Conference trucks::football;1

    
    I asked the moderator to enter this topic, in the hope that someone down
    Tees-side way could keep me up to date on the Boro's new siginings,
    Chris Morris & Derek Whyte ?
    
    If there aren't any Boro fans working at DEC, then any English fan with
    a knowledge of Premier League football may help ?
    
    In anticipation
    
    

    
    There are at least 2 Boro fans in Dec one is a season ticket holder so
    I'll alert him to your enquiries. But for obvious reasons (crap team &
    being stuffed out of sight by Newcastle pre season) he is keeping a low
    profile usually camping out in other conferences..
    
    Gary..

    
    Well there are to my knowledge 4 Middlesbrough season ticket holders
    working for DEC ( more than Newcastle ! ) .
    There used to be a Middlesbrough notes conference on the old node but
    since there wasn't any long distance fan ( As they are usually the ones
    who yearn for information ) I didn't bother opening a new one .
    It's much more fun dipping into other teams topics , and not having
    people getting into yours ( and slagging you off !!! ) .
    
    However ......
    
    Derek Whyte and Chris Morris were signed from Celtic 2 days before the
    season started . Chris Morris was a direct swap for Andy Payton and
    Derek Whyte was an outright buy . 
    It's early day's yet but in the 2 games I have seen them in I am preety
    satisfied in their performances . Morris looks solid and professional
    and Whyte looks like striking up a good partnership with Alan Kernaghan
    . Although one blemish against Whyte was a mistake against Leeds
    letting Cantona for there only goal last Saturday .
    
    Boro now have 5 sweaty socks in their team , Hendry , Falconer , Wright
    , Whyte  and Slaven . Chris Morris is English ( though he plays for the
    Republic of Ireland ) .
    
    As for Andy Payton , well he didn't really get a good run out for the
    Boro . He hit a lot of bad luck with injuries and should have been kept
    for maybe at least another 6 months . As he has alot of pace and skill
    . 
    
    Boro don't have a game in mid week and they play at Southampton on
    Saturday .
    
    Bill. 
    	
    

    
    Draw for the Coca-Cola League cup 2nd round was made last night .
    
    Middlesbrough play Newcastle over 2 legs , with the BORO playing at
    Newcastle week starting 7th Sept. and the 2nd leg at Ayresome Park
    week starting 21st Sept. ,
    
    should be fun ,
    
    BILL

    
    So don't expect to hear from Bill for 2 months after the w/e 25/9/92..
    
    
    Gary///

    
    Thats because I'll be too busy spending all the money I've taken in
    from bets  . 
    Anyway it will give the Geordies a taste of some first class football .
    
    Bill

    
    
    re -1
    
    >> 'anyway it will give the Geordies a taste of some first class
    football.'
    
    Yes Bill, but MANCHESTER UNITED have not played your lot yet !!!!
    :) :-) :-0 :-P
    
    
    Mac

    
    Have Man Utd played "football" against any opposition this season yet.
    
    
    Gary...

    
    Saturday 30th August
    
    Southampton 2 - Middlesbrough 1
    LA Tissia!      Wilkinson
    Banger
    
    On the international front Derek Whyte is in the Scotland squad to play
    Switzerland although Willie Falconer is not included as I believe he
    should be .

    
    
    1st September 1992
    
    Middlesbrough 2 - Ipswich 2
    Kernaghan         Wark
    Wilkinson         Goddard
    
    Slaven missed a penalty in the last minute .Wilkinson scored his fifth
    goal in five premier matches .

    
    
    Saturday 5th September
    
    Middlesbrough 2 - Sheffield Utd. 0
    Falconer
    Wright

    
    
    Saturday 12th September....
    
    
    
    		Manchester City 0 - Middlesbrough 1
    				    Flitcroft o.g.

    
    Saturday 19th September....
    
    
    QPR 3 - Middlesbrough 3

    
    
    Wednesday 23rd September...
    
    
    
    Newcastle 7 - Middlesbrough 0
    
    

> The dream goeas on .


	Gary WAKE up !!!!!!!

BIll .

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    Mu family and I will be making a quick weeks visit back to the UK in
    November to see grandma, and I've promised my 9 year old, who's
    football mad (I've watched England lose to W. Germany in the '90 World
    Cup at least 15 times now on the VCR, and each time I keep hoping the
    result will come out different. Wanna know how many times I've seen
    Mark Wright collide with Rodger Mila?) that we can go to a Middlesboro
    game, if they're at home. Can anyone tell me where, and who, the 'Boro
    are playing on Saturday, November 21st? Does the 'Boro have any evening
    league games scheduled at home the following week? (Nov. 23rd - Nov
    27th)
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Alan
    
    (the father of the only girl in North America to own a complete 
    Middlesboro F.C. strip)

    
    Now that I've moved it, I'll answer your question.
    
    Unfortunately there will be no football at Ayresome Park on November
    21st as Wimbledon are the visitors.  You'd want to be really desperate
    to see Boro if you go to that one.
    
    There are no midweek games planned for the following week.  Maybe Boro
    will have a game in the ZDS.
    
    Gary.

    Now that I've found the note, I'll sign up as the long distance fan
    that Bill refered to a few back as the justification for having a 'Boro
    note. I read the Boston Globe every Sunday morning to see how the 'Boro
    has done the day before, but I do miss the coverage in the Evening
    Gazette!
    
    I live in Hopkinton, MA, but am from Stockton. Used to pay my 1/-
    (that's 5p to you post-1971 lot) to get in the Boys End (is it still
    there?) and watch Cloughie torment the visiting fans when he put one in
    the net. One of the saddest days of my boyhood was the day he blew his
    knee out, even though he was playing for Sunderland at the time.
    
    I'd appreciate it if Bill could flesh out the scores with a sentence or
    two about how the game went.
    
    re -.2. Will I be able to buy seating tickets the day of the game at
    the ground? 
    
    Regards,
    Alan

	HI Alan ,

	and welcome to the Middlesbrough notes conference . 

	It's good to see at long last a " remote " BORO fan . 
	I'll be glad to enter a bit more info about the furure BORO 
	matches .
	As you will already know BORO are playing at home to Wimbledon
	on the 21st November and of course I will be there . There are 
	3 seating areas at Middlesbrough and for two of them you need to
	be a member . The other one is behind the goal at the east end of
	the ground . 
	I also come from Stockton , but I live up in Geordieland now 
	surrounded by fans from some of the lower clubs in the region
	( Newcastle and Sunderland ) . 
	I have a season ticket for the Holgate ( west end ) and go to
	maybe half a dozen away games a season as well . I was at Newcastle
	on Wednesday night for the first leg of the Coca-Cola cup where
	we drew 0-0 . 
	Let me know if you need tickets ,

	cheers ,

	Bill .
	

    Bill:
    
    	I scanned the Newcastle note yesterday and saw the score. I was
    counting on a more "objective" view of the game here. :) When's the
    replay?
    
    	On the ticket thing, why don't we take it off-line and save the
    disk space. I'll send mail.
    
    Regards,
    Alan  

    
    
    How come there isn't an entry in here for Boro's score at the weekend ?
    
    >counting on a more "objective" view of the game here.
    
    Boro were outclassed by Newcastle !!
    
    Gary..

	Saturday 26th September......


