Conference trucks::football;1

Our (incomplete) French League results so far:
(I'll try to post the whole thing as soon as possible) 

        Teams & results				Scorers for Paris
        ---------------                         -----------------

	Bordeaux  1-0   Paris SG	        None
	Paris SG  2-1   Lille			Ginola (2 penaltys)
	Paris SG  2-0   Caen			Bravo (+), Ginola 
	Marseille 1-0   Paris SG		None
	Paris SG  4-0   Auxerre (*)             Weah, LeGuen (+), Ginola, ?

	[Somewhere in-between]
	A win at Cannes and one at Lyon
	A 1-1 tie at Angers 
	A 1-1 home tie with Montpellier (?)

	Paris SG  0-0	Le Havre		None
	Lille     0-2   Paris SG                ?, Gravelaine (his 1st)
	Paris SG  1-0   St Etienne		Weah
	Sochaux   1-2   Paris SG	       	Rai, Gravelaine

Next: Jan 14 vs. Marseille

	Eric

(+) Denotes our bests goals so far
(*) Denotes our best game so far

Our European results so far: (That is, this year's Cup Winners' cup...)

1st round:					Scorers for Paris

	Nicosie  0-1 Paris SG	        	Sassus
	Paris SG 2-0 Nicosie	           	Gravelaine, ?

2nd round:
	Paris SG 4-0 Craiova 			Valdo, ???
        Craiova  0-2 Paris SG			Guerin, ?

Next Round : March vs. Real Madrid  (Game 1 at Madrid, Game 2 at Paris)

Of course, I can't refrain from mentioning that last year, we already beat 
Real Madrid out of UEFA cup (3-1 for them at Madrid, 4-1 for us at Paris).
It was one of the best 2-game series I have ever seen

	Eric

The Almighty-Powers-That-Be at 'France Football' have enlighted us again with
their great wisdom. This time, it's French League Awards:

Team of the Year 	: 	Paris SG (who else ?)

Player of the Year	: 	David Ginola (of Paris SG)
                                Paul LeGuen ties at 2nd with Martins, Boli and
				Pedros. 

Foreign player of the	: 	Allen B�ksic of Marseille deserves it.
Year                            Valdo is 2nd, Scifo & Verlaat tie for third.

Coach of the Year	: 	Luis Fernandez of Cannes. He is a former Paris
				player. (Otherwise, nothing for us)

Newcomer 		: 	Zidane of Bordeaux (Fully deserved)

Game of the Year        :	Paris SG 4-1 Real Madrid. 'Nuff said

Best moment		:	Boli's goal. Marseille 1-0 AC Milan

Our last award		: 	Worst Team Executive, to Michel Denisot.

	Eric

Paris SG 1 - 1 Marseille

Gu�rin 10'      V�ller 13'

Crowd : 48 000 (Sold out, had to watch on TV 8-()
Player of the game: Sonny Anderson (Marseille)

An overall average game in which Marseille deservedly came up with a tie 
(Anyway, still better than last year's carnage...).

Marseille had the early opportunities, but we surprisingly scored first. 
A good goal on a Weah-to-Ginola-to-Guerin play. However, Marseille quickly 
closed the gap by V�ller on an Anderson pass.

After that, we were unable to move them, the few sparks coming from Gu�rin, 
Weah and Valdo while Rai and Ginola were obviously not at their best. 
Even after Marseille's Angloma was (logically) red-carded and Gravelaine 
entered the game for us, we were not able to do much. A last minute goal by 
Bravo was cancelled for a foul by Ricardo on Marseille's keeper, Barthez.

Marseille seemed Ok with the tie, while Paris seemed Ok with maintaining the 
4-point lead, so it remained at 1-1.

Eric.

    Caen 0 - 2 Paris SG
    		
    		Ginola 12'
    		Le Guen 80'
    
    A good result since we were on the road while Marseille was at home and we
    did not let them gain ground on us.
    
    First goal came on a long pass from Fournier that found Ginola
    unguarded at the 2nd post.
    
    At 0-1, Caen hit the post twice and Lama had 2 decisive stops. If we
    are to win this thing, a lot of credit will go to him for the high # of
    close games he kept us in.
    
    With 10 min left to play, a strong shot by LeGuen was deflected by a 
    defender and made it 0-2.
    
    So, Marseille has 3 of their next 4 on the road, so we'd better take
    some breathing room before March, when we'll play Euro Cup again.
    
    Gravelaine started against his former team in place of the injured
    Weah.
    
    Eric

	Paris-SG   3-0   Angers

        Guerin (x2)
	Ginola

	Crowd in the 20,000s

	Last-place Angers provided little opposition and that allowed us to
produce a few good movements, mostly involving Ginola, Gravelaine and Rai.

Gravelaine, starting his 2nd consecutive game in place of Weah just missed
the "Mexican Hat shot". He passed the ball above his defender, got it back
behind the defender's back and fired a volley......... on the left post 8-(

#2 Goalie Luc Borelli played his first official game for Paris in place of Lama
who had to undergo surgery for his nose. Ricardo also missed the game.

All in all, since Marseille was only able to tie 0-0 at St Etienne, not a bad
day for us. The lead is now 5 points

	Eric.
	 

    General Tickets for Euro Cup � Final vs Real Madrid will be on sale
    tomorrow. (game is March 15th)
    
    Phone reservations are 44 26 41 41
    
    Eric
    
    (let me know if anybody is interested in going)

    Just a quick note from yesterday's game
    
    	Montpellier 0-0 Paris SG
    
    We were solid, but not spectacular, as often when needing a result.
    
    Oh well, if that's what it takes to be Champions... 8-(
    
    Both Lama and Ricardo were playing this time, and Valdo had a good game
    according to L'Equipe. 
    
    Marseille beats Toulouse so our lead is 4 points again.
    
    Cup game at small CS Avion this Saturday. Should be an easy one. Let's
    not waste efforts  before the Series with Real Madrid. 
    
    Eric 
    
    

Saw hightlights of the Marsaille game and all the 'foreign' players were excellent

'Pixie' Stoikov played and scored twice, Anderson got two and Bogossian the other.

Anderson is only 23 and I reckon better than even Boksic or Papin!!

Before Stoikov got injured a few years ago he was absolutely semsational. If he
gets back to his old form I wouldn't be surprised if Marsaille keep winning, but
I don't think they'll catch PSG, unless PSG lose to Real and go on a downer.

Salut,

Nick

Cup 1/16:	CS Avion   1-4   Paris SG  (ot)
		   ?             Bravo, Ginola, Weah, Calderaro

Crowd: 20 000 at Lens' Felix Bollaert

Congrats to Avion who pushed us to overtime, led 1-0 at halftime and gave 
us a good scare.

We were very bad during 1st half and Avion logically scored a superb 1st
goal. Then Coach Jorge woke up the boys and we rapidly tied but were unable to
qualify during regulation.

CS Avion cracked physically during the overtime, all 3 goals were scored in a
10-minute span.

Nothing to be proud about for us, but at least we're through, and congrats
again to Avion who played a 'Once in a lifetime' game. 

Eric
	

	Paris-SG 0-0 Lyon    Attendance: 25 000

	Another sub-average performance by the boys. Hope this is not getting
	a bad habit.

	Lyon could have won the game if their forwards had been able to direct
	their shots away from Lama. By the way, Lama perfectly made the 2 or 3 
	tough stops he had to do, especially from Abedi Pele.

	Our main scoring chances (only 3 :-() were a header by Weah, a cross 
	from Ginola that Weah couldn't kick in from 5 yards (as he was guarded 
	by Amoros...) and a strong free kick by LeGuen that bounced twice in
	front of Olmeta before hitting the diving goalie's nose.

