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Title: Soccer Football Conference
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Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
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145.0. "African Nations Cup 1992" by XSTACY::PATTISON (Seek.. Locate.. Exterminate...) Mon Jan 13 1992 12:39

   Don't know if anybody's interested.. but the African Championships
   kicked off yesterday in Senegal. 
   
   For those with cable TV, Screensport are covering the games. I watched
   some of the opening match which ended

   Cameroun 1 Morocco 0

   The cameroons looked a shadow of side that got to the world cup 
   quarter-finals.. and this game was very slow going - a case of nobody 
   wanting to make a mistake. Morocco were unlucky.

   The next match was Senegal v Nigeria, and I only saw the first half
   which ended 1-1. The referee seemed highly biased to the home side..
   Nigeria were impressive on the break and have a world class striker (but
   I don't know how to spell his name...)

   Dave

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145.1Eagles get everywhereYUPPY::PATEMANLife's a One Take MovieMon Jan 13 1992 12:415
    C4 are planning a program covering the championships as a whole to be
    shown before the Super Bowl. Their reporter is Englands other star with
    cruciate problems, John Salako.
    
    Paul
145.2New FIFA ruleXSTACY::KMCGRATHMon Jan 13 1992 12:5519
Nigeria ended up winning that game 2-1, although I didn't see it.

I did see a tiny bit of the Cameroon game and the one interesting bit was Morocco
being awarded an indirect free-kick from 5 yards. The Cameroon wall (11 players)
were about three yards from the ball and were refusing to move. The ref wanted 
them all on the goal line but they wouldnt move. Eventually he booked one player
and Morocco took their free. All the Cameroon players rushed him before he kicked
the ball and were about one foot from the ball when the kick was taken. Needless 
to say, no goal. THe ref didnt order the kick to be retyaken, which I found 
strange. 

What was interesting was the reason this free kick was awarded in the first 
place. A cross came over which was easy for the goalie so he tried to catch it
and fumbled and dropped it before catching it again properly. This apparantly 
is a violation of a new FIFA rule whereby the goalie can only catch the ball
once. I'm sure the rule is only meant to cover tge case where the keeper catches 
the ball and then starts wasting time by rolloing it around before picking it up
again for the kick out. It was a very harsh decision for the CAmeroon keeper, as
it was accidental.
145.3Nations Cup live from DakarGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Mon Jan 13 1992 13:4115
    
    Cameroon were fortunate to win I thought.  Kana Biyik scored the only
    goal on 22 minutes (yes it was Kana not Oman).  Morocco lost keeper
    Zaki through injury and he'll be a huge loss if he misses the remainder
    of the tournament.  Makanaky was the best of the Roons.
    
    Nigeria deserved their win over Senegal although they left it late
    scoring with 2 minutes remaining.  Siasia had given them the lead on 13
    minute with Bokende (sp?) equalising for the hosts.
    
    Tongiht Egypt v Zambia is live at 6.30 GMT (7.30 Europe) with
    highlights at 10.00 GMT.  I presume there is also a game in Group C
    today.
    
    Gary. 
145.4First round gamesSCOAYR::GMCKEETue Jan 14 1992 13:529
    
    Yesterday's Results
    ===================
    
    Algeria 0  	Ivory Coast 3 (Algeria are the current holders)
    
    Egypt   0 	Zambia      1
    
    
145.5SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Tue Jan 14 1992 13:5522
    
    Further results:
    
    Group C:  Ivory Coast 3, Algeria 0  (Bit of an upset)
    
    Group D:  Zambia 1, Eygpt 0
    
    re .2 (Rathole alert)
    
    � This apparently is a violation of a new FIFA rule whereby the goalie
    can only catch the ball once.
    
    The team I play for in the Reading and district league suffered from
    the this new rule just last Saturday. Our keeper parried the ball,
    patted it down as it ran away from him and then caught it; the ref.
    decided that the ball was under control before he patted it (ridiculous
    since he was blocking a shot) and awarded a free kick three yards from
    our goal-line!! Obviously they scored, putting us 3-1 down with 5 mins. 
    left. Needless to say, I think the exact meaning of this rule should be
    sorted out PDQ.
    
    jeff
145.6More great African footballGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Wed Jan 15 1992 13:1133
    
    2 very good games last night
    
    Morocco 1 Zaire 1
    
    Cracking match 0-0 after 83 minutes when Zaire are awarded a penalty. 
    This was weakly hit and well saved.
    