	Premier League

	Middlesbrough 2 - Aston Villa 3

	Slaven	           Saunders 2
	Mcgrath o.g.	   Atkinson            Attendance 20,905

	Middlesbrough
	Ironside , morris , Kernaghan , Whyte , Phillips , Mustoe , Peake ,
	Pollock , Wright , Slaven , Wilkinson

	Aston Villa
	Spink , Barrett , Teale , McGrath , Staunton , Houghton , Richardson ,
	Parker ( sub Blake 88 mins .) Froggatt ( sub Yorke 71 mins ) Saunders ,
	Atkinson , 

	Well I think I might have seen the potential Premier league champions
	on Saturday .  Villa look a well balanced side with a nice touch of 
	flair .
	Boro were without the inflential Falconer in midfield and the runs 
	of Hendrie , as both were injured with calf injuries . 
	Villa were a class above BORO in the first half ,  with a Saunders
	goal not a true reflection of their superiority . Though the BORO
	were a different team in the second half and after Slaven equalised
	It looked as though BORO were more likely to take the 3 points .
	But then 2 goals in 3 minutes crushed BORO's comeback . A final fling
	raised BORO's hopes once again when McGrath scored an own goal , but
	in the end it was only a consolation .
	

	TOP EIGHT 
			p  w  d  l  f  a  pts
Norwich		       10  7  2  1  19 12  23
Blackburn	       10  6  3  1  17  8  21
Coventry               10  6  2  2  12  8  20
Man. Utd.	       10  5  3  2  11  7  18
Q.P.R.		       10  4  5  1  13  9  17
Aston Villa	       10  4  4  2  17 12  16
MIddlesbrough           9  4  2  3  18 13  14
Leeds                  10  3  5  2  17 14  14 

BILL

Please ignore anything entered in  the Boro notes topic that was written

by Gary Lowe . As you will have seen he is very creative/imaginative in his 

descriptions and he is subject to wild exagerations ..

  
I think when he reads between the lines of a match report ( as he never 

actually goes to watch Newcastle ) he somehow veers off into his own little 

black and white world of makebelieve .

So next time you see statements like " Newcastle 7 - Boro 0 " or " Newcastle

outclassed Middlesbrough " just pity the poor couch fan 


				:-)

Bill .

    
    
    He's right you know !!!
    
    Gary...

	FA Premier League Fixtures 1992-1993

	AUGUST

	Sat 15 Coventry      (A)				1-2
	Wed 19 Man.City	     (H)				2-0
	Sat 22 Leeds Utd.    (H)				4-1
	Sat 29 Southampton   (A)				1-2
	
	SEPTEMBER

	Tue  1 Ipswich       (H)				2-2
	Sat  5 Sheffield Utd (H)				2-0
	Sat 12 Man. City     (A)				1-0
	Sat 19 Q.P.R.        (A)				3-3
	Wed 23 Newcastle     (A) Coca-Cola 2nd rd 1st leg	0-0
	Sat 26 Aston Villa   (H)				2-3

	OCTOBER

	Sat  3 Man. Utd.     (H)
	Wed  7 Newcastle     (H) Coca-Cola 2nd rd 2nd leg
	Sat 17 Spurs	     (A)
	Sat 24 Sheff Wed.    (H)
	Wed 28 			 Coca-Cola 3rd rd
	Sat 31 Norwich	     (A)

	NOVEMBER

	Sat  7 Liverpool     (A) 
	Sat 21 Wimbledon     (H)
	Sat 28 Oldham        (A)

	DECEMBER

	Wed  2 			 Coca-Cola 4th rd
	Sat  5 Blackburn     (H)
	Sat 12 Chelsea       (H)
	Sat 19 Arsenal       (A)
	Sat 26 Everton       (A)
	Mon 28 Crytal Palace (H)

	JANUARY

	Sat  2 			 F.A. cup 3rd rd
	Wed  6			 Coca-Cola 5th rd
	Sat  9 Q.P.R.	     (H)
	Sat 16 Aston Villa   (A)
	Sat 23 			 F.A. cup 4th rd
	Tue 26 Southampton   (H)
	Sat 30 Leeds	     (A)

	FEBRUARY

	Sat  6 Coventry      (H)
	Tue  9 Sheff Utd.    (A)
	Sat 13 Ipswich       (A)
	Sat 20 Notts. For.   (H)
	Sat 27 Man. Utd.     (A)

	MARCH

	Sat  6 Spurs	     (H)
	Tue  9 Wimbledon     (A)
	Sat 13 Liverpool     (H)
	Sat 20 Blackburn     (A)
	Tue 23 Oldham        (H)

	APRIL

	Sat  3 Chelsea       (A)
	Sat 10 Everton	     (H)
	Mon 12 Crystal P.    (A)
	Sat 17 Arsenal       (H)
	Wed 21 Notts. F.     (A)

	MAY

	Sat  1 Sheff Wed     (A)
	Sat  8 Norwich       (H)
	Sat 15   ************F.A. CUP FINAL ************

	FIXTURES ARE COPYRIGHT OF THE F.A. PREMIER LEAGUE


		BILL

    A 1-1 draw against United, according to the MU note. What was the game
    like from the Boro stands?
    
    Regards,
    Alan

    
    Saturday 3rd October
    
    Middlesbrough 1 - Manchester Utd. 1
    Slaven            Bruce (pen)
    
    24,121
    
    Boro improved on last week but were without Alan Kernaghan who injured
    himself in the warm-up prior to the kick-off . Apparantly he went up to
    head a ball and he had a twinge/spasm in his neck . He was def. missed
    as his replacement ( John Gittens ) gave a needless penalty away as
    Utd. took a first half lead. Bernie Slaven ( who was man of the match )
    equalised in the second half , and a draw was a fair result . However
    UTD. had the chance to take 3 points if Mark Hughes had not worn the
    wrong boots on the wrong feet . Utd. are very good on the break but
    lacked a finisher of the class of Saunders of villa last week .
    
    Boro dropped to 9th in the league , and their next match is against
    Newcastle on Wednesday night in the Coca-Cola cup .
    
    
    BILL

    
    I hope Kernaghan has not quite recovered for tonight's match Bill.
    Gittens'll give away 3 penalties against Newcastle's forward line
    judging by the TV evidence of the Man U. game.
    
    Tim
    

    
    Wednesday 7th October
    
    Coca-Cola cup 2nd rd. 2nd leg
    
    Boro 1 - Newcastle 3
    Wilkinson   Kelly 2 , O'Brien
    
    24,390
    
    I knew it was going to be a bad night when all the pubs were shut near
    the ground . The police decided to shut them for fear of reprisals from
    the Newcastle fans after some Boro morons had wrecked a pub in
    Newcastle in the first leg .
    
    Anyway it didn't improve in the ground either . Newcastle were far the
    better team in the first half and we were fortunate to be only one down
    . The second half was a slight improvement and after Wilkinson had
    equalised with a bullit header we started to take control for the next
    20 mins. However with Newcastle scoring an away goal we had to score
    again and pushed forward. O'brien scored a brilliant goal in the 79 min
    and 9 mins. later Kelly scored his second . 
    Can't really complain as Newcastle deserved to go into the next round
    though Kevin Keegan looked a bit of a plank after his comment on the
    television after the first leg match . He was implying that Boro didn't
    sell their full allocation of tickets at St. James Park and said "
    There will be one difference between tonight and at Ayresome Park and
    that is we will sell our full allocation " . His face must have been as
    red as the 300 empty red seats in the East stand .
    
