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SUBURB::WAITEG "GARY WAITE"                          14 lines   7-FEB-1992 17:08
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    Tomorrow sees the Saints in action against the mighty Forest at the
    Dell.  The three points are vital because teams above us all seem to be
    winning.  We need the cup form.
    
    The Bolton game has now been switched to Sunday and is all ticket.  Try
    and get your ticket tomorrow if you've got the cash.
    
    The fans must get behind the team, not slag them off every minute. 
    Results ain't going our way but the teams doing their best.
    
    
    Cheers 
    Gaz
    

>The Bolton game has now been switched to Sunday and is all ticket.  Try
>and get your ticket tomorrow if you've got the cash.

Let me tell you a story.....Thats not because they're expecting a lot of you..
Its all ticket for the Bolton lads...So you'd better book a taxi..or is it
a tractor...!!!

As the famous Sothampton chant goes....We dont need this S**T..!!!!

    Are you jealous mate?
    
    
    

Just envious...!!

Mate...

    Will you ever win the league mate?  I don't think so.  Come on Leeds. 
    How does that song go 
    
    MAN UTD                                 
    MAN UTD
    WILL YOU EVER WIN THE LEAGUE?
    WILL YOU EVER WIN THE LEAGUE?            
    
    
    I'm not even a Saints supporter but I can tell your a typical United
    supporter thats never seen em before!  Am I right.  Proberly
    
              

>Will you ever win the league mate?  I don't think so.  Come on Leeds. 
>   How does that song go 
>    
>    MAN UTD                                 
>    MAN UTD
>    WILL YOU EVER WIN THE LEAGUE?
>    WILL YOU EVER WIN THE LEAGUE?            
>    
>    
>    I'm not even a Saints supporter but I can tell your a typical United
>    supporter thats never seen em before!  Am I right.  Proberly
    
 Now theres no need for this is there..!!

May I congratulate you on the fact that you dont support Southampton I wouldnt
wish that on anybody. You are obviously embarrased to tell us who you support !!

You are so right...I've never seen them...Even before...Proberly...         

	O.K. so now we have a Southampton base note.

	Will someone please put in some information about the current team?

	Still_ill_informed of Spitbrook

Gary,

I'll skip the drink, but if you are by any chance in the K-Stand pop into
Stair 16 Row 29 Seat 63 and say 'ello...

Tony

ps. If you are an Eagle come in disguise, K standers dont take kindly to feathers



Enjoy the game and the atmosphere..!!
 

	I think the current league table shows Southampton at 13th
	with 38 goals for.

	I can remember a season when they finished 19th in the First
	Division with 90+ goals for.

	Is football as entertaining as it used to be?

	Tony

    
    > Is football as entertaining as it used to be?
    
    Probably not, but Southampton's situation is more to do with a change
    of manager and an entirely different approach to the game. During their
    good run, Soton won a lot of games 1 - 0 which is typical for a
    Branfoot team; during his reign at Reading, the third division title
    was secured on the back of numerous 1 - 0 victories.
    
    Solid defence, soak up the pressure, score on the odd breakaway - the
    Branfoot method.
    
    jeff
    

	Would the Southampton supporter out there like to comment
	on the team/prospects for the forthcoming season?

	Expatriate of Spitbrook

    Prospects are not looking too good, Alan Shearer has left to join
    Blackburn Rovers for a massive salary, the fee is rumoured to be
    approx 3.5 million. Neil Ruddock has joined Spurs for 750,00 pounds and
    Barry Horne has joined Everton for 650,000 pounds. Saints have signed David 
    Speedie from Blackburn and Kerry Dixon from Chelsea, it looks as though
    Branfoot is planning for the future there as both are over thirty. We
    definately need a constructive midfielder to go alongside the
    destructive talents of Terry Hurlock and probably need a fullback and a
    central defender, unfortunately now that clubs know we have three
    million to spend we are going to be quoted silly prices for average
    players.
    
    			Not looking forward to the new season,
    
    			The Southampton Supporter,
    
    			Stuart.  

    
    	Scummers (sorry, Southampton 8-)) will go the same way Reading
    	did after Ian Clubfoot's tranfer dabblings...
    
    
    	Downhill. 
    
    	Saints are now red-hot certainties for relegation this year.
    
    	Andy.

    COULD YOU TELL ME WHO SOUTHHAMPTON IS PLAYING AT THE END SETEMBER.
    
