The 
    referee must be informed before a substitution is made. 

    10. The goalkeeper can be changed once per game, at half-time, 
    unless injury prevents him from continuing.  In which case he can 
    be substituted at anytime.  The referee must be informed of the 
    change or substitution before it happens.

    It is essential for goalkeepers to be distinguishable from other
    players by wearing a different shirt.

    11. A player who receives two bookings or is sent off will be 
    excluded from any further matches in the tournament.

  > 12. If the ball is kicked above head height an indirect free-kick 
    will be awarded to the opposing team at the place the ball was
  > kicked.  (Also see 17.)  

  > If the goalkeeper makes a save which results in the ball going
  > above head height, whilst still on the field of play, then the
  > attacking team will be awarded an indirect free-kick from where
  > the original shot took place.

    Other accidental deflections above head height will be decided by 
    the referee on an individual basis.  

    13. After a goal has been scored play will be re-started by the 
  > goalkeeper passing the ball out.  No other player is allowed to
  > touch the ball until the goalkeeper has kicked it.

    14. If the ball goes out over the side-lines, play will be
    re-started with an underarm throw.

    15. The pitch has two "D-shaped" goal areas.  The only players
    permitted within these areas are the goalkeepers.  Goalkeepers
    are not allowed to leave their respective goal areas.  If a
    goalkeeper leaves his goal area a penalty will be awarded to the
    attacking team.  

    If an attacking player enters the goal area a free kick will be
    given to the defending team.  If a defending player enters the
    goal area a penalty will be awarded to the attacking team.

    16. Games will kick-off at the appointed time, for details of
    times see note 67.  

    In the event of neither team being available at the appointed 
    kick-off time, for a league game, the referee will wait two 
    minutes and if neither team is still available the game will be 
    declared void and neither team will get any points.

    In the event of one team (ALL five players) being unavailable at 
    the appointed kick-off time, the referee will wait two minutes for 
    that team to arrive.  If they do not then the team on the pitch 
    will be awarded the game with a score of 3-0. 

    17.  At all "set pieces" all defenders must be at least 3 feet 
    from the free-kick.  

  > If an offence occurs less than 3 feet from the "D", then the kick
  > shall be taken 3 feet from the "D".

  > 18.  PLEASE NOTE THE REFEREE'S DECISION IS FINAL EVEN IF HE IS
  > CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY WRONG!   

Comments, additions, deletions and/or changes please.


Mike M

      Due to an injury ( ear-ache? ) Rob "Bad Ass" Anderson has had to 
withdraw from the Omlette's squad.

The current line-up is;

	Stuart Panes ( sheepskin and encouragement )
	Sean Winter
	Stewart Piesley
	Paul Livingstone
	John Hawes
	Richard "The Stoat" Skeil
	Dave Ashton

	Stuart

Stuart,

This team has no trouble complying with Rule 8 (para 2)?

grahame (stirring, as ever)

    re 18
    
    'With a strike force of Rush, Saunders and Hughes you would expect
    more.'
    
    Well with all due respect to Rush No not really. Hughes and Saunders
    have hardly scorched their way to the top scorers charts have they.
    
    I reckon if pay for performance was used in the league then we may well
    see a little more action from the likes of Saunders, Hughes and Barnes.
    
    Regards,
    
    
    Barry.

              <<< Note 203.77 by FORTY2::ASH "Grahame Ash @REO" >>>

>Stuart,

>This team has no trouble complying with Rule 8 (para 2)?

>grahame (stirring, as ever)


The Omlettes are all full time Digital employees, working in Enterprise House,
but it is with great regret that I feel we must withdraw because they don't
all contribute to the Football Conference.


Give my regards to F.I.F.A,


Stuart


( The thinking man's kerb-crawler )

Stuart,

Are we just winding each other up here?! Are you really pulling out? I thought 
the point of the day was to get to know and shake hands (or throats) with 
fellow Noters, so I understand the rule, but as one of the valued contributors 
to this conf, it'd be a great shame if you can't make it. 

Does grovelling help?!

grahame

    
    	re - 1
    	
    	Stuart, come along - I'm sure we can accomodate your team. Can we
    	have a word from the organisers - Mike Mc.
    
    	
    		Tony B.

I'll second that - what does everyone think? 

g

    
    here here - the more the merrier.
    
    Also, can we have an up to date list of the teams with captains so that
    i know who to send the dosh to.
    
    Ta.
    
    davidS.
    Come on you All-Stars...
    

    I'll publish an up-to-date list of teams next week and at the same time
    get into serious money collecting mode.  As of now I have received the
    princely sum of, not a sausage!
    
    As regards rule 8 para 2 - the point of the tournament, as Grahame has
    said, is to; meet some fellow football noters, have a good time, have a 
    few beers and play a bit of football.  If to raise a team you have to
    include a few "non-noters" then so be it, the more the merrier, etc.  
    But Antony and I don't want to end up organising a tournament where the 
    majority of people have never heard of Football Notes.
    
    Mike M 
    

    
>    As regards rule 8 para 2 - the point of the tournament, as Grahame has
>    said, is to; meet some fellow football noters, have a good time, have a 
>    few beers and play a bit of football.  If to raise a team you have to
>    include a few "non-noters" then so be it, the more the merrier, etc.  
>    But Antony and I don't want to end up organising a tournament where the 
>    majority of people have never heard of Football Notes.
    
 
     Well it is with great regret that I have to inform you that the Omlettes
     are back in.

     Stuart    

    
    
    Do we now have ten teams for this event, if so who are they..
    
    Andy.b.
    

    We do seem to have ten teams, as follows:
    
    Arsenal           Tottenham          Chelsea            Millwall
    =======           =========          =======            ========
    Mike McCabe(c)    Antony Ferraro(c)  Lawrence Jolly(c)  Gary Waite(c)
    Tony Bush         John Springall     Jeff Nagle         Giles Newth 
    Mike O'Hagan      Adrian Pattison    Paul James         Jason Pratt 
    Barry O'Hagan     Jim Fairbairn      Andy Barefield     Julian Keetch 
    Andy Mitchell     2 x ?              Stuart Briginshaw
    Mike Saxton                          John Foster  
    David Strage
    
    "The Omlettes"    Maxwell's Folly    Aldershot          All Stars
    ==============    ===============    =========          =========
    Stuart Panes(c)   Brian House(c)     Ben Stone(c)       Grahame Ash
    John Hawes        Neil Cossey        Peter Ashton       David Shore
    Sean Winter       Neil O'Reilly      Peter Hutchison    Dave Hatton
    Stuart Piesley    Shaun Capel        Peter Horton
    John Liv'stone    Chris Rose         Paul Cosgrove
                                         Matthew Weller
    
    The Dutch         Reading 
    =========         =======
    Ton Jansen(c)     Tony Absolom
    Harold Teuwen     Tarik Sadat
    Robin Huisman     Simon Trinder
    Cor van de Krogt  Jeff ? (suburb::inv_library)
    Job Beekhuis
    Gerard Herder
    Ton van Woerkom
                                                                          
    
    The (c) denotes captain.  Would the captains take responsibility for
    collecting the 3 pounds per person fee for playing in the tournament,
    please.  Would they then send me a cheque for the money together with a
    list of players.  In this way I can easily (?) keep track of who has 
    paid and who hasn't.  Please don't send cash, other than delivering it 
    to me personally on the sixth floor at HHL.  If you send cash then I 
    have no way of proving that I received the money nor anyway of proving 
    that you sent the money.
    
    If a couple of people would like to volunteer from the All Star and 
    Reading teams to be captains and collect the money it would be much
    appreciated.  Otherwise could the people in those teams send me the
    money individually.
    
    Also, does anybody else want to play?  The All Star team still needs a
    couple of players and Millwall and Reading are both a player short each.
    
    Finally, can I suggest that as regards having a drink (the main event!)
    after the football we start off at the "Three Men in a Boat" which is a
    two minute walk from the Rivermead, and then decide, if necessary, to go
    on somewhere from there, OK? 
    
    Mike M

I've just looked in at this conference, after a long absence.

I'd love to play in this competition, if any team is still short at this stage.

- Paul

    
    The Chelsea team has changed slightly, we have a player on loan from
    Reading:
    
    Lawrence Jolly
    Andy Barefield
    Stuart Brigginshaw
    Paul James
    Jeff Nagle
    Stuart Bunyard
    and Paul Munson
    
    Jeff,
     
    I'll send you our dues next week, can't believe what you've acheived
    here you and Anthony have done a super job,
    
    Loz.

    How about abolishing the "head height" rule?
    
    It's easier to police and anyhow how high is head height?
    
    

    John,                                                               
    
    I think the head height rule should stay as we will find if we have
    over head height it will be boot and run, usually resembling a Pin ball
    game. At least with below head height we can play the ball around and 
    will make good games for the "Many" spectators who will watch.
    