    Bill .

    
    Saturday 17th October .
    
    Spurs 2 - Middlesbrough 2
    Sherinham      Mustoe
    Barmby         Wilkinson
    
    Boro stay 9th in the PREMIER league .

	Wednesday 21st October

	Notts. Forrest 1 - Middlesbrough 0

	Black


	

	Saturday 24th October 

	Middlesbrough 1 - Sheff wed. 1

	Wilkinson	  Bright

	Boro stay 9th in the Premier league .
	
	Not a bad result considering the injury problems , with the entire

	Boro midfield out injured . Falconer , Mustoe , Peake , Pollock ,

	Hendrie and Whyte were all out injured .

	News today that Boro are to take on Dwight Blackson from Feyenoord
	
	on  a weeks trial , he's a 21 year old striker . 

    Hey Bill! I was there for the Wimbledon game, and my family and I had a
    great time. Vinnie was obligingly nasty, wasn't he? We had seats in the
    North Stand, up under the roof, so we were out of the rain. I was most
    impressed with Hendry....he looks like a good 'un. Took 'em a while to
    get going, but both of the goals were crackers. 
    
    Saw the Oldham result just as we were waiting for the 'plane at
    Heathrow. :(
    
    Thanks for all your advice. If I'm over for a solo visit in the spring,
    maybe we can have a pint before the game.
    
    Regards,
    Alan
    
    p.s. keep up the paragraph summaries.....I do look for them.

    
    	Allan ,
    
    
    	I missed the Wimbledon game through work commitments but I saw
    	the goals on TV . To make up for it I decided to got to Oldham
    	good day out but we were really bad . 
    	Went to the Blackburn game on Saturday , it was like watching
    	a totally different team from the week before . Hendrie again
    	was in outstanding form and scored 3 goals . It was the first 
    	time Blackburn had been beaten on their travels this season .
    	Mohan was recalled to replace Gittens and the partnership
    	with Whyte looked really solid . Fleming marked BORO old
    	boy Ripley out of the game , and Ripley was eventually subbed
    	in the 70th minute .
    	Boro are playing on this Friday night instead of Saturday so 
    	that Sky can televise the game live on satellite .  This will
    	be a prequel for the FA cup tie on  2nd January ay Ayresome Park .
    	It was also announced that BORO's game at Aston Villa will be
    	televised live on Sunday 17th JAnuary on SKY .
    
    	Bill

    
    
    
    			Sorry Alan I mis-spelled your name
    
    			Bill

    Bill:
    
    	I see you're still in ELF, so I assume you survived the December
    purges. Happy New Year!
    
    	What's the story with Slaven? Is he still with the club? How're
    they doing without him? I've been reading the scores in the Sunday
    Boston Globe, but that's about as much as I know about what's going on
    at the moment. Looks like the 'Boro is out to set a league record for
    drawn games this season. If they keep drawning at this rate for the
    rest of the year, they should end up bang in the middle of the table.

    How's my boy Hendry doing?
    
    Regards,
    Alan

    
    Hi Alan ,
    
    	looks like Slaven will begiven a free transfer . At the last count
    	there were 15 clubs interested ,
    
    
    	We could do with his goals at the moment , as we are struggling
    	badly . I went to Villa Park last Sunday , and as you probably
    	know got stuffed 5-1 , and could easily have been more . Still ,
    	the BORO fans never lost their sence of humour and we were 
    	taunting the Villa fans with " one five , one five one five 
    	one five !!! "|
    	Anyway I can't have given up hope as I am going to Notts.
    	Forrest on Saturday for the 4th round FA cup tie ,
    
    	Bill

    I missed the score for the Sunday game....the league results we see in
    the Boston Globe are for games played Saturday, and that's my only
    source. But 5-1! Hope the do better in the Cup game. I'll be looking
    for the results. 
    
    So what's with Newcastle this season? They look unbeatable by anyone.
    Is Keegan still managing them? If so, he's having a hell of a winter!
    
    I'll look for your game summary.
    
    Regards,
    Alan

Article: 47476
From: [email protected] (Mr C I Armitage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: They played for BORO
Date: 2 Jun 1993 19:30:58 +0100
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
 
 
 
 
Forenote: Any references to charachters and events, real or fictional
          in this article are completely coincidental.
 
 
		They played for Middlesbrough.
 
 Jesus Christ first played for Boro during their tour of the middle east
in the year 17 A.D. He was said to be the son of a boss of an extremely
large and powerful company, but was adopted by a poor couple and was
born in a barn just 200 yards from the ground of Bethlehem Rovers, 
his first club. 
 
 At that time the manager of great rivals Roman Villa hatched an evil 
plot to destroy Bethlehems world famous youth policy by slaughtering 
all the new born baby boys in the city. Fortunately 'Jezza' managed to
avoid this mass slaughter and went on to become a key figure in
"The Beth's" league and cup winning side of AD16.
 
 Shortly after Jesus was born it was claimed in the local paper, The
Bethlehem Bible, that the floodlights of the football ground lit up of
their own accord and that famous managers and coaches came from all
over the globe to see this child. Three wise scouts visited and told 
his parents that he would make a fine man manager one day. In order 
to help him they gave him gifts of goals, frankness and mirth.
 
 As Christ grew older he discovered that his best position was in goal
and it was there that he was first spotted by Borowhilst playing against
us in a pre-season tour of Isreal. We snapped up the promising keeper
for a few loaves and fishes, there were no agents to push up transfer 
fees in those days.
 
 When Jezza first came to England he was hero-worshipped by many who
were impressed by his commanding presence of the goal area. His father
was extremely proud of his footballing son and was able to watch every
game he played, due to the fact that he was omnipotent.
 
 Jesus himself remained modest about his achievements and unhurt by 
any criticism he recieved. He was able to perform miracle saves at will,
It wasn't long before hoardes of travelling Boro supporters sewed 
"Jesus saves" on their Union Jack and displayed them at grounds 
all over the country. You may still be able to see the phrase outside
churches even now!
 
 Christs greatest strength was his ability on crosses, and his long goal
kicks brought Boro back from the dead on more than one occasion.
However the fans became fickle in those days and when it was put to a 
vote at the end of one season it was decided that Bar Abbas (Bazza)
should be Boros custodian and not Jesus. Christ was gutted by the 
decision and claimed that even his father had forsaken him.
 
 Jesus then took a step up in the world and joined his father at 
Heaven F.C and played against Hell in the Eternal Premier League
every Satda afternoon. And so he left the Boro to the cries of
"Going Up, Going Up". He has never returned to Middlesbrough
despite promising that he would be back......one day. Amen.
 
 
Roofus the Boro Dog

    
    
    And not one mention of 'Jesus Saves', but Kenny Daglish knocks in the
    rebound.
    
    Tim

    It's been a long time since the last note here. So tell all about the
    1-0 win over Wolves on Saturday. What's the latest gossip at Ayresome
    Park? Inquiring minds want to know....
    
    Alan

    
    	Well since the Wolves match we have drawn away at Luton ( 1-1 )
    	and got beat at Leicester ( 0-2 ) .
    
