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    DECWrite !!!!
    
    jb.

    Fortune's Always Hiding  -  West Ham.
    The Lion Roars  -  Millwall
    The Arsenal Echo Echo  -  guess?
    
    To name but a few, but the laughs come thick and fast with this lot. 
    Alternately you need'nt search further than our very own notes-files 
    for things humourous as our man Cunno provides humour on a regular
    basis. In fact, I think it would be good idea to publish a DEC only
    fanzine on Martin's best/worst efforts. Can anyone think of a suitable 
    fanzine-ish title for the proposed journal? 
    
    

    >>Im particularly interested in football fanzines, especially the humour
    >>!!.  When Saturday Comes lists all the regularly available fanzines by
    >>club, and the temptation is to send away for a lot of them. Are there
    >>any fanzines which you read on a regular basis, that you would
    >>recommend ??.
    
    There are a few compilation books around, such as "El Tel Is A Space
    Alien", which have selections from about twenty or so different
    fanzines, one of these maybe a good starting point.  Individually 
    fanzines now break down into two groups; the "upmarket" professionally
    produced and the original, poorly produced, "Corona typewriter"
    varieties.  The latter tend, in my opinion, to be funnier.  Of the
    "upmarket ones The Spur (Tottenham) and 1-0 Down 2-1 Up (Arsenal)
    are good examples.  Of the others, When Sunday Comes (Liverpool), King
    of the Kippax (Man City) and The Arsenal Echo Echo are fairly good
    examples.  
    
    >>Also Im considering creating my own fanzine , anyone have any
    >>experience/advice on this ??.
    
    Don't underestimate the amount of time it takes.
    You need a lot of material.
    Use a good quality WP/DTP package such as DECwrite or Ami Professional.
    If cost is an issue don't have it typeset.  It helps a lot if you know
    a printer.
    To produce a 16 page, A5, black and white glossy will cost between 500
    and 700 pounds to print.  Cost dependent upon paper quality, number of
    pictures and the like.
    
    Mike M 

    500 to 700 pounds to print a 1000.

    Thanks for the quick responses so far.
    
    My thought was to create (probably) a one-off version of a 'fanzine'
    with the subject matter  of referees and linesmen.  I have accrued a
    few funny stories about referees, and Im sure that thousands of you
    have witnessed a few comedians wearing the black. As most Football
    League refs are members of local Referees associations, who regularly
    liase with each other, a circular letter to all RA's should provide a
    fair amount of referee biased stories. Further pleas for funny stories
    in mediums such as this, and WSC, should (Im am optimist) provide me
    with eenuff material for an issue.  Depending on the sucess, or not, of
    this, as wel as the amount of interest/material generated, or not, then
    there may be a follow up.
    
    Any comments, funny stories and cartoons etc appreciated.
    
    Paul 

    Silly question... When I got home yesterday and put the TV on there
    was a footie-fanzine-type programme on BBC2(?)
    
    Anyone know what its called, or how long its been running for ?
    I thought it was quite entertaining, especially the bits about
    Gazza and 5-bellies !!

	"Standing Room Only", see note 101.*


	The Fridge

    Glasgow Celtic have three fanzines that I know of....
    
    "Not the View" (Tongue in cheek title as the clubs official newsapaper
                     is called "The View")
    
    "Once a Tim " (The best in my opinion,as it slags the Huns the most,and
                   has some excellant comic strips in it too)
    
    I cannot remember the name of the 3rd one,as I saw it for the 1st time
    last night(although the caption on the back was hilarious).
    It showed a picture of Charlie Nicholas turning away after obviously
    scoring as goal,only for the caption to read......
    
    "He's given it....It's a penalty...IT'S A PENALTY !!!!!
    
    A direct dig at the fact that celtic went a full season without being
    awarded a penalty kick in over 40 matches !
    
    

    Well the magazine I read isn't exactly a fanzine but I'll put it in
    here anyway....
    
    	The magazine is called "Winger" and basically is a monthly review
    of British League Football....
    
    	It has review of the previous months football action in both
    England/Scotland & Wales... plus articles on managers, teams & grounds.
    
    	For instance, in this months issue contains 32 pages with articles 
    on whether Trevor Francis is a good manager, The A to Z of Terry Venables, 
    Profiles of Reading, Stockport & Bath City... plus Ground of the Month
    - which happens to be Stoke... telling you how to get there... pubs to
    visit etc... It also has lots of interesting trivia.. which this month
    is about which teams have won the most trophies.. which happens to be
    Liverpool with 33.. their first being in 1901 & their last in 1992....
    etc...
    
    	Subscription to the magazine costs 15 sterling pounds per year 
    ( for 12 issues ) including postage within the UK.
    	
    	If your interested in subscribing then you can write to 
    
    			WINGER 
    			200, Bradford Road,
    			Otley,
    			West Yorkshire,
    			LS21 3LT,
    			England.
    
    			Tel or Fax. (0943) 467967
    
    	If your based in Decpark & you want to have a quick look then mail
    me. I don't make any money out of this... is put together with some
    people I used to work with at my old company.
    
    	Rick

    >	For instance, in this months issue contains 32 pages with articles 
    >on whether Trevor Francis is a good manager, The A to Z of Terry Venables, 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Rick,
    
    And what was the conclusion ?? Is the mag avaiilable in newsagents or
    only on subscription.
    