    I think that in all games the refing will just have to be obeyed
    without all this professional dissent and just get on with the game.
    
    The tournament is drawing near and I'm really looking forward to it.
    
    antony
    

                   <<< Note 203.87 by YUPPY::MCCABE "Mike" >>>
                        -< Update and appeal for dosh. >-

    "The Omlettes"   
    ==============   
    Stuart Panes(c)  
    John Hawes       
    Sean Winter      
    Stuart Piesley   
    Paul Livingstone
    Dave Ashton
    Richard "The Stoat" Skeil
    


    Me Captain... pah!!!!  It is a workers co-operative.


    Stuart "Enxer Hoxtha" Panes

    
    I also think the head height rule should stay, being on the Chelsea
    side, I know we can play our football on the ground, not like some
    of the other teams I could mention.
    
    Andy.b.
    

    Perhaps the head height rule should be introduced in the league?
    
    Perhaps only for teams beginning with W..... ? (Only joking!)
    
    Perhaps head height should be as Gordon Strachan's?
    
    I'm looking forward to meeting you all on our big day!

    
    Head height
    
    So what  The Arsenal team will play to any rules.
    
    Loz see you Tomorrow
    
    Andy
    
    
    P.S  Are there any other noters going to the DEC 5 a side tomorrow ??
    

    
    I may be there but that depends on what time I get out of
    bed. Friday is a late night for me this week as I'm playing 
    ice hockey at a rather stupid time of the morning (1:30 -3:00 
    am). Thats also the reason why I'm not actually playing footy
    tomorrow although those that know me could think of other reasons.
    
    Good luck to all those taking part anyway. Have fun.
    
    JN.
    
    

    Yeah,  I'll be there tomorrow under the guise of U.T.B.N.B.F.C.
    
    Let's hope it keeps fine and the beer is good,  oh and that we win.
    
    See you tomorrow.
    
    	      	Brian.

Mike,

according to the rules each team can have two subs. My question is can
they be chnaged as much as you like or only once during a game?

T_

    Mike,
    
    A rule from the DEC tournament Saturday which IMO should be incorporated
    into the noters comp :
    
    When the ball goes above head height off the keeper, the keeper gets a
    goal kick. This is fair when you consider that a lot of shots will be
    from right outside the D, and the keeper will (if he's any good !) rush
    out and block the angle. Hence the rebound that could go anywhere.
    I think this is fairer that penalising the keeper for making a save.
    (unless of course he throws it out above head height)
    
    Any views ?
    
    
    Andy.
    

    
    I agree with -1. We play that rule at five aside in harefield.
    
    DavidS.
    

Just had a chat with Mike and we agree, the rules for Saturday week will be 
amended to incorporate this. I do not know if they will be entered into the 
conference though. Only if Mike has time.

antony

    Re: .98
    
    Ton, two subs per game to be used once and once only per game as per a
    normal 11 aside league game.
    
    Re: .99
    
    Overhead height off the keeper results in a goal-kick, OK.  Unless the
    keeper deflects it behind the goal-line in which case a corner is
    awarded.
    
    This gives....   

    A > denotes a change since the version 1.2
    
    1.  The winners will buy the first round of drinks in the pub 
    after the tournament!

    2.  Ten teams will be split into two leagues (1 and 2).  Each team 
    will play all the other teams in their league - four league games 
    for each team.  (For details of matches and the tournament draw
    see note 67.)

    3.  Each game will consist of two halves of 6 minutes duration 
    (i.e. total game length of 12 minutes).  The half-time interval 
    will be the time it takes the teams to change ends and no more.

    4.  Teams will be awarded 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a 
    scoring draw, 1 point for a no score draw and 0 points for a 
    defeat.  League positions will be based upon highest number of 
    points. 

    5.  In the event of two teams tying for first (or any other) 
    place, by virtue of having the same number of points, the final 
    league positions will be decided using the following criteria:
    	 
    	 a) largest number of wins, if equal then
    	 b) result of individual match, if a draw then
    	 c) highest number of goals scored, if equal then
    	 d) goal difference.
    	 
    If two teams are still tied for first place then the league 
    winners will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - they will play 
    until one of the teams scores.  That team will then be declared 
    the winner of the league.  A similar procedure will operate if the 
    2nd and 3rd places are tied.  If other places are tied, the teams 
    will finish either joint 3rd or 4th in the league.

    In the event of three or more teams tying for first place...Oh 
    bugger it!  Go down the pub early!

    6.  The winning team from each league will contest the final and 
    the second placed teams will contest the 3rd/4th play-off match.  

    If at the end of the final the score is tied, the tournament 
    winner will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - first team to 
    score wins the tournament.  

    If at the end of the 3rd/4th play-off the scores are tied, each 
    team will share 3rd place. 

    7.  The tournament winners will be presented with a (very) small 
    trophy which they will keep until the next Football Noters' 
    tournament.   

    8.  Each squad can consist of a maximum of eight players.  Each 
    player will be required to pay a three pound registration fee to 
    participate in the tournament.  The money will be used to pay for 
    the pitch and buy a trophy.  Any surplus will be donated to 
    charity.  (Monies to be collected by the team captains and a 
    cheque sent and made payable to Mike McCabe with a list of 
    players.  Money to be sent by 3rd June, please.  The Dutch team 
    can pay on the day.)

    Players must be either Digital employees or contractors working 
    for Digital and must read or contribute to the Football Notes
    conference.

  > 9.  A maximum of two substitutes can be used once per game.  The 
    referee must be informed before a substitution is made. 

    10. The goalkeeper can be changed once per game, at half-time, 
    unless injury prevents him from continuing.  In which case he can 
    be substituted at anytime.  The referee must be informed of the 
    change or substitution before it happens.

    It is essential for goalkeepers to be distinguishable from other
    players by wearing a different shirt.

    11. A player who receives two bookings or is sent off will be 
    excluded from any further matches in the tournament.

    12. If the ball is kicked above head height an indirect free-kick 
    will be awarded to the opposing team at the place the ball was
    kicked.  (Also see 17.)  

  > If the goalkeeper makes a save which results in the ball going
  > above head height and it remains on the field of play then a goal-kick 
  > will be awarded.
  
    Other accidental deflections above head height will be decided by 
    the referee on an individual basis.  

    13. After a goal has been scored play will be re-started by the 
    goalkeeper passing the ball out.  No other player is allowed to
    touch the ball until the goalkeeper has kicked it.

    14. If the ball goes out over the side-lines, play will be
    re-started with an underarm throw.

    15. The pitch has two "D-shaped" goal areas.  The only players
    permitted within these areas are the goalkeepers.  Goalkeepers
    are not allowed to leave their respective goal areas.  If a
    goalkeeper leaves his goal area a penalty will be awarded to the
    attacking team.  

    If an attacking player enters the goal area a free kick will be
    given to the defending team.  If a defending player enters the
    goal area a penalty will be awarded to the attacking team.

    16. Games will kick-off at the appointed time, for details of
    times see note 67.  

    In the event of neither team being available at the appointed 
    kick-off time, for a league game, the referee will wait two 
    minutes and if neither team is still available the game will be 
    declared void and neither team will get any points.

    In the event of one team (ALL five players) being unavailable at 
    the appointed kick-off time, the referee will wait two minutes for 
    that team to arrive.  If they do not then the team on the pitch 
    will be awarded the game with a score of 3-0. 

    17.  At all "set pieces" all defenders must be at least 3 feet 
    from the free-kick.  

    If an offence occurs less than 3 feet from the "D", then the kick
    shall be taken 3 feet from the "D".

    18.  PLEASE NOTE THE REFEREE'S DECISION IS FINAL EVEN IF HE IS
    CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY WRONG!   

Comments, additions, deletions and/or changes please.


Mike M

    Unfortunately, Brian House's side, Maxwell's Folly, have had to drop
    out of the tournament leaving us with nine teams.  Does anybody know of
    anyone else who would like to compete so that we can have ten teams?
    
    Also, so far there has been a distinct shortage of money making its way
    to HHL.  I appreciate it is near the end of the month and you maybe
    short of cash, but it is only three quid.  
     