    
    CHEERS
    
    ME
     

    SEPTEMBER

12th	QPR		H
19th	Leeds Utd	H
26th	C Palace 	A

Al

	I'm sort of resigned to the fact that nobody ever puts a match
	report here...
	...but how come that when the Saints play teams for whom we have
	normally active notes, like Forest or Arsenal, these notes go
	mysteriously quiet?

	Tony

    
    	A: Because Saints won....
    
    	Andy.

    >>	...but how come that when the Saints play teams for whom we have
    >>	normally active notes, like Forest or Arsenal, these notes go
    >>	mysteriously quiet?

    >>	Tony
    
    Tony, maybe you'd like to read 46.80.  
    
    I didn't go on Saturday (Still doshless, after all these years - does
    anyone have a balaclava and shotgun I can borrow? :-)), but from what
    was said on the radio and reported in the papers it wasn't a great game. 
    Southampton took the lead after about 15 minutes.  Arsenal apparently 
    didn't do much until the 37th minute when Campbell hit the post. 
    Wright should have put the rebound away, but he hit it high, wide and not
    very handsome.  1-0 to the Saints at half-time.  
    
    About ten minutes into the second-half Southampton increased their
    lead, Dowie at the far post I think.  Arsenal had a couple of chances
    to get back into it, in particular a Merson lob which was well saved by
    Flowers.  At this stage I believe Wright and Monkou were 'having a few
    words' (and then some!).  I think Wright got booked, again.
    
    With five minutes to go Parlour was pulled down in the penalty area. 
    Wright hit the resulting penalty against the bar.  I think Arsenal had
    the opportunities to get something from the game but probably deserved
    what they got, nothing.
    
    Mike M   
          

    At the risk of being proved clinically insane, I am going to the Dell
    on saturday to see the FEs put right the injustice on Soton's 2-1 win
    at Selhurst, can any Saint out there give directions from the M3/M27 to
    the ground please?
    
    ta
    
    paul

    
    	Easy, Paul...
    
    	Down the M3 to Winchester. Straight through the Hockley Lights 
    	(snigger....sorry, but if you drive through 'em every day you'll
    	know what I mean..), carry on down the A33, go past the Eastleigh
    	turn-off (it's three lanes here), avoid following the M27 westbound
    	towards Bournemouth (get in the middle lane), take left A33
    	Southampton (carry on at your peril onto the M27 Eastbound)
    
    	Follow the A33 in towards Southampton. Go past the University -
    	this road is known as "the avenue". When you see signs for the
    	Eye Hospital to turn right and follow them. The ground is about 
    	� mile away (can't miss it!!), park wherever you can.
    
        All that from not a Saints fan...
    
    	Good luck (the ground is a DUMP!)
    
    	Andy.

    Thanks Andy, how can it be a dump when such a talented team plays
    there............ :-) We were surprised to see that the stand is
    non-smoking tho'.
    
    Paul

    
    Beware if you do turn right off the Avenue - there's one grotty little
    car park that seems to fill up by about 1:30 and no other roadside
    parking. I always used to turn left off the Avenue (you'll see the turn
    off that Andy's talking about, there's a pub and park on the right)
    into one of the side streets - there's a few pubs round there and it's
    a lot easier to get back onto the Avenue after the game. It's about a
    10-15 minute walk to the ground, but there's no pubs near the ground
    that you can get into before the game.
                                          
    Paul

    
    	Ahhhhh!! Now if it's a pub guide you're looking for around
    	Southampton, I may be able to help you there too 8-)
    
    
    	...but let's make a proper evening of it!!
    
    	Andy.

    >>parking. I always used to turn left off the Avenue (you'll see the turn
    >>off that Andy's talking about, there's a pub and park on the right)
                                               ^^^
    
    This pub, which you can't miss but the name escapes me, has a
    reasonable-sized car park.  A couple of mates and I always park in it,
    have a few jars in the pub, then walk down to the ground.  It's then
    easy to turn left out of the car park onto the main road and head off
    for the M3.  
    
    Mike M  

    
    Mike,
    
    I always found that pub closed to away supporters - maybe you Arsenal
    peeps are better behaved than us Evertonians......
    
    Paul

    Hello,
    
    Is there anybody out there who could tell me the fixtures for the
    saints in the next 2 weeks.
    