    	Tonight we are at home to Southend , with a full squad of players
    	to pick from . If we win our 2 games in hand over most teams it
    	would put us on the periphery of the play-offs .
    	I don't think we will get to the play-offs though , we're just
    	not good enough I'm afraid .
    
    	Anyway if the BORO go up , DATATAB ( one of out VAR's ) won't
    	be sponsoring 6 matches next season . DATATAB are just interested
    	in N.E. tv converage , and if BORO get promoted they will get
    	national coverage .
    
    	Anyway I'm 'paying' for tonights game ,
    
    	Bill

    Nice to hear from you again, Bill. Let me know how they do against
    Southend. 
    
    How are things in the offices at Ayresome? ANy signs of a white knight
    with lots of money? Any mutterings about the current management? I'm
    going to have to ask my mam to sent me some clippings from the Gazette.
    
    Regards,
    Alan
    
    p.s. are the Toonies in the office unbearable? We get a 1hr show on
    cable over here that's got highlights from the Premiere game of the
    week, plus all the goals from the Premiere that week. The games are
    only about 4-5 out of date when I see them, and I saw N'castle vs
    Sheffield Wednesday last week. I love Cole/Beardsley and the whole team
    is fun to watch. The question each week seems to be whether the Dynamic
    Duo up front can score enough to keep the team in front to the end,
    given the silly ones a rather shakey defence is letting in at the back.

    
    
    After the 3-2 defeat by Crystal Palace on Sunday , which finally
    stops any chance of the BORO reaching the play-offs , Lennie
    Lawrence resigns as Manager of Middlesbrough Football Club .
    
    This was not a shock , as Lawrence was quoted as saying he would
    leave if he did not get them back into the premier .
    
    Rumours have started as the new manager , and Gorden Strachen's name
    as player manager have been talked about . Other names are Souness ,
    Little , and Bob Palmer !!
    
    Bill
    

    
    I reckon, that Robbo can take Boro back to the Premiership. He needs a
    good assistant however, like Viv Anderson for instance.
    
    Tony
    
     

    
    If it comes off or not it's nice to see the club with a bit of
    ambition at last .
    
    Bill

    Has Robson taken over at Ayrsome yet? I hope you're not getting too
    excited about your prospects. He's untried in management, apart from a
    bit of coaching in the England camp, and I always thought that he was
    overrated as a player. After all those years playing for Manu it was
    only when he was out of the side for most of the season that they won
    the championship! 
    
    I hope it works out for you but I wonder whether he's up to it.
    
    Paul.
    

    No fishing intended. I don't think Captain Marvel was all that good.
    What prompted this was a report on the radio this morning about how
    expectations were rising in Middlesborough.
    
    Paul.
    

    Well, thanks to the BAFF (Blackburn Anti-Fishing Front) a.k.a Andy
    Green, running up and down on the river bank shouting and screaming to
    scare off the fish, the catch on this angling expedition was minimal 
    (b*gger all in fact).
    
    The problem with any sort of bait is that it will only tempt a specific
    breed (or in-breed as the case may be). Every other species can see it for
    what it is, simply a lure. I thought it might do quite well, having a
    go at Captain Dehydrated_Dairy_Product. If anything will get the Manu
    lot going it's an attack on their beloved Robbo. 
    
    Well, I suppose it was a bit obvious after the goings-on in note 43 
    yesterday.
    
    Paul. 
    
     

    Paul,
    
    I don't undertand how anyone with even a modicum of intelligence could
    fail to see Bryan Robson for the superb all-round athlete and
    inspirational leader that he is. Obviously, it's just sour grapes from
    a club who will never achieve collectively even half of what Bryan has
    done individually.
    
    B****rds like you make me sick !
    
    Jerry.
    
    
    Is this the sort of thing you had in mind Paul ?
    
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;--------------))))))))))))
    

Just to interject a football note . . . Robson's acquired his first signing - 
Clayton Blackmore on a free transfer. Dion Dublin next?!

g

    Just got a letter from back home. In it is an application form for
    season tickets at Ayresome Park. The handout says that this will be the
    last season played there. There's also an "artist's impression" of a
    new stadium that looks like it will hold a lot of bodies. When I was
    home about 6 weeks ago, I heard some talk of a new ground down on the
    banks of the Tees in the old Cannon Street area, but it didn't sound
    like it was a done deal. What's the story behind the new ground? Who's
    paying for it (apart from the punters, that is!)?
    
    Alan

                       <<< Note 175.52 by DEVLPR::KETT >>>
                           -< No more Holgate end? >-

>    last season played there. There's also an "artist's impression" of a
>    new stadium that looks like it will hold a lot of bodies. When I was
  

    Did they also provide an artist impression of the 'Boro playing
    football.

    Loads of smileys, ( you'll need these with Robson in charge )

    Stuart

    alan,
    
    "hold a lot of bodies" - I think you've been sent a picture of the new
    municipal cemetry! but then boro always did play like a bunch of stiffs
    (:==:)
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    re -.1
    
    Now hang on a minute! I'll have you know that Bill Boddy has a large
    family....... :)
    
    Alan

    
    	My family is large but unfortunately not enough to fill 32,000 .
    
    	Anyway the ground is only costing 16 million pounds . 
    
    	Mainly coming from :-
    
    	Teesside development corporation .
    
    	Sale of old ground ( a quid )
    
    	I.C.I.
    
    	and "other contributions"
    
    	Incidently the picture you saw Alan is the year 2000 picture .
    	When the ground is finished next year the corners won't be there .
    	They are adding them in 5 years time .
    
    	Bill
    
    	p.s. There are also some rumours that Brian McClair might be
    		joining Robson . 

    
    Rumour control has it that Mark Wright or Gary Stephen (the Rangers
    defender ) will be joining the Boro .
    1.3 million is the asking price for McClair , and this is being
    considered .
    Wilkinson has been offered a 1 year contract . He is also considering 
    his future .

    Robson's first match in charge of Middlesborough is a friendly against
    Ayr United at Somerset on August 2nd.
    
    Kev...

    I get to see Korea play against Bolivia in a couple of weeks. Just like
    Ayresome Park in 1966! Anyone remember the North Koreans? They put the
    wind up a few good teams.....
    
    ALan

    
    Alan,
    
    Can you fill me in on what type of player Wilkinson is ?
    
    He's rumoured to be the latest transfer target for Celtic. Macari of
    course, denies it !
    
    

>                       <<< Note 175.59 by DEVLPR::KETT >>>
>                         -< North Koreans at Ayresome >-
>
>    I get to see Korea play against Bolivia in a couple of weeks. Just like
>    Ayresome Park in 1966! Anyone remember the North Koreans? They put the
>    wind up a few good teams.....
>    
Yes, didn't they go about 3-1 up against Portugal before Eusebio took them 
apart? 

But no chance this year - with all the fuss over their 'nuclear capability' I 
fancy they wouldbn't have made it past US Immigration if they'd qualified. 
Much more acceptable to have the southerners there.

g

    
    Please take Wilkinson off us .
    
    No pace , no skill , no physical presence , fair header of the ball .
    
    Revenge for Derek White !!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Bill

    
    
    	Bryan Robson yesterday broke Middlesbrough's transfer record to
    	land Neil Cox , Aston Villa's England under-21 international
    	defender . He is expected to have cost the Boro 1 million pounds .
    	Cox signed a 3 year contract and is expected to play at right back.
    