	Breath of oxygen came from Bordeaux on Sunday night, where the 
	Girondins beat Marseille 1-0. Only watched 2nd half, but it didn't look 
	too good.

	At Auxerre on Thursday, before being off to Madrid for Showdown with 
	Real.

	Eric

	Auxerre 0-0 Paris SG

	An half-decent game, and much of the credit goes to Guy Roux's boys.
	Despite their efforts, only a few scoring opportunities were seen.
        Auxerre hit the post once through (Vahirua). Martins had a good
	game too, and I wonder why he doesn't play in Team France, since we 
	haven't had an above-average #10 since guys named Platini and Giresse
	handled the controls. But I digress...

	Our defence proved solid as usual, while the offense clearly
	showed its current limits (except for Ginola, and Valdo had a much
	better game than vs Lyon). Actually, that's our 3rd straight 0-0, so 
	the previous sentence is quite an understatement.

	About the Madrid game, Le Guen will be suspended, and one of the 4
	"foreigners" will have to be benched. I think George Weah will
	be the one, since Jorge's confidence in Rai doesn't show any signs
	of wear. Considering Gravelaine will be fit, and we're more likely
	too see action at midfield than upfront, perhaps the best option.

	So, most likely lineup for Madrid game is:

	1 - Lama			6 - Fournier
	2 - Sassus                      7 - Rai
	3 - Colleter                    8 - Guerin
	4 - Ricardo                     9 - Gravelaine
	5 - Roche                      10 - Valdo
                                       11 - Ginola

	Eric

Well, now it's our turn to show what we're made of, and it's tonight 
at Santiago Barnabeu.

Watched Real on Sunday vs Tenerife. They wasted a high number of chances, 
were caught by a fast break goal by Derticia (sp) and tied by Michel.
Centre forward Zamorano doesn't exactly look like the second coming of Marco 
Van Basten. Their midfield include Hierro and Michel, which appear to be the 
backbone of the team. I think Chendo will (try to) guard Ginola.

Reasons for hope:

	. our unmatched ability to turn perilious road games into boring 0-0's

	. solid midfield and defense. Roche and Ricardo should be able to take
	care of business. Valdo and Guerin at midfield aren't too bad either,	 
	not forgetting keeper Bernard Lama. We've only allowed _ONE_ goal in 6 
	league games in 1994, and _NONE_ in 4 Euro Cup games so far.

        . If needing to eat up the clock, we can either:
		. pass the ball to Valdo who will ease up the pressure with his
		dribbling and passing skills.
		. pass the ball to Ginola, who will get fouled immediately,
		thus causing a 3-min argument around the Ref. 8-) 

Weak points:

	. Euro cup is all that Real has left to hold on to. So motivation will
	not be a problem for them

	. our tendancy to allow goals in the closing minutes of big games
	(twice vs Real last year, and once vs Juventus)
	
	. the 100,000+ hostile crowd will put pressure on both ref & defense,
	but if we can survive first 15 min, then hope is permitted...

	Eric                                        

	Real Madrid	0-1	Paris SG
				
				  Weah 32'

Definite show of strength by the gang. A bit lucky at times, but, oh boy, what
a game...

First suprise came in the form of George Weah starting. He was supposed to add 
punch to the offense, and did he...

First 15 min were all Madrid's. We had touble locking up the wings especially
from Michel and Luis Enrique. A header from Zamorano hit the post. Then, the
storm quieted. 20, then 25 minutes, and Ginola made a strong shot from 25 yards.
After 30 minutes, Vadlo intercepted a pass, sent to Ginola who left two
defenders on his way to a perfect cross to George Weah. Up 1-0, and history was
in the making.

3 minutes before halftime, Sanchis shot from 10 yards after a corner kick, and
Colleter saved just before (or was it just after ??) the line. 1-0 at half, so
far, so good...

Another strong pressure during first 20 minutes of 2nd half, but we escaped
unharmed as Lama, Ricardo and Roche all did a good job. Then, things began to 
balance. The Guerin-LLacer-Fournier defensive midfield picked a high number of
loose balls and Valdo was magnificient again. With a little bit of realism/luck, 
we could have sealed Real's coffin but Weah, Ginola and Valdo all missed...

Real didn't seem to believe anymore at the end as Michel gradually faded.
    
We escape with an 1-0 win that opens up the way to the semis...

Eric 

    Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Looks like we learnt the lesson flast year!
    
    Gojob, well done
    
    Le gavroche masque -
    JF

Welcome on board, JF

I was feeling a bit lonely here, so even a Boulogne Boy is a worthy addition :)

Oh yeah, to anyone intersted,  yesterday's game...

	Paris SG 	2-2  	Martigues

	Rai 46'                 Bouquet 35'
	Guerin 47'              Tholot 85'


Let the excuses roll...

. We were too tired from Madrid's game
. We are far too superior to bother playing good football vs 18th place teams
. Pitch was in bad shape due to France-England rugby, giving an edge to
	poorly-skilled side
. Their 1st goal came on a Lama error
. Their 2nd goal should have been cancelled as somebody stepped on Lama's hand
   
etc, etc...

    Hey,
    
    I am NOT a Boulogne Boy. I am a non-affiliated Auteuil Rouge die-hard.
    Watched seasons 1983 to 1990 almost non-stop, the magic of Susic, the
    wild touch of Toko (remember Sofia?), the stupidity of so many, the
    great days of Luis etc.
    
    Best game: Paris SG-Nantes, THE FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nearly fainted twice, Susic's best game.
    
    But as everybody knows, I am at heart a Rennes fan, although I was born
    in Paris.
    
    Ah well...
    
    �JF?

JF, 

	Sorry about that, but how was I to know it was you since you wrote 
	under the DONVAN::IDC_USER secret identity ???

	I myself go to Blue Section of "J" stand. There's a club of supporters
	called 'Hoolicool' there but I'm no member...

	Yes, a few great memories like our first (and so far only...) Title in
	1986. Bats, Fernandez, Susic, Rocheteau. And a young coach named Gerard
	Houillier who started a brilliant career that would eventually lead him
	to Team France and............ Oh well, whatever, Never mind.......... 

	Eric

	Ps: One last info is that Rai is supposed to be gaining confidence
	after his goal on Sunday. He his due to put on his 1st decent game for 
	the club any day now, 6 months after his arrival...

	RC Lens		1-2	Paris SG

	Omam-Biyik 55'		Ricardo 52'
				Llacer	80'

	Att: 41,000

	Great !! Lens was the hottest team of the moment and they could not 
	prevent us from making a decisive step torwards the title, as Marseille
	drew 1-1 in Strasbourg.

	The team hesitated between a full-strike offence to set up the Madrid 
	game of tomorrow and a defensive formation but all was well in the 
	end...

	let's pass this Real Madrid test, and get ready to rewrite the
	History books...

	Eric 

    Let drop a few names....
    
    As you might already know my team is Lyon... but I will always remember
    one of the first PSG team to play in the first division under Just
    Fontaine...
    
    I was at Gerland when  players like Pantelic, Dogliani, Floch,
    Dahleb,etc. were playing the game the way it is supposed to be played.
    
    I recall a game in Lyon where Lyon (Dinallo, Lacombe, Baeza, Ravier,
    Felix( took a commanding 3-1 lead... only to lose 3-4. The last 20
    minutes of the game were a display of one-touch football like I ever
    saw a team play... away from home. Pantelic was wearing the goalie
    jersey but actually played like a sweeper and he is game was lethal! 
    Dogliani and Delofre in the midfield wrere creative geniuses.
    
    Jacques

A bit nostalgic, Jacques , huh ??

