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| 54.1 | Pre season games | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Aug 12 1991 11:41 | 10 |
| Pre season games involving the Clarets have not been too good. They lost
1-2 to Oldham on 8 Aug, and 1-0 to Preston North End on Sat 10th. I am
not sure if they will play Blackburn Rovers before the season starts. I
have asked BFC for a fixture list, so when I get it, I'll post it here.
I hope to see the Clarets a few times this season, for a 4th division
club, there is good support and a real atmosphere, even after what they
went through, Div 1 to almost out of the league, 1978-1985.
jb.
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| 54.2 | Hard Times at Turf Moor.... | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Aug 13 1991 14:01 | 22 |
|
I thought it was 5-1 to Preston ...8-( 8-( 8-(
Could be another season of disappointment and frustration at Turf Moor.
Sigh....
I remember sitting behind that goal watching The Clarets hold their own
with the best of them in the 70s...
..saw David O'Leary's debut for Arsenal there in 1975 (I think..).
Those were the days...
Andy.
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| 54.3 | Fixtures by Club | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:51 | 30 |
| Fixtures :-
Home Away
Aldershot Aug 24 Dec 21
Barnet Mar 7 Jan 25
Blackpool Feb 22 Jan 11
Cardiff Jan 4 Feb 29
Carlisle Oct 5 Apr 25
Chesterfld Sep 3 Jan 1
Crewe Sep 7 Apr 4
Doncaster Dec 28 Aug 31
Gillingham Jan 18 Mar 3
Halifax Mar 14 Nov 2
Hereford Mar 31 Sep 14
Lincoln Feb 8 Oct 26
Maidstone Mar 28 Nov 23
Mansfield Nov 9 Mar 21
Northampton Feb 11 Nov 30
Rochdale Sep 21 Apr 18
Rotherham Dec 26 Aug 17
Scarboro Apr 20 Sep 28
Scunthorpe Dec 14 Feb 15
Walsall Oct 19 Feb 1
Wrexham May 2 Oct 12
York Nov 5 Mar 10
The first match was away at Rotherham, a 2-1 defeat being the result.
jb.
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| 54.4 | By Date ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Aug 20 1991 19:26 | 50 |
| Date order :-
Rotherham Aug 17 away
Aldershot Aug 24
Doncaster Aug 31 away
Chesterfld Sep 3
Crewe Sep 7
Hereford Sep 14 away
Rochdale Sep 21
Scarboro Sep 28 away
Carlisle Oct 5
Wrexham Oct 12 away
Walsall Oct 19
Lincoln Oct 26 away
Halifax Nov 2 away
York Nov 5
Mansfield Nov 9
Maidstone Nov 23 away
Northampton Nov 30 away
Scunthorpe Dec 14
Aldershot Dec 21 away
Rotherham Dec 26
Doncaster Dec 28
Chesterfld Jan 1 away
Cardiff Jan 4
Blackpool Jan 11 away
Gillingham Jan 18
Barnet Jan 25 away
Walsall Feb 1 away
Lincoln Feb 8
Northampton Feb 11
Scunthorpe Feb 15 away
Blackpool Feb 22
Cardiff Feb 29 away
Gillingham Mar 3 away
Barnet Mar 7
York Mar 10 away
Halifax Mar 14
Mansfield Mar 21 away
Maidstone Mar 28
Hereford Mar 31
Crewe Apr 4 away
Rochdale Apr 18 away
Scarboro Apr 20
Carlisle Apr 25 away
Wrexham May 2
jb.
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| 54.5 | Super Whites | JGODCL::DAVIES | | Thu Sep 12 1991 17:36 | 7 |
| Saturday 14th Sept.
Hereford 2 Burnley 0
sorry lads!!.
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| 54.6 | Near the top. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 17:45 | 5 |
| Crewe drew 1-1 with Burnlry at Turf Moor on Saturday 7th, Crewe are
top, Burnley 2nd. The crowd was almost 10,000 - 3 times more than
watched Wimbledon vs Luton in Div 1.
jb.
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| 54.7 | Slipping back down 8-( | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Sep 23 1991 17:37 | 7 |
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Another dismal defeat at the weekend 8-(
Burnley 0-1 Rochdale (who are still unbeaten and going well).
