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Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

140.0. "MANAGER OF THE YEAR" by ULYSSE::BREADIE () Wed Dec 18 1991 12:18

    Seeing as how it's competition time, lets have your votes for
    
    MANAGER OF THE YEAR 1991.
    
    usual rules, enter for your own country and for Europe.
    
    
    Scotland
    --------
    1. Joe Jordan
    2. Walter Smith
    3. Tommy McLean
    
    Europe  {oh sh*t I don't know the names}
    ------
    1.  Guy at Sampdoria
    2.  Guy at Kaiserlauten
    3.  Andy Roxborough
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140.1go kenny goKERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Wed Dec 18 1991 12:276
    i nominate Kenny Dalglish for Manager of the year.
    he has proved that his success with Liverpool was not a fluke by
    turning around Blackburns fortunes with some astute buying.
    His team now looks a good bet for promotion.
    Ian.
    
140.2No way JoseSUBURB::LAINSBURYAI couldn't believe it !Wed Dec 18 1991 15:077
    
    When the going gets tough, Kenny gets going..... but in the wrong
    direction.
    
    Some quality for manager of the year.
    
    Andy.
140.3DittoQETOO::CHAVESA broken clock is right twice a dayWed Dec 18 1991 16:215
    ....He did "MANAGE" to get the hell out of town when things got tough.
    
    I'd say that alone is worth 1 vote.
    
    JC
140.4WARNUT::PICKERINGSSimon PickeringWed Dec 18 1991 16:3412
    England:
    
    1. ferguson
    2. ferguson
    3. ferguson
    
    Europe:
    
    1. ferguson
    2. ferguson
    3. ferguson
    
140.5Fergie's the ManESSB::BLONGThe Scousers Trophy Cabinet is EmptyWed Dec 18 1991 17:096
Yes it has to be Fergie, after bringing the European Cup Winners Cup and
the European Super Cup to Old Trafford, and leading a blazing trail in the
league, he has no opposition.

�rian.

140.6dont make me laughKERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Wed Dec 18 1991 17:2213
    
    dont make me laugh,
    all that guy can be praised for doing is getting in a half-decent
    keeper for once and spotting Ryan Giggs potential - if indeed he did
    that. I cant see much difference apart from these 2 exceptions between
    United now, and United last year. The reason that you are at the top 
    is because we (Liverpool) and Arsenal arent playing to the same level
    this year, otherwise you probably would not be top!
    as for the ECWC, yeah, they got it, mainly thanks to Mark Hughes
    diving, but he sensationally managed to get you knocked out of it
    this year...
   Ian.
    
140.7the cambersKERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Wed Dec 18 1991 17:248
    re.6
    last line...
    'he' refers to Alex Ferguson.
    
    who is the manager of Cambridge United?
    they have done very well recently...
    Ian.
    
140.8You're so narrow minded, expand your horizon man!!!!XSTACY::MDUNPHYThe Hit ManWed Dec 18 1991 17:2722
like:

    England:
    
    1. GG  
    2. GG
    3. GG
    
    Europe:
    
    1. GG
    2. GG
    3. GG
 
    World:
	
    1. GG
    2. GG
    3. GG


		Mick :-)))
140.9GO ALEX!!!!!!DUCK::DAVIESGWed Dec 18 1991 17:429
    
    
    go fergie!!
    
    
    He's definitely the only bloke for the award. 
    
    Greg.
    
140.10ALEX IS THE MANBRUMMY::MASONWed Dec 18 1991 18:1814
    I agree wholeheartedly. Who else could be a serious contender. He is
    not only the creator of the most solid defence in the whole of the
    first division, he has sought, and found the most exciting young talent
    in Lee Sharpe (soon to be back) and Ryan Giggs. He was also responsible
    for bringing Mark Hughes back to English football - whether you love
    him or hate him you must admit that he is a great player. All of this
    (and much more besides..ECWC...etc..) has culminated in Manchester United 
    having the most solid and exciting squad in the first division with 
    serious title ambitions and chances.
    
    By far and away the only bloke for the award.
    
    J
    
140.11:^)KERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Wed Dec 18 1991 18:274
    nomination: Ian Branfoot - Southampton...
    :^)
    Ian.
    
