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Conference trucks::football;1

Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

115.0. "Cunno Is Innocent !!" by CURRNT::PAGED (The Flatulator) Thu Nov 07 1991 16:31

Having been branded a gobshite myself in various notes conferences and having
had "several" notes deleted/hidden I know how Cunno feels.

Yes its a public conference Mr Moderator, yes we have to be careful what we say,
how we say it etc,etc. However, its well known (to me at least) that  there is a
certain "pinhead mentality" that covers noting in general like a rash !!

What do I mean by that ? Well... Some people think its their moral duty to get
up on their "high horses" and dictate to others what they should be thinking and
how they should be acting. This generally involves putting the poor moderator
(unless the moderator himself is of the same mentality -  which happens) in the
position where he has to remove a note following a "complaint" from someone who
gets his colon in a clinch because of what someone else is thinking. 

Ok, if its blatantly personal and downright offensive then fair enough, but if
people get persecuted for a mild piece of idle banter (as was the case
yesterday) then something is wrong. 

The problem is though its always the "moaning minnies" who win in the end.
People who enter stuff "tongue in cheek", to lighten up the day for their fellow
noters get clobbered purely to salvage the fragile egos of those who feel
"offronted".

Now this conference only has a mild rash at the moment but  as a result of
yesterday things look like they are getting worse. We all need to grow up a bit.
I read FOOTBALL every day, I shall do every day. I enjoy doing that. So does 
Cunno, one of the more enlightened contributors in here. Consider this note a
petition to get him back on-line. Make yourself heard by replying to this note.

Dave

PS This is not intended to cause a fight or any bad feeling, nor is it
   my intention to have a go at any individual. However, if the moderators
   feel it should be deleted then fine, but please don't mail me. I have
   AUTO_DELETE/SENDER=MOD set today.
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115.1Yes.BAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th's trouble at t'millThu Nov 07 1991 16:4610
    What's all the fuss anyway (I didn't see the 'offensive' note). If it
    was to do with a certain elderly, overweight Jewish tycoon popping his
    clogs - what's wrong with that, and it certainly isn't anything to do
    with footie. (Although the sight of R Maxwell Esq wallowing onto the
    pitch at Wembley was enough to put one off one's tea).
    
    Cunno is innocent, a lot of what he writes is twaddle - but it is
    ENTERTAINING twaddle, and can cause mirth...
    
    jb.
115.2BLKPUD::WATTERSONPDances with WilderbeastsThu Nov 07 1991 16:516
>>>    Cunno is innocent, a lot of what he writes is twaddle - but it is
>>>    ENTERTAINING twaddle, and can cause mirth...
    
    totally agree...................
    
    Paul
115.3RTOEU::RDELANEYAperralunis.....Thu Nov 07 1991 17:113
    As long as he doesn't mention TGA !!
    
    	- Robin
115.4CROWN::MURRAYDigital has it. Well sort ofThu Nov 07 1991 17:237
    
    
    Come back CUNNO, but dont make changes just to accommodate your 
    knockers :-)
    
    
    Paul
115.5 8*))) MASALA::JJACKThu Nov 07 1991 17:339
    
    Cunno chose to leave...he wasn't asked !
    Anyway,he's a football fan,so no doubt he will be back soon whether
    anyone petitions on his behalf or not.
    
    Personally,I think he talks a bad lot of crap......but then again,so do
    I !!!!!
   
    
115.6TOTH::CHAVESThu Nov 07 1991 17:3416
    Cunno off line? Tell me it isn't true. I came in this morning and the
    first thing I did was login to the Pool topic anxious to read his
    game report. If anything, lets make conditional:
    
    1) No more mention of TGA until he scores 1 for Ireland
    
    2) If we, those across the pond, make it to England for a spring match,
       Cunno will join us for a few beers and a match. (No one should have
       to take so much punishment)
    
    Besides, where would the Pool history, TGA status, Friday afternoon
    Mancs prediction, etc, etc, come from?
    
