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| 95.1 | | TOTH::CHAVES | | Tue Sep 24 1991 16:42 | 9 |
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In Portugal 3 weeks ago we had 60,000 at Porto, 45,000 at Benfica
and 13,000 at Braga (playing against Sporting). Every other game
had crowds of 3 to 8 thousand. Take away Benfica Porto and Sporting
and its hard to imagine how other teams can afford to meet expenses.
Second division game attendance was even worst.
JC
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| 95.2 | Elland Road | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:01 | 10 |
| Leeds United limit at Elland Road is 32,917
Gate at Liverpool game on Saturday 32,917
Average so far this season is 30,500
There should be a new stand built during Summer 1992, to be finished in
time for the 1993-1994 season, Elland Rd capacity will then be 40,000,
all seater.
jb.
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| 95.3 | Some Scots Stadiums | KIRKTN::CDOUDIE | B.U'S FURRA CUP.. | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:02 | 19 |
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Re .-1
You could say the same about Scotland, take away the Celtic and
Rangers home gates and the crowds can average pretty low.e.g.These
games against each other are usually sell outs i.e.44,000 at Ibrox
last season and around the 55 to 60,000 mark at Celtic Park.
But ground size/limit in Scotland is pretty low.
St Johnstone - 10,000 capacity
Hearts - 23,000 " "
Falkirk - 10,000 " "
That's all I can remember off hand although Ibrox is being upgraded
to the 55,000 mark this season I think.
p.s. Bo'ness United - 3,000 capacity
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| 95.4 | Nobody watches League Football in Sweden | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:23 | 12 |
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Average gates in the Swedish league is 3-4,000. Athmosphere is
non-existant. No club attracts significantly more than the others. A
capacity crowd has not been seen for the past 10 years, at least.
Do they deserve better attention? I don't know, I have not been at a
league game since I was a little kid (about Cunno's age, I'd say)
I don't think we'd score well even if the Standard Crowd Size Factor
was considered.
Stefan
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| 95.5 | Some info | SCOAYR::BCOUGHTRIE | | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:46 | 11 |
| Rangers average home game has been about 33,000 this season so far,
this is in a current stadium capacity of 36,000, due to construction of
the new 3-tier stand.
The new complete stadium will house 52,000 all-seated.
I'll try and get some accurate info on all other clubs home gates,
normally boosted by the old firm playing.
Brian.
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| 95.6 | AVERAGE ATTENDANCE IN SPAIN = HIGH | MDRLEG::AREVALILLO | Nosce te ipsum | Tue Sep 24 1991 18:26 | 14 |
| In Spain the attendance is high. Some instances of average attendance:
TOTAL AVERAGE
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Nou Camp (FC Barcelona) 125,000 100,000
Santiago Bernab�u (Real Madrid) 100,000 80,000
Vicente Calder�n (Atl�tico) 80,000 50,000
(all seater)
The other stadia show a similar average according to their sizes.
JUANJO
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| 95.7 | 13,000 | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Chris the Jester | Tue Sep 24 1991 23:06 | 23 |
| Not so good in France, where the 10,000 mark is considered good.
Examples below for the current season:
Team Capacity Average
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Paris SG 47,000 28,000
Marseille 49,000 33,000
Metz 30,000 16,000
Lens 40,000 23,000
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Monaco 25,000 7,000
Cannes 18,000 8,000
Average this season is 13,000 so far. It usually goes down during the
winter.
The above figures are guesses supported by regular reading of France
Football. They should not be too much off the mark.
�JF?
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| 95.8 | Scrap The Competition | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Wed Sep 25 1991 10:44 | 12 |
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Approximately 55,000 fans watched the 9 First Division clubs in action
last night in the Rumbelows (League) Cup - that's an appalling average
of only just over 6,000.
Wimbledon again took the biscuit as just 2,081 turned up at Selhurst
Park to see them lose 2-1 to Peterborough.
Rob
Mind you, even the Mega-Huge club from Merseyside only managed a paltry
8,000 odd - Excuses please Watto ?