    Me

  A couple of really great goals by Le Tissier at the weekend. 

  Stuart

    re-1...
    
    should this note not be in the Nottingham Forest topic ??? 'No 40'
    
     SQF Jambo

	Southampton sell Tim Flowers
	then
	concede no goals for the first time this season.

	Are these two events connected?

	Tony

    >	Southampton sell Tim Flowers
    >	then
    >	concede no goals for the first time this season.
    >
    >	Are these two events connected?
    
    No, the connection was that they were playing Spurs for the first time
    this season ;-)
    
    Terry

    
    Ian Branfort has been sacked....
    
    Neil...

    Bobby Robson and Lawrie MacMenemie tipped to take over by R5 this
    morning.
    
    Paul.
    

    
    This mornings rumour was that the new manager would be
    
    Wait for it
    
    Graham Taylor.

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    god help you now.
    
    
    Rich.

    Graham Taylor has always been a succesful manager at club level.  I
    don't think it would be too bad.
    
    
    
    /GAry

Branfoot sacked ? I have never liked the Saints but have been feeling 
increasingly sympathetic towards them for the last year or so. No-one 
deserves him, but saying that he went from Reading to Palace to 
Southampton....who's next - Liverpool ?

He'll probably play John Barnes at left back.

Andy.

>He'll probably play John Barnes at left back.
    
    Why not? Bobby Robson did.
    
    Dave.

    re .37
    
    >Bobby Robson and Lawrie MacMenemie tipped to take over by R5 this
    
    Sorry, that should have read Graham Taylor and Lawrie Mac. Can't think
    how I managed to confuse the two (Because they're both crap ex-England
    managers. Ed.)
    
    Paul.
    

I think Branfoot resigned didn't he?

Graham Taylor was an excellent club manager. He holds the record for most points
in a season (with Lincoln City). 

Mike

Mike,

Do you know what the record points for that season was just out of interest ?

Nige.

Nige,

I can find out tonight probably if you want. My house mate is a sad Lincoln City
fan, and the only reason I know they hold the record is because he points it out
to me every time Donny Rovers earn a point. 8-) (Not very often, admittedly)

Mike

    
    Alan Ball confirmed as new manager of Soton...
    
    Dave...

	... and Lawrie McMenemey as General Manager

	Tony

    
    We are currently planning are yearly weekend trip to the coast and are
    planning to come to the Blackburn v Southampton game on 16 April
    (providing SKY  don't switch it).
    
    We will be travelling from Blackburn on Friday afternoon (12 of us at
    present), and are planning to stop in Bounemouth on Friday and Saturday
    nights. 
    
    We will then catch the train to Southampton on Saturday for some
    serious drinking and then go to the match.
    
    As most of us are season ticket holders at Ewood, obtaining match
    tickets shouldn't be to much trouble but we have a couple of questions 
    that need answering;
    
    1)	How many tickets do visitors get at the DELL these days and are 
    	these all seated or do you still have terraces available.
    
    2)	How far is the train station from the ground and are there plenty 
    	of pubs on the way.
    
    
    Regarding the game, alot will happen between now and then and from our
    point of view it will either be a nothing sort of game (too far behind
    United, 2nd place secured) or it will be a hell of a game (Still able
    to catch United).  I hope from your point of view it will be a nothing
    sort of game (ie: your away from the relegation zone.)  
    
    I saw the on SKY last night and I thought Soton played very well last
    night against L'pool and deserved the win.
    
    
    Regards
    Stephen  

RE:-1

The train station is about a 10 minute walk from the
Dell, down a road called Hill Lane, I think!!  You 
get a reasonable amount of tickets and being season
ticket holders you should be alright.

From a Kopite fortunate not to go last night!!

Chris.

    Stephen,
    
    Yes, the Dell is about 10 mins walk from  the station, but I don't
    think that it is called  Hill Lane, but come out of the station
    as if by car, turn immediately left at the Station Traffic Lights, then
    right at the next set of lights. Archers Road (The Away Supporters
    End) is then about 5 mins walk on the right. Away supporters are all
    seated either at the Archers Road end or the Upper East Stand.
    
    There are no pubs on the way. If your going from Bournemouth I suggest
    that you get an early train. The city centre is only 15 mins walk from
    the station at So'ton, so you could find plenty of pubs there.
    
    Keith.