    JC
    
    
115.7CLADA::DODONNELLDenisThu Nov 07 1991 18:074
    
I agree 100% with the last note. Cunnos note was no doubt offensive to
some people. But let him take his criticism like a man. By crying
"victimisation" he is inviting sympathy - and getting it. 
115.8I may not be very popular for this, but ...ANNECY::ROWLAND_Aa slip of the tongueThu Nov 07 1991 18:0933
    
    
    I'm sorry to say this, but I do feel that the base note does contain a
    couple of inaccuracies. Most notably, anyone who chastises someone for
    what they are *thinking* would have to be telepathic in the majority of
    cases. You generally only know peoples' opinions by the things that
    they *say*, or have *said* previously.
                                            
    Now, in most "civilised" parts of this world, a man is entitled to
    state his opinion, or whatever, on what he likes. Freedom of thought,
    freedom of speech, and all that. Great. What this issue boils down to
    is that IT ISN'T ALWAYS APPROPRIATE to do that. I'll give you an
    example. The man writing this note once dropped an *enormous* bollock
    at a social gathering by telling a "Terry Waite" joke, albeit
    unwittingly, in front of one of said Mr Waite's very good friends.
    Needless to say this caused a great deal of embarrassment, and upset
    the people concerned. The point is, had I known, I'd never have done
    it. The point HERE is that you never know who might be reading these
    conferences. What may be entered as a piece of idle banter can,
    conceivably, upset an unwitting reader. IF that happens, it clearly
    contravenes Notes rules, and as such, the Mod did his job in this case.
    
    Cunno has not been persecuted into leaving this conference. The title
    of this topic really is, in all honesty, a bit silly - this isn't about
    a crime, for f****' sake. If the man is "guilty" of anything at all,
    then it is nothing more than a slight error of judgement on his part.
    The sooner he wakes up to this fact and starts contributing again the
    better, as far as I'm concerned. It's only been a day and I'm already
    missing the old bullshit... Not to mention the fact that the Scousers
    actually WON for once !!!!
                       
    
    Adam "not_a_moaning_minnie" Rowland.  
115.9YUPPY::MCCABEMikeThu Nov 07 1991 18:276
    I agree with .5, .7 and .8.  In football terms Martin has had a yellow
    card for what in the ref's opinion was a foul.  If every footballer who
    thought he'd been booked unfairly game up the game we'd soon have no
    one playing it.
          
    Mike M   
115.10YUPPY::PANESA nation of shopliftersThu Nov 07 1991 18:347
  I would have thought the eponymous title of this topic and the subject
matter of the conference were mutually exclusive ( oblig. smiley ).

 I rather used to enjoy Martin's drivel, but hes a big boy now and its
up to him.

Stuart De Cuellar
115.11ASKFOR::HAIGHStill hazy after all these beersFri Nov 08 1991 09:4014
    
    	I agree with the last couple, if Cunno wants to dish it out, (which
    he obviously enjoys), he shouldn't be surprised if he get's the
    occasional wrap on the knuckles. 
    
    	Grow up man! Besides
    
    
    	WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE STILL READING!!!
    
    	Now he'll never come back.
    
    
    		Steve
115.12COME BACK CUNNO!!!UNTADI::WILCOCKSONPass the lardFri Nov 08 1991 09:418
    Re .8   arf,arf, thank you Adam for pointing out the sillyness of
    the title of this note. 
    
    Personally I think it would be a sad day indeed if all sillyness in
    this conference was replaced by the kind of drivel the pin-heads
    come out with.
    
    Al.
115.13NEWS FROM CUNNO!!!ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSYElectric Shaughs!Fri Nov 08 1991 11:4321
...........STOP PRESS.......
 
News just in..... I was showing Cunno somthing on the system last evening when
I "accidently" went in to the football notes.  Yes, he has read the note 115 and
its replies and I would say that he is rather chuffed at the whole sordid 
thing. Carring on on matters Cunno, on the announcement of "Deanos" supposed
move to Leeds, Cunno announced that for the Five million quid spent on a 
striker that cannot score goals, and a defender who has not kicked a ball all 
season, Souness SHOULD have bought "Guess who" instead of the pair and put the 
rest of the money towards a Cunno apprication society.....