    
    	So with Blackmore at left back Cox at right back and Boro still
    	looking at central defenders , it looks like Robson will be totally
    	decimating the back four .
    
    	Robson has said he will be buying 2 or 3 quality players .
    
    
    	Boro will seek entry into the anglo-italian cup next season .
    	So with only 8 English teams entered , Boro will play Italian
    	opposition in the first game .
    
    	Bill

    
    You can be sure of about fifteen penalties from Cox next season. Sadly,
    unlike Jorgen Klinnsman, they'll be for the opposing side.
    
    Tony
    
    

    
    
    	Boro's opening match is at home to Burnley on the 13th August
    	followed buy a trip to Southend on the 20th .
    
    	Bill

    I'm rather surprised to find the BORO represented in Notes. I'll
    chuck-in my twopence worth and no doubt start a string of replies. 
    
    So we're getting a new ground at last - anyone see the Gazette last
    weekend?  For those that didn't, there's a front page splash about some
    Scrap car dealer located on the very ground of our proposed new home.
    There's a cracking colour picture of the 3 owners, complete with more
    indian ink than flesh, looking like bouncers out of the Bongo Club. They
    don't look like moving in a hurry! 
    
    Now I love the Boro, spent more money watching them than I have at
    Parlie Road Fish and Chip Shop (The worlds best), but when it comes to
    listening to the plans of our beloved Board of Directors....
    
    Can anyone out there remember the old Newport Working Mens Club?
    For those who can't let me explain.
    
    There was once this little dive of a place that stood in the way of a
    new road development. Nobody ever went there except the terminally
    sick (of work) the lame (of the bad back variety) and the lazy (Bernie
    Slaven?). I can't remember how many years they stuck it out but it was
    quite a few. They ended up with a new club which at the time cost about
    the same as it would to pay Bernie's wages for 25 years.
    
    The point I'm trying to make is, we've all been had in the past and
    until the first (maybe last?) bricks are laid, I for one will not be
    rushing to buy a season ticket.
    
    Have you ever wondered why the BORO went down from the Premier? Cos
    Henderson and co were worried to death about having to seat the
    Holgate! Where has all the dosh gone over the years? How many star
    players were sold for big bucks - Mills, Johnston, Souness, Armstrong
    et al. Where did the ICI sponsorship lolly go? How much did Charlie
    Amer do for the club? I could go on and on.
    
    Are we to forget? 
    
    I wish Robbo all the best but he will need to be as headstrong as Keegan 
    was/is to get his own way, the problem is what is Brian Robsons' connection
    with Teesside. - ICI put a plane on for him everyday!!!!!
    
    Steve (I've seen the light) the Critic

    I read that Hearts are to play Boro on the 6th August in a preseason
    friendly.
    Ferry Jambo

    
    
    	Robbo lured a third former Man U teammate to Ayresome Park 
    	yesterday by appointing one-time Scottish international
    	defender Gordon McQueen .
    
    
    	Bill 

    
    Changed plans were unveiled yesterday for the new stadium .
    The new ground ( which will be named by the fans ) will complete
    by next July and work will commence in September . Work on clearing the
    area where the ground will be built has allready started .
    
    The new stadium was initially a bog standard 4 stand ground ( like the
    new den ) . Now they have come up with a unique design will have an
    isolated straight west stand and a revolutionary horse-shoe shaped
    stand curving round the other 3 sides of the ground .
    
    Bill

    Bill:
    
    News is spotty over here. Who has Robbo signed so far? I saw something
    on the internet about a one million quid signing....
    
    Alan

    
    So far :-
    
    IN
    
    Clayton Blackmore 	Man. Utd .	free
    Neil    Cox		Aston Villa	1,000,000
    Nigel   Pearson	Sheff Wed.	5000,000
    Bryan   Robson	Man. Utd.	free
    Jaime   Moreno	Bolivia		500,000 agreed if the 2 week trial
    					goes ok.
    
    OUT
    
    Andy    Peake	Bradford	free
    Richard Liburd	Bradford	200,000
    
    and certainly more to come and go before the season starts .
    
    Bill

    
    Pearson should read 500,000 !!!

    
    Boro beat Torquay (away) 2-0 with goals from Robson and Hendrie
    in their first pre-season match .
    Bill

    
    
    
    Boro beat Exeter 5-1 with goals from Wilkinson (3) and Hignett (2) in 
    a pre-season friendly .
    
    Bill

    Boro beat Darlington 3-0 in a friendly at Feethams last night .
    
    I went along to see the start of a new era . The team :-
    
    				Roberts
    
    Cox			Whyte		Vickers		Fleming
    
    
    Mustoe		Pollock		Robson		Moore
    
    			Hendrie		Moreno
    
    
    Subs - Wilkinson , Hignett , Blackmore , Wright 
    
    
    
    	Moreno played his first game in a Boro shirt last night , and
    	stole the show with a stunning display . He scored twice , had
    	two more efforts cleared off the line and dazzled the crowd with
    	his electric pace and fine touch . A further late goal from
    	Hignett put the icing on the cake for an entertaining Boro side .
    
    	Moreno is only on trial , but at 500,000 he would be an absolute
    	snip .  So come on Robbo listen to the 3,000 Boro fans who were
    	at the match last night and " Sign him on , sign him on sign him
    	on " .
    
    	Bill

    
    Is Chris Morris still at Boro, and does he get a game ?
    
    

    
    He was one of the subs last night but did not play .
    
    He played in the game aginst Exeter at right back and was apparantly
    outstanding .
    
    Bill
    
    p.s. Derek Whyte was crap last night

    
    
    
    Boro signed Jaime Moreno at the weekend for 250,000 !!!!
    
    with an extra payment of 125,000 if he completes 50 matches .
    
    I'm " over the moon " at this signing , as he is a very exciting player
    . I can't believe we bought him at the price we paid .
    
    
    
    Boro were beaten 1-0 at Raith Rovers on Saturday .
    
    Bill
    

    
    
    	Boro completed their pre-season friendlies with a 3-1 victory
    	over Hearts at Ayresome Park on Saturday , with goals for
    	Wilkinson , Hendrie , and Cox .
    
    	Bill

    
    
    	Yesterday , Boro signed Arsenals reserve goalkeeper Allan Miller .
    	To fee is yet to be agreed , and he will make his debut against
    	Burnley on Saturday .
    	
    
    	Bill

    
    	Rumours of Pollock going to Leeds were quashed today when
    	Jaime signed a 12 month extension to his existing contract .
    
    	Bill

    Re: -1
    
>    	Rumours of Pollock going to Leeds were quashed today when
    
    
    Apparently, Bryan Robson told the Press that the rumours were a load of
    Pollocks ! ;-)
    
    Jerry.

    Bill:
    
    Just handed in my notice this morning. I'm moving on. I'll miss this
    note. How else am I to keep up with what's going on at Ayresome?
    
    Two weeks left and counting....
    
    Alan

    
    
    	Alan ,
    
    	isn't keeping in touch with notes an incentive enough to stay !
    
    
    	Seriously though it is sad to see another one go , especially a
    	Boro fan .
    