Has anyone heard whether or not Saints got planning permission for their new
ground?  If not, what are the chances of them being kicked out of the Premier
League for not having a good enough ground?  

If they don't get relegated first that is 8-(

Mark

All the Premier teams who applied for extra time to get seating were told "no" 
- except Newcastle, tee hee. I don't think Southampton will get thrown out - 
but they'll have to close the standing areas.

Or are you a gloating Portsmouth supporter, Mark?!

grahame

Portsmouth (spit) supporter?????  No chance!!  

I thought that Premier grounds had to have minimum capacities, which The Dell
would not meet.

How come Newcastle were allowed extra time, and not the others??

Mark

Hi Mark,

Sorry Mark - but you are a rare breed you Saints supporters!

>How come Newcastle were allowed extra time, and not the others??

Dunno - unless it's to keep Keegan in with the FA so he can take over the 
England team . . .

g

    
     Re last couple.
    
    	Up here (Scotland), clubs who have been promoted to the Premier
    league within the last 3 or 4 years (I think) are allowed a longer time
    to comply with the all seater stadia rules than those who haven't been
    out of the top flight. Don't know if this system runs in England as
    well. Maybe?

that sounds like a good idea - otherwise small clubs would never get the chance
to play in the top league!

Only prob for Saints is, they've been in the top flight since 1978

Mark

Just received notice that Saints have had approval given for a new ground to be
built.....

I think this is at Stoneham Lane (in Eastleigh).  Apparently, residents views
have been over-ruled (about time to - the stadium will block out the noise from
the M27)


Anybody confirm this??

	Aaargh, oy remember when Saints had just won the F.A.Cup and the
	mayor of Southampton said the city would expedite their getting a
	new ground.

	Can't be more than twenty years ago.

	Elderly Saints Supporter of Spitbrook

	RE-2

	Yes, the Dept of the Environment have over-ruled Eastleigh Council and
	given Saints planning permission for a new ground. Now I guess we have
	to wait for the club to get the finances sorted out to enable the
	building to begin. 

	Lets just hope that getting the finances sorted out does not mean 
	selling Le Tissier.

				Stuart

	P.S 

	Wait for the moaning minnies of Eastleigh to start complaining about
	football hooliganism etc.

				

	RE last few: Isn't Stoneham Lane where they've got that massive 
cemetary ? Very tasteful building a football ground there.

	I'm probably wrong mind you.

So does anyone know where I can get a list of fixtures...then I can play
"predict the firt win of the season"...

As per usual, they'll no doubt get beaten by the small(er)-fry, beat the big
clubs (apart from Man U and Notts Forest), an struggle all year 8-(

M

Saint's sign someone - shock news!!! ;-)

Southampton have signed Johnny Eklund on a years loan from Barcelona. 
Apparently Alan Ball was moaning the the Spanish Club's boss about not being
able to find a striker, so Cruyff said "have one of mine..."

Also signing today is Bruce Grobbelaar, on a 2 year contract.  Perhaps he'll
make less blunders than Beasant.  Wonder where he'll go?

Mark

    
    Can someone from the Dell please let me know how many tickets
    Southampton are giving to the away fans this year.
    
    I'm a Blackburn Supportor and as yet the tickets for the opening game
    have not gone on sale.
    
    I travelled to the Dell last year and was somewhat confused how they
    were going to make it into a all-seater stadium ready for this year.
    
    Good luck for the coming season.
    
    regards
    Stephen

    Stephen
    
    I am unsure exactly how many tickets away fans will get but I'm sure 
    that it will be less than last season. The reason for this is that away
    fans have been moved from the Archers Road end to the upper and lower
    tiers of the East Stand (the stand to the left as you look from the
    Archers Road End).
    
    Stuart.
    

I think it's between 1,000 and 2,000

I saw Saints v Leeds and most of the Leeds
fans where sitting in Saints seats!!


Steve

	I'm visiting Britain (coming from the U.S.) for a week shortly,
	and just for once Southampton have a game I could actually get to -
	the rearranged home game against Crystal Palace on Wednesday
	22 March.

	This morning I phoned the "ticket info" number given in the Rothmans
	Football Yearbook. This connected me to a recorded message that
	gave me the information that:
		the game will be all ticket
		tickets are currently on sale to season ticket holders
		the ticket office is open 9a.m. - 5p.m Mon - Fri

	I'm not going to get to the Southampton area until the day before
	the game. Do I have any options other than happening by the ticket
	office then and hoping they still have tickets left?