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| 95.9 | | RTOIC::GGAUGLER | | Wed Sep 25 1991 11:10 | 24 |
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TSV 1860 have an average crowd of 25,000+ this season. In four home
matches so far about 105,000 turned up. (Second Bundesliga)
Ground capacity was about 32,000/35,000 but because of security reasons
only 28,000 are allowed to get in. I've been to a match one and a half
year ago, when 35,000 still were allowed and in fact attended the
match (third Division). It was so packed and it was not comfortable to
stand because we didn't have much place to stand.
I don't know the exact attendances of Bundesliga sides but I remember
last year something like:
Borussia Dortmund: 37,000 (44,000)
Bayern: 34,000 (70,000)
If interested I can look it up how it was exactly.
I also know that it is/was hard to attend a St. Pauli home match since
ground capacity is only 20,000 and nearly all matches were sold out.
Average attendance of normal second Bundesliga sides is about
6,000.
G�nter
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| 95.10 | Bundesliga crowds | RTOIC::GGAUGLER | | Mon Sep 30 1991 14:37 | 17 |
| Just read the average crowds of some Bundesliga sides this season.
N�rnberg 34,750
Kaiserslautern 31,242
Schalke 49,217
Frankfurt 30,333
HSV 27,867
K�ln 24,666
D�sseldorf 16,583
Dresden 19,366
Bochum 20,750
Suttgart (Kickers)10,840
These are all sides that had home matches last weekend. I hope I'll find out
for the rest aswell.
G�nter
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| 95.11 | Far from capacity | PAKORA::GMITCHELL | The King of wishful thinking | Mon Oct 14 1991 22:27 | 4 |
| Average West Calder Juniors crowd this season is 32 men and two dugs.
Wouldn't be too bad if that wasn't counting subs and officials.
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| 95.12 | Super-Leaguers Motivation | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Mon Oct 28 1991 16:06 | 30 |
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With a quarter of the Football League season now gone, the following
table is the average gates of all Division 1 clubs :
Manchester Utd 45,023
Liverpool 36,571
Arsenal 32,782
Tottenham Hotspur 32,473
Sheffield Wednesday 30,504
Manchester City 29,746
Leeds United 29,653
Aston Villa 26,810
Everton 26,469
Nottingham Forest 22,842
West Ham United 22,720
Chelsea 20,825
Sheffield United 19,318
Crystal Palace 18,993
Southampton 15,959
Norwich City 15,062
Oldham Athletic 13,928
Notts County 13,334
Coventry City 13,092
Queens Park Rangers 12,723
Luton Town 9,068
Wimbledon 7,203
Rob
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| 95.13 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Still hazy after all these beers | Wed Oct 30 1991 10:20 | 2 |
| City down in 6th!!!!! Interesting figures, though I suspect some are
hampered by capaities.
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| 95.14 | Average = Capacity / 2 :-( | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Wed Oct 30 1991 12:07 | 11 |
| >> <<< Note 95.13 by ASKFOR::HAIGH "Still hazy after all these beers" >>>
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>> City down in 6th!!!!! Interesting figures, though I suspect some are
>> hampered by capa(c)ities.
>>
So that's why County's average is so low :-)
Rob
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| 95.15 | | UNTADI::WILCOCKSON | Pass the lard | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:40 | 3 |
| At least County get into double figures. Lutons 9.068 average
attendance is only two average sized families.
Does anybody know their names?
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| 95.16 | pretty full | SHIRE::STIEBER | | Thu Jan 16 1992 16:37 | 17 |
| funny......
I was in the Luton record crowd (30,069, since you ask) v. Blackpool in
a 6th-round cup replay in 1959....those were the days....
I was also at the Luton v. Chelsea game just before New Year (me and
Mr.Major), at which the crowd was announced as just over 10,000,
all-ticket.
With my poor eyesight, I reckoned the place was just as full this time
as it was back in '59, albeit a mite more comfortable. Even if they
beat Liverpool every week nowadays, they couldn't cram many more in.
This being so, I reckon an average gate of 9,068 is 90% of capacity,
and not to be sneezed at.
Aatchoooo.