	Have not known the guys you're talking about, since I'm probably too
	young (hope that does not make a Gary-Waite-class brat of me :-)), but
	I think the current group of Valdo-Rai-Le Guen-Weah-Gravelaine-Ginola
	can definitely put on good plays when they fancy it (which is seldom).

	Anyway, back to the present, 2 events as far as a I'm concerned today:

	. We meet Real Madrid at home for Game 2 of Cup Winner's cup Semi.
	I predict Paris 1-0 or a 0-0, in either case a violent and most
	unentertaining game.

	. I'm out of DEC (that is as a contract worker, so don't worry about it)
        Thanks for this notesfile and I hope all your teams will do fine in the
	future (as long as they don't meet PSG)

	Eric
	

    
    Cup's Cup result:
    
    Paris SG - Real Madrid  1-1   Paris qualified
    
    After missing two obvious sitters, Paris got a goal which obliged them
    to drive the match differently and attack. Many occasions missed, until
    the equalizer in the second half, by Ricardo.
    The last minutes were very difficult, with the Real attacking and the 
    Paris defence incredibly jamming its football. 
    
    Fortunately, they eventually kept the draw.
    
    The Real eliminated 2 years consecutively is however, not that bad.
    Hope Monaco will win tonight.
    
    
    PYV
    

    
    Exactly like in the French Championship, Paris SG had again a lot of
    trouble to win at home, with a 1-1 versus Arsenal, in the Cup's Cup
    semi.
    
    Wright scored in the first half, while Ginola replied in the second
    half. The same Ginola declared that "PSG has been c**p".
    However, in quarter final, PSG also did 1-1 at home versus Real Madrid,
    to qualify anyway. 
    
    Pierre-Yves
    

    
    As I feared after the last bad matches of PSG, PSG has not been able 
    to go trough, despite a very good football. They dominated the match 
    90 % of the time, sometimes very near to score.
    However, they demonstrated again, alike the last matches in the
    championship, their present inability to score, versus a solid, but
    not brilliant side.
    
    Some other facts could also explain this (unexpected) elimination:
    - The fact to have played away first
      As seen in the championship, PSG has been far better away than at
      home. Versus Arsenal, they have been obliged to dominate the two
      games, which they are not good to.
    - The rain. The Paris play is made of short, rapid passes. This kind
      of gain has been considerably disturbed by the continuous rain.
    
      Anyway, no excuses.. they had the means to easily pass this turn, and
      they did not take the opportunity. Then, they did not deserve to go 
      to the final. 
    
      On regret: Mr George (Weah) was not even on the bench, Rai (who did
      not show anything), and Gravelaine (who entered 12 th minutes from
      the end) being prefered by the other Mr George (Artur). I think that
      Weah would have much more seriously shakened the Arsenal defense.
    
      Good luck the Arse.
    
      PYV 
    

Unlucky to PSV, they did play well last night, and were unlucky to lose. However,
I think they were fortunate to draw the home leg, so it evened out.

I don't understand why you think it's harder for a passing side to play on
wet grounds... it's easier to play short snappy passes on a flat wet pitch!

Actually, if I were you I'd sack your groundsman... PSV would win more 
home games, if they had a decent pitch!

Norman

    re -2
    
    I certainly agree that PSG played well last night, but I can't see how
    you can make out that they dominated the first game. Apart from a good
    spell at the start of both halves, Arsenal were much the better side
    and were unfortunate not to win the match comfortably.
    
    When PSG drew Arsenal they were delighted. They seemed to think they
    only had to show up to win. I can only suggest that this was their
    ignorance of English soccer and its clubs.
    
    Declan

    I'm sure you mean PSG and NOT PSV in -2.

    PSG/PSV Yeah, sorry... it's just that I prefer to go Dutch ;-)

     
    -25 and followers
    
    1. In the first leg, Paris had a territorial domination, but Arsenal
       had the best chances to score.
    
    2. When you are used to play with short passes in the ground, it's much
       more difficult to play the same game when it's very wet and
       slippery, and when the ball's speed is not the same.
       It has been blatant seeing Ginola who seemed "lost" under this rain.
       However, as I mentioned earlier, I don't invoke this as an excuse.
    
    3. True that PSG was glad to meet Arsenal instead of Parma or Benfica.
       This probably unconsciously made some players think that the game
       was played before showing...
       As for the lack of knowledge of English football, it's certainly
       true, but we can also argue the opposite. When Merson and Wright
       were asked by the press which PSG players were the most dangerous,
       they were unable to mention a single name. Ginola ? Who ? 
       I would also mention that the English's cup final is shown live in
       French TV channel whereas no English channel would even think of giving
       the French Cup's final.
    
       Pierre-Yves
    
     
    
    
     

Pierre-Yves,

Nice to get some chat across the channel... makes a change from English
supporters baiting each other, over the relative merits of their teams ;-)

Re: passing in the rain. The best teams adapt to whatever the weather is. I 
actually think PSG played better in the second leg because they are a good 
passing side, and wet surfaces help that. They also realised that Arsenal were
better than they had originally thought, so raised their game.

As far as Wright & Merson not knowing any French players... I don't think
that is so important. What was important was the fact that George Graham, the
Arsenal manager, *did* know the PSG players, and planned Arsenal's tactics
accordingly; conversely, I don't think the PSG manager knew enough about 
Arsenal, and got it wrong (in the first leg). Another problem that PSG had, in
my opinion, is that they only play a few hard games a season... so are not
used to coming up against tough opponents, all the time... which is pretty much
the case in the English top league. English teams rarely underestimate their
opponents.

As for the English FA cup final... I believe it is shown all around the world,
as it is seen as a prestigious event... Wembley, and all that stuff. Maybe French
football hasn't got the same appeal, worldwide? I'm not sure what point you 
were trying to make? but if the French cup final was shown in England, I would
watch it! Anyway, PSG should be in the European Cup next year, after winning
the French league. Good luck!

Norman

    
    Norman,
    
    Thanks for the interest you have in the French Football.
    
    First, I have to say that I am not a PSG fan (AS Monaco and overall 
    OGC Nice). I know a bit Arsenal, as I have a good friend in London,
    who gave me the opportunity to see several matches at Highbury (some
    years ago though).  
    
    About the match, I dunno if the result is based on the lack of knowledge 
    of English football, because  I would be very surprised if Artur George 
    (who is Portuguese and a great football theorician) did 'nt know  
    English football.
    
    I agree with you when you say that PSG is not (yet ?) a great team,
    and not able to adapt to the weather. 
    They are leading the championship because they used to have a very 
    solid defense (which is no more the case for 1 month: lost 3-0 versus
    Nantes, suffered a lot in the Cup versus a 3rd div. team, etc...)
    They won many matches 1-0, rarely producing a nice football and often
    scoring after a free kick or corner.  
    As for the opposition, the above shows that they often had a tough 
    opposition in the championship, but managed to draw or win 1-0.
    
    Anyway, they did not deserved to be qualified, having much less
    fighting spirit that Arsenal, despite (IMO) a better potential.
    
    Pierre-Yves
    
       
    

    
    Paris confirmed its present bad shape by loosing at home in the 
    Cup's quarter final versus Lens  1-2
    
    PYV

    If somebody plans to listen to the Champions' Cup draw (I know the
    Glagow Rangers are also involved), could he let us know if he happens
    to hear who Paris SG will be facing...
    
    
    Thanks in advance,
    		Eric

    Paris SG has drawn Hugary champions (forgot their name) in the
    Champions' Cup 1st round.
    
    	Game 1 in Paris 	Aug 10th
    	Game 2 in Hungary       Aug 24th
    
    The winner will end up in a group with Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow
    	and the winner of Dynamo Kiev-forgot who.
    
    Overall, 'not too bad a draw' would be quite an understatement  =:^)
    
    Let's hope we don't scr*w it up big time and that we will still be
    playing European football in March...
    