	Tony

    Tony,
    
    I can't imagine why anyone would want to see the Scummers play but
    here's a suggestion that might help - put a reply in the Palace note
    and see if Mr Pateman can get you a ticket from the Sainsbury's mob
    allocation.
    
    Surely there are better games on that week that you could see? I'm sure
    Portsmouth have a game....
    
    Regards
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Tony,
    
    Call the ticket office (when it's open ;-}) and ask when tickets go on
    sale to 'the general public'). You should be able to order one by credit
    card (Visa) and pick it up on match day. 
    
    Tickets are normally sold first to seson ticket holders, then to
    members (official supporters) and finally what's left goes to Joe
    Public.
    
    Peter

I can't believe that this hasn't been entered yet but...

Brucie was arrested at 6:55 this morning on corruption charges.

That's all folks.

Peter.

vdvdvvdvdvdvdvd...Marvellous.....What do points make?...vdvdvdvdvdvdvdvv....
Didn't they do well......vdvdvdvdvdvdv.......Nice to see you...to see you...


A sad loss to the entertainment world.

    In addition to Brucie, John Fashanu's girlfriend, A Malaysian
    businessman and Hans Segers have all been arrested in connection with
    bribes. Charges are expected later today.
    
    Stuart 

John Fashanu's girlfriend is a Malaysian businessman?  I thought it was Justin 
that went in for that sort of thing...

A nice tie-in Matt to the ( team of foreigners who played in the Cup Final )
Liverpool note.

Well done my son,

Peter.

	re .70

>    Call the ticket office (when it's open ;-}) and ask when tickets go on
>    sale to 'the general public'). You should be able to order one by credit
>    card (Visa) and pick it up on match day. 

	For the record, the number for purchasing tickets by Access/Visa is
	01703-337171, not the "for all other calls" number mentioned on the
	ticket info tape.

	And it's now Newcastle they're playing next Wednesday.

	Tony

    Tony,
    
    Wonder who'll they have in goal now that Bruce is assisting the police
    with their enquiries.
    
    Regards
    
    Andrew.D.wicks

	re .77

	Well, Bruce was in goal and played magnificently to keep them in
	the game.

	They weren't selling any tickets over the phone, but by getting to
	Southampton before th ticket office closed on Tuesday I was able to
	get seats A1 and A2 in the Archers Road Wing of the Upper West Stand.
	In other words, end of the front row at the end where all the goals
	were scored.

	Saints were outplayed in the earlier part of the game and would have
	been buried but for Grobelaar. But they never gave up. Nonetheless
	Newcastle's total surrender in the last few minutes was surprizing.

	Tony

Bobby Stokes died yesterday aged 44.  He scored the winning goal in the 1976
Cup Final against Man Utd for Southampton.

For me he provided one of the best moments ever in a Cup Final.

	I know it's too much too expect to get the whole Southampton fixture
	list in here, but, do they have a game on or around November 22nd?

	Tony

    tony,
    
    i'm sure they do - though why you'd want to see them when you could
    travel a few miles further to see the mighty Portsmouth play - I don't
    know.!
    
    check out the www note (334?) for pointers to all the premier league
    teams home pages - i'm sure all have their relevant fixtures in by now
    
    regards
    
    Andrew.d.Wicks
                     

Alan Ball has been given permission to talk to Man City regarding the Manager's
job.

Al

Reckon the Le Tiss to Chelsea must be true if old squeeky voice is off.

I can't see where they've got the players/staff to stay up if those two go.

    I thought Soton were developing quite a decent team last season. 
    They've got a lot of youngsters so perhaps they need to buy in a
    a couple of the more-experienced playes knocking around - players like
    Houghton, Townsend etc.  With the 7/8/9m quid they could get for Le
    Tiss, Soton might not fair too badly out of the deal.  
    
    One thing that does surprise me (providing all this is true), is that
    Soton haven't attempted to involve clubs like Newcastle, Blackburn,
    Liverpool, Utd etc.  I'm sure the bidding would probably go to the
    9-10m mark, were these teams involved.

	re .84

>    a couple of the more-experienced playes knocking around - players like
>    Houghton, Townsend etc.  With the 7/8/9m quid they could get for Le

	You don't think the conditions that caused Townsend to leave
	Southampton still apply?