    	Good luck ,
    
    
    	Bill ( you can always read XRN on the internet )

    Saw last weekend's result. 2-0 win. Were you at the game? How did
    Moreno play?
    
    ALan

    
    
    The 2-0 win over Burnley was "comfortable" . There is still a lot of
    room for improvement .
    Moreno did not play . Middlesbrough are having difficulty in getting 
    him a work permit . The PFA are putting restrictions on importing
    players into the league . Foreign players have to meet certain
    criteria , and one of them is that they have to have played in 75%
    of international matches in the last 2 years . Moreno made this ok
    , but now the PFA arn't including friendly matches !! even though
    the player still gets a full cap . Moreno has played in only 27%
    of full competitive matches , due to injury rather than not been 
    good enough . So we await the final verdict from the Dept. of
    Employment .  
    Leeds Utd. signed 2 players from S. Africa who hadn't met the 75%
    criteria ,  however it's very political , we don't want to upset
    the South Africans at the mo . 
    At the same time the PFA are trying to stamp out racism . So by
    banning foreign players , they are being hypocritical .
    
    
    
    Anyway the Boro as you might know won 2-0 away at Southend at the
    week-end , and are now 2 points clear at the top of the first division
    . Hendrie scored both goals as well as the 2 from last week .
    
    
    The team for both matches was :-
    
    
    				Miller
    
    	Cox		Pearson		Vickers		Flemming
    
    
    	Blackmore	Robson		Pollock		Moore
    
    			Hendrie		Wilkinson
    
    
    
    	Bill

    
    
    Robson yesterday revealed he is trying to lure Gary Lineker to
    Middlesbrough . Lineker's contract in Japan is finished in December
    and he is looking to come back to the UK .
    
    Bill

    What's the feeling on Lineker? Is he too much over the hill, or has he
    got one more good season in him to push the 'Boro into the Premier?
    
    Alan

    I think that Lineker, if the trouble with his toe is cleared is well
    able to provide excellent support to a premier or 1st division side.
    The question is more whether he would want to play in England. 
    
    Antony

    
    
    Lineker is certainly not over the hill from an age point of view .
    He is 4 years younger than Robson . The trouble is he has had a
    lot of injury problems in Japan . So if he is fully fit , he 
    would be a wonderful addition to the squad .
    The question is why Robson has leaked the possible signing to
    the media so early . There are two possible answers , either
    Lineker has agreed to come to the Boro or it is a P.R. stunt .
    
    Bor look likely to sign the Southampton reserve striker Colin
    Crump for around 60k .
    
    Boro play Piacenza at home tonight in the Anglo-Italian cup .
    
    Bill
    
    

    I think the Soton striker you are referring to is Colin CRAMB, ex
    Hamilton Accie. If you're paying 60K, you're getting done !
    
    Kev...

    Bill: Please give us a brief rundown of the Piacienza game. Isn't that
    the Itlaian club that signed Alexi Lalas, the US national team player
    of recent World Cup fame? 
    
    Alan

    
    
    Boro 0 - Piacenza 0
    
    5,400
    
    				Miller
    
    Morris		Whyte		Vickers		Taylor
    
    Mustoe		Pollock		Stamp	Todd 	Wright
    
    			Hignett	        
    
    	As you can see no star Boro players and certainly no Lalas .
    
    	I can't remember whick Italian team he went to .
    
    	The game wasn't worth mentioning apart from the fact it was
    	very dirty and Wilkinson was sent off after coming on as sub.
    
    	Bill

    5,400! Gawd, what happened to the glamour of Europe?! My step-father's
    pub in Yarm has a bigger crown than that on a Saturday night....
    
    Alan

    
    Re 175.95
    
    >5,400! Gawd, what happened to the glamour of Europe?!My step-father`s
    >pub in yarm has a bigger crown than that on a Saturday night....
    
    Where is it?...Coronation Street.:-)
    
    Davie

    
    
    5,400 is decent crown for this competition . Considering Boro only
    had 1600 for an Italian game last season .
    
    Don't worry Alan there will be over 23,000 for the home game
    tomorrow against Bolton .
    
    Bill

    Saw the result, 1-0 Boro, in the local paper here Sunday. Was it a good
    game?
    
    Alan

    
    Well I was wrong about the attendance , there was only 19,500 at the
    match .
    Anyway another 3 points in the bag . Though there is still a lot of
    work to be done . The opening 10 mins. were brill , but when Wilkinson
    scored in the 10th minute we decided to take the foot off the pedal
    for sone reason . Bolton had a few opportunities to equalize .
    I was very impressed with their new dutch player Fabian DE Freitas ,
    he gave our defence a few scares .
    Boro are now 2 points clear of Wolves and Millwall .
    
    Bill

    
    
    	Derby 0 Boro 1
    
    	Scorer : Blackmore 
    
    Boro go 3 points clear at the top of division 1 .
    I saw the highlights on the TV last night . It looked a preety dour
    match in the pouring rain , but you can't grumble .
    
    Bill

    
    
    Watford 1 - Boro 1
    
    		Blackmore
    
    Boro remain 3 points clear .
    
    The DOE today granted Jaime Moreno his work permit .
    
    Bill

    
    
    Boro 2 - Sunderland 2
    
    Moore	Russell 2
    Pearson
    
    19,500 ( live on tv )
    
    	Sunderland were robbed 2 points yesterday by a last 10 minute 
    	comeback from the Boro . Although Boro could have had a third
    	when Hendrie missed a sitter in the last few mins.
    	Boro still have a lot of improvement to make .
    
    Bill

    The previous Note mentions   -< last Tees-Wear derby @ Ayresome >- .
    
    Does anyone know when the last game at Ayresome will be? It should be
    quite an occasion. The club	should turn it into a full day celebration
    and let us in for nowt. 
    
    Anyone got a better idea?
    

    
    
    	Last scheduled game at present is the League match against
    	Luton Town on the 29th April . 
    	I think the only thing that could change this is either 
    	a play-off match of the new ground not being ready .
    
    	Incidently to boost season ticket sales the club have announced
    	that the only way to definately see the Luton game is to buy
    	a season ticket .
    
    	Bill

    Does anyone know the fitness of Blackmore, I've heard he's been
    withdrawn from the Wales squad.  Incidently how's he been playing for
    Boro ?
    
    
    Trev

RE: Withdrawn from the Welsh squad.

Who hasn't?

I'm expecting my call-up any moment.  I'm just behind Robbie James on the list.

    Matt,
    
    Your everywhere mate  !!!!!
    
    Apparently, Clayton was cover for Ian Rush !!  I know he's a utility
    player, but up front never !!!
    
    Trev
    
    

    
    Trev,
    
    	when did Rushie move to 'borough??? 8-)
    
    JBG

    Looks like we've invaded another topic.
    
    Lets get outta here, before the Northerners realise.
    
    
    Run!

    They don't mind, I'll just tell em I know clayton (which I do)
    
    Trev

    
    > They don't mind, I'll just tell em I know clayton (which I do)
    
    Yeah, ive heard that Clayton Blackmore has a "Trevor Gorman" poster
    hung up on his wall!
    
    Ian.

<clang>

oops, there goes another name

<clang>

dropped another one

    Sarcasm boys, Hawley your just bitter cos Liverpool are crap.
    
    Matt, I'm getting as bad as you !!!!!
    