140.12Has to be Johnny King.ESSB::MCUNNIFFEd i g i t a lWed Dec 18 1991 18:3422
  The manager of the year isn't Fergie or Graham but one second div. manager
who made the most effective killing during the summer. That manager has to be
one Johnny King of Tranmere Rovers who swooped to sign that most prolific of
strikers, John Aldridge or TGA as he is known in this conference. In fact, that
must be the signing of the century. I can see this being a quiz question for
years to come. What 2nd div. manager signed a player from Spain who then 
notched 27 goals before Christmas??????

 English Manager of year
 -----------------------
  1. Johnny King (for his signing of TGA)
  2. Graeme Souness (for leading injury hit Liverpool to UEFA QF'S)
  3. Kenny Dalglish (for steering Blackburn to top of 2nd div)

 European Manager of year
 ------------------------
    Same as the above    

      Seasonal Regards,

          Cunno
140.13cunno is off againKERNEL::HAWLEYIits a monster!!!Wed Dec 18 1991 18:396
    to: all noters apart from Martin...
    
    were you expecting anything different?!?
    :-)
    Ian.
    
140.14Trevor Francis should get it.QETOO::CHAVESA broken clock is right twice a dayWed Dec 18 1991 18:4113
    
    
    In my opinion the manager of the year award should go to someone that
    got his team to perform above and beyond (fan??) expectations. Someone
    that obviously has the best talent, which is the case with Ferguson, is
    expected to win and should not therefore be considered. I don't know what 
    anyone expected of the Owls, if anything, but I doubt anyone expected them
    to be where they are at this point in the season. By comparing last
    year' final standings to current standings, I'd say Trevor Francis has
    done the most remarkable job of anyone in the first division. Besides,
    he still plays, doesn't he? 
    
    JC
140.15QETOO::CHAVESA broken clock is right twice a dayWed Dec 18 1991 18:5015
    Regarding Cunno nimination:
    
    He should be nominated for BOZO of the year award. Regardless of
    of how great TGA may be, and I'll give you the benefit of a doubt,
    signing him was an expensive, idiotic move. What has he done for
    Tranmere? Are they better off this year then last? I don't think so.
    For the same money they probably could have gotten 3 or 4 youngsters
    and finish in the same place in the standings and end up with some
    possibilities for the future. As it is, they'll end up with a 50
    goal scorer but no better off then they were beofre him. 
    
    Plain common sense says you don't invest mega-pounds for a single
    player unless you belive you he can make a difference. TGA hasn't.
    
    (BTW, Cunno. I got the picture. Thanks)
140.16c'mon the JAMBO'SKURMA::CPATRICKI'm The Transparent ChildWed Dec 18 1991 21:082
    
     Joe Joe SUPER Joe Super Joe Jordan
140.17BEAGLE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don't go oink!Thu Dec 19 1991 09:438
    Warrabout the manager of Barnet then? Brought his team into the 4th
    division, and there they are, near the top. And they score a lot of
    goals as well.
    
    Just my 2p'th.
    
    Stevo
    
140.18He deserves it !!!SCOAYR::GMCKEEThu Dec 19 1991 09:4527
    
    Scotland
    ========
    
    1. Alec Miller -Hibs: After almost going bust, he has lifted his team 
    		    with 2 signings Burridge and Wright and went on to win
    		    the Skol Cup beating Rangers in the semi.
    
    2. Joe Jordan -Hearts: Sitting at the top of the League after almost
    		   at the bottom the same time last year says it all. 
    		   Incase any Jambo's disagree, I'll be the first to
    		   nominate Jordan next year IF they manage to win the
    		   league.
    
    3. Jim Jeffries -Falkirk: As with Alex Totten of St Johnstone last year
    		     Jeffries has brought his team into the Premier League
    		     and established a base which should see them remain up
    		     for a good few seasons.
                                                                     
    
    Special mention for Watty Smith for continuing with the good work HE
    has been doing for the last 5 seasons.
    
    As for Europe I'm not that sure, but Fergie should be in with a shout
    as should the Sampdoria manager.
    
    Gordon... 
140.19Brian Clough....OBEMACNAS::MJGREANEYIAN WOAN...MY LEFT FOOTThu Dec 19 1991 10:5710
    There's only one contender,
    
    
    
   ........ Cloughie.
    