	Tony

    Was Andy Townsend ever at Soton? He went from Norwich to Chelsea to
    Villa, but Soton? Was he there before Norwich?
    
    Paul

	If memory serves, he joined Southampton from Weymouth and moved on
	to Norwich. Anyone got a Rothmans' handy?

	Tony

He went from Saints to Norwich for only �250K. He never seemed to get a game at
the Dell, but seemed to play very well at Norwich.

Matt

You can have him back if you want. He won't get into our midfield now we've got
Super Slapper Mark Draper.

Mike

    I see that after Grobelaar was charged, Rent-A-Gob MP Kate Hoey
    demanded a public inquiry into Football and the people who run it. What
    a waste of time and money. Everyone knows the FA couldn't organise a
    drinks party in a brewery and the chances are that anyone who replaced
    them would be just as incompetent.
    
    A final thought is that its a bit rich for someone who works with a
    large number of incompetents and crooks to complain about corruption in
    other areas.
    
    Stuart

      <<< Note 78.90 by CHEFS::STRATFORDS "Disconnect brain from mouth" >>>
                         -< the beginnings of a rant >-

>    I see that after Grobelaar was charged, Rent-A-Gob MP Kate Hoey
>    demanded a public inquiry into Football and the people who run it. What
>    a waste of time and money. Everyone knows the FA couldn't organise a
>    drinks party in a brewery and the chances are that anyone who replaced
>    them would be just as incompetent.
    
>    A final thought is that its a bit rich for someone who works with a
>    large number of incompetents and crooks to complain about corruption in
>    other areas.
    
     Stuart,

     Kate Hooey is a Labour MP and therefore spends her time working against
     "incompetents and crooks".

     Stuart

    Panesy,
    
    >Kate Hooey is a Labour MP and therefore spends her time working
    >against "incompetents and crooks".
    
    That is until they get into Government....
    
    Hugs
    
    Stuart
    

Shouldn't "against" read "with"?

    Matt, 
    
    In the original note, it did. Uncle Panesy was trying to intimate that
    only the tories are corrupt.
    
    Stuart$condescending_because_of_inside_information

	Wouldn't that last string have done better in EF?

	Anyway, who is going to be managing the Saints when the season
	starts?

	Tony

	re 496.2

> Manager: Dave Merrington (July 1995).

	Who he?

	Tony

    Tony,
    
    I think he was their youth team coach or scout prior to being appointed
    Alan Balls successor.
    
    Stuart

    
    ...and according to the electronic telegraph, he refers to himself,
    with a smile as 'Dave Who?'.
    
    Ian.

    I hate people who do this !!!!!!!!!!!
    
    		Contradictory_Stretch_for_the_hell_of_it_!!!!!!
    

Do it properly, for gods sake.  Snarf it, don't snart it...

    re .100
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Christ, he can't even get that right!
    
    Stuart

    OOOOPPPPPSSSSSS - I needed a fag quite badly. Realised as soon as it
    was entered. Sorry folks !!!!!
    
    		Cretinous_Stretch_who_needs_a_beer_badly(30 mins to go)

    Stretch,
    
    Wossup? Can't you wait until 6.30?

    Stuart,
                         
                         NO
    
    
    		Stretch_who_has_had_one_of_THOSE_days.

    Dunno if anyone is interesting but Souness has been appointed the new
    Southampton manager. Also - Palace are meant to be buying Neil
    Maddison.
    
    Paul

    
    Barry Venison must be p*ssed off then because Souness has already got
    rid of him twice...
    
    Mind you Vinny Jones/Julian Dicks/Neil Ruddock and all the other
    donkeys must be rubbing their hands with anticipation of a new pay
    day..
    
    Pj

    This has to be one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time,
    well done Stockport, good result.
    
    So the final has to be Wimbleeeedon & Middlesborough?
    
    Alen.
    
    
    Match report from The Times:
    
    Mutch keeps Stockport on Wembley way 
    
    BY ANDREW LONGMORE 
    
    Southampton ...1 Stockport County ...2 
    
    WITH some calm and no little poise, Stockport County continued their
    unlikely journey through the Coca-Cola Cup last night. Southampton were
    the latest victims, following Blackburn Rovers and West Ham United out
    of the competition, and Middlesbrough are no certainties to end the
    second division side's dream in the semi-final, for all their
    millionaire status. Stockport's band of veterans and young tyros cost
    about �400,000, a fraction of the money spent on Teesside. 
    