Andy.
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| 54.8 | Casper goes. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Oct 04 1991 11:22 | 5 |
| Frank Casper has resigned as manager, following poor results. Burnley
are currently 10th, on 12 points from 10 games - not good enough, but
the season is not yet 1/4 over.
jb.
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| 54.9 | Sad times at Turf Moor....8-( | TRUCKS::SANT | | Fri Oct 04 1991 12:02 | 16 |
|
That's a shame....8-( Frank had Burnley blood in him, unlike some
of the more recent managers of this once-fine footballing side.
Burnley need to build from scratch and not try and buy short-term
success a la mid-eighties., but will this keep the Chairman happy?
A win on Saturday is vital against a poor Carlisle side only a
couple off the bottom of the division.
The season has a long way to go yet. Promotion is not essential
but after blowing a good chance last year some success is needed
to keep what little promise there is left.
Play Up the Clarets!
Andy.
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| 54.10 | Now 3rd - big game Sat. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Nov 06 1991 17:50 | 14 |
| Burnley are now 3rd, behind Mansfield and Barnet. Mansfield come to
Turf Moor on Saturday, and the game should be well attended, myself
included. Recent results have gone well for the Clarets, a 2-0 win on
Saturday vs Halifax at The Shay, followed by a 3-1 win vs York City
last night, watched by 7,300 - the 3rd largest crowd of the night, for
a full Div 2/3/4 fixture list. A few more results like the last ones
will put the Clarets in good stead - watch out for 15,000 crowds for
big matches if they stay near the top. Not bad for Division 4 - and eat
you hearts out Blackburn Rovers !
A crowd of 13,000 or so is to be expected on Saturday - the atmosphere
will be good - could better times be on the way back ?
jb.
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| 54.11 | On their way up ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 11 1991 11:00 | 27 |
| Clarets 3 Mansfield 2, Attendance 11,800
The biggest Div 4 crowd this season saw an entertaining game between
1st and 3rd of the division. The football wasn't classy, but it was
honest and entertaining, ans it gave a bit of neck ache if you
watched the ball to much ! Burnley went ahead on 7 minutes with a
Conroy penalty, the goalie bringing down a Burnley player when clean
through, the goalie went for the ball rather than scythe the man down,
so he didn't get booked or sent off. Mansfield then equalised on 33
with their first attack of the game. In the 2nd half, Burnley made it
2-1 with a good headed goal from a corner, Steve Davis the scorer.
Mansfield then had their best part of the game, equalising, and almost
getting a winner, Rogerr Eli, the Burnley sub, hit his own bar with a
clearance. Burnley got a deserved winner near the end, when John Pender
headed in from a corner, an almost carbon copy of the 1st goal. Burnley
are still 3rd, but only 4 points behind the leaders Barnet, and 2
behing 2nd placed Mansfield, with a game in hand over Barnet.
FA Cup action returns to Turf Moor on Saturday, Doncaster Rovers being
the opponents. Doncaster Rovers return the Wednesday, where they
clash again in the Autoglass Trophy. Wins are expected !
It is still early days, but the fans reckon this could be the first
part of the long road back - the support is there and there may be some
money available for team building.
jb.
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| 54.12 | Going well so far. | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Nov 11 1991 17:55 | 12 |
|
Thanks for the report JB...great to see the Clarets pulling them
in again!! Promotion this year, I hope...
Also, not only was it the largest gate in Div.4, it was the fourth
largest of the day in England! Tremendous support, even if the
Div.1 boys weren't playing, it've still have been more than some
of them get anyway...
Keep it oop lads.
Andy.
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| 54.13 | 100% in November !! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:43 | 22 |
| Jimmy Mullen has been awarded the manager of the Month Award for the
4th Division - 100% in November, and they haven't lost since he took
over ! Doncaster were disposed of in the Autoglass Trophy, and
Rotherham in the FA Cup at the weekend. Saturdat sees the Clarets
playing Scunthorpe at Turf Moor - hopefully another win. They are now
2nd, behind mansfield, Barnet having faltered somewhat.