HE WILL BE BACK, BELIEVE ME, HE WILL BE BACK.......maybe not today, maybe not 
tommorow, but soon, and for the rest of his life. 


Coming soon to a cinema near you,

THE RETURN OF THE CUNNO PART 1

Rgds,
Shaughs.
115.14correctionSIOG::SPENCERPeter SpencerFri Nov 08 1991 12:116
    >	a Cunno apprication society.....
    	        ^^^^^^
    
    Nearly got it right. The first 'p' should be a space, a 'k' missing and 
    the 'ation' is superfluous. ;-)
    
115.15in a similar vein,......YUPPY::PANESYou can't claim VAT on a read receiptFri Nov 08 1991 12:169
          <<< Note 115.13 by ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY "Electric Shaughs!" >>>
                            -< NEWS FROM CUNNO!!! >-

>>THE RETURN OF THE CUNNO PRAT


   Surely a Freudian typo?? ( oblig more smileys than you can shake a stick at)

   Stuart
115.16You can do it! You know you want to!JURA::CAMPBELLReal ponies don&#039;t go oink!Fri Nov 08 1991 12:2512
    Oh come on Cunno!  Come back please, we won't laugh at you. Honest!
    Well, not unless you say something funny...or mention TGA...or
    Liverpool...or the Mancs...or anything at all come to think of it.
    
    I need my daily dose of TGA statistics, and Liverpools trophy winning
    history, and Man UTD's shortcomings (oo-er mrs, sorry, wrong
    conference)
    
    WE WANT CUNNO (repeat ad nauseum)
    
    Stevo
    
115.17So what if he leavesKAOFS::G_LARKINdtn 621-4091Fri Nov 08 1991 13:2715
    What does the guy want ?? An invitation embossed in gold? Admittedly, I
    used to enjoy 'some' of his notes, but to dedicate a note to grovel at
    his feet! 
    
    Maybe he should stop being so sensitive and grow up a little. We all
    get notes hidden every so often for something we've said or implied
    that hurt someone elses feelings. How many of us make such a big deal
    about it?
    
    
    I say leave him where he is!!
    
    Gerry ��
           -
    
115.18SEDSWS::WILLMOTTFri Nov 08 1991 14:409
    
    
    	I don't think his contributions will be missed... 
    	It's the replies, 30.85 being a classic example
    	He is the prefect springboard for comedy. 
    	
    	BTW what did he do ? 
    
    	CHris
115.19English football sucks!!!!GOTA1::APPELQVISTI tunneled Hys�n!!!Fri Nov 08 1991 15:5141
As a non-British noter, i have always enjoyed reading all the bullshit about
how wonderful certain brittish clubs and players are. If my english was a bit
better, i would explain to all of you;

- That Glenn Hys�n is slower than a three-legged donkey

- That John Barnes wouldn't fit in a second-division team in Norway

- That a English international without at least 10 dives inside the penalty
  area is a miracle

- Why half the swedish people falls asleep at about 16.20 every saturday
  during the "Tipsextra"-season (live English 1st-division football)

- How it comes that people from Malm� don't know anything about
  football (they don't know anything about NOTHING)

- That during the next decade, Sweden will win Euro-92, WC-94, Euro-96,
  WC-98 AND Euro-2000

But, since i am a quiet and well-raised person, i stick to adding info such
as how much a parking-spot costs in Gothenburg and what the distance between
Stockholm and Norrk�ping are.

I have always felt that there is a balance in this conference between serious
discussions and crap, and that's why it's so exiting to enter it every morning.
For those of you who have the gift of writing funny, sarcastic and 
    inspirational notes, keep up the good work!!!!!!! But be careful when
    you comes close to the boarder-lines...

Mats

P.S.    I have never met TGC or TGA, but i have met TGB (The Great Brolin).
        Perhaps if we could convert Cunno to true Swedoism, he would enter
        again? D.S.

P.P.S.  How do you know that Liverpool is playing a home game?
	
	There's a bicyckle parked outside Anfield Road. D.S.
    
115.20keep them coming.TOTH::CHAVESFri Nov 08 1991 16:2712
    Mats,
    
    I don't care how many Euros Sweden wins so long as Malmo keeps on
    developing international-quality players and sending them to Benfica.
    