    89 minutes Moroccan clean through, miles offside, lineman flags,
    referee overrules, 1-0 Morocco.  Chaos ensues.
    
    90 minutes Zaire snatch a dramatic last gasp equaliser.
    
    Sorry I don't remeber the scorers but even without the late drama it ws
    still a cracking game full of good football.  Pity one team has to go
    out.  Zaire need a draw v Cameroon to qualify or a 2-1, 3-2 defeat.  A
    1-0 win for Cameroon means Zaire and Morocco draw lots.  
    
    Nigeria 2 Kenya 1
    
    Kenya were supposed to be the whipping boys of this group.  They
    started better and tested the keeper early on however 2 quick goals
    killed the game.  The Kenyans battled back and got a vital late penalty
    which could yet see them through.  Basically Kenya and Senegal are
    level on points and goal difference.  They meet tomorrow.  The winner
    qualifies along with the impressive Nigerians.  If they draw they draw
    lots.
    
    Tonight
    Ghana v Zambia
    Ivory Coast v Congo
    
    Gary. 
145.7Senegal '92RTOEU::RDELANEYBrace Yerself Gertrude......Wed Jan 15 1992 13:267
    > 90 minutes Zaire snatch a dramatic last gasp equaliser.
    
    With at least 5 Zairions (or whatever) offside.......
    
    The standard of refereeing is terrible but some good football.
    
    	- Robin......
145.8SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Tue Jan 21 1992 15:028
    
    Results of yesterday's quarter-finals:
    
    Ghana 2 Congo 1
    Ivory Coast 1 Zambia 0  (A.E.T.)
    
    jeff 
    
145.9semi finalsXSIVE::KMCGRATHTue Jan 21 1992 15:3717
Cameroon beat host nation Senegal 1-0 on Sunday, also on Sunday Nigeria
beat Zaire.

So, the semi-final line-up is :

Cameroon  v  Ivory Coast
Nigeria   v  Ghana

Having watched a few of the matches up to now, I have to say that the
standards in African football are very low. They can't control a ball,
cross it, and they just don't put any moves together. Nearly all the goals
scored in this championship have been very scrappy affairs.  

Cameroons performance at Italia 90 seems to have been one swallow not making
a summer, or a flash in the pan. They have a long way to go!

 - Kevin
145.10African footballGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Tue Jan 21 1992 16:3023
    
    Re -1,
    
    I thought the football was of a high standard although the pitches
    leave a lot to be desired.
    
    As for the flash in the pan, well
    
    Algeria 2 West Germany 1 1982 - Algeria were cheated out of a 2nd round
    place.
    
    Morocco won their group in Mexico and then lost to a late German goal.
    
    Algeria drew with Northern Ireland but were unfortunate to come up
    against Brazil and Spain who both had excellent World Cups.
    
    Cameroon's exploits in Italy were no flash in the pan.
    
    Pele figures the Africans will dominate world football byt he ned of
    the decade. I wouldn't go that far but certainly these sides are no
    pushovers and will continue to make a major impact on the world stage.
    
    Gary. 
145.12Rose (as in blood red with a hint of black) tinted specsVARESE::NOLANGTue Jan 21 1992 18:5550
	"They can't control a ball, cross it, and they just don't put 
	any moves together. Nearly all the goals scored in this championship 
	have been very scrappy affairs."

Isn't it funny what a short memory some people have? Can this "flash in the pan"
that our author refers to be the same team that for half an hour made the 
English side look positively stupid? Can it be the same side that, with a little
more awareness of the "professional" skills of the the modern centre forward, 
would have bundled our lillywhite super-heros out of the Cup? Can this apparent
footballing blindness have something to do with the fact that African teams have 
a startling tendancy to be BLACK, and show scant respect for footballing 
history? 

As one reply pointed out; African teams have less to be embarassed about in 
their World Cup peformances than the likes of Scotland. And I, for one, prefer 
to keep as a souvenir of Italy 90, the exploits of Cameroon rather than the 
image of one well-used media megastar in "excellent condition".

Egypt who have a record second to none in African Club competition, with the
likes of Zamalek always featuring strongly, beat Czechoslovakia 2-0, Poland 4-0.
and, if my memory serves me right, Finland 2-1 in warm up matches prior to the 
African Nation's Cup tournament. But they then could not get past a Zambian side 
with a defence that has drawn nothing but praise from all the reviewers I have 
heard on French, British, and African radio. They and Egypt are the only two
sides in the tournament to have an African trainer. 