    Arsenal           Tottenham          Chelsea            Millwall
    =======           =========          =======            ========
    Mike McCabe(c)    Antony Ferraro(c)  Lawrence Jolly(c)  Gary Waite(c)
    Tony Bush         John Springall     Jeff Nagle         Giles Newth 
    Mike O'Hagan      Adrian Pattison    Paul James         Jason Pratt 
    Barry O'Hagan     Jim Fairbairn      Andy Barefield     Julian Keetch 
    Andy Mitchell     Jon Kane           Mick Barnes
    Mike Saxton       Pete Thomas        Stuart Bunyard
    David Strage      Stephen Craig      Paul Munson 
    
    "The Omlettes"    Aldershot          All Star 1
    ==============    =========          ==========
    Stuart Panes(c)   Ben Stone(c)       Grahame Ash
    John Hawes        Peter Ashton       David Shore
    Sean Winter       Peter Hutchison    Dave Hatton
    Stuart Piesley    Peter Horton       Paul Moore
    Paul Liv'stone    Paul Cosgrove
    Dave Ashton       Matthew Weller
    Richard Skeil
    
    The Dutch         Reading 
    =========         =======
    Ton Jansen(c)     Tony Absolom
    Harold Teuwen     Tarik Sadat
    Robin Huisman     Simon Trinder
    Cor van de Krogt  Jeff ? (suburb::inv_library)
    Job Beekhuis      Andy Lainsbury 
    Gerard Herder
    Ton van Woerkom

Things are getting very official with a trophy being purchased this morning. It 
is a shield that we will add the winners name onto and will be kept by the 
winning team until next time. Although we have coloured bibs, it would be 
appreciated if you organise a couple of different coloured tops for your team ie 
t shirts, just to keep things speeding along on the day. 

Antony

    
    R.E.104,
    
    Vince Money and me are trying to get up a tenth team. I'll let you know
    tomorrow how we got on...
    
    Greg...

The Dutch line-up has slightly changed, here it is:


   Ton Jansen
   Han Aawater
   Harold Teuwen
   Ron Hehemann
   Robin Huisman
   Gerard Herder

   manager/coach Ton van Woerkom

   A seventh player will be added to this fine selection soon.

T_

    
    Ok...
    
    So far i've got four players from Winnersh. I'll do some more hunting
    aboot and by this time tomorrow you can rest assured that i'll have at
    least 5.
    
    Greg...

Good work Greg, 

Whats the team name?

antony

    
    Er...
    
    something like......"Drunken Beer head No Hopers Elect"
    
    or something.
    
    Greg...

    
    	> something like......"Drunken Beer head No Hopers Elect"
    
    	isn't there already one called Spurs? ;-)
    
    	Andy.

Mr McGrub,


We might have to change our name from the "Omlettes" to the Accrington Stanleys.


I thank yew,

Stuart ( S.F.B )

There is a rumour that a team which follows "a very interesting" club
are having a practise session.



Stuart



BTW The Omlettes are doing altitude training at a , at the time of 
writing  undisclosed, upstairs bar.

Any teams short that need an extra, 6'3", player?

Yours hopefully,
  John Wood

<<< Note 203.114 by BARQUE::WOOD_J "John Wood @SBP, UK Alpha Resource Centre" >>>
                              -< anyone short?? >-

>>Any teams short that need an extra, 6'3", player?

>>Yours hopefully,
>>  John Wood


If any of you wanne win this tournament you need this guy!!

How's life John boy DAlek?

T_

    Hey Mr John Wood, mail Gary Waite @REO as you could be a lucky member
    of the Millwall FC team.
    
    Tony

...for a record transfer fee of NOTHING!

	"MILLWALL MILLWALL MILLWALL..."

JBD

    Thanks to the eighteen people who have so far sent me their three quid. 
    Plus I'm on a promise for about fifty more.  So it's looking good.  
    
    The draw will be held tomorrow at lunchtime.  Details of the matches
    will then be posted here.
    
    The latest team news is:
    
    Arsenal           Tottenham          Chelsea            Millwall
    =======           =========          =======            ========
    Mike McCabe(c)    Antony Ferraro(c)  Lawrence Jolly(c)  Gary Waite(c)
    Tony Bush         John Springall     Jeff Nagle         John Wood   
    Mike O'Hagan      Adrian Pattison    Paul James         Jason Pratt 
    Barry O'Hagan     Jim Fairbairn      Andy Barefield     Julian Keetch 
    Andy Mitchell     Jon Kane           Mick Barnes        Adrian Keetch
    Mike Saxton       Pete Thomas        Stuart Bunyard
    David Strage      Stephen Craig      Paul Munson 
    Geoff Forde
    
    "The Omlettes"    Aldershot          All Star 1
    ==============    =========          ==========
    Stuart Panes(c)   Ben Stone(c)       Grahame Ash
    John Hawes        Peter Ashton       David Shores
    Sean Winter       Peter Hutchison    Dave Hatton
    Paul Hennigan     Peter Horton       Paul Moore
    Paul Liv'stone    Paul Cosgrove      Neil O'Reilly
    Dave Ashton       Matthew Weller     Neil Cossey
    Richard Skeil     Brian Jarman
    Ian Charles
                                                       
    The Dutch         Reading            D.B.H.N.H.E.
    =========         =======            ============
    Ton Jansen(c)     Tony Absolom       Greg Davies
    Harold Teuwen     Tarik Sadat        Vince Money
    Robin Huisman     Simon Trinder      3 x ?
    Han Aawater       Jeff Kirkpatrick
    Gerard Herder     Andy Lainsbury 
    Ron Hehemann
    Ton van Woerkom
    
    Mike M

    
    The D.B.H.N.H.E. X is still at four, but Loz has imformed me of 3
    others that have expressed an interest to play.
    
    There's me, Vince Money, Juan Villegas and Steve Thompson.
    
    Greg..
    
    P.S.
    
    Mike- In the rules it states that "The winning team must but the first
    round of drinks in the pub"
    
    I trust that the round is for the Runners-up or something.
    
    According to my 'accurate' calculations, if there are 7 players in each
    team, and there are 10 teams, and at approx. 1.50 per pint.... that's
    ........um.....um.......105 quidola.   WOW!
    
    That's quite a lot of money, methinks.
    
    Can you verify this pleese?
    
    Greg...

Mike,

what time is the draw.

antony

    >>Mike- In the rules it states that "The winning team must but the first
    >>round of drinks in the pub"
    
    >>I trust that the round is for the Runners-up or something.
    
    >>According to my 'accurate' calculations, if there are 7 players in each
    >>team, and there are 10 teams, and at approx. 1.50 per pint.... that's
    >>........um.....um.......105 quidola.   WOW!
    
    >>That's quite a lot of money, methinks.
    
    >>Can you verify this pleese?
    
    >>Greg...
    
    Yeah, I reckon it will be the only final that will have been decided on
    own goals!  :-)  
    
    Can you imagine the barman's face, "Err, excuse me mate, 25 pints of 
    bitter, 25 pints of lager, 5 bottles of Grolsch, 3 lager tops, 4 pints 
    of bitter shandy and eight pints of Guiness, please!"  We'll probably
    need our own full-time barman for the night!
    
    I don't think seventy people will be going for a drink (nearer
    eighty?!).  Obviously if a round is going to cost mega-bucks then we will
    have to sort something out.  Worry about it on the day, I think.
    
    As for the draw, see....
    
    Mike M

    Two leagues of five teams each will contest the first annual 
    Football Noters 5-aside Tournament on 13th June at the Rivermead
    Leisure Centre, Reading.  
    
    	 	   League 1        League 2
    	 	   ========        ========
    
    	 	   The Dutch       All Stars			      
                   DBHNHE          Omlettes
                   Arsenal         Chelsea 
                   Millwall        Reading 
                   Tottenham       Aldershot
    
    Each team will play every other team in its respective league.  
    The matches will take place as follows:
    
    	 1.10  The Dutch v DBHNHE      3.55  All Stars v Chelsea
    	 1.25  All Stars v Omlettes    4.10  DBHNHE v Millwall
    	 1.40  Arsenal v Millwall      4.25  Omlettes v Reading
    	 1.55  Chelsea v Reading       4.40  Arsenal v Tottenham
    	 2.10  The Dutch v Tottenham   4.55  Chelsea v Aldershot
    	 2.25  All Stars v Aldershot   5.10  The Dutch v Millwall
    	 2.40  DBHNHE v Arsenal        5.25  All Stars v Reading
    	 2.55  Omlettes v Chelsea      5.40  DBHNHE v Tottenham
    	 3.10  Millwall v Tottenham    5.55  Omlettes v Aldershot
    	 3.25  Reading v Aldershot     6.10  3rd/4th Play-off
    	 3.40  The Dutch v Arsenal     6.25  Final
    
    Just in case anybody thinks it was fixed, the draw was done by Stuart
    Panes (wearing a nice little sequined off-the-shoulder number) and was
    witnessed by Sean Winter.  Master of ceremonies was me.  We tried to
    get Pavarotti along to sing a couple of numbers but unfortunately he
    was otherwise engaged mending the coffee machine on the second floor.  
    
    Mike M

Will anybody be able to bring a white board & pens along, so the spectators
will be able to monitor the state of play at a glance, as it were?

T

We've put some blank league table formats together which we will fill in after 
each set of results. Mike will put together the master schedule being the 
project manager. I will phone Rivermead today or monday to see if they have a 
flip chart or something. From todays weather the thing most needed might be 
umbrellas.

antony

The Dutch squad is looking forward of meeting you all and are hoping
for a good result, thanks to the organisers for letting us play the
opening match, it won't be dull.