    We'll even let you take � the credit for this year' European
    Champions Cup.
    
    JC
    
    BTW, with the new format and all Benfica will have plenty of money
    to spend next year. Who havve you got for us?
115.21Many goodies to comeGOTA1::APPELQVISTI tunneled Hys�n!!!Fri Nov 08 1991 18:1647
My dream as a little kid was to become a professional footballplayer somewhere
in Europe, especially in Holland (they where the greatest in the mid 70s). I
shared that dream with many of my friends, team-mates and players in other
teams. Some of them did make it, many of us found out that theres much other
pleasures in life than playing football. As a 16 year old kid in a major club
in Stockholm, you had to practice 7 days a week and at the same time try to
keep up with scool. So my carreer went the opposit way, Div1, div3, div5 and
now occasionally div7 reserves. But i'm not unhappy for that. I rather enjoy
playing and practice 2-3 time/week and going out with my friend for a beer on
friday evening.

Swedish football is not professional, and that has always been a disadvantage
for us. I know that a amateurplayer becoming a pro, develops a lot of skills he
wouldn't have if he stayed home, but i truely beleive that if there was a
professional leauge in Sweden, they would become even better. We share that
problem with many countries, and its fortunate for professional countries to
have a goldmine to dig in and get the best pieces. Some of the Swedish clubs
(Malm� and G�teborg) are half professional and kids can go to football-college,
but we can never compete with the major clubs in Europe when it comes to money.
Perhaps in a few years when we joined the Common Market, we can pay our own
players the same amount of money as the rest of Europe and even buy players
from other countries. In the mean time, i think it's a good thing to export
players to Europe, as i said, their performance will improve.

What im am trying to say with my beginning is that if we had professional
football in Sweden when i was young, i would had a bigger chance to earn a 
living doing something i enjoyed most. Now that i'm 15 yars older, i'm lucky
to have an education and a job i can continue to work with to my pension. 

Well, what have to offer to Europe? The Swedish team for the olympics are 
full with talent players, and they have been doing well lately. A win against
Greece away next wednesday and we are practically threw for the next round.
My favourite is a defender, Johan Mj�llby. He is tall and fast and very strong
in the air. Also there is Pascal Simson, a striker with great dribling capacity.
Both plays for AIK, a team from Solna outside Stockholm. They will be in the
ECWC next season. In IFK G�terborg there is H�kan Mild, A strong midfielder with
great potential. And there's also Fredik Gisecke, a junior striker with the same
scoring-capabilicy as Thomas Brolin.

Johnny Ekstr�m came back to Sweden after sitting on various french benches
during the last years, and he has been doing exremely well in IFK G�teborg. I
think he would love a second chance in Europe. Trade him for Magnusson for
example. How is Thern doing, and what have happened to Magnusson? The last i
saw of him was agaist Brazil in the first round in WC90.

Mats
115.22So wha'appen ??MIACT::RANKINEFri Nov 08 1991 19:1322
    Getting back to the Cunno situ..
    
    As a new and occasional noter, I missed the cunno incident, so I can
    only go by the earlier notes here.
    
    I read the situ as ....Cunno enters a dodgy note , the note offends
    someone, the note is hidden, cunno 'leaves' the conference.
    
    Is this how it is ??              If so...
    
    As was mentioned earlier, within reasons, we have the ability of free
    speech..but in notes we have to be sensitive to the rules and regs.
    Cunno has made the decision not to note anymore, he has excercised his
    right...he has the option to return at any time..I hope he does.
    
    If he has been 'banned' then I can think of a few (one in particular)
    noters who should be banned before cunno...see 47 and 48 as examples.
    
    can someone clarify the situ for me.??
    
    Paul
    
115.23Look behind the smoke-screen...TRUCKS::SANTSat Nov 09 1991 09:4428
    
    	re last...
    
    	As one fortunate (?!) to have read Martin's ramblings before they
    	got bombed, the situation is pretty clear to me..
    
    	Martin enters absolutely ridiculous note ;-) suggesting all manner
    	of reasons why Uncle Bob "died mysteriously", and as you would 
    	expect the main one involved TGD.
    