  .....  the longest serving First Division manager.
    
    
    
140.20CURRNT::PAGEDThank you very much, and good nightThu Dec 19 1991 11:375
    Its got to be David Pleat !!!
    
    Why ?
    
    Well somebody had to do it !
140.21for all the purists out thereYUPPY::SEABURYSThu Dec 19 1991 14:465
    Glenn Hoddle of Swindon, for publicly stating that his team would never
    play route one football...
    
    Stew.
    
140.22QETOO::CHAVESA broken clock is right twice a dayThu Dec 19 1991 16:006
    Ref: .18
    
    Is he the same Jordan that once played at Man. Utd? Also known as the
    toothless wonder?
    
    JC
140.23The very man.....RTOEU::RDELANEYShe's a face like a boiled cabbage...Thu Dec 19 1991 16:191
    
140.24Beeeeees!ARRODS::OHAGANBAre you with me Doctor Wu?Thu Dec 19 1991 17:381
    Barry Fry - Barnet.
140.25One Walter Smith....MASALA::GMOORESAY FREESat Dec 21 1991 00:0514
    SCOTLAND
    ---------
    
    1 Walter smith
    2 Joe Jordon
    3 Alex Miller
     
    EUROPE
    -------
    
    1 Alex Ferguson
    2 Kenny Dalglish
    3 Howard Wilkinson
                  
140.26TOP MENGOVON::LINEYSun Dec 22 1991 18:2410
    _ENGLAND_
 1  Ian Branfoot
 2  Dave Stringer
 3  Teddy Pearce(Farnborough Town)
    
    _EUROPE_
 1  San Marino Manager
 2  Faroe Islands Manager
 3  Graham Taylor
    
140.27Fergie, JordanTROOA::PBLANEYAlpha, the final frontier.Thu Jan 02 1992 18:2814
    Fergie #1, no doubt, at least for England. ECWC, Super Cup, and for
    persistence - even with all the money, a manager has to make the team
    play. It is much harder to make highly paid (over paid) 'professionals'
    (?) play than a young enthusiastic team. So true for Man. Utd, where
    winning is expected, albeit absent for a while. My other vote goes to
    the greatest of them all this past 10 years though, Cloughie. He is in
    a class by himself - no money, but makes great players every year. 
    
    Joe Jordan (ex Utd of course) should make it in Scotland, unless Liam
    Brady makes a miraculous turn-around. The Rangers manager should also
    be commended for maintaining the mess Sourpuss must have left behind.
    
    In Europe, who knows, and who cares! I'll take Jack Charlton though
    long before that establishment boy Taylor. 
140.28Malcolm CrosbyFUTURS::DAGLESSMay 16th, 1990Mon Jan 13 1992 14:088
	He takes over a demoralised and dis-heartened team at the start
of 1992, and wins the first three games, 2-0, 3-0, and 6-2.

	He finishes the 1991/92 season as second division champions and
FA Cup winner.

	How can anyone match that achievement?
140.29?MACNAS::TMCDONAGHThu Jan 16 1992 14:074
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Malcolm Crossby and who is he manager
    of?????
    
    Tom Mc 
140.30southend?KERNEL::HAWLEYIprophet of Mu MuThu Jan 16 1992 14:121
    
140.31COMICS::WATTERSONOne more mint Mr President ?Thu Jan 16 1992 14:2513
    
    Re last few..
    
    He's Sunderland's manager - typical North east reaction, their team
    wins a couple of games and their supporters think they're world
    beaters..... :-)
    
    Southend ????? - Don't these training courses teach you ANYTHING Mr
    Hawley ???? (which one are you on any 'Janet & John Part II' ? :-)
    
    Paul 
    
    Paul
140.32:-)KERNEL::HAWLEYIprophet of Mu MuThu Jan 16 1992 14:306
    No, Paul,
    its 'winning friends and influencing people'
    you know, the one you got rejected by because they thought you were
    beyond help...
    Ian.
    