T_

    I think Reading will be pleased not to meet us.
    
    Cheers
    Gary

     <<< Note 203.126 by SUBURB::WAITEG "MILLWALL PRIDE OF SOUTH LONDON" >>>
                                 -< The Draw >-

>>    I think Reading will be pleased not to meet us.
    
>>    Cheers
>>    Gary


The Dutch are very pleased to meet you!!!!!!!!!

T_

    
    I think you guys have made a great performance getting this tournament
    coming true. If it wasnt for EURO-92 i would come over and watch it.
    DEC is responsable for the UEFA-network, and me and a mate will be
    sitting on-site during the whole EURO-92 tournament. I'll hope you have 
    great fun!!!
    
    Mats
    
    PS. The only thing missing now is a prediction topic...    :-) :-)
    

    Matt,
    
    Where have you been? topic 210 is almost up to 100 replies.. and it's
    all about EURO '92 predictions. You're still in time to get yours in.
    
    Good luck,
    Nick

    Nick,
    i think he was talking about starting up predictions for the noters
    tournament!
    Ian.

    10/4 Ian,
    
    I got you. Hey that might not be a bad idea! I wish I could be there.
    
    We will have a friendly game today... imagine the great north-south
    match!
    
    		USA DECCIES     vs.   CANADA DECCIES
    
    Actually a bunch of deccies from Canada came down to see ITALY vs.
    IRELAND at Foxboro, yesterday, a bunch of us USA Deccies decided to
    let them feel good on their way back home. (We will try to beat them,
    but I kind of doubt it). But I know we will have fun! Who knows,
    someday we might make it up there and have a continuous affair.
    
    Good luck to all of you noters in England. I hope your tournament is a
    success! God Bless!
    
    Ciao - Nick

    <<< Note 203.128 by GOTA1::APPELQVIST "If it don't stink, don't stir" >>>
                         -< Next year i'll join you!! >-

    
>>    I think you guys have made a great performance getting this tournament
>>    coming true. If it wasnt for EURO-92 i would come over and watch it.
>>    DEC is responsable for the UEFA-network, and me and a mate will be
>>    sitting on-site during the whole EURO-92 tournament. I'll hope you have 
>>    great fun!!!
    
 >>   Mats
    
 >>   PS. The only thing missing now is a prediction topic...    :-) :-)
   

Why is it that only the Dutch are traveling up to England when there is
football played? Where are the German, French, Italians, Swiss, Vikings???

Let's hope next year they all can make it, so it would really be an 
international noters tournament.

T_ 

Can somebody find out wich Pubs will broadcast Scotland vs Holland
on the 12th, 'cause playing the noters tournament doesn't mean we
want to miss out on the first win in Sweden of the Dutch team.

T_

The Dutch tema sre staying at Russell Court Hotel aka Oakleigh Court Hotel,
27 Russell Street, Reading. Is this near to the ground???

can somebody give us info how to get there or is somebody willing to pick us
up saturday morning??


T_

    Ton,
    
    According to my map Russell Street is south of the Rivermead and looks
    to be about a fifteen to twenty minute walk.
    
    Mike M

Ton,

How are you getting to Reading? Russell Street is just to the West of the town 
centre, along Oxford Road, probably about 1.5km from the station.

grahame

             <<< Note 203.136 by FORTY2::ASH "Grahame Ash @REO" >>>
                         -< More info if you need it >-

>>Ton,

>>How are you getting to Reading? Russell Street is just to the West of the town 
>>centre, along Oxford Road, probably about 1.5km from the station.

>>grahame

Grahame,

We are comming by car, at least that was the latest news cause yesterday
one of the players told me he couldn't make it and he was also one of the two
guys who would supply a car. The problem now is that we have enough players
but only one suitable car, so we are working on the second car and hope we
can sort things out before tommorow afternoon otherwise we will have a hughe
problem :-(

T_

Ton,

Assuming no-one's going to fax you a map of Reading ( . . .) let's hope this 
is enough:

As i said, Russell Street runs South from Oxford Road, just to the West of the 
town centre. When you get to Reading, you should follow the signs to 
Pangbourne. This should bring you out to Oxford Road just before Russell 
Street (which is easy to recognise as it has a huge Snooker Hall at the end of 
it).

From the hotel, walk back down to Oxford Road, turn right towards the town, 
and take the next street on the left. At the end of this street is The Butler, 
where you should be able to spend a few happy hours sinking Fullers beer.

Look forward to seeing you,

grahame

Grahame and evrybody else concerned,

things already look a little bit better, there's a big change we will get
a car from DEC as lots of people have quit during the last few months and
there are lease cars hanging in the parking lot doing nothing. We are sorting
this out and hope we can lay our hands on an Alfa 33 1.7E (fore anyone who
knows him it used to be Marcel van Galen's car).

T_ 

    Ton
    
    If you are using Marcels Car then you should empty all the girlies
    underwear from the boot before setting out  8-)
    
    See you Friday or Saturday
    
    Andy

rep -1

Andy,

bad luck the lease-company just removed the Alfa from the parking lot,
so we have to look for other options but we'll be there.


T_

PS I managed to get a single room at the hotel so if you are too pissed
   to drive home on saturday you can bunk (SP??) with me!

T_

        <<< Note 203.142 by ANNECY::ROWLAND_A "a slip of the tongue" >>>
                 -< Now there's an offer you can't refuse ... >-

    

    This is the final update before the "big day".  It summarises: the 
    matches; who will ref the games; gives the latest team news, gives 
    the final version of the rules and has a map of where the 
    Rivermead is located.
    
    So far 35 people have paid their "subs" with numerous others being 
    promised for the day.  Many, many thanks to the people who have 
    paid already.  
    
    
    Matches and Refs
    ================
    
    Dave Tyldesley, Brian House and Antony Ferraro have volunteered to 
    ref the games, as follows: 

    1.10  The Dutch v DBHNHE (Brian)	 3.55  All Stars v Chelsea (Antony)
    1.25  All Stars v Omlettes (Antony)	 4.10  DBHNHE v Millwall (Brian)
    1.40  Arsenal v Millwall (Dave)	 4.25  Omlettes v Reading (Brian)
    1.55  Chelsea v Reading (Brian)	 4.40  Arsenal v Tottenham (Dave)
    2.10  The Dutch v Tottenham (Brian)	 4.55  Chelsea v Aldershot (Dave)
    2.25  All Stars v Aldershot (Dave)	 5.10  The Dutch v Millwall (Brian)
    2.40  DBHNHE v Arsenal (Dave) 	 5.25  All Stars v Reading (Brian)
    2.55  Omlettes v Chelsea (Brian)	 5.40  DBHNHE v Tottenham (Dave)
    3.10  Millwall v Tottenham (Brian)	 5.55  Omlettes v Aldershot (Dave)
    3.25  Reading v Aldershot (Dave)	 6.10  3rd/4th Play-off (Brian)
    3.40  The Dutch v Arsenal (Dave)	 6.25  Final (Dave)


    Teams and Players
    =================
    
    Arsenal           Tottenham          Chelsea            Millwall
    
    Mike McCabe(c)    Antony Ferraro(c)  Lawrence Jolly(c)  Gary Waite(c)
    Tony Bush         John Springall     Jeff Nagle         John Wood   
    Mike O'Hagan      Adrian Pattison    Paul James         Jason Pratt 
    Barry O'Hagan     Jim Fairbairn      Andy Barefield     Julian Keetch 
    Andy Mitchell     Jon Kane           Mick Barnes        Adrian Keetch
    Mike Saxton       Pete Thomas        Stuart Bunyard
    David Strage      Stephen Craig      Paul Munson 
    
    "The Omlettes"    Aldershot          All Star 1
    
    Stuart Panes(c)   Ben Stone(c)       Grahame Ash
    John Hawes        Peter Ashton       David Shores
    Sean Winter       Peter Hutchison    Paul Moore
    Paul Hennigan     Peter Horton       Neil O'Reilly
    Paul Liv'stone    Paul Cosgrove      Neil Cossey
    Dave Ashton       Matthew Weller    
    Richard Skeil     Brian Jarman
    Ian Charles
                                                       
    The Dutch         Reading            D.B.H.N.H.E.
    
    Ton Jansen(c)     Tony Absolom       Greg Davies
    Harold Teuwen     Tarik Sadat        Vince Money 
    Robin Huisman     Simon Trinder      Juan Villegas
    Han Aawater       Jeff Kirkpatrick   Steve Thompson
    Gerard Herder     Andy Lainsbury     ?
    Ron Hehemann
    Ton van Woerkom
    
        
    Rules
    =====

    1.  The winners will buy the first round of drinks in the pub 
    after the tournament!

    2.  Ten teams will be split into two leagues (1 and 2).  Each team 
    will play all the other teams in their league - four league games 
    for each team.  