In the last African Nation's Cup, the two teams who qualified for the World Cup
in Italy (Egypt and Cameroon) went out before the 1/4 final stage, evidence in
itself that there is a wealth of talent yet to be discovered. And let's not
forget that the few club teams in Africa that are anything close to being
professional are the teams run by the Armed Forces.


    "However defensively like all African teams they seem a bit hopeless."

Could this be something of a generalisation, or am I perhaps missing something?
Two hundred or so talent scouts from all over Europe (including a huge 
contingent from the notoriously arrogant Italian League) are currently slinking 
from hotel to hotel in Dakar with checkbook and notepad at the ready in the 
hope, one assumes, of signing up for a snip he latest attacking sensation from 
the Dark Continent. Even the Italian National Coach is in attendance along with
representatives fromn the Italian FA. One assumes they will take the opportunity
to swap notes over a gin sling on the beachside terrace with Gordon Taylor 
and the gang from the UK.

It must have something to do with the fact that these new talents, like all
Africans, are big, muscular, and good at sport. Oh yeah, and England put a
hatfull past Egypt in the Worl Cup, too.


145.13ASKFOR::HAIGHA vision of guerrilla goodness.Wed Jan 22 1992 09:0513
    >Where Hatfull = 1.
    
    	I must agree with the last note. I mean you can't say in one
    sentence, 'they are good going forward' and in the next "However
    defensively like all African teams they seem a bit hopeless" when most
    of the games have been low scoring affairs.
    
    	I think the difference between the African teams of the recent past
    and the ones I've seen in this tournament is, they've got wise! They
    play alot more cautiously than they used to, and have the ability to 
    slow games down. Which I personally find regretable.
    
    		Steve
145.14SIOG::SPENCERPeter Spencer @DBO 827-2286Wed Jan 22 1992 10:303
    Unfortunately, Steve, a lot of the African players have been snapped up
    by European clubs since Italia 90 and picked up the worst traits of
    European football.
145.15No pressure, easier to playGOTA1::APPELQVISTYour man on the Northern frontWed Jan 22 1992 11:2515
    
    African nations have one big advantage in a world cup play-off, No one
    expects them to survive the first round. They can play relaxed, and
    anything but last place in the group is a big success. One of the major
    reasons tha Sweden did so poorly in Italy was the expectations from the
    home press and commentators. The loss against Brazil was concidered a
    catastrophy and put an even greater pressure on the team. Proffesionals
    are more good on handeling pressure, England proved that when they
    turned 1-2 against Cameroon to a 3-2 victory.
    
    If Camerron qualify qualify for US-94, they will have some espectations
    of doing well. I don't think they will stand up to them. Every nation
    will bare Italia-90 in mind and won't take the Cameroons lightly.
    
    Mats
145.16SO FAR...XSTACY::KMCGRATHThu Jan 23 1992 11:2530
Here's a summary of what's happened so far....

Cameroon   1 Morocco     0         Cameroon    1 1 0 2 1 3
Morocco    1 Zaire       1         Zaire       0 2 0 2 2 2
Cameroon   1 Zaire       1         Morocco     0 1 1 1 2 1
----------------------------------------------------------
Senegal    1 Nigeria     2         Nigeria     2 0 0 4 2 4
Nigeria    2 Kenya       1         Senegal     1 0 1 4 2 2
Senegal    3 Kenya       0         Kenya       0 0 2 1 5 0
----------------------------------------------------------
Egypt      0 Zambia      1         Ghana       2 0 0 2 0 4
Zambia     0 Ghana       1         Zambia      1 0 1 1 1 2
Egypt      0 Ghana       1         Egypt       0 0 2 0 2 0
----------------------------------------------------------
Algeria    0 Ivory Coast 3         Ivory Coast 1 1 0 3 0 3
Congo      0 Ivory Coast 0         Congo       0 2 0 1 1 2
Algeria    1 Congo       1         Algeria     0 1 1 1 4 1


Quarter Finals :

Nigeria     1 Zaire       0
Cameroon    1 Senegal     0
Ivory Coast 1 Zambia      0
Ghana       2 Congo       1

Semi Finals :

Nigeria  v  Ghana
Cameroon v  Ivory Coast
145.17XSTACY::KMCGRATHFri Jan 24 1992 11:314
Semi Final Results :

Nigeria  1  Ghana        2
Cameroon 0  Ivory Coast  0 - Ivory Coast win 3-1 on penalties
145.18Camels v. Ivory ChaosHUGH::RAYNERTFri Jan 24 1992 13:107
    Did anyone see the Cameroon v. I Coast game last night?
    