    

    
    > Hawley your just bitter cos Liverpool are crap.
    
    
    Team                League                  Pos
    
    Liverpool:		Premier league		4th
    Man Utd:		Premier league		5th
    Middlesborough:	Divison 1		???
    
    The defence rests.
    
    Ian.
    
    

    Early days yet !!!!!!!
    Early days yet!!!!!!!!
    .................................
    .
    ................................
    

    Re:  Early Days yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    I've been following Middlesborough's progress keenly since Robbo took
    over and brought Blackmore with him. It's great to see them performing 
    well, but I thinks it's unlikely that they'll overtake Liverpool before
    the end of the season ;-)))
    
    Jerry. 

    The Gazette on Monday notes Liverpool's interest in Jamie Pollock. 
    
    Hands off!!
    
    If I remember correctly, the last time Liverpool took any interest in
    our midfield players was when they signed Souness and Johnston.
    
    

    Is he any good? Is he a midfielder?
    
    didn't we also get David Hodgson from Middlesborough?
    
    hey anything has to be better than the rubbish we signed from North
    London in recent years.
    
    Regards
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    Hodgson was more of a striker .
    
    As for Pollock , he is definately in the Batty mould .
    
    Bill

    Reported in Evening Gazette last week;
    Foundation stone layed for new 32,000 all seater stadium. Design will
    be 3 sides formed from horseshoe shape and straight stand on the 4th
    side. Provision to increase capacity to 38,000 (I think) for when we
    qualify for Europe.
    
    You've got to be optimistic to follow the Boro!
    
    Still no name confirmed for the new ground - Suggestions pleae, 1 for
    starters;
    
    Ey-sore-am Park
                    

    
    Howzabout.....
    
    
    Thoroughlydepressingtownwithnothingtodo Stadium
    
    8*)
    
    

    How about Robboboro - that rolls off the tongue quite nicely.
    
    Paul.

    On the same theme, how about
    
Wewereprettycrapandwestillwouldbeifwehadntboughtinsomeexmanchesterunitedplayers
    Park
    
    
    
    Much more catchy don't ya think ?
    
    Jerry.

    How about
    
    letschangeeveryinterestingnoteintoadiscussionaboutmanf**ingchesterf**ing-
    unitedusinganytenouslinkavailablebysomeblinkeredinsuferablegit 
    
    !+*%       <----- A smiley from Roy Keane
    
    Paul
    

    Re:   !+*%       <----- A smiley from Roy Keane
    
    
    There you go again Paul !  Why do you persist in dragging Manchester
    United into every reply ?   BTW, everyone in Cork smiles like that - I
    think it's something to do with drinking too much Murphy's and
    Heineken  !
    
    
    Jerry.

I have heard, Middlesborough has bought Jan Age Fjoertoft from Swindown Town ?
( He has played well some years in Austria before).

Is this correct ?

Heribert

                     <<< Note 175.126 by VNA03::HERIBERT >>>

>I have heard, Middlesborough has bought Jan Age Fjoertoft from Swindown Town ?
>( He has played well some years in Austria before).

>Is this correct ?

>Heribert


Correct. The poor mis-guided fool is labouring under the misapprehension that 
he will be playing in the Premier next season.

Stuart

Heribert,

you are correct. Fjortoft was surprisingly the highest profile player
transferred yesterday (the last day of transfers for this season in England).
I think he's scored 15/16 league goals in a struggling side this season.

Good news for Southend as after giving the reds of Bisto (sorry Bristol) a
good beating tomorrow it probably means Swindon will be the 4th team to
be relegated.

    
    re .127
    
    I don't understand , if he plays for Middlesbrough next season
    won't he then be playing Premier League Football ?!?!?!
    As opposed to say ..... er Palace 
    
    Bill

    
    
    Boro to announce their shirt sponsors on Thursday . Rumours are
    that it will be Cellnet @ 1.2M pounds/yr .
    
    I spoke to Bryan yesterday and he said they definately have
    8Million to spend in the summer .
    
    He said he has agreed terms with the club on signing Futre
    the Portugese player .
    
    Other names he is def. going for will be Lee Clarke ,
    Mark Wright ,
    
    And the big news after the cup final will be the signing
    of a very big name from Man Utd. , but he would not divulge
    who it was . However he did say it def. was not McClair .
    When I said Hughes , Kanchelskis  and Sharpe he just 
    smiled .
    
    Def. not buying Gazza or Ripley
    
    
    BIll 

    Bill,
    
    Robbo has made several attempts to sign Lee Sharpe this season.  If I
    was a betting man, I reckon 2m will go on him.
    
    Dave

                     <<< Note 175.131 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>

>    Bill,
    
>    Robbo has made several attempts to sign Lee Sharpe this season.  If I
>    was a betting man, I reckon 2m will go on him.
    
     Dave,

     Thats not to be sniffed at ( allegedly ).

     Stuart

    Stuart,
    
    Surely you're not suggesting that when Sharpe was out of the game with
    meningitis (?sp), he was really a coke-boy and it was all a big con by
    the club simply to protect his reputation ?
    
    Blimey !
    
    Dave

                     <<< Note 175.133 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
                             -< Say it's not true >-

>    Stuart,
    
>    Surely you're not suggesting that when Sharpe was out of the game with
>    meningitis (?sp), he was really a coke-boy and it was all a big con by
>    the club simply to protect his reputation ?
    
>    Blimey !
    
     Dave,

     Mere rumour and "informed" speculation.

     Stuart

     BTW I invested in the Spearhead album, and I bounce around Sainsbury's
         looking like someone who has probably had a toot of "meningitis".

    
    I have it on good authority from someone "inside the game", that Yung
    Lee Sharpe is and never was a coke-head, but ......

    Bill,
    
    Lee Clarke looked like he was on his way, but the expected move of the
    other Lee (Robert) might change Keagan's view.
    
    We wait and see
    
    Peter

    What's going-on with the new signings?
    
    Robbo has 11/12 million to spend - any rumours?

Yeah, he's sold Wilkinson to Tranmere.

Hope this helps ;-)

    Full house every week
    New stadium
    The best players in the world
    Who says we can't win the league
    Lookout Geordies - you know you are second best.
    
    Brazil, Brazil, Brazil
    
    Steve
    

Hi Steve,

Good to see some "life" in the Boro topic. Hope you feel better today.

Cheers,

grahame

    Hi Grahame,
    
    Never felt better!
    
    All we need now is for Bill to show.
    
    Calling Bill Boddy
       
    Steve (who's never stopped smiling since Robbo arrived)

     
    
    	Sorry Steve I very rarely pop in here now , that I have discovered
    	the Boro mailing list , and especially at the moment . 
    	The last 14 months have been superb...
    
    
    	Robson
    
    	1st Div. Champions
    
    	New Stadium
    
    	Boro flying high in the premiership
    
    	and now Juninho
    
    	what next...........??
    
    
    	Bill

    Probably...
    
    
    Loss of Form
    
    Injuries
    
    Relegation
    
    Bankrupcy
    
    Abolition from the League
    
    Despair
    
    .......need I go on !!!
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Ian.
    
    

    More like;
    
    A good cup run
    
    Weekend down the smoke
    
    Back home with the cup
    
    European qualification
    
    Ground extended
    
    Established top 6 recognition
    
    Newcastle get relegated
    
    Sunderland go bust
    
    And when I win the lottery.......
    