    	Someone pointed out that this "speculation" might offend anyone
    	remotely related to Maxwell (and I guess it would have...) and the
    	note was hidden. Martin probably realises he went a little far and
    	apologises for upsetting anyone - though I doubt anyone *really*
    	was offended, I certainly wasn't 8-) - and quits the football note.
    
    	No one "threw him out"...he chose to blub. He would be welcomed
    	back by some and not missed by others. It's his choice. Why the
    	big fuss? Probably because it's such a surprise that a seemingly
    	thick-skinned blind-red eejit got so upset over something so
    	trivial 8-) I think it's because he knows his beloved Anfield
    	dynasty is coming to an end and all he will have is memories, but
    	I'm sure that's not the reason at all.....
    
    	So what?
    
    	Andy.
    
115.24Please cunno come back (sic)HUGH::RAYNERTSysman&gt;@REO/LOC=G2Mon Nov 11 1991 09:416
    I don't have long to read notes each day.
   
    It would be nice if when I see '30 new notes',  that its about football 
    and not all this crap about cunno.   
    
    Ps. cunno come back and get the football going again.
115.25AgreeOPG::TONYTue Nov 12 1991 17:375
Re .24

	Its getting really boring now, worse that watching Arsenal and Liverpool

Tony
115.26CUNNO IS COMING !!!ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSYElectric Shaughs!Tue Nov 12 1991 19:4517
 >> Its getting really boring now, worse that watching Arsenal and Liverpool

Never fear my son, the Great one has spoken to me through a medium. He has 
assured me that "Cunnovitis" will strike this conference again in the near 
future... The Aldoism sect will be the responsible party for bringing this
deadly vermin back into our lives, with the advent of a strike by TGA to 
save Irelands position in Group 7. If that result does not favour our
mutual friend he will haunt the vaults of this conference in search of an
explaination from our English counterparts as to why they could qualify
for the competition ahead of the team TGA plays for. The 25 goal mark note
still looms also so please beware. The football topic will be added again
to the vax account of one ESSB::MCUNNIFFE regardless of the result in group 7.



Rgds,
Shaughs.
115.27and there was light...RUTILE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don&#039;t go oink!Thu Nov 14 1991 14:266
    PRAISE THE LORD.  For He is risen! He has returned, not as a man, but
    as king of noters.   :-)
    
    See 30.157
    
    Stevo  
115.28zzzzzzzzzzzBLKPUD::WATTERSONPNo Irish in SwedenMon Nov 25 1991 11:3310
    
    Hello world,
    
    did anyone else recieve a mail containing some rantings from 'the noter
    of the year' ?
    
    Is it a deliberate attempt to bore the football noting community or
    have me and mr HAWLEYI been selected for extra 'victimisation' ?
    
    Paul :-)
115.29Not IRTOEU::RDELANEYAperralunis.....Mon Nov 25 1991 11:341
    
115.30On e of the (chosen) fewBAHTAT::BLYTHEEe bah gum th&#039;s trouble at t&#039;millMon Nov 25 1991 11:423
    I got one.
    
    jb.
115.31Hate to admit it having started all thisCURRNT::PAGEDSay NEXT UNSEEN to Scottish FootballMon Nov 25 1991 11:482
    Me too. The reason is still unclear.
    
115.32Re.last...Hate your personal name btw ! PAKORA::JJACKSay NEXT UNSEEN to CURRNT::PAGEDMon Nov 25 1991 13:101
    
115.33Junk MailARRODS::OHAGANBHanging out your old Love LettersMon Nov 25 1991 13:533
    Just what is the lad up to? I recieved an Aldo mail as well.
    
    Barry.
115.34dittoYUPPY::PANESoooh said Jen, oh said NigeMon Nov 25 1991 16:410
115.35Aldo's for kidsYUPPY::PATEMANCPFC - The McLaren of The First DivisionMon Nov 25 1991 16:425
    Has anybody else seen a new kiddies book that's come out called "Aldo"?
    
    Has Cunno moved into publishing?????
    