I hope to see them on 28 December, they are home to Doncaster Rovers,
currently down amongst the dead men, and I hope it's another 3 points
for the Clarets (even though I am a Yorkshireman !!). Xmas fixtures are
:-
14 Dec Scunthorpe h
21 Dec Aldershot a
26 Dec Rotherham h
28 Dec Doncaster h
1 Jan Chesterfield a
3 Jan ???? FACR3
Will they be on top of Div 4 going into 1992 ?
jb.
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| 54.14 | Draw on Sat | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 16 1991 12:50 | 7 |
| The FAC R3 is home vs Derby - a tricky wisit for Derby to the League's
most in form team.
The Clarets could only draw at Turf Moor vs Scunthorpe on Sat, they are
2nd behind Mansfield.
jb.
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| 54.15 | TOP !! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 23 1991 15:30 | 6 |
| The Clarets are now top of Division 4, having beaten the Mighty Shots
2-1 on Saturday. 3rd placed Barnet beat top placed Mansfield, so
letting the Clarets in. Doncaster Rovers (bottom) are the visitors on
Saturday, Rotherham on Boxing Day - 6 points there I hope.
jb.
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| 54.16 | Top by 5 points | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Jan 02 1992 15:32 | 8 |
| 2 out of 3 at Xmas leaves the Clarets 5 points clear at the top of Div
4. The Clarets lost to Rotherham on Boxing day, then beat Doncater
Rovers at Turf Moor and won away at Chesterfield on New Years Day.
Derby County in the Cup on Sat, should be a good game - Burnley to edge
it.
jb.
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| 54.17 | Winning run ends | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 13 1992 11:48 | 18 |
| Burnley 2 Derby 2
18,000 packed into Turf Moor to see an entertaining 2-2 draw. Derby
went ahead on 28 seconds - their first attack caught the Clarets cold.
Burnley were level after 6 minutes, a great crodd, Eli scoring. The
game was good end to end stuff, and Derby went ahead on 71 against the
run of play. Burnley made it 2-2 with 9 minutes to go with a great
goal, and finished stronger of the 2 sides, all in all, a good game.
Burnley's fine away run of 8 victories on the trot ended on Saturday at
Blackpook, they went down 5-2, and are now 2nd behind Mansfield, 2-0
winners at York. Barnet went down 5-2 at home vs Rotherham. A Leeds
player on Loan to Blackpool (Kerr) scored 1 of the goals. Forthcoming
games are Tuesday 14th, Derby away, FAC R3 replay, Sat 18th, Gillingham
home, Sat 25th, Barnet away (or FAC R4), Sat 1 Feb Walsall away.
jb.
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| 54.18 | Saved by the fog | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Jan 15 1992 10:35 | 13 |
| Derby 2 Burnley 0
(Abandoned after 72 minutes - fog)
The weather came to Burnley's rescue last night, they were on the way
out and then the fog came down. They have another go on Sat 25 Jan, the
4th round day, so Villa will be left kicking their heels on that day.
Home to Gillingham on Sat, a win here to keep their Championship bid on
the rails and to get last Saturdays' 5-2 reverse out of their system.
There is also an Autoglass Trophy game coming up next week against
xxxxx, so the FACR3 replay cannot take place then.
jb.
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| 54.20 | | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 27 1992 11:37 | 14 |
| Derby 2 Burnley 0 - no abandonement this time !
Derby went through to a Midlands 'Derby' with the Villa, after being
given a fright by the Clarets. A Gee free kick gave Derby the lead in
the 2nd half (a real scorcher), and a mistake by the Clarets goalie,
dropping a backpass, let Ormondroyd in to get the 2nd. Burnley had
their chances, but they didn't take them / were thwarted by Shilton.
The Clarets are out, but it took 3 games - that will have put some
money into the bank / director's pockets. The League is now the top
priority, they are still top, although the Autoglass Trophy could
result in a trip to Wembley - they play Scarborough on Wednesday, the
first attempt last week was frozen off after 90 minutes.
jb.
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| 54.21 | Burnley going well. | TRUCKS::SANT | | Wed Feb 12 1992 15:04 | 18 |
|
I see the Clarets humped Northampton 5-0 last night to stretch
their lead at the top of the 4th Division. Attendance once again
good - over 8K for an evening k.o. - and for all you Reading
fans Conroy scored again.. With close rivals Mansfield recently
going off the boil the only current threat is from Blackpool and
Barnet.