    It went to penalties (the game+extra time had about 2 or 3 shots on
    goal) and the Ivory Coast keeper saved 3 penalties - but the last 
    penalty from Cameroon as pathetic... He just stood next to the penalty
    spot and scooped the ball towards the keeper, no run up etc. The keeper
    could not fail to save it!
145.19Ghana look set for victoryGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Fri Jan 24 1992 13:4218
    
    Nigeria v Ghana - great game.  The right result - just about.  Nigeria
    led after 12 minutes with Ghana equalising a minute before the break.
    An early goal in the 2nd half sent Ghana into the final.  nigeria had a
    defender sent off on 75 mins but still hit the underside of the bar
    late on.
    
    Cameroon - Ivory Coast - poor game.  Omam-Biyik missed a penalty in
    normal time and his brother Kana-Biyik hit the inside of the post. 
    Cameroon did not deserve to win it for their negative attitude (they
    had the same attitude in the � final v Senegal.  The Ivory Coast's
    keeper made some great penalty saves particularly the one from
    Omam-Biyik in the shoot out.
    
    Ghana are hot favourites for the final and I can't see Ivory Coast
    upsetting them.
    
    Gary. 
145.20MACNAS::VBLAKEFri Jan 24 1992 13:4317
    
    
    	Cameroon played like zombies last night, nothing like the 
    	performances they gave during the last WC.
    	That sub they brought on MAKANAKY  was pathetic, he just ambled
    	around the place, then proceeded to take the 1st penalty
     	and just about passed it to the I.Coast keeper.
    
    	Overall I was delighted to see the Ivory coast win, but
    	their keeper took a bad knock late in game, hope he is
    	ok for the final.
    
    	I think Ghana are a much better team and should win teh final.
    
    
    	Vinnie.
    
145.21Pr�sentementULYSSE::CHAMPOLLIONCome back, �ric!Fri Jan 24 1992 14:0712
    Looks like African footballer of the year Abedi Ayew Pel� (Olympique
    Marseille) is having a great tournament.
    
    Don't underestimate the Ivorians (sp?). Fofana, Traor� and the keeper
    whose name escapes me are no fools.
    
    At least, the two most exciting teams, which scored the most goals,
    made it to the final.
    
    I favour Ghana to win narrowly.
    
    �JF?
145.22Fofana could be outGALVIA::SPAINThere's always the U.S.Fri Jan 24 1992 14:115
    
    JF, Fofana has missed the last 2 games through injury and he must be
    doubtful for the final.
    
    Gary.
145.23Pele out!MACNAS::VBLAKEFri Jan 24 1992 15:208
    
    
    	Pele is out of Sunday's final, he picked up 2 yellow cards.
    
    	His loss is a big blow to Ghana.
    
    Vinnie.
    
145.24The Final: resultXSTACY::PATTISONSeek.. Locate.. Exterminate...Sun Jan 26 1992 23:0410
	FINAL SCORE
	===========

	Ghana 0 Ivory Coast 0

	By all accounts an anti-climax, like the World Cup final was.
	Ivory Coast won after a penalty shoot-out.	
    
	Dave
145.25RIGHTO::HAIGHA vision of guerrilla goodness.Mon Jan 27 1992 09:589
    
    Yeah but what a marathon Penalty session it was. 4-4 after each team
    had shoot the five, then all were scored up to 10-10. Which meant the
    players who took the first ones were on again! Leboah missed Ghanas
    next penalty and Ivory Coast won 11-10! The game itself wasn't to good,
    but really Ghana should have wrapped it up in normal time.
    
    
    		Steve
145.26Spot on ...ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Jan 27 1992 10:485
    
    The highlight being the penalties taken by the two keepers ... you'd
    have thought they'd have made some effort to save those, eh ? ..
    
    Ads.
145.27the aftermathXSTACY::KMCGRATHWed Jan 29 1992 12:286
Just something from the Vogon News this morning...

The Senegalese manager, Claude Le Roy has been sacked. 
The host nation reached the quarter final where they were put out by 
Cameroon. Tough job being a manager, what with Real Madrid's boss, Raddy 
Antic, being relieved of his duties, with them top of their league...ouch!
145.28what happened in 94?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanMon Apr 11 1994 18:246
    Anyone who won this year's competition - I heard the final was Nigeria
    V zambia.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
145.29KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJShy Ann (Indian Virgin)Mon Apr 11 1994 18:496
    
    Zambia 1-2 Nigeria
    
    Regards,
    
    Se�n