    3.  Each game will consist of two halves of 6 minutes duration 
    (i.e. total game length of 12 minutes).  The half-time interval 
    will be the time it takes the teams to change ends and no more.

    4.  Teams will be awarded 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a 
    scoring draw, 1 point for a no score draw and 0 points for a 
    defeat.  League positions will be based upon highest number of 
    points. 

    5.  In the event of two teams tying for first (or any other) 
    place, by virtue of having the same number of points, the final 
    league positions will be decided using the following criteria:
    	 
    	 a) largest number of wins, if equal then
    	 b) result of individual match, if a draw then
    	 c) highest number of goals scored, if equal then
    	 d) goal difference.
    	 
    If two teams are still tied for first place then the league 
    winners will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - they will play 
    until one of the teams scores.  That team will then be declared 
    the winner of the league.  A similar procedure will operate if the 
    2nd and 3rd places are tied.  If other places are tied, the teams 
    will finish either joint 3rd or 4th in the league.

    In the event of three or more teams tying for first place...Oh 
    bugger it!  Go down the pub early!

    6.  The winning team from each league will contest the final and 
    the second placed teams will contest the 3rd/4th play-off match.  

    If at the end of the final the score is tied, the tournament 
    winner will be decided on a "sudden death" basis - first team to 
    score wins the tournament.  

    If at the end of the 3rd/4th play-off the scores are tied, both 
    teams will share 3rd place. 

    7.  The tournament winners will be presented with a (very) small 
    trophy which they will keep until the next Football Noters' 
    tournament.   

    8.  Each squad can consist of a maximum of eight players.  Each 
    player will be required to pay a three pound registration fee to 
    participate in the tournament.  The money will be used to pay for 
    the pitch and buy a trophy.  Any surplus will be donated to 
    charity.  (Monies to be collected by the team captains and a 
    cheque sent and made payable to Mike McCabe with a list of 
    players.  Money to be sent by 3rd June, please.  The Dutch team 
    can pay on the day.)

    Players must be either Digital employees or contractors working 
    for Digital and must read or contribute to the Football Notes
    conference.

    9.  A maximum of two substitutes can be used once per game.  The 
    referee must be informed before a substitution is made. 

    10. The goalkeeper can be changed once per game, at half-time, 
    unless injury prevents him from continuing.  In which case he can 
    be substituted at anytime.  The referee must be informed of the 
    change or substitution before it happens.

    It is essential for goalkeepers to be distinguishable from other
    players by wearing a different shirt.

    11. A player who receives two bookings or is sent off will be 
    excluded from any further matches in the tournament.

    12. If the ball is played above head height an indirect free-kick 
    will be awarded to the opposing team at the place the ball was
    kicked.  (Also see 17.)  

    If the goalkeeper makes a save which results in the ball going
    above head height and the ball is still in play then a goalkick
    will be awarded.

    Other accidental deflections above head height will be decided by 
    the referee on an individual basis.  

    13. After a goal has been scored play will be re-started by the 
    goalkeeper passing the ball out.  No other player is allowed to
    touch the ball until the goalkeeper has kicked it.

    14. If the ball goes out over the side-lines, play will be
    re-started with an underarm throw.

    15. The pitch has two "D-shaped" goal areas.  The only players
    permitted within these areas are the goalkeepers.  Goalkeepers
    are not allowed to leave their respective goal areas.  If a
    goalkeeper leaves his goal area a penalty will be awarded to the
    attacking team.  

    If an attacking player enters the goal area a free kick will be
    given to the defending team.  If a defending player enters the
    goal area a penalty will be awarded to the attacking team.

    16. Games will kick-off at the appointed time.  

    In the event of neither team being available at the appointed 
    kick-off time, for a league game, the referee will wait two 
    minutes and if neither team is still available the game will be 
    declared void and neither team will get any points.

    In the event of one team (ALL five players) being unavailable at 
    the appointed kick-off time, the referee will wait two minutes for 
    that team to arrive.  If they do not then the team on the pitch 
    will be awarded the game with a score of 3-0. 

    17.  At all "set pieces" all defenders must be at least 3 feet 
    from the free-kick.  

    If an offence occurs less than 3 feet from the "D", then the kick
    shall be taken 3 feet from the "D".

    18.  PLEASE NOTE THE REFEREE'S DECISION IS FINAL EVEN IF HE IS
    CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY WRONG!   


    MAP
    ===
    
    If your coming, by car, from Basingstoke or London (M4 J10), when 
    you get to Reading follow the signs for Caversham.  Once you get 
    to the centre of Reading you should pick up the signs for the 
    Rivermead (white wording on a brown background).  Just before 
    Caversham Bridge there is a sign pointing you towards the 
    Rivermead down Richfield Avenue.  The Rivermead is about 400 yards 
    down on the right-hand side.
    
    If your coming by train the station is about 10-15 minutes walk 
    from the Rivermead.
    
    If your coming any other way, your on your own!  I do have a map 
    of the centre of Reading which details all the main roads, 
    station, etc.  It's available upon request.
    
    The following is a rough 2DE map of the relevant landmarks, 
    needless to say it is not to scale.
    
                                                |    |+----+The Crown
                                                |    |+----+
                                                |    +------
         +---------+   Calendars    Three Men  /     /------
         |Rivermead|    +------+    in a Boat /     /+---+Pipers
         |         |    |      |       +--+  /     / +---+
         +---------+    +------+       +--+ /     /
       ------------------------------------/     / Caversham Bridge
              Richfield Avenue                  /
       -----------------------------------+    |
          +--------+       +--------+     |    |
          | Casino |       |Mercedes|     |    |Caversham
          |        |       |  Benz  |     |    |  Road
          +--------+       +--------+     |    |
                                          /   /
                                         /   /
                              Caversham /   /    +-------+
                                Road   /   /     |Station|
                                      /   /      +-------+
                                         ------------
                                         Tudor Road
                                        -------------
    
    Facilities at the Rivermead include a swimming pool, squash 
    courts, snooker tables, etc and a reasonably priced snack bar.  
    Typical prices are:
    
    	 - Jacket Potato with Cheese - 1.65
    	 - Steak and Kidney Pie - 1.10  
    	 - Chips - 0.65
    	 - Coffee - 0.50
    
    If anyone wants/has to bring the wife/girlfriend and they get 
    bored they can go on a river trip of the Thames from Caversham 
    Bridge.  Also, if you have to bring any kids there is a big 
    Adventure Playground next to the sportscentre.
    
    I'm sure we're all looking forward to meeting each other and 
    having an enjoyable day (and evening!) out.  Finally, let's hope 
    the weather is kind to us.  Look forward to seeing you all on 
    Saturday. 
    
    Mike M
    
    
    

rep -1

We'll thank Mike on Saturday!!!!!


One question is still open for the Dutch, a good pup (ie cheap beer and
beautiful women :-)) that will have a TV set tuned on Anglia for the game
on Friday (according to Dutch TV guides the game is on Anglia instead
of the BBC)

To make thing exiting we changed our line-up one more time, here it is:

Ton Jansen
Han Aawater
Vincent Zegers
Robin Huisman
Harold Teuwen
Ron Hehemann

manager/coach Ton van Woerkom

T_

      <<< Note 203.134 by UTROP1::JANSEN "another girl another planet" >>>

>>The Dutch tema sre staying at Russell Court Hotel aka Oakleigh Court Hotel,
>>27 Russell Street, Reading. Is this near to the ground???

>>can somebody give us info how to get there or is somebody willing to pick us
>>up saturday morning??


>>T_


The Dutch are ready to roll (eeuuh well I'm the only one present right now haha)
and will leave the beautiful city of Utrecht in about an hour.

If anyone wants to have a beer with us give us a call at the hotel around 
six o'clock tonight, if not we'll see ya on Saturday.

Any volunteers for picking us up????


T_

    
    	Have we got a prediction topic for this tournament yet?

    
    
                    PREDICTIONS FOR THE NOTERS TOURNAMENT
                                1992..
    
    
                               GROUP 1.
    
                   THE DUTCH  3   V    DBHNHE    0
                   ARSENAL    3   V    MILLWALL  1
                   THE DUTCH  1   V    TOTTENHAM 0
                   DBHNHE     0   V    ARSENAL   2
                   MILLWALL   1   V    TOTTENHAM 2
                   THE DUTCH  1   V    ARSENAL   0
                   DBHNHE     0   V    MILLWALL  2
                   ARSENAL    1   V    TOTTENHAM 0
                   THE DUTCH  2   V    MILLWALL  0
                   DBHNHE     0   V    TOTTENHAM 3
    
    
                               LEAGUE TABLE..
    
                               THE DUTCH
                               ARSENAL
                               TOTTENHAM
                               MILLWALL
                               DBHNHE
    
    
                                GROUP 2...
    