    Steve

>>    And when I win the lottery.......


This is probably the only thing that is feasible ;-)

Al

    ...and when I win the Lottery,
    
    I'll be able to afford the wood to board-up your trap!
    
    ...another good thing about the Boro - Chubby Brown.
    
    "No team has torn us apart like the Boro did in the first half"
    Roy Evans - Liverpool manager 25/11/95
    
    Come on BORO
    
    Steve.
    

    Dear Middlesborough types,
    
    Can anyone tell me when Craig Hignett is expected to be fit 
    again?
    
    Ta
    
    Andy
          

    According to the Italian press, Middlesboro' have had a bid for
    Fabrizio Ravanelli (Juventus) turned down.
    
    Actually, Juventus agreed terms with Boro', but it was Old Greyhair who
    decided that he didn't want to move right now.
    
    Dom 

    Well, the radio are reporting that he has now signed for 7.5 mill.
    Amazing.
    
    Michael.

    Heard a whisper that Maldini is on his way - any offers?
    
    This season looks like sh*t or bust year. 
    
    Steve

    
    
     BBC teletext reported that Boro have lodged a 12million bid for
    Batistuta (sp) according to reports from Argentina.
    
     Question is, where the hell are they getting all this money?
    
    Danny.
    

    
    
    
    
    		Who cares !!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    		Come on BORO !

    
    
    Don't you think that Boro ask for trouble... I mean all this trouble
    with the boys from Brazil and they go and sign Emerson's 21 year old
    cousin.
    
    

Off IRN

     Middlesbrough boss Bryan Robson has signed Emerson's cousin Fabio on 
     an 18-month contract.

     Fabio, a skilful 24-year-old midfielder, visited Emerson in November 
     and Emerson asked Robson if he could join Boro in training.

     Robson agreed and Fabio has impressed since, playing one reserve 
     game against Port Vale at the Riverside Stadium.


He doesn't learn does he ?, I thought Fabio was a top notch Male Model ?



Mad

    Middlesborough's appeal has failed. They get no points back. Hurray.
    8-)
    
    mike

    Ironic given that Robson has just been named manager of the month and
    Juninho has been voted player of the month.
    
    
    
    			Stretch.

    
    Right I'm going to open a big can of worms.
    
    Should Middlesborough have had the 3 points reinstated?. Or should the
    FA have given the 3 points to Blackburn in the first place?.
    
    IMHO Middlesborough should have played the game regardless so they
    should have been punished in some way, but should they have had 3 points 
    that they have already earned taken away?
    
    Neal. 

    I think the FA have left themselves wide open to litigation after the
    season ends. If Middlesboro are relegated and the gap between them and 
    team B above is less than 3 points Middlesboro will bring the FA to
    court and quite probably will win their case, thus relegating team B
    who will then go to court etc.etc....
    
    Ray....

    My guess is that 'Boro will do a Tottingham and go to civil court to
    get the ruling overturned. 
    
    I would like to see how the decision was made if there really is
    nothing in the rulebook about these kind of incidents - this was
    Carmans(sp) argument for overturning the points deduction. 
    
    
    
    			Stretch.

    
    
    If they quote FIFA precedent with Estonia getting a reply...then they
    should win the case.  FIFA is, after all, the highest footie authority.
    
    Even though the FA got it right (IMO)...there is a precedent...sad but
    true...
    
    Trevor.....I love worms !

    
    According to reports Juninho will leave Middlesboro if they don't get
    into Europe. Well he'd better start packing his bags hadn't he, because
    I don't think they will make it this year.
    
    Neal.
    

    From what I read, what he said was that he'd like to stay at Boro, and
    if they get into Europe he'll try to persuade the other foreigners to
    stay as well.
    
    Mike
    

Looks like Ravenelli will miss the last two games and the Cup Final.

 According to the SUN (Which never lies), he has a badly torn hamstring and fly 
back to Italy to have treatment.

 Robson has said' It's unlikely he will play again this season in a Boro Shirt'

 IMHO, I'd say it's unlikely he'll ever play again in a Boro Shirt !!


Mad

    Mad  >>IMHO stop pretending, there is nothing humble about you, you are
    just nuts

    
    Well Boro got a 0-0 draw with Rovers last night in the re arranged game
    from December.
    
    Personally Rovers should have been given a goal head start, justice
    would pervail if they now go down. Mind you expect a lengthy court 
    battle.
    
    Pj

    >Well Boro got a 0-0 draw with Rovers last night in the re arranged game
    >from December.
    
    >Personally Rovers should have been given a goal head start, justice
    >would pervail if they now go down. Mind you expect a lengthy court 
    >battle.
    
    Was that not the game where Boro' failed to field a team? I thought
    they had lost their appeal and had been docked the three points...
    
    Dom

Dom,

 I think that they have re-appealed, but the crux of it will be if they get 
relegated, I can see legal moves then.........


Mad

Off soccernet

Monday, May 12 1997 

By Neil Harman 

Middlesbrough are poised to throw English football into chaos by taking the 
Premier League back to court over the points deduction which cost them their 
place in the elite yesterday. 

Chairman Steve Gibson sparked the prospect of a battle this summer when he 
claimed Boro had lost their place because of a decision by 'grey men in grey 
suits behind closed doors'. 

Despite drawing 1-1 at Leeds yesterday, Boro were relegated by two points when 
Coventry kept their top-flight status on the final day of the season with a 2-1 
win at Tottenham. Sunderland were also relegated after their 1-0 defeat at 
Wimbledon. 

Boro were docked three points when they failed to turn up at Blackburn on 
December 21, claiming 23 of their players were either injured or ill. They 
employed George Carman QC in their attempt to have the penalty overturned but 
the League stood firm. 

Now Boro are destined to return to Carman again, although Gibson would not say 
so in so many words. He said last night: 'That's for me to decide at the right 
time. But we've been relegated today not because of what happened on the pitch 
but by these grey men.' 

The Premier League believes the matter should be allowed to rest and spokesman 
Mike Lee said: 'The original decision was taken following full consideration of 
all the facts and was based on clear provisions in the rule book. That decision 
has since been upheld by an independent appeal board.' 

Even so, Gibson is in a situation where he feels he has nothing to lose, not 
with relegation anticipated to be costing the club at least �20million. 

There was further controversy last night when Manchester United manager Alex 
Ferguson entered the furore surrounding Coventry City's remarkable escape at 
Tottenham. 

Ferguson described the 15-minute, traffic-jams delay to the kick-off at White 
Hart Lane which prevented a synchronised finish to the season as 'absolutely 
scandalous'. 

Despite seeing his team officially crowned champions after their 2-0 victory 
over West Ham, Ferguson said: 'Premier League? It's more like a tiddlywinks 
league. Whatever happened to delay the kick-off at White Hart Lane, that 
decision should have been passed on to the other clubs involved in relegation 
battles

Mad

    
    'Boro have the consolation of knowing that they were in the final two
    of every competition'
    
    

    
    
    "Steve Gibson" the Boro chairman is today going to court to try and get
    the FA Cup final result reversed....;-)   ;-)
    
    Pj

Any news on "Gibo" taking the football authorities to the High Court...he'll
have to get a move on the 97/98 premier fixtures are due out next month!

h.