    	Eric

    Eric,
    
    When is the national championship starting ?
    Will PSG have enough matches in their legs by Aug 10th ?
    
    Thanks, Thierry

>>    When is the national championship starting ?
    
    Next weekend (jul. 29th), I believe. there's a Bordeaux-Nice on tv next
    Thursday.
    
>>    Will PSG have enough matches in their legs by Aug 10th ?
    
    My best guess is that our schedule until then is:
    
    	- july 29	: @ Le Havre
    	- Aug  2	: home vs Sochaux  ???
    	- Aug  5	: @ Somewhere
	
    So that's 3 league games before the Euro Cup...
    
    	Eric

PSG started its 94/95 season with a 0-0 draw at Le Havre this past weekend.

Nothing much to say about this game, except that none of the 3 brazilians was 
playing. Hope at least Valdo & Ricardo will be OK for Euro Cup.

Home opener on Tuesday vs Lens, a chance to get a first glance at Luis 
Fernandez's offensive style. Will see what happens...

Other news from the weekend are :

	D1 Favourite Monaco beaten at home by Metz 1-0
	in D2, Marseille also loses at home vs Le Mans (2-3)

Eric

    
    Does anyone know the kick-off time for this evening's game?
    
    Steve.
    

    >> Does anyone know the kick-off time for this evening's game?
    
     8.00 pm                   
    
        do you plan to go ???
    
Eric

    
    Maybe, depends on whether I escape from Evry in time. I am due to meet
    some friends at 19:30 - 20:00 in the belief that the kick-off was
    20:30...
    
    Steve. 
    

I'm glad this notesfile provides me with an opportunity to tell the Whole World
how much PSG's tickets office s*cks. What a bunch of sh*th**ds !!!

40 minutes queuing couldn't bring me a ticket for yesterday's game, despite 
the Park being only 1/2 full. Cashiers apparently had more important stuff
to do than to help or inform customers. 

Sooner or later, as they do every year, team management is going to complain 
about lack of fan support/enthusiasm/money. Well, forget it, boys... 

I mean, get a grip on reality, You're obviously not getting anywhere...

  
Eric

Oh yeah, the game...

	Paris SG 1-0 Lens 
	
	Nouma 40'
	(The guy who's playing for Valdo)


Bordeaux is in 1st place after two 1-0 wins, Monaco has lost their first 2.

    
    Got to the stadium in time, but didn't get in, along with about 5,000
    others!
    
    Apparently, only 25,000 tickets were printed and there is no simple
    pay-at-the-turstile facility as in the U.K. (???)
    
    Anyway, the highlights I saw on T.V. looked fairly grim and I've got
    some money to spend on beer now.
    
    Steve.
    

Did Marseille play too? If so, what was the result and was DeWolf better 
this time?

Regards,
Jo

	>> Did Marseille play too? If so, what was the result and was DeWolf 
    	>> better this time?

	Yeah, they did. Won 2-1 vs St Brieuc (I think). We're gonna have to 
	learn to mention teams like St Brieuc and Marseille in the same 
	sentence.

	Don't really know how DeWolf fared. At least, he hasn't been benched
	like Casoni has. The Irish may be interested in Tony Cascarino scoring
	a penalty for Marseille.

	Eric

    re: .45
    
	>Don't really know how DeWolf fared. At least, he hasn't been benched
	>like Casoni has. The Irish may be interested in Tony Cascarino scoring
	>a penalty for Marseille.
    
    I didn't know you were allowed to take penalties with your head...
    
    Dom

	RC Strasbourg 	2-0	Paris SG       

	Leboeuf (pen)
	Gravelaine

	Paris wins the red-card contest, however: 2-nil.

	Considering recent performances, bad things were bound to happen.

	So far, PSG new-look offense has produced the grand total of 1 goal in 
	3 games. I can't help wondering what it would be if we had decided to 
	play defensive 8-(
	
	Still neither Valdo nor Ricardo. Doing better on Weds in the Euro Cup
	is a must.

	4-way tie in first place (Bordeaux, Nantes, Lyon, Cannes). Montpellier
	last with 3 losses in as many games.

	D2: Marseille won 2-0, Cascarino scoring again (with his feet, 
	Mr Dom Turner, can you imagine that ??? 8-))

	Eric

    .36
    
    Thanks Eric... yes it's a bit late but I am just returning from vacations.
    
    How was the first EURO round ?
    
    Thierry

    
    
    Paris Saint Germain 3 - VAC 0
    Ricardo
    Weah
    Roche

	Paris SG 	3 - 0	FC Vac

	Ricardo 30'
	Weah    48'
	Roche   83'

   What a difference Valdo & Ricardo can make.

   Poor first 25 mins, not too exciting football, we were getting a bit worried

   A typical PSG goal occured after 30 mins, a Valdo free kick from the right,
   Ricardo heads it home... 1-0 and more confidence leading to some interesting 
   moves.

   Just after the break, a good run by Ginola on the left wing (he was quite 
   sharp yesterday), sends a cross to Weah whose spectacular diving header 
   makes it 2-0.

   Colleter redcarded after 75 mins but Vac was gradually fading. Another PSG
   trademark goal (header after a free kick) courtesy of Alain Roche ends the 
   scoring at 3-0.

   Should be enough to see us trough.

  	Eric

   Ps: did anybody see Weah's "foul" on the Hungarian keeper ? How did it look 
   on tv ?

	Paris SG 	1-1 	FC Sochaux

	Ginola (pen)		A guy from Sochaux

	Very poor game. Sochaux tied it in the closing minutes.

	2 important games coming, at Nantes and home to Monaco. A loss at
	Nantes could put Luis Fernandez's job in jeopardy 5 games into
	the season. Must be some kind of record 8-( 

	The Nantes - Paris game is live on Canal+ on Friday night, 8.30 pm.

	Eric

	FC Nantes 	1 - 0 	Paris SG
	
	Loko 18'


	At least we were involved in something pretty. Loko's goal may be the 
	best of the season so far. AERIAL 1-2 with Pedros, and he volleys it
	into the net.

	Strong point is that we were able to put a strong pressure on Nantes'
	goal after that, weak point is that our ineptness at finishing showed
	again...

	Where does this leave us ? .... 15th place 8-(


	Eric

    
    Yes, I've seen that goal about four times over the weekend and it's the
    best I've seen in a long time. I don't think the ball touched the
    ground following the throw-in...
    
    Steve.

    Did anyone see the article in Monday's L'Equipe about Fernandez ..
    and PSG's poor start to the season ?!?
    
    Ray

    I did not, but a summary would be nice...
    
    Eric

    FC Vac 	1-2	Paris SG
    
    Kule 		Mboma (x2)
    
    As Jf stated elsewhere, Paris SG qualified (rather easily, but I'm not 
    neutral) for Champions League
    
    In case you are interested, Mboma comes from Chateauroux (Michel Denisot's
    other club). It was his 1st game with the flag team this year.
    
    Ginola, Weah, Valdo, Ricardo and LeGuen were all rested for Saturday's
    game vs Monaco. (All the Monaco fans in this note should be scaring
    at this only thought 8-)
    
                          Eric

    Wasn't M'Boma on loan to Chateauroux last year? Like Nouma in Caen?
    
    Bayern is not in good shape: kicked out of the German Cup by an amateur
    side (literally) and lost 5:1 to Freiburg last Saturday. even worse,
    Djipipi (Papin) was sent off! The bench is looming...
    
    Good stuff for PSG.
    
    �JF?

>>    Wasn't M'Boma on loan to Chateauroux last year? Like Nouma in Caen?
    
	Definitely. At least, it's what L'Equipe says...