    
                      ALL STARS  1  V   OMLETTES  1
                      CHELSEA    3  V   READING   0
                      ALL STARS  2  V   ALDERSHOT 0
                      OMLETTES   1  V   CHELSEA   1
                      READING    0  V   ALDERSHOT 1
                      ALL STARS  1  V   CHELSEA   2
                      OMLETTES   2  V   READING   0
                      CHELSEA    2  V   ALDERSHOT 0
                      ALL STARS  2  V   READING   0
                      OMLETTES   1  V   ALDRESHOT 0
    
    
    
                                 LEAGUE TABLE..
    
                                 CHELSEA 
                                 OMLETTES
                                 ALL STARS
                                 ALDERSHOT
                                 READING
    
    
                        3rd AND 4th PLACE PLAY OFF'S
    
                        OMLETTES  0   V    ARSENAL   2
    
                        NOTERS TOURNAMENT 1992 FINAL..
    
                        CHELSEA   1   V    THE DUTCH 0
    
    
                        CHELSEA:: NOTERS TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS 1992
      

                   <<< Note 203.149 by PEKING::BAREFIELDA >>>
                               -< PREDICTIONS.. >-

    
    
   Aren't the games a bit low scoring?


   Stuart

    Stuart,
    
    If any of us could score goals, we'd be playing in Malmo!!
    
    Besides scoring isn't really a British tradition is it??  It's just not
    cricket!!
    
    
    PJ

RE 149

Andy,  re rule 1 

You better bring your flexible friend!!

Attenadee's 65

45 lagers
19 bitters
1 babycham (Mike Mccabe)


antony

It has been reported that Project Tycoon Mr Micheal McCabe aged 
93 has disappeared from his personal terminal anchored off the 
North West floor of Enterprise House, London. 

Sources close to the Ealing magnate deny allegations that McCabe 
may have attempted suicide by throwing himself into a cup of 
carbonated water. This comes soon after an inquiry launched into 
the financial dealings of McCabe PLC which suggests that certain 
Noters Tournament funds may have been diverted into an off shore 
Arsenal Bond account. 

Many noters stand to lose personal fortunes in the suspected 
fraud and once such group, The Chelsea Pensioners Funds refused 
to comment on grounds of imbecility. Witnesses claim that McCabe 
and "Sinister" Stuart Panes of South London were seen involved in 
a heated arguement over the ownership of a car coat only hours 
before McCabe's disappearence. Local cleaners have been called in 
and will conduct a massive search of the area after their fag 
break. 

****************************************************************
TURN TO PAGE THREE FOR YOUR CHANCE TO WIN �50,000 IN SCUM BONGO!
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Latest reports say that Mr McCabe(funny name for a englishman) was last spotted 
forcing his Arsenal "Gold" Bond card into one of the coffee machines on the 6th 
floor before disappearing off to hock the trophy at local pawnbrokers. 

It is believed that Mike will use the money to fuel his hitherto secret romance 
with Princess Diana and rumours are surfacing that her suicide attempt and 
breaking down the other day was due to Mike's insistance that he would be at the  
tournament Saturday rather than making one of their secret rendevous.

I think I better lie down now.

antony 

    Well, what can I say about .154 and .155, it's all true and will be
    appearing in the Sunday Sport on, errr ummm, would you believe Sunday.  
    As a matter of fact I did pop over to the travel agency to enquire of 
    retirement in the Bahamas, but once the travel operative realised how 
    much money I had she quickly pointed me to the day trips to Bognor 
    section.  Ah, well.
    
    As for me and Di, yep I've had to elbow her this Saturday.  Until the
    Noters' Tournament cropped up I was planning to take her out for a
    quite little meal in a restaurant I know.  What with Charlie being a
    fussy eater it's the only chance she gets for a bit of pork.  Likes
    having a bit of pork does Di.  She quite likes stuffing too.
    
    Mike M 

On behalf of all the Dutch players I would like to thank Mike, Antony and
all the others for making it a wonderful day and evening and we hope to
be back next year and win the bloody trophee :-)

Also I would like to suggest you ask the manager of the pup to change
the name from Tree man and a boat into two girls and one man in the
back of a Dutch Vauxhall Astra :-)

T_

    So what happened ???

    
    	Sounds like Ton scored....
    
    	8-)

    FINAL:      Millwall  3 - 0  Reading
    
    3/4:        Aldershot 2 - 3  Dutch
    
    Results and league tables to follow.
    
    Mike M

Mike,

just one thing, next time tell me in advance you've got a referee that can
speak and understand Dutch, so I can keep my big mouth shut. If everything
I wished him would come true we had to come back this week to attend a
funeral :-)

T_

ps BTW I would love to come back :-) :-)

  <<< Note 203.159 by TRUCKS::SANT "lurching from disaster to apocalypse.." >>>

    
>>    	Sounds like Ton scored....
    
>>    	8-)


Yep, I first took the defence apart and banged it right trough the middle :-)

T_ 

    
    Congratulations to Mike and Anthony on a really well organised tourney
    and a good day/night out.
    
    Even if we did lose to the Totts
    
    Andy

    re -.161
hullo Ton,

Ik schrijf geen goede Nederlandse, maar ik kon heel goed begrijpen
wat je tegen me hebben gezegt! Ik vond het geen probleem - hoe noem 
je dat in Hollandse "wie is de w***** in schwart?"

Tot volgende keer.... ;-)
dt

                     <<< Note 203.164 by IOSG::TYLDESLEY >>>
                             -< van Breukelen II >-

>>    re -.161
>>hullo Ton,

>>Ik schrijf geen goede Nederlandse, maar ik kon heel goed begrijpen
>>wat je tegen me hebben gezegt! Ik vond het geen probleem - hoe noem 
>>je dat in Hollandse "wie is de w***** in schwart?"

>>Tot volgende keer.... ;-)
>>dt


DT,

I think your Dutch is very good. In Holland we call a ref that makes mistakes
a Hondelul. Thanks for being a ref, it's a difficult job and you did ok!

Well be there next year for sure!!!!

T_

I expected the Millwall team to be all over this topic but I haven't seen
anything yet, don't you guys wanne rub it in!!!!


T_

             <<< Note 203.167 by YUPPY::PANES "Urbane guerilla" >>>
                             -< -2 dogs willy???? >-

Stuart,

You hit in right on the top :-)


T_

    	 The Dutch v DBHNHE	       5-1			      
    	 All Stars v Omlettes  	       3-2 
    	 Arsenal v Millwall            0-7 
    	 Chelsea v Reading     	       0-1 
    	 The Dutch v Tottenham         1-0 
    	 All Stars v Aldershot 	       1-1 
    	 DBHNHE v Arsenal      	       1-2
    	 Omlettes v Chelsea	       3-2 
    	 Millwall v Tottenham  	       2-2 
    	 Reading v Aldershot           6-1 
    	 The Dutch v Arsenal   	       8-1
    	 All Stars v Chelsea	       1-2
    	 DBHNHE v Millwall	       1-8
    	 Omlettes v Reading	       0-1
    	 Arsenal v Tottenham	       1-4
    	 Chelsea v Aldershot	       1-2
    	 The Dutch v Millwall	       0-2
    	 All Stars v Reading	       0-2
    	 DBHNHE v Tottenham	       1-1
    	 Omlettes v Aldershot	       1-2
    
    
    	 LEAGUE 1
    
    	                     P    W    D    L    F    A    PTS
         Millwall            4    3    1    0   19    3     14
    	 The Dutch           4    3    0    1   14    4     12
         Tottenham           4    1    2    1    8    4      8
         Arsenal             4    1    0    3    4   20      4
         DBHNHE              4    0    1    3    4   16      2
    
    
         LEAGUE 2   
         
    	                     P    W    D    L    F    A    PTS
    	 Reading             4    4    0    0   10    1     16
    	 Aldershot           4    2    1    1    6    9     10
         All Stars           4    1    1    2    5    7      6
         Omlettes            4    1    0    3    6    8      4
         Chelsea             4    1    0    3    5    7      4 
          
    	 
    	 3rd/4th Play-off:
    	 Aldershot v The Dutch	       2-3			      
    
    	 Final:
         Millwall v Reading	       3-0
    
    
    The Story 
     
    
    LEAGUE 1
    
    The Dutch kicked off the tournament in fine style with a 5-1 win 
    over the Drunken Beer Heads.  Arsenal were then trounced 7-0 by 
    Millwall the eventual winners of the tournament.  Tottenham had 
    some close games but when it really mattered they couldn't put the 
    ball in the net against Millwall and The Dutch.
    
    As the tournament progressed The Dutch and Millwall looked the 
    form sides.  With each team having played three games The Dutch 
    and Millwall had 12 and 10 points respectively.  Which meant that 
    their final game, between themselves, took on the role of a 
    semi-final.  If The Dutch won or drew they would be in the final, 
    whilst nothing less than a victory would do for Millwall.  
    