140.33FUTURS::DAGLESSMay 16th, 1990Mon Jan 20 1992 16:176
    
.31>    He's Sunderland's manager - typical North east reaction, their team
.31>    wins a couple of games and their supporters think they're world
.31>    beaters..... :-)
    
	I don't think they're world beaters. I *KNOW* they are!!!!!
140.34Brain, sorry Brian Robson, where NOW....*8]METSYS::STEVENSONJudge Paul Rendall presides !!!!!!!Mon Jan 27 1992 09:4218

	Right then, the big question is WHERE IS ROBBO' GOING AS MANAGER,
	after PSV dumped on him yesterday.....*8]


		CLUB			ODDS
		----			----
		Newcastle		1-4
		Wimbledon		2-1
		Notts County		50-10
		Japan			6-1     (with Lineker)
		Sunderland		8-1
		Notts County		50-10



			Cheers Al.
140.35TRUCKS::SANTMon Jan 27 1992 10:0720
    
    	Favourite's gotta be Sunderland, although I heard they were also
    	interested in Neil Warnaock of Notts County.
    	
    	Newcastle maybe - Ossie's surely on borrowed time at St James'..
    
    	Feel sorry for that new bloke (Crosby?), he's not done so bad so far
    	 - I think it's four wins in four games!!- yet he probably won't get 
    	the job permanently.
    
    	Actually Al, I'm not sure PSV did "dump" on Robson...if I remember 
    	rightly Robson took the job on with the understanding that he would
    	win the European Cup in two seasons or leave. PSV have been winning
    	the Dutch league since before he arrived, so he's not really improved
    	things all that much for them really.
    
    	Apart from which they must be fed up with his TV interviews by
    	now..	8-)
    
    	Andy.
140.36Mr Pedantic writes ...ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueMon Jan 27 1992 10:464
    
    re .34 -
    
    	Bobby, surely ...
140.37No thanksFUTURS::DAGLESSMay 16th, 1990Mon Jan 27 1992 13:5019
    
.35>   	Favourite's gotta be Sunderland, although I heard they were also
.35>   	interested in Neil Warnaock of Notts County.
    	
.35>   	Feel sorry for that new bloke (Crosby?), he's not done so bad so far
.35>   	 - I think it's four wins in four games!!- yet he probably won't get 
.35>   	the job permanently.
    
	Unless things start going wrong, I think Malcolm Crosby will keep
the job, till the end of the season. If he gets promotion, or wins the cup
(unlikely now that Greavsie has tipped us), he will have to be given the
job permanently.

	As Robson is not available till the end of the season, I doubt he
will be considered at Roker, until Crosby has had a chance to maintain
his success.

	You're right, it is 4 out of 4, which included a 3-0 cup win over
Port Vale, who become the victims on Saturday, to make it 5 out of 5.
140.38Manager of the YearAYOV27::BDOCHERTYFri May 08 1992 17:389
    Scotland Alex McDonald
    
    England Howard Wilkinson
    
    Holland Bobby Robson
    
    Italy Parma Manager
    
    Ayrshire Tommy Burns
140.39ESSB::MCUNNIFFEThe Mancs are out of the cupThu May 14 1992 19:157
    Ireland  Pat Byrne

    England Graeme Souness

    Scotland Walter Smith

      
140.40Shurely shome mishtake!SUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Fri May 15 1992 09:227
    
    re .39
    
    � England Graeme Souness
    
    Who he?
    
140.41PEKING::NAGLEJFri May 15 1992 11:154
    
    Dave Basset and Trevor Francis get my vote.
    
    JN.
140.42it's got to be......MACNAS::MJGREANEYWhat's another year?Mon May 18 1992 09:367
    Anyone for shredded wheat????
    
    
    Cloughie's the man!!!
    
    
    M.J.
140.43SEDSWS::WILLMOTTTue May 19 1992 10:536
    
    
    Bassett would get my vote aswell ( My tip to win something next year)
    
    If Wilkinson gets it he should go halves with Fergurson, for being
    such a nice chap and blowing it.
140.44IRNBRU::HOWARDShower me with sugar lumpsMon Apr 07 1997 13:1013
    How's about we revive this note?...
    
    My vote for club manager is as follows....
    
    England       - Joe Kinnear, Wimbledon
    Scotland      - Tommy McLean, Dundee United
    International - Lippi, Juventus
    club manager  
    
    International - Craig Brown, Scotland (14 clean sheets in last 15
    		    competition matches, best defensive record in the world)
    
    Ray....