    Sep 14	Paris St-Germain    	-v-	Bayern Munich
    Sep 28	Spartak Moscow		-v-	Paris St-Germain
    Oct 19	Dynamo Kiev 		-v-	Paris St-Germain    
    Nov  2      Paris St-Germain    	-v- 	Dynamo Kiev
    Nov 23	Bayern Munich 		-v-	Paris St-Germain    
    Dec	7 	Paris St-Germain    	-v- 	Spartak Moscow
    
    Eric

    
	Paris SG	1-0 	AS Monaco

	Weah 51'

	Too bad I couldn't go cause it looked quite good on TeleFoot.

	Paris is looking better by the minute (at least that's what Fernandez
	thinks...). Anyway, 11th place is still nothing to write home about, but 
	I'm confident we can bring points back from Bastia by midweek.
	
	Eric

    Paris SG	3 - 0 	Fc Metz
    
    Colleter 7'
    Ricardo  31'
    Rai      88'
    
    World beware, we're starting to look like defending champions...
    
    Paris rested 4 starters versus a weak Metz team and netted its 4rth
    straight win. They also played some nice offensive football...
    
    Big business on Wednesday night with Bayern Munich coming to town for
    Champions League; Chances that Papin will play for them are getting
    thinner... Any Germans having some fresh news ?
    
    Eric
    

	Paris SG	2-0 	Bayern Munich

	Weah 	40'
	Bravo 	80'

	We did not miss our first Champions League game.

	Shaky start with a very nervous defense, then things settled.
	But as usual, we had to wait for a corner kick to score. Valdo
	puts it in the box, Ricardo pressures a defender who heads the football
	on his on crossbar and Weah puts the bouncer home. Weah had just miss 
	a great shot a few minutes before, so it was fine.

	Not really impressed by our way of protecting a 1-0 lead, especially 
	Lama who has to realise he cannot dribble like Maradona. But Bayern
	didn't show too many lifesigns whatsoever.

	10 minutes to the end, another Valdo corner is weakly cleared by the 
	German defense and Bravo sends a perfect volley shot from 20 yards.

		Well done PSG...	

			Eric

	Lyon 	2-0 	Paris SG

	Debbah 55'                        Att: 40,000
	Paille 90'

	Unfortunately, this loss to Lyon is mostly logical...

	Ricardo missing, Dieng redcadred after 24 mins, Colleter & Lama offer
	Lyon their 1st goal, ref not awarding Weah a penalty... 
	Quite a lot to overcome...

	So, Tigana wins the duel of the "Former members of the World's Greatest 
	Midfield turned coaches" vs Fernandez.
	
	PSG is 7 points out of first place.

		Eric

    Eric,
    
    thank you for your thought... you are right; I am the one sitting in
    his basement who screamed YEEEEEES when I saw you reply!
    
    And StEtienne got trashed by Nantes. What a week-end ! ;-)
    
    Jacques

    
    re 64
    
	Jacques,

	Lyon beating both PSG and St Etienne in the same week would be 
	quite a bitter pill to swallow for me... So, let's hope Les Verts make
	mincemeat out of you  =8^)

	Nevertheless, I think Lyon has a good shot at an EuroCup spot this
	year. Especially with 4 places available and Marseille out of the 
	picture.

	To set up things for St Etienne-Lyon, an extract from a Laurent Blanc
	interview (St Etienne Team Captain):

	Q: So, Laurent, you've just been trashed 3-0 by Nantes. Could you tell
	us what your thoughts are ?

	A: Yeah, obviously not brilliant but who cares ? It's the game vs Lyon 
	that counts !!!

		Eric

    I suppose that's what he said after the Israel game?
    
    Sigh... Why use one of the best French men in the air as a sweeper? He
    is a donkey in that position IMO.
    
    Jacquet is no better.
    
    LUIS FOR FRANCE!
    
    /JF

re 66
    
>>    Sigh... Why use one of the best French men in the air as a sweeper? He
>>    is a donkey in that position IMO.
    
	Agreed JF, 
    
    	Let Alain Roche do the business, he's the next Franco Baresi.
    	Boli besides him will do fine.
    
    	PS: just heard that Wenger (former Monaco coach) could be working a
    	deal with Inter Milan. Any truth ?
    
    		Eric
    

    Don't know about Wenger.
    Re. last's personal name: If Ricardo (Paris SG's Brazilian star
    defender) was granted French citizenship he would not be eligible to
    play for France as he already played for Brazil. I agree he is the best
    defender in France today, no question.
    
    About Boli I understand Jacquet does not like him at all. But take any
    sweeper, he'd be better than Blanc, like Lebeuf from Strasbourg.
    
    My 2 ff.
    �JF? 

    
    No worries, Jacques !
    
    With Blanc in the center of the St Etienne defense, Lyon is quite sure
    to score several times.
    
    PYV

    
    Champions league:
    
         PSG - Barcelona   2:1
    
      A tremendous match, with both teams doing their best to attack along
    the match, and many, many goal occasions. Ginola and Stoichkov were 
    outstanding. 
    Barca had an early occasion with Stoichkov very close to score. 
    This was followed by an incredible batch of PSG's occasions, with 
    not less than 2 bars and a post in the first half (PSG hit 5 times 
    the bar or post + 1 with Weah offside).
    Barcelona took the lead at the beginning of the second half, with a 
    beautiful header from Bakero, on a free kick. 
    Paris then was obliged to attack and attack again with Ginola driving.
    Ginola hit again the bar. On the other hand, the Barca's
    counter-offensives were extremely dangerous, specially when Lama 
    superbly saved a 2:0 ball from Hagi.
    17 minutes left, and I did'nt believe anymore in the PSG's chances 
    when Rai put the ball home, on a Valdo free kick. Since this moment,
    the Barca declined, while fernandez pushed his players to continue to
    push. 10 minutes later, Guerin placed the ball in the net from 20
    meters, giving the qualification to the PSG.
      What a match !
      Both teams had their chances.
    
      
      Well, PSG will play versus Milan AC in the semis.
      I guess that if PSG eliminates also Milan, after Barcelona, some 
      noters who have forgotten them in their first 10 rankings will 
      make a pathetic revision.
    
      PYV
        
    
      
    

    Both teams played well last night. But PSG were awesome. I've seen them
    now against Barca and Boring Munich and both times they looked 
    the team Sheffield Wednesday should always have been - I dont know what
    went wrong there :^)
    
    I won't be surprised if they (PSG) become the champions of Europe.
    
    Al.

    
    
     Yep, one of the better live matches this season. Both teams played
    some cracking football with PSG deservedly going through. Best players
    were Ginola, Weah, Bakero and the Barca centre-half (can't remember his
    name).
    
     Hopefully we'll get a PSG v Ajax final, that would be a cracker.
    
      Danny.

    Does one detect a hint of bad feeling in the last sentence of .70?
    
    Stuart

    
    re: -1  "Bad" feeling is a bit exagerated. I would say amazed.
            Explanation:
            First, although being French, I am not a PSG supporter. 
            However, I am often surprised to notice that the image of
            French Clubs abroad is not the one it should do.
    
            Example: some Club recently defeated 4:0 by the Barca and 
                     not particularly brilliant in Europe these last years
                     is higher ranked than the PSG among a significant number 
                     of noters.
             
            PYV
             
              

    re: .74
    Well, I wouldnt worry about it too much. PSG are certainly proving this
    year that they're one of the best teams in Europe - if not the best.
    One of the top football magazines (I can't remember which) actually has
    them in pole position in their league table of world teams, though I
    don't recall the criteria they used.
    