    However, before this game kicked-off the big North London clash 
    took place.  A throughily unscrupulous and devious Tottenham team 
    managed to sneak a lucky 4-1 win over a valiant Arsenal side who 
    were missing a couple of key players! :-)
    
    The Dutch v Millwall game was goalless at half-time.  In the 
    second-half Millwall's strength began to tell and they eventually 
    ran out 2-0 winners.  Thus putting themselves in the final with 
    The Dutch being consigned to the 3rd/4th play off.
    
    
    LEAGUE 2
    
    The first game in League 2 saw the All Stars edge past the 
    Omelettes 3-2.  Reading then beat Chelsea 1-0.  The All Stars then 
    got a point in a close 1-1 draw with Aldershot and were begining 
    to look the favourites to proceed to the final.
    
    In some quarters Chelsea were considered to be the pre-tournament 
    favourites.  However, when they went down 3-2 to their second defeat, 
    to the Omlettes, they were virtually out of it.
    
    Reading then trounced Aldershot 6-1 and when they beat the 
    Omlettes 1-0 they had won three games out of three and were in the 
    final.  
    
    The final game in League 2, Omlettes v Aldershot, decided who 
    would go into the 3rd/4th play off game.  Aldershot eventually 
    managed to win a close encounter, 2-1, and thus went on to face 
    The Dutch. 
    
    
    3rd/4th
    The Dutch always seemed to have that little bit extra which was 
    enough to see them win a close game, 3-2.
    
    
    Final
    By virtue of their one hundred percent tournament record Reading 
    went into the final as slight favourites.  However, on the day, it 
    wasn't to be and Millwall powered past them to win 3-0.
    
    
    Mike M   
    
    

rep -1

Mike,

I'm sorry but we scored a goal against Millwall, we made it 1-0 and then they
were all over us scoring two goals so the result should be:


The Dutch 1  Millwall 2


T_

    ...but the real question is who got the most carpet burns (from the
    astroturf - not the astravan)
    
    Me, Ive got 3
    
    PH

    
    I have four. One either side of my arse. One on my right knee
    and the fourth on my left elbow.
    
    Its the sand. They don't have to put so much down.
    
    JN.

                     <<< Note 203.172 by PEKING::NAGLEJ >>>

    
>>    I have four. One either side of my arse. One on my right knee
>>    and the fourth on my left elbow.
    
>>    Its the sand. They don't have to put so much down.
    
>>    JN.


JN,

have been playing football in a gay bar?

T_ :-)

    Not a blooming dicky-bird from Andy Barefield about his hilarious
    predictions on the tournament. 
    
    Chelsea? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!
    
    Tony

It's just because Ton got his nurse friend to look after his, and his skid 
marks Saturday night.

My right leg looks like its been attacked by one of those wire cheese cutters.

antony

                    <<< Note 203.175 by LARVAE::FERRARO_A >>>
                              -< Saturday night >-

>>It's just because Ton got his nurse friend to look after his, and his skid 
>>marks Saturday night.

>>My right leg looks like its been attacked by one of those wire cheese cutters.

>>antony

Antony,

she did a great job :-)

I feel like being 17 again :-) :-)

T_

    I think mention should be made of a particularly remarkable feat
    achieved by Arsenal this weekend.  
    
    Games played:	4		(Total minutes: 48 minutes )
    Goals Allowed:	20
    
    Average length of time between goals allowed:  2 minutes 24 seconds!! 
                                                   _____________________
    
    
    At least we were first in at least one category!!
    
    
    PJ  (Who needs a skin graft on his left shin as soon as he finishes
    	 picking all the sand out of the wound)
    	

      * Dave Tyldesley and Brian House for all the reffing.  
      * Everyone who turned up to play and watch, particularly The Dutch.
      * All the teams for being on the pitch at their appointed kick-off
        times.  
      * The people who brought footballs, bibs, whistles, etc.
      
    And a personal thank you from me to the Dutch team for the shirt, I
    will treasure it.
    
    Mike M
    
    P.S. Ton, apologies for not recording your goal against Millwall.
     

    In the end 52 people paid their three quid which meant we ended up with
    156 pounds.  The pitch cost 105 pounds and the trophy cost 25,
    obviously leaving 26 pounds.  In the Three Men and a Boat this was then 
    donated to that well known charity called 'kitty'.  
    
    Mike M

rep -1

Mike,

no problem about the goal we lost anyway :-)

One good advise don't wear your Holland shirt when Holland play England in the
semi's, you might get the same treatment we got at Froggies.

T_

Mike/Antony/Lawrence,

How about picking a game next season together, let's say Chelsea vs Spurs
or Arsenal??

T_

   I would like to echo the sentiments expressed earlier, and thank Mike
   and Antony for a very enjoyable, well organised day.  I was a little
   disappointed that I only saw Mike in his football kit and not his , now
   legendary car coat, also despite featuring a Limparesque hairstyle the
   Astroturf denied him the opportunity display the Limpar roll.

   On am more personal note, I would like to apologise for the loud mouth git
   in the Carter T-shirt who spouted abuse at the refs, and regret deeply
   the missed opportunity of going grogging afterwards to prove that Palace
   fans "really can sherbet".

   Stuart


   BTW What happened to the M.U.F.C and L.F.C teams??

    
    I would like to point out that Rule One of the competition was broken
    in that Millwall did not buy the first round of drinks in the pub
    afterwards.
    
    Given this flagrant breach of the rules, I think it only fair that the
    trophy be passed to the runners-up.
    
    Not that I've got any vested interest in this, of course.
    
    jeff

    
    re: what happened to the MUFC and LFC teams
    
    stuart,
    well, what can i say, i didnt think there'd be much point me trying to
    organise a Liverpool team WITHOUT our star striker, The Great Cunno.
    
    Ian.
    
    p.s stuart, did you score?
    
        
    

           <<< Note 203.184 by KERNEL::HAWLEYI "We're not worthy!" >>>
                           -< no cunno, no comment >-
>    Ian.
    
>    p.s stuart, did you score?
 

Alas and alack , not!  (neither on , nor later off the pitch ).


Stuart   
        
    

    RE 180
    
    The goal was dissallowed by the ref cos the Dutch bloke went in the
    area.  Also we beat Reading 4 - 0 in the final but whose counting.

    Cheats.
    
    Tony

       <<< Note 203.187 by SUBURB::ABSOLOMT "Millwall played a ringer" >>>

>>    Cheats.
    
>>    Tony


HEAR HEAR

    
    re. 181
    
    I'm game.
    
    Mike, thanks again for an excellent day/evening.  It was good to meet
    so many of the participants from this conference, if it comes off again
    I hope some of the "northerners" can make it, if the Dutch can they
    have no excuse,
    
    Loz.

    Reasons why Reading should be awarded the trophy:
    
    1) As said earlier, Millwall did not buy the drinks.
    2) They didn't have flashy matching shirts.
    3) Only one of them actually supports them.
    4) 'No one likes them'
    5) I'm a bad loser.
    
    
    Andy.

      <<< Note 203.190 by SUBURB::LAINSBURYA "I couldn't believe it !" >>>
                          -< Can't take the defeat. >-

>>    Reasons why Reading should be awarded the trophy:
    
>>    1) As said earlier, Millwall did not buy the drinks.
>>    2) They didn't have flashy matching shirts.
>>    3) Only one of them actually supports them.
>>    4) 'No one likes them'
>>    5) I'm a bad loser.
    
    
>>    Andy.

More reasons, but then for The Dutch:

1) We had to make the longest journey
2) We had very flashy matching shirts
3) We didn't drank beer during the Tournament
4) The Reading girls liked us best
5) The Reading nurses told us we had the best bodies they had ever seen

Ton

Re point 4 and 5

I believe you honest...

Anyone know how many hospitals there are in Reading and what they are called.

antony

    Do i detect sour grapes here.

    
    Ton,
    
    I think you'll find when they said they were nurses they omitted to
    tell you that they were in fact psychiatric nurses doing some fieldwork
    and the bit about your bodies was, well, just humouring you.
    
    Sorry,
    
    Mr Spoilsport

    Thanks to Mike and Anthony for organsing the tournament.  We didn't
    have a ringer and I offered to buy the drinks.
    
    Cheers
    Gary

    
    � Do i detect sour grapes here.
    
    Listen, I don't need to defend our complete failure even to get a shot
    on target in the final, why do I need to defend that? I feel like I'm
    on trial here, we had lads out there with no experience of anything and
    we did our best and yet we know all we're going to get is this bloody 
    criticism. Ok, so we crap, miserable, pathetic but that's not my fault
    and if anyone says it is I'll have them in court quicker than Jack
    Charlton can say Ruud Gullit.
    
    Not Graham Taylor.