    Paul.
    

    Well its available at the following shops in the UK.. most of them are
    in the north though.. :->
    
    Good Vibrations - Belfast....
    Edinbrugh - Archway Promotions
    Glasgow - Strathclyde Programme Shop
    Hull - Sydney Scarborough
    Leeds - Jumbo Records
    London - Sportspages
    Manchester - Sportspages/Waterstones
    Nottingham - Selectadisc/Sport-in-Print
    Wallsend - Sound of Music
    
    
    As for the conclusion.. send me your address & I'll mail you a copy of
    those pages.. :->
    
    Rick.

    Just a minute, 
    
    ...Profiles on Reading...Which pubs to visit...Liverpool have won lots of
    trophys...
    
    Where have I seen this before ?
    
    Could next months edition possibly contain articles entitled - 
    
    "MANU are bloody Marvellous" and "oh no they're not"
    
    I don't mind them selling the stuff but how much are you making Mr
    Morrell and where's my royalties ? :-)
    
    Cheers,
        
    Andy

    Rick photo-copy them, drop them off at my home, and I'll put them on
    Paul's desk.
    
    AndyH
    

    Ok Andy.. :->
    
    Rick.

    I wish I did make a profit from it.. I'd have enough to retire by now..
    ;->
    
    Rick.

    >As for the conclusion.. send me your address & I'll mail you a copy of
    >those pages.. :->
    
    Rick,
    
    I'm at the same address as your good friend, and his (smiley thing), Andy 
    Haig. The FAX number is 0895 253111 and my name is Paul Lem. Thanks in
    advance. I'll try to find out where the London shop is to get a copy
    myself. I may be up in Bradford later this year, sampling several pints
    of Tetleys, Sam Smiths and Tim Taylors plus several curries, so I could
    get a copy (or even subscribe) then.
    
    Cheers again,
    
    Paul.
    

    
    So Paul,
    
    if yer up in bradford, you'll be going down the Kash no doubt?
    
    Have a Meat Bhunna for me will ya (I'll send you the 2 quid).
    
    Al

    The Kash... brilliant resturant! :->
    
    I'll drop it round Andys tonight... :->
    
    
    Rick.

    
    Re. The Kash.
    
    Yup, I was in there at Easter, it's definately moved up market though.
    I remember ordering a Vegetable Special in there about 3 years ago,
    and I asked "Whats special about it?", they said "its 30p cheaper".
    
    My kind of place :^)
    
    Al.
    
    PS. If you go in the Manville (just opposite Bradford College), ask for
    a pint of Manville Bitter - it's the equivalent of the Kash Vegetable 
    Special. (It's Tetleys, only 5p cheaper a pint!).

    re the Kash
    
    Where else? During my 4 years at college in Bradford I wouldn't go
    anywhere else. Not so sure about the recent innovations though, menu's
    are all very well but should be kept in their place (ie restaurents).
    They'll be having tablecloths next. Meat and mushroom/veg Madras is my
    usual. My mouth is watering at the thought of it: must get round to
    getting a trip organised. Good to see other devotees in here.
    
    Paul.
     

    
>>           <<< Note 105.21 by UPROAR::LEMP "Live slow, die young" >>>
>>                       -< Best curry house in England. >-
    
    Seconded - from another 4-years-in-Bradford man. (78-83)
    
    Rob
    
    P.S. Paul - Sportspages is at Cambidge Circus, just down from TCR tube,
    and about 5 mins from Enterprise House. They stock most fanzines from
    around the Country as well as numerous other sporting publications.

    Thirded - from another 4-years-in-Bradford man. (79-83)
    
    Dave

    Thanks for the directions Rob. I'll try to get down to have a look this
    w/e.
    
    I was also at Bradford from 79 to 83. I was the lanky one with the
    shoulder length, bedraggled, greasy hair, the pretend beard, the spots
    and the off-cream palour. Bring back any memories?
    
    Paul.
    

    Re:-1
    
    From my memories of Bradford, everybody looked like that - even the
    women !

  Very funny cover featuring L'homme Manc on this month's When
  Saturday Comes. 

  Stuart

	re Bradford

	So what happened to the Karachi? Used to be the best place by far
	when I worked at Bradford Uni. Longer ago than I like to think about.

	Are they still busting the Taj(?) for dirty kitchens on a regular basis?

	Tony

    re -1
    
    Karachi? Rings a bell. Where is/was it?
    
    re The Winger
    
    Thanks Rick. Andy brought it in this morning. I'll have a read at
    lunchtime. The article about Francis was good. At the moment I feel the
    same way about him. He's done well but how much of this was down to
    him? He's still got to prove himself to me. Trying to save Hirst for
    the FA cup final when he should have been getting him match fit was a
    big mistake - he looked totally out of it.
    
    Paul.
    

    Boys,
    
    It seems the rest of Digital needs educating in Bradford Curries viz.
    Note 124 in SHAWB1::CURRIES. (Hit <KP7> to add the conference)
    
    Rob

	re .28

>    Karachi? Rings a bell. Where is/was it?

	Neal Street, if my memory serves me. In a couple of converted terrace
	houses.

	Tony