    The noters who rated MUFC above PSG (what's with all these acronyms?!)
    were from various parts of the globe...but not Britain. Put it down to
    unfamiliarity with PSG - they've yet to win a European trophy.
    Moreover, French teams in the past have always promised a lot, but
    failed to deliver the goods. My mind goes back to St. Etienne in the
    70s, who outclassed Bayern Munich in a European Cup Final, but lost
    1-0.
    
    This year could be the one...
    
    Dom

Re .-1 - Good stuff. Pierre - keep it coming!

Just to agree with .-*, excellent PSG performance last night. I'll have to go 
back and read all of JF's praise of Weah - he was right. He's hardly been seen 
on British TV, so it was a surprise to me how good he is. What does the panel 
think - better than Shearer, nearly as good as Van Basten?!

grahame

I have seen yesterday: Goeteborg - Bayern Munich and PSG - Barcelona,
and the best scenes of the other two teams.

PSG - Barca has been an interesting game, one of the good sort this year,

Bayern had much luck getting no goal in the fist half, have a brave fight,
not more.
Goeteborg was not the lucky team this evening.

Milan played such as in Austria against Salzburg, not to much, only to reach
the next round.

Ajax playes like that Ajax, I have seen last year - to look Ajax' football
fills me with enthusiasm.

Therefore the final will be in Vienna again, I'll wish this final:

Ajax Amsterdam - PSG 

If it is be Ajax - Milan , it would be hard for the Austrian spectators.
Austria Salzburg has lost the group with both teams in the last match.

Heribert

    
    Weah is an excellant player and he's probably a better all-round player
    than both Van Basten and Shearer...but (no not goal!!) he's a different
    player in terms of what the team expects of him. His finishing is not
    as sharp as Van Basten's or Shearer's but his jumping/heading ability
    plus his power and drive/control on the ball make the Liberian a much more
    balanced player.
    	Let's put it this way...he broaden the scope of PSG's game plan
    significantly in Europe which is a very big advantage. 
    
    
    Got to admit...I think I'll raise PSG up a notch in my top 10. Also,
    based on Odense's stout and brave performance against Parma re-inforces
    to me that Real Madrid (lost to Odense in the 3rd round) may be the ones 
    to watch next Year.
    
    Well, 8 months of post-World Cup blues and AT LAST there seems to be
    some teams shaping up for the national and European finals. Plus with
    still almost a third of the season to go in the Italian, German and
    Spanish leagues, we certainly have a lot of good football to look
    forward to. The other leagues are fizzling out ; France/Holland/England
    more or less over.
    
    Its amazing how those two games I've seen in the last week have shaken
    the cobwebs of some monotonous games..
    
    Liverpool v Spurs
    PSG v Barcelona.
    
    Dezzz.
    
                                                           
    
	Dezzz.

    
    I must add my congratulations to both teams (PSG, Barca) on last nights
    match.  The attacking approach by both was good to see, and the all
    round entertainment value excellent.
    
    The names have been mentioned already, best player for Barca was Hagi
    (in my opinion), I don't feel Stoicky did much last night.  Best for
    PSG was Gu�rin, with Ginola, Weah, and the others close behind.  All
    round team performance (AGAIN) by PSG.  Don't forget also that they
    played without their regular defensive formation (again), Le Guen,
    played an excellent sweeper role before the Barca goal.  He was then
    pushed forward into his more regular midifeld role, and stayed forward
    even after PSG scored.  PSG kept three at the back from the Barca goal
    onwards.  What am I saying?  Good management!  Don't forget the part
    Luis played in this victory...
    
    Well done PSG...
    
    For myself, I once rated David Ginola one of the best players in
    Europe, I am pleased to see him coming back to real form again.
    
    Ian

    Those of us who are closet Monaco fans remember Weah when he played
    with Hoddle, Hateley and co. in the Province.   Whatever happened
    to Fofana though ???
    
    Ray

    
    Fofana was transferred to Bordeaux, where he spent the last year
    essentially as a substitute. When he played, he was not very effective.
    Not heard about Fofana since the beginning of the season. 
    Seems that his time is passed now.
    
    Another very promising player who never really confirmed. 
    
    PYV

    Watched a bit of their Cup Quarter Final last night on Eurosport....
	
    	Apparently they only had 4 players who played against Barcelona
    playing in this match...now that's strength in depth....
    
    Terrible conditions for football...only reason they continued was to
    help PSG (ie. the French FA)....now that's consideration...
    
    Dezzz.
    

    Are the French media saying anything about a Ginola move to Arsenal
    at the end of the season? One paper over here seems certain that a 
    move will take place after the European Cup. Anybody know how old
    he is too and his preferred position as the same paper claims he is
    a winger which I don't think is true. 
    
    barry.

    
    Ginola had proposals from several Clubs, including Arsenal, Real Madrid
    and a couple of other Italian and Spanish Clubs.
    Of Course, he also had proposals from French Clubs, but he seems not to 
    be willing to play any longer in France as he is booed by all fields
    after his "mistake" for the world cup qualifications.
    
    As far as I remember, he is 28 (I might be wrong, though)
    
    He is NOT a winger. Rather an offensive midfield, game distributor.
    As he likes however to go on the left wing, he might appear as a
    winger.
    
    PYV   
     

    >He is NOT a winger. Rather an offensive midfield, game distributor.
    >As he likes however to go on the left wing, he might appear as a
    >winger.
    
    	Good point. The sign of a good playmaker is one who spots the
    chinks in the other teams armour and reacts accordingly. He absolutely
    roasted Barcelona down the flanks and supplied many telling passes.
    Players in the English game who seem to do this regularly are Anderton,
    Beardsley and McManaman. Strangely enough Sharpe and Giggs will do this 
    (from what I've seen this season) only when Kanchelskis in not playing
    as he tends to stick to the right side. This was apparent in Sunday's
    game.
        The best example of this in Europe is Sammer for Dortmund who
    likes to start games from the back and once the opposition is showing
    its true colours usually carves through defences like a knife through
    butter.
    
    	Anyway, Ginola, yes...I'm sure he'd be another great asset to the
    English game were he to arrive at Highbury. Here's one for the Arsenal
    fans; how many Arsenal wingers (dedicated) can you name since their
    double winning side and how would you rate them in comaparison with
    each other ?
    
    Dezzz. 
    	

    Good note, Dezzz. I rate Sammer highly too, although he infuriates me
    when he play's *too* deep (e.g. against Lazio).
    
    Arsenal wingers? Methinks the names of Petrovic and Marinello are going
    to come in for some stick here...
    
    Dom

    Dezzzz
    
    Are you trying to induce depression into Arsenal fans by making us
    think of halcyon days?
    
    From the late 80's & 90's, Marwood & Limpar were the reasons that we won 
    the league in 88/9 and 90/1. They kept Smith and the defenders in the
    goals by perfect crosses.
    
    I shall think about the ones previous to that. None of them are
    springing to mind other than Geordie Armstrong who seemed to go on
    forever past the Double side.
    
    Petrovic wasn't really a winger was he? Certianly Terry Neill never
    believed he was...Whatever happened to Petrovic after he left Highbury?
    
    Stuart

    
    Exactly my point Stuart....
    
    As I was writing the original note, I thought...now who has really
    stood out since Armstrong...great player...none really...
    
    Dezzz.

    Dezzz,
    
    I've thought about it overnight and I can't come up with anyone who was
    outstanding in the period between Armstrong and Marwood (OK so I didn't
    spend more than 30 seconds on it...).
    
    The basic problem with the club is that the management confused getting
    good cup performances in Europe with the style of football needed to
    win the league in the UK. The defensive performances suit the team when
    they are faced with technically superior players who by and large like
    to play at a slower pace for 2/3 of the pitch, but in the Premiership
    you need to play with pace and be able to mix the long and short
    passing games at the drop of the hat. In fact, one of the most
    impressive Arsenal performances in the year was at Man City when w did
    exactly that and should have won by 7 or 8 instead of 2-1.
    