          <<< Note 203.194 by SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY "Who hell he?!?" >>>

    
>>    Ton,
    
>>    I think you'll find when they said they were nurses they omitted to
>>    tell you that they were in fact psychiatric nurses doing some fieldwork
>>    and the bit about your bodies was, well, just humouring you.
    
>>    Sorry,
    
>>    Mr Spoilsport


Really???? Well doesn't matter that much 'cause when you were sleeping on
your mine was still bumping up and down :-) :-) :-)

T_

Hi everybody,

reading everthing about the noters tournament I'm really sorry that I didn't
reacted on the spot to subscribe a Belgian team.The bells rung to late and 
already 10 teams were subscribed.
If there will be a next edition I will do my best to bring 1 (or more??) teams 
to Britain (if you allow us).
What really suprised me were the high scores.We usually played every year a
resembland tournament in Geneva and there the most common scores were 0-0 and
1-0.I must say that 1/2 of the teams were Italians but still. Or your defences
were weak or it should have been a high class tournament.
Anyway, congratulations to all and for the winners, it's a shame you didn't
bought the bears.

Patrick

rep -1

Patrick,

the reason there were so many goals are two:

1) the goal-keepers were crap :-)
2) the goal were 1 meter high but 6 meters long!!!!


T_

PS hope you can make it next year, it will be an unforgetable adventure.

PPS I hope to be back in august/september to give Antony's team a wipe-out :-)

Well I think David Stage's(Arsenal team) Franz Klammer go faster goggles win 
the trendiest item from the tournament, sorry Holland, your kit came a close 
second. 

Ton, we've already started training. Lift two three four, drink two three 
four. 

antony

    antony,
    
    What about the psycadelic pink cycle shorts beneath the speckled black
    swimming trunks??
    
    Besides, the goggles were only to protect me from wonton, Boli-style
    head-butts from skill-less Totts!!  
    
    
    		:-), :-)		   8-), 8-)
    
    Smiles (without goggles)     	(with goggles)
    
    
    PJ
    
    P.S.  That's STRAGE
    
                       

                    <<< Note 203.200 by LARVAE::FERRARO_A >>>
                             -< Football fashion >-

>>Well I think David Stage's(Arsenal team) Franz Klammer go faster goggles win 
>>the trendiest item from the tournament, sorry Holland, your kit came a close 
>>second. 

>>Ton, we've already started training. Lift two three four, drink two three 
>>four. 

>>antony

Antony,

Youj must be joking, we looked the smartest and you not even got a change to
see our reserve kit, wich we wanted to wear in the finals :-)

You keep on training and drink lots a beer so in august/september you'll
be too knackered to play football and enjoy beautiful women :-)

T_

    I resent the comment about the goalkeepers being crap - I feel Scottish
    would be a more accurate description :-)
    
    Jim.

Antony,

I've got two sets of dates for a possible Dutch footy trip to Portsmouth,
3 september till 6 september or 10 september till 13 september.

Can you check out wich date is better for you guys (check Andy Mitchell 
also, he probably could bring the Basing Albion team) and let me now
asap so I can start gattering a team together.

I think it will be a problem getting 11 players together so we might have
to skip to 6 or 7 a side.


T_

ps any luck yet with those numbers???

Ton,

I reckon the second weekend is best. I'm sure we can tailor the event to 
whatever we need to whether it be 5,6,7 or 11aside games. I reckon though that 
if you got six/seven players we could make a team up for you.

I'm in Basingstoke/Reading tomorrow so will get the hospital telephone numbers 
and try for you tomorrow. If I can't get the details it's time to get the 
Reading contingent mobilised to spend some time in the 3 men and a boat.

antony

                       <<< Note 203.205 by YUPPY::CSFB >>>
                               -< Portsmouth 92 >-

>>Ton,

Antony,

>>I reckon the second weekend is best. I'm sure we can tailor the event to 
>>whatever we need to whether it be 5,6,7 or 11aside games. I reckon though that 
>>if you got six/seven players we could make a team up for you.

I'll start working on it with as a confirmed date 10 september till 13 september
You'll probably want to play on the saturday so that would be the 12th, with
a little luck I can get six or seven and we take it from there.

>>I'm in Basingstoke/Reading tomorrow so will get the hospital telephone numbers 
>>and try for you tomorrow. If I can't get the details it's time to get the 
>>Reading contingent mobilised to spend some time in the 3 men and a boat.

Great, you might want to talk to Lawrence before ringing 'cause he seemed to
know the exact hospital we are looking for! (at least he though he did).

>>antony

T_

rep -2

Antony,

Any luck yet?????

T_

    Ton,
    
    Are you getting desparate.....or just lonely!!!
    
    8-), 8-)
    PJ

    <<< Note 203.208 by YUPPY::STRAGED "Toto...this sure ain't Kansas!!" >>>
                        -< Was it really that good??? >-

>>    Ton,
    
>>    Are you getting desparate.....or just lonely!!!
    
>>    8-), 8-)
>>    PJ

Nah, just inpatience and keeping you guys awake :-)


T_

Ton,

I got the telephone number for the Royal Berkshire hospital in Reading. I 
phoned and they would not give me any details of nurses names. I suggest the 
next alternative is to get the Reading contingent to get down this weekend 
to the boozer we were in Saturday and keep their eyes out for the young ladies 
in question.

Sorry mate no luck.

How were the celebrations after last nights destruction of Germany? How is the 
Portsouth weekend going, only one problem is I might have to change the dates to 
the week before as we are starting our league season on the second week in 
September. I've spoken to Andy Mitchell and he's keen to get a team together as 
is Mike McCabe.

Have a good weekend.

Antony

    
    Re numerous notes,
    
    Despite all of us have an interest in the continuing saga of Ton's
    Sex life, I don't think this is the appropriate place to discuss it.
    
    Gary.
    
    PS Any anyone who says I'm just jealous.......:-) 

rep -2

Antony,

Fanx for trying, about the weekend you can still change it but if you want to,
do it fast. So far I've got two players but after Reading a lot of people are
keen on  going (I also past on your words that Portsmouth is better than
Reading).

I'll try to plan the trip for four days ie leaving Holland on Thuersday and
going back on Sunday, so if neccecary we could even play on the Friday.

About last last night, after the game we went into Utrecht, al bars, pups etc
were loaded and everybody was singing and cheering and we all are confident
of winning the title now.

rep -1

Gary,

who said sex, as Antony can tell you we were only intrested in their brains
and talked about playing chess all night.

T_

Belated thanks to the tournament organisers for a good day last Saturday.
It was good to meet some old & new faces.

Thanks also to Gary for letting me play for Millwall. I don't
know about us playing a ringer: a (Queens Park) Ranger, yes!


As a member of Basing Albion I'm interested in the Portsmouth tournament.
However, after last September's experience of playing, (~at least attempting
to play),two 90-minute games consecutively, I'd suggest the organisers consider
making the games an hour or less if they want a 3-4 team tornament. I'm not
keen on playing a knock-out over two days: - a one-day, 5-8 a-side tournament
sounds better to me.

But then who asked me anyway? ;-)

John Wood; Basing Albion, Queens Park Rangers and Millwall

    
    hi everyone... I have just arrived at work today after drowning my
    sorrows for well over a week... DBHNHE were probably the most unlucky
    team in the competition... we had 3 players 2 minutes before the start
    of our first game, the conditions wern't right etc etc etc blah blah 
    
    Anyway... Thanx to Mike for a great day out and we can only hope that
    by next years tourney we might be sober:-):-):-)
    
    Greg...

    Ton
    
    Having enjoyed playing (Tottenham) & drinking with you, I'm keen to
    organise an International tour from the Midlands. I've got a casual
    team (11 aside) that would like to visit you one weekend in
    September/October please. We would arrive by coach Saturday morning
    play a match in the afternoon and then enjoy ourselves!
    
    Stay in a hotel Sunday night in order to recover!
    
    What do you think?
    
    John

rep -1

John,

sounds find but it will have to be october as the Dutch are sailing
to Portsmouth in September to take on a team from Antony Ferraro
and our old rivals the Basing Albion.

I'll phone you somewhere this week to see what arragements we can make.

Cheers,

T_

rep -2

John,

It think we are going to encounter some problems 'cause playing on a
full-size pitch on a Saturday is nearly impossible, on Saturday and Sunday
all pitches are in use by amateur teams so that would put us on a Friday
but then another problem occurse, people here don't have that many free
days left so it will be a lot of trouble getting eleven players.

Are you really keen on comming this year or can you hold till april next year?,
'cause then Antony & Andy will be over with their teams and we could make it
a four team Annual Grolsch Tournament.

You could also check with Antony for comming september when we will come
down to Portsmouth to play.

Let me now what you think.

T_

    Next April sounds as though it would be the best bet.
    
    Is there any truth in the rumour that Reading are sending a team of
    nurses over?
    
    Best Wishes from the Birmingham All-stars International Tour 1993
    organiser !!!**$#$#^%!!!!