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| 95.17 | Graham Taylor for comic of the year. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Thu Feb 06 1992 19:24 | 7 |
| re -1.
Here Here I agree. whats the point of having 20000+ seats when only
9000 bums want to sit on em.
Barry.
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| 95.18 | Live tv midweek v's Saturday games. | PAKORA::CDOUDIE | Free Scotland... | Fri Apr 17 1992 06:04 | 26 |
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re -1
That's 18,000 cheeks....8*)
Hearts v Airdrie
Scottish cup final replay. crowd 11,000.
OK....it was on SKY tv and the weather was bad, but surely Hearts can
muster 11,000 fans by themselves. Haven't a clue about Airdrie's
support or population. This is not a dig at Hearts or Airdrie, but are
live tv games, midweek, going to kill crowds at games.
Does anyone else have any figures as to live games on tv as opposed to
games not on tv. Remember to take weather into consideration because
some fans won't go if it's raining or cold anyway.
Midweek.
H v A SFAcup semifinal replay 11,000. weather : terrible. Live : yes.
If someone could enter league crowds for this tie then we will see if
there's any difference. Sorry, but don't know the crowd for the first
game, it was the usual saturday game though.
Colin.
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| 95.19 | | PAKORA::GMCDONALD | LIGHT | Tue May 26 1992 00:33 | 6 |
| re last,
Crowd for Hearts vrs Airdrie on the Saturday was 22,000 +
SQF Jambo
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| 95.20 | Na mar Hearts | KURMA::CREILLY | I LIKE THEM BIG | Sat May 30 1992 03:56 | 6 |
| Celtic Park 55-60,000 most weeks...
Only lower when Hearts arrive due to inferior football from the
Jambos.....
Chazs the main man
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| 95.21 | | PAKORA::GMCKEE | | Sat May 30 1992 10:54 | 20 |
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Re -1 "Celtic Park 55-60,000 most weeks..."
I take it you only noticed the crowd size for two games Charlie...????
Celtics average gate was 21-22,000 it would have been far less if they
didn't have 2 55,000 complete sell out games against Rangers.
Rangers ( IBROX capacity 43,000 ) had an average of 36-37,000.
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| 95.22 | More room now,since McStay has McGONE. | PAKORA::ISUTHERLAND | Celtic's Trophy Cabinet For Sale | Sat May 30 1992 13:52 | 4 |
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Naw Gordon i think you got it wrong.
It must be another of those 25th anniversary things.;>)
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| 95.23 | Who cares. | MASALA::NPATERSON | Jambo in europe | Mon Jun 01 1992 09:28 | 17 |
| RE.20
Q.1 Who finished second in the league. A.1 Jambo's.
Q.2 Who can beat the Hibees. A.2 Jambo's.
Q.3 Who can beat Celtic home and away. A.3 Jambo's.
Q.4 Who can get into europe without using the back door. A.4 Jambo's.
Q.5 Wno cares about attendances. A.5 Not a Jambo.
Another SQF Jambo.
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| 95.24 | Thought this might be of interest... | MILE::JENKINS | | Wed Feb 26 1997 14:00 | 32 |
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This was sent me - I think it was originally in World Soccer....
Tot. Ave.
1 Real Madrid 669000 83625
2 Barcelona 740000 82222
3 Bayern M=FCnchen 491000 61375
4 Milan 389941 55706
5 Manchester U 494861 54985
6 Roma 439148 54894
7 Borussia Dortmund 359400 51343
8 Internazionale 349633 49948
9 Celtic 390497 48812
10 Ajax 431976 47997
11 Rangers 423123 47014
12 Napoli 316768 45253
13 Stuttgart 361000 45125
14 Sevilla 400458 44495
15 Real Betis 341000 42625
16 Valencia 332000 41500
17 Lazio 243047 40508
18 Juventus 280994 40142
19 Liverpool 353436 39271
20 Arsenal 338166 37574
21 Everton 333400 37044
22 Athletic Bilbao 333000 37000
23 Koln 294000 36750
24 Newcastle U 291934 36492
25 Fiorentina 254453 36350
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