    The FE Watcher
115.36deja vu? Me too!TRUCKS::SANTMon Nov 25 1991 17:078
    
    	re .28 and some...
    
    	...and I thought I was the only one 8-)
    
    	fascinating huh?
    	
    	Andy.
115.37madness in the family?KERNEL::HAWLEYIdo you mean 1400 patches?Tue Nov 26 1991 13:313
    i dunno about youse, but i got another weird mail message yesterday...
    Ian.
    
115.38You mean like this one ?CURRNT::PAGEDEvent Driven Dev Grp @NEWTue Nov 26 1991 13:3816
115.39note set hiddenGALVIA::SPAINThere&#039;s always the U.S.Tue Nov 26 1991 14:0413
    
    The previous note has been set hidden but Dave would like it to be
    known that he doesn't want anymore of the following type messages.
    
    >
    >To the juvenile delinquent who just sent me the following message, can 
    >we stop
    >poluting the net with this sort of BS ? Thanks. Dave.
    
    > From:   HAMPS::64648::CUNNOS_DAD
    
    
    Gary.
115.40just when you thought it was safe!KERNEL::HAWLEYII&#039;ve got a piccy of Cunno, tooWed Dec 11 1991 15:357
    Many of you will be receiving the famed 'Cunno picture' soon...
    I have learned that 10 noters have been picked out to receive a copy
    of the photo of THE two most lethal strikers in the game...
    Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
    IT COULD BE YOU!!!
    Ian.
    
115.41sadKERNEL::HAWLEYII&#039;ve got a piccy of Cunno, tooWed Dec 11 1991 15:368
    > Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
    
    thats recipients, not lethal strikers...
    although....
    
    Ian.
    :-)
    
115.42Northern chic????YUPPY::PANESIts the Filth, Ma&#039;amWed Dec 11 1991 15:4514
     <<< Note 115.41 by KERNEL::HAWLEYI "I've got a piccy of Cunno, too" >>>
                                    -< sad >-

>    > Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^

  I've been know to bang a few in, but unfortunately I haven't got a 
  a "joey" moustache.

  T.G.P   


     

115.43StevoRUTILE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don&#039;t go oink!Wed Dec 11 1991 17:082
    Memememe,  I want one, please Sir!
    
115.44erm...KERNEL::HAWLEYII&#039;ve got a piccy of Cunno, tooWed Dec 11 1991 17:107
    re.last
    
    a photo of cunno or a John Aldridge moustache?!?!
    
    Ian.
    :^)
    
115.45Touched by the photo of Cunno.ARRODS::OHAGANBAre you with me Doctor Wu?Wed Dec 11 1991 18:046
    Just this minute recieved my photo. Cunno seems to be going for the
    Paul McCartney fringe by the looks of it. As for TGA's moustache, well,
    there's always a career for him in the army when he hangs up his 
    footy boots.
    
    Barry.
115.46Cunno's pic arrives...TRUCKS::SANTThu Dec 12 1991 09:154
    
    	I got mine....but who's that bloke standing next to him? 8-)
    
    	Andy.
115.47Now availableBLKPUD::WATTERSONPI&#039;ve got a piccy of CunnoFri Dec 13 1991 00:2011
    
    An extract from this 'masterpiece' is now available in DDIF format (so
    you can see what the mighty Cunno really looks like........)
    
    COPY COMICS::CANDA.TXT <wherever>
    
    Paul
    
    PS  - I did not waste valuable time scanning and cropping this
    picture !
                                            
115.48RUTILE::CAMPBELLReal ponies don&#039;t go oink!Fri Dec 13 1991 09:346
    Just gorrit!  Do you know what?   Cunno looks just like I thought he
    would!
    
    Hahahaha.
    
    Stevo :-)
115.49Won't Get Fooled AgainARRODS::OHAGANBAre you with me Doctor Wu?Fri Dec 13 1991 12:483
    You're right Stuart, it does look like a fake. 
    
    Barry.
115.50must be realKERNEL::HAWLEYIPaul Wattersons love-childFri Dec 13 1991 13:365
    
    well, Paul didnt fake the scanning, and i doubt that Martin would have
    had the gumption to fake the photo...
    Ian.