This could be the year for Burnley to finally extricate themselves
from the basement. The glory days of the sixties are a long way
away but they must be doing something right at Turf Moor and I
hope they can clinch promotion outright so's to avoid the kind
of disappointment of last season's play-off defeat.
Did you go jb?
Andy.
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| 54.22 | No. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Feb 12 1992 16:18 | 9 |
| No I didn't, I'm in Warrington 'Decworld on a Desktop' ing. I didn't
get to the game on Saturday, I have crocked my neck in a car accident
so I didn't feel up to it (pause for tea & sympathy ;-) ).
The Clarets are on the up, and they play some impressive football, I
could see them going straight through Div 3 next season, they have the
support.
jb.
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| 54.23 | Burnley 1 - 1 Blackpool | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Feb 25 1992 20:55 | 16 |
|
The Clarets managed a draw at home to the second-placed Seasiders
on Saturday in front of a crowd of over 18,000 - the ninth highest
of the day in England.
Burnley remain on top on GD from Blackpool, with two games in hand.
With Barnet getting humped at Rotherham, the chasing group is just
hanging on to these two now. It would be nice to see Blackpool go
up with Burnley this season, a promise of a return to former
glories for both these once-great clubs.
Tough game on Saturday, away to improving Cardiff, themselves now
entertaining thoughts of a promotion place in about 5th position.
Should be a good game.
Andy.
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| 54.24 | Burnley 3 - 0 Barnet | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Mar 09 1992 17:06 | 20 |
|
The Clarets won again on Saturday, at home to Barnet.
After the 3-0 thumping away to Gillingham in mid-week and thus
giving up top spot to Blackpool, Burnley needed to get back to
winning ways against fading Barnet, and they ran out comfortable
3-0 winners in front of over 12,000 at Turf Moor and recapture
first place in the division due to Blackpool's inactivity.
Barnet are now dropping off the pace, and with most of the other
top sides dropping points Burnley's win was invaluable. They now
look very good for one of the automatic promotion slots, with
possibly Blackpool and Mansfield. Crewe, Rotherham and Cardiff
seem to be competing with Barnet now for the play-off places.
I'm hopeful they can go up as Div.4 champions in May.
And for the Reading fan (who would need a good memory to remember
what 12,000 in Elm Park looks like!) Conroy *didn't* score.. 8-)
Andy.
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| 54.25 | Que Sera Sera ..... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learnt to swim | Mon Mar 09 1992 17:29 | 12 |
| > And for the Reading fan (who would need a good memory to remember
> what 12,000 in Elm Park looks like!) Conroy *didn't* score.. 8-)
Not that long ago 4 years + 1 wk
March 2 1988
Reading v Coventry City - Simod Cup Semi Final
Ah yes! I remember it well :-) :-)
Al
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| 54.26 | For a LEAGUE game you'd have to go back to ??? when? | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Mar 10 1992 09:25 | 10 |
|
Ok, Al....a *League game* I meant... 8-}
I realised once I'd written it that Reading had a few good cup
crowds a few years ago. How many for the Arsenal game in the 3rd
round of the FA Cup when Reading lost 3-1? Probably about 15K?
Anyway....
Andy.
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| 54.27 | Is it really 7 years ago !!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learnt to swim | Tue Mar 10 1992 11:04 | 13 |
| Andy,
The previous league game would probably be back in Oct 1985.
Reading v Wolves
A win would mean 14 straight wins in a row at the beginning of the
season, extending their record. Unfortunately they drew 2-2. I believe the
official attendance was exactly 15K. with a few thousand locked out. During the
latter stages of that run, Elm park was always packed. Unfortunately after the
hopes of extending the record dissappeared, the crowds dropped by about half :-(
Al
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| 54.28 | | COMICS::WATTERSON | | Tue Mar 10 1992 11:39 | 5 |
|
A 15 year old apprentice died at Turf Moor, Burnley when he fell off
the roof of a stand where he was trying to retrieve a lost football.
Paul
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| 54.29 | Burnley hitting good form at the right time. | TRUCKS::SANT | another day in paradise? | Fri Apr 03 1992 12:10 | 16 |
|
The Clarets visit chasing Crewe tomorrow looking hot favourites not
only