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147.1 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | One more mint Mr President ? | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:05 | 18 |
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>>>> so the whitewash is almost complete.
I totally agree - not one police officer has been sacked or even
charged, including the moron in charge who thought the people climbing
the pitch to escape the crush were 'hooligans trying to stop the
match'.
I know people in Liverpool who are still suffering the effects of
Hillsborough - I also believe there is a lad still on a life support
system somewhere.
It's sickening to think of the time, effort and money spent on trying
to find scape goats for Heysel - yet all the evidence was there to
prosecute the guilty at Hillsborough and NOTHING gets done.
Paul
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147.2 | Life Support | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:08 | 5 |
| The lad on the life support system is a native of Keighley, and he has
been on the life support system at Airedale General Hospital since
April 1989, there are legal moves afoot to switch it off.
jb.
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147.3 | 'twas a sad sad day... | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:23 | 32 |
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I'll enter an opinion on this, not based on actual experience - I
wasn't there and I thank God for that - but on information given to
me by a police officer friend who has been privy to the internal
enquiry "findings"..
There is no doubt that the disaster was a dark day for football and
a personal tragedy for many people, and not only those who lost
friends and relatives. I don't know how best to try and put
something so terrible anywhere near right again..my own feeling is
that it can't be achieved..
But there was an enormous incompetent misjudgement under the duress
of the occasion by the police chief in charge, and that was the
finding of the police enquiry. Many officers who have seen the
report are disgusted at the way it has been handled - again, these
are the words of an officer who does know - and many in the force
feel that criminal proceedings *could* have been brought by the
victims.
It's no comfort to those that have suffered to see the negligent
people get dragged through the courts and publicly pilloried, but
if it served to avoid ANY possible future repitition or similar
incompetence then it should have happened.
It won't though, and no one will be sure what really happened that
day. The police enquiry did draw attention to the behaviour of
*some* of those in the crowd trying to get in at the last minute,
but that the police should have dealt with the situation long before
it became so fraught.
Andy - with black arm-band on..
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147.4 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | A vision of guerrilla goodness. | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:33 | 6 |
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Is this not normal practice? If the Police are at fault, wait for
the original uproar to die down and then quietly slap a couple of
Occifers on the wrist and point them outside again?
Steve
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147.5 | One bad orchard (sometimes) | ARRODS::OHAGANB | The Voodoo Rhythm Devils | Tue Jan 14 1992 13:50 | 14 |
| Generally speaking, as if I would, you can't really hope for much
from a enquiry carried out by the Police Complaints Authority can
you? A body, independent of the police, is needed, and is long
overdue.
And it's not as if football fans don't already know this without
the example prompted by Hillsbrough. You just have to ask
yourself how effective your complaints would be should you happen
to encounter some of the more nastier aspects of Football policing
on a Saturday afternoon. Must'nt forget to mention "only one bad
apple" etc for those who view comments like these as being unfair to
the Boys in Blue.
Barry.
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