    The Board *have* to get rid of Stewart Houston and let a new face come
    in to put the club back at the top. Of the current squad, only Seaman,
    Adams, Winterburn, Schwarz, Helder, Parlour, Wright, Hartson and Dickov
    could say that they will be kept at the club. Merson will I think only
    be given another year to prove himself. At present he is flattering to
    deceive - playing 1 good game followed by 3 bad ones. Kiwomya again has
    only one (maybe 2) seasons but his future depends a lot on how Merson
    performs as they are essentially the same type of player. 
    
    All in all, the squad to old and stale. Whoever is appointed next
    season will probably come up with the old "club in transitional phase"
    routine to buy themselves some time and I think they will get breathing
    space as long as the quality of football improves because, even though
    the trophies have carried on rolling in during the last 2 or 3 years,
    the standard of play has been complete and utter b*******.
    
    Stuart

>         <<< Note 179.89 by CHEFS::STRATFORDS "Pass the Babel Fish" >>>
>                -< Sorry but I've go to get this off my chest >-

>    the trophies have carried on rolling in during the last 2 or 3 years,
>    the standard of play has been complete and utter b*******.
    
A bit tactless in the PSG note n'est-ce pas?!

grahame (who can just about remember a season ago)

    grahame,
    
    You're being mischeivious. Taking the quote out of context and you know
    full well that comment related to the league form not the cup form.
    
    Naughty boy.
    
    Stuart

Mischievous, moi? 

g

    PSG got stuffed 3-0 last night by Lille. They are now in 3rd position
    in the league and could be in 4th after some matches today. PSG are 
    far behind the leaders Nantes (Mojo's old club) who have played 30
    league games and haven't lost one yet. (8 games to go).
    
    
    Gordon.

    
    3:0 Are you sure ???
        
    
    Seems to me it was 1:0
    
    But they were defeated anyway by a very average team, Lille (Rijkssel
    for the Flemish), 15 th in the championship.
    Seems that they have definitively given up in the championship.
    
    Il professore Capello was present in the Lille's stadium and must have
    been pleased by the PSG's performance.
    
    PYV
     

    It must have been 1-0, all French games finish 1-0.
    
    Cue, someone from the Pricipality and the start of a 'trou rat'
    
    Peter

    
    "Trou � rat" ?   
    
    By the way, about the Principality, yesterday:
    
    Monaco : 6  - Bordeaux: 3
    
    And also
    
    Le Havre: 2 - Nantes: 3
    
    Can you explain me why 
     -  "se baisser "
     -  and the connection between Principality 
     and trou � rat, which means in French close to nowhere (and not
     rathole) 
    
     PYV
    

    PYV
    
    The reference to the Principality was because I knew the Monaco result
    and expected some reaction. Is Etori (sp) still in goal?
    
    How do you say 'rathole'? 
    
    The 'se baisser' was my best translation of 'duck' meaning get your
    head out of the way before the bullets come flying in.
    
    Maybe I should have put some smiley faces on it.
    
    Peter ;-}
    

    Peter,
    
    Come on.. 
    I am not used to fire bullets like that. I am also a bit provocative, 
    sometimes, for the fun.  
    (However, my English is not good enough to perceive all the subtile 
    meanings display over there.)
    
    Well, Ettori. He retired at the end of the season as goal keeper, and
    was recalled soon to become the Monaco's ... coach, after Wenger was 
    fired. However, he was not successful either.
    
    Rathole... hum... don't remember the French equivalent. Let me check
    
    BTW, Anderson scored 4 times for Monaco. This victory leaves to ASM
    a very slight chance to be European.
    
    PYV (smiling from VBO)
    
    
    
    

    Sorry about the wrong score in the PSG game. I obviously misheard the
    results reported on the radio. Anyway, Lens did not win last night so 
    PSG remain in 3rd position.
    
    Gordon. 

    I read in the "kicker" (German Football Magazine) that PSG want to buy 
    R. Cardoso from SC Freiburg. 
    
    PSG want to sell 3 foreigner (Weah, Valdo, Ricardo) and than there would
    be a place free for him. Coach Fernandez already get videos about
    Cardoso.
    
    Is this true? Can anyone confirm this? 

    
    But I have to admit that the remarks about the few goals scored are
    valid:
    
          Cannes     - Sochaux    0:0
          Caen       - Nice       0:0
          Strasbourg - Lens       0:0
          Metz       - Martigues  0:0
    
    PYV    

    
    RE:101
    
    Did'nt red anything about Cardoso in the French press.
    I would really be surprised by such a venue.
    I am not that sure that "Paris want to sell Weah, Valdo and Ricardo".
    Ricardo is said to leave to get a better contract.
    If Ginola leaves, I am not sure that PSG would release Valdo.
    As for Weah, they want to keep him ! However, they have received 
    incredible proposals from Milan, Juventus and possibly Barcelona for
    him...
    Finally, the one who is the most likely to leave is Rai.
    
    PYV
    
     

    
    Mmm, Rai....well he has always come in for some stick at
    PSG...especially after last season's semi-final against Arsenal...
    Surprised to see him still there at all...
    
    Dezzz. 

    
    Ya, but if you remember, he scored the equilizer against Barca, and
    Fernandez now considers him in the first 11.
    
    PYV
    
    
    

    
    The BIG game tonight versus Milan.
    
    In am NOT confident, and still believe that Milan is favourite.
    If Paris had played at Milan first, it wouls have been different.
    
    Now that PSG has to make the difference at home first, the story is 
    different: in championship, Paris often showed its inability to score
    versus a defending team, with a strong defense. 
    (which was not the Barca's case).
    
    I pronostic a 1:0 for Milan
    
    PYV

    Hi PYV,
    
    what time is ko and what tv channel is showing the game live?
    
    thanks
    
    Peter
    
    

Up here in Scotland the games live KO 8pm.  The rest of you suckers in the
UK will have to make do with highlights after ITN news. Ha Ha Ha Ha...

    Sorry,
    
    I was asking about French tv. It's the wonder of technology.
    
    And the commentry will be better!
    
    Peter

    
    >  And the commentary will be better!
    
    	What's this ?
    
    	Are you casting aspersions on our very own beloved,
    self-proclaimed "Voice of (a) Football", Gerry McNee ?
    
    	Actually, come to think of it, you're probably right. Bring back
    David Francey I say ! (Remind me to tell my David Francey story
    sometime btw).
    
    Malc.
    

I know from satelite:

RAI UNO  (Italy)   live
RTL      (Germany) live
ORF      (Austria) live
ARD      (Germany) live


I hope for Paris for a 1:1

Heribert

Kick-off for PSG v AC Milan is 7.30 BST, 8.30 CET

    Malc,
    
    The great thing about the French commentry is that they are so biased.
    
    They appeal for every decision, get excited when the French team are
    attacking, etc. They also argue amongst themselves regarding those 
    decisions.
    
    It brings much better atmosphere than someone pretending to be nuetral.
    
    Where there are multi audio channels available, I'd vote for home and
    away commentries that you could choose from.
    
    Peter
     

    
    
    It's TF1 in France, at 8:30 PM, after a ton of ads.
    
    PYV
    
    

    
    Well, my fears and predictions were funded.
    
    Paris was dominated the first half and dominated the second one.
    They were unlucky when Ginola (Man of the match IMO) dribbled 2
    defenders and put the ball off the goalie.. on the bar, at the 85 th
    minute, when they were still 0:0.
    Milan scored at the 91 th, on a counter-attack, after a corner for
    Paris which saw the parisians going massively to the Milan's goal.
    