    These may be absurd heights for a side of Stockport's limited history
    and pretensions, but they are no strangers to the Twin Towers, having
    reached two finals of the Autoglass Trophy and the play-offs twice in
    the past decade. But Stockport for the Coca-Cola Cup final? They will
    certainly not be overawed by the sight of Juninho, Ravanelli and Co.
    "We will look forward to it," David Jones, the Stockport manager, said.
    "They've said this would be the easiest draw for them and, to be
    honest, the semi-final is a final for this club." 
    
    Though Southampton were woeful, despite Le Tissier's solo attempts to
    win this replay, nothing should be taken away from County, who absorbed
    the shock of an early goal, kept their composure and, slowly but
    surely, pushed Southampton back. The crowd at The Dell acknowledged
    that justice had been done. As Stockport celebrated wildly at the final
    whistle, they roundly jeered their own side before rising to applaud
    the winners off the field. 
    
    "It's not like we just hung on, we took the game to them," Jones said.
    "We were sloppy for the first ten minutes and were a little bit
    nervous." Yet, playing their fourteenth cup-tie of the season, and
    their fifth game in 15 days, it was Stockport who looked the stronger
    and steadier of the sides. 
    
    There have been times when Graeme Souness, the Southampton manager,
    would have reacted to such an ignominous defeat with a flurry of anger,
    but he is a calmer character these days, and his judgment was generous
    and accurate. "I have no complaints," he said. "They were better than
    us because, believe it or not, we had too many players who froze on the
    night." 
    
    History of sorts was made by one of the referee's assistants. Wendy
    Toms, a postal worker from Poole, has run the line in the Nationwide
    League, but became the first woman to be elevated to this level. A goal
    by Andy Mutch eight minutes from time sealed Stockport's piece of
    history. But the writing was on the wall for the Premiership side well
    before then. 
    
    Southampton had only themselves to blame. They had the perfect start
    when Le Tissier, who was fitfully brilliant, chested down Neilson's
    diagonal cross before volleying left-footed past Jones, but seemed to
    sit back and allow Stockport to recover their relentless rhythm. 
    
    Aware that Southampton's defence was eminently suspect, they simply
    collected their thoughts and pushed forward, playing well within
    themselves, although it was not until the 62nd minute that the
    equaliser came, Angell advancing to slide the ball under Beasant. 
    
    Southampton continued to rely on Le Tissier, both in defence and
    attack. The England international cleared off his line and, moments
    later, forced Jones to scramble to his left with a right-foot shot from
    30 yards. Once level, though, Stockport looked comfortably the more
    sure-footed. Le Tissier, again, brought the best out of Jones with a
    free-kick from fully 35 yards, but proved only the prelude to the final
    thrust by Stockport. 
    
    Momentarily caught flat-footed and square, the Southampton defence
    allowed the nippy Armstrong to outpace them to a long through-ball by
    Flynn. The young striker's shot was partially blocked by Beasant, but
    it ran to Mutch, who had only to touch the ball home from two yards.
    Mutch had been on the field for barely a minute. 
    
    "I was joking with him before he went on," Jones said. "I said I would
    give him a ride in my new car if he scored the winner for me." Jones,
    it seems, has a new sponsored car, but, as yet, no contract. "I've
    never worked with a contract. A handshake with the chairman at the
    start of the season has always been good enough for me." The chairman
    might think otherwise now. Jones is proving an adept and skilled young
    manager. 
    
    As for Souness, he can only pick up the pieces of defeat in time for
    the visit to Old Trafford on Saturday. "If you feel you're getting
    everything from your players, you can go home happy. I'm going home a
    very unhappy man tonight," he said. There will be no peace for him
    there, either. His wife, Karen, was crowned Miss Stockport 1979. 
    
    SOUTHAMPTON (3-5-1-1): D Beasant � C Lundekvam, U van Gobbel, K Monkou
    � M Oakley (sub: N Maddison, 46min), J Magilton, E Berkovic, R Slater
    (sub: D Hughes, 68), A Neilson � M Le Tissier � E Ostenstad. 
    
    STOCKPORT COUNTY (4-4-2): P Jones � S Connelly, M Flynn, J Gannon, L
    Todd � L Cavaco, T Bennett, A Dinning, K Durkan (sub: J Jeffers, 70) �
    A Armstrong, B Angell (sub: A Mutch, 82). 
    
    Referee: S Dunn. 
    
    Semi-finals
    
    Leicester City v Wimbledon (First leg Feb 18, second leg Mar 11)
    Stockport County v Middlesbrough (First leg Feb 19, second leg Mar 12) 
    

>    So the final has to be Wimbleeeedon & Middlesborough?
 
>    Alen.

Not necessary. Stockport where the better side last night and fully
deserved to win. Dispite going one down they always had the look about
them that they would win. They where patient and the deserved goals
came.

Middlesborough will have play better than they often have of late to get
passd them.

Rgds, Steve.

    Fair play to Stockport! A little bit of history was played out on Sky
    last night, and the deserving team came out winners in the end. Andy
    Mutch scoring in 15 seconds (OK, it may well have been going in anyway,
    but what the heck!) was excellent. Even the Soton fans were applauding
    the opposing team off the pitch!
    
                                    
    			
    
    			Stretch.

>                               Even the Soton fans were applauding
>    the opposing team off the pitch!
 
>      Stretch.


I thought that was very good of them. After a couple minutes of booing the
Southampton players of the pitch the whole crowd stood and applauded Stockport
who in return did a mini lap of honour and applauded the Southampton fans.

Good stuff!

Rgds, Steve.

Off IRN

Southampton midfielder Matt Le Tissier will play in tomorrow's crunch 
relegation battle at Nottingham Forest after making a sufficient recovery from a 
foot injury. 
Le Tissier has been troubled by the problem since the end of January, but a 
two week lay-off has helped the Saints star. 


Mad

Off Soccernet

Chesterfield striker Kevin Davies signed a three-year contract with Southampton 
yesterday. The fee for the 20-year-old
             will be decided by a tribunal. Saints have offered �1.25m and 
Chesterfield want �2m. 


MAD

Off Soccernet;
David Webb and Queen Park Rangers assistant manager Bruce Rioch emerged as front-runners for 
the vacant manager's job at Southampton today, writes Ken Dyer, of the London Evening 
Standard. 

It is rumoured the south coast club have, already made an official approach to Brentford for 
Webb, a former Southampton player 

Graeme Souness resigned as Southampton manager last month and the club have been searching 
for a replacement since then. 

It is not the first time that Webb has been coveted by the Premiership club. 

Southampton were keen on appointing Webb as manager two seasons ago but he turned down the 
move then and decided to stay at Brentford. 


Monday, June 2 1997 

West Ham tonight revealed the double signing of Israel international Eyal Berkovic for 
�1.75million from Southampton and QPR's Andy Impey in a �1.2m deal. 

Berkovic has signed a five-year contract and travelled to London today from the Israeli 
training camp to put pen-to-paper. 

Impey, an England Under-21 international, has signed for four years and QPR could yet net a 
further �200,000 if certain criteria are met. 


Sunday, June 1 1997 

Southampton will offer Matthew Le Tissier a one-year extension to his contract as they step 
up their search for a successor to Graeme Souness. 

Souness quit as boss last week claiming he could not take the club further but Saints 
chairman Rupert Lowe has promised the new man will have �5million to spend. 

A shortlist headed by ex-Everton boss Joe Royle and which also includes Ray Wilkins and Kevin 
Keegan has been drawn-up. 

But Saints are desperate to hang on to Le Tissier, 28, who has been linked with both Spurs 
and Chelsea. 

They are now ready to hand him an extension to his contract, which has one year to run, to 
underline their faith in him. 

One player definitely following Souness out of the Dell door is Israeli international Eyal 
Berkovic - a target for West Ham - and the Saints won't get a penny for the �2m-rated 
midfielder. 

He is out of contract with the South Coast side and was signed by Souness on a lease-back 
agreement with his Israeli outfit Maccabi Haifa. 

Spurs were on the brink of signing the Saints ace but pulled out at the last minute after 
deciding to move for Crewe starlet Danny Murphy. 

The Saints Board-elect are bracing themselves for protests from fans who want them to resign. 
That is unlikely with Lowe maintaining the new manager will have funds to spend. 

Southampton are also looking for a football director to replace Lawrie McMenemy who joined 
Souness in quitting.