    Once more, Paris proved they are not easy at home. This time, Weah 
    was not as sharp as usual. An why hell Fernandez did not put Valdo on
    the field (The Valdo's free kicks were decisive in several occasions),
    prefering Ricardo (they have 4 foreigners, and can align only 3). BTW,
    Ricardo was strangely slow on the Milan's goal.
    
    Milan played well, very solid in defense, as usual, but they also had
    occasions in the first half. I guess I am not biased by saying thet
    Desailly was their best player, with BAresi yesterday. Savicevic was
    impressive. But I don't understand the referre who did'nt book 
    Panucci who committed an incredible number of fouls on Ginola, as he
    could'nt stop him. 
    
    Well, let's see the second leg. The Parisians claim they can reverse
    the situation. It could be true versus another team. But Milan at home,
    in a WC semi....
    
    PYV

    
    Milan - Paris  2:0
    
    Well, Paris, despite often attacking, was outclassed by Milan, nothing
    to complain about. Milan seems to be back on track. 
    
    However, I guess they were also psychologically beaten, i.e. they were
    too cautious, and did,nt attack frankly. They were sitted between 2
    chairs. They crossed many times in front of the goal, with often only
    one player, Ginola, who was really alone in front of the attack.
    Weah was virtually unexistant. Rumours stand here that he has already
    been hired by Milan (45 M Francs + wages dubbled: 2 MF/month). This 
    might explain his "absence". 
    
    It's now sure now that the PSG team will be dismantled, with Ginola 
    leaving to Italy or Spain, Weah to Milan, and also the three
    Brazilians, Ricardo, Valdo and Rai.
    The team must be rebuild. Fernandes targets the young Nantes's players,
    i.e. Pedros, Loko and Karembeu, plus Anderson. But it will be virtually
    impossible to replace the tandem Ginola/Weah.
    
    Anyway, they will not play the Champions league cup next year, either 
    UEFA, or more likely the cup's cup which is much easier than the 2
    other ones.
    
    PYV
    

    Any news from the Euro match last week ?
    
    Thanks, Thierry.

    They beat Milan 3-0 and so have gone through to 1/2 finals.
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Rick.

	Hello Thierry,

>    They beat Milan 3-0 and so have gone through to 1/2 finals.
 	It was Bordeaux who beat AC Milan 3-0 in the UEFA cup (Tholot,
 	Duguarry *2).
 	
 	PSG did win 3-1 against Parma (Rai, Loko, Rai for PSG, Melli for
 	Parma) in the cup winners cup
    
	Nantes drew with Spartak Moscow 2-2 (Ouedec *2, Nikoforov(sp) *2)
	in the champions league

	For the first time ever, France has a team in evry cup's semi
	final:
	Juventus - Nantes (03-Apr, 17-Apr)
	La Coruna - PSG (04-Apr, 18-Apr)
	Slavia Prague - Bordeaux (02-Apr, 16-Apr)
	
								.Andre.

    Hey they are all French to me... ;->

    re: .119 
    
    Thanks Andre,
    
    I wish there were a way I could see some of these matches in the US :(
    Maybe one day on the internet...
    
    Thierry

    Thierry,
    
    ESPN has been showing the Champions League each round - they showed
    Juventus v real madrid last wednesday at 2.25pm EST. ESPN2 has been
    showing other games from this competition too.
    
    regards
    
    Andrew.D.Wicxks

    Apart from the final Milan - Marseille, I never seen any french club 
    matches on this channel.
    Do you know if they intent to show any of the semi final ?
    
    Thierry.
    
    

    
    Paris SG - AEK Athens  0:0
    
    Very poor match ! Paris had some good accasions though, but they were
    incredibly cr*p in front of the goal.
    The saga continues. Fans are now deserting: only half of the stadium was 
    filled up. The coaching team is now seriously threatened, as 
    well as the "President d�l�gu�", Michel denisot, said to be very close
    to resignation.
    .....
    Now, things are a bit better this week-end with a win 3:1 over Lyon...
    the first PSG win at home for ..... 4 months  !!!
    
    PYV 

I was at this game, and to be honest I can not see either team going any 
Further in the competition. PSG gave the ball away an awful lot.

    
    What a surprise (considering the recent PSG's form) !
    
    AEK Athens - PSG  0:3  
    
    Seems that Loko suddenly recovered !
    
    Not too bad, but I still am dubious about the PSG's capabilities this
    season.
    
    Anyway, the matches versus Liverpool will tell us.
    
    PYV
    
    

    
    Mmm, maybe its because Nantes have suddenly come snapping on their
    heels for a Champoins League place...incredible run by Nantes ~ 24 game
    unbeaten run I think...
    
    Cheers,
    
    Dezzz.

    Goals from Leonardo, Cauet and Leroy.
    
    Well, not bad considering the predictions of the French press, who's
    bashing them quite often these times (except for the 2nd leg versus
    Athens). They had some reasons, as PSG is now 10 points clear behind
    Monaco, with a poor 1:1 versus Guingamp at the last home time.
    
    This explains why this is considered as a good surprise. Of course,
    they have not been brilliant, but rather solid versus a desappointing 
    Liverpool side. It's not over yet, but they have all cards in hand to 
    participate in their second final in a row.
    
    PYV
    
      

    
    2nd leg.... Liverpool 4 - PSG 0 !!!!
    
    Olivier.

    
    Olivier,
    
    Glad to see you again over there !
    Did'nt know you were such a PSG fan !
    
    You should support them, as if they are busy in Europe, they will 
    continue to be p*ssed poor in France and leave the second place to 
    Nantes.
    
    PYV (OGC Nice to win the Cup)

    Well, Paris is qualified for the final versus Barcelona (tough).
    
    But I really disliked their mentality. I heard a couple of interviews 
    this morning, particularly the one from Lama, who told: "Yeh, we are
    very happy. We were there only to qualify, not to make the game; the
    only issue was to conceade less than 3 goals...."
    Apparently, their strategy was to stick on defencing and wait...
    
    Awful !
    
    Now, against Barcelona, they will have no other choice that playing 
    or being eliminated. 
    
    

    
    			
    
    			Barcelona 5 : 0 Paris Saint-Germain.

    
    	Olivier,
    
    	I don't rate Paris SG either.....
    
    	They have been cr*p along the season, and still wonder how they 
    	could reach the final... I also wonder why Nantes still is behind 
    	them.
    
    	PYV

    Tonight, the Winners Cup final,  PSG - Barcelona
    
    Despite being the tenant of the Cup, PSG is the challenger, and not
    given as favorite. 
    This is due to the brilliant regain of form of the Spanish side, with
    an outstanding Ronaldo.
    On the French side, the morale is relatively low, but they reckon that 
    being seen as challengers remove some pressure. Paris did not really 
    solve its offensive inabilities, and could preserve its second place
    in the table (far from Monaco) only due to the failure of the
    followers.
    
    However, a Cup match is different, you never know... If PSG wins, it
    will be the first time in History where one club wins twice this cup
    in a row.
    
    Then, Good luck
    PYV  
    
    
    

    
    Barcelona 5:0 PSG

Any idea which channel this is being shown on ??

 Eurosport ?

    
    for sure, French channel TF1 (8:30pm)
    
    Olivier.

    Well, It's 1:0 for Barca.
    
    Not a brilliant match. Both teams could have score more goals. The
    difference was only due to Ronaldo, who provoked a (deserved) penalty
    although not very dangerous on this action (but who knows with him ?).
    He did not shoot it nicely either, and Lama should have saved it.
    
    Paris misses its chances with this ball put on the post by Loko, alone
    face to Victor Baia. An equalizer could have changed the face of the 
    match... 
    But this year Paris did not deserve to win a trophy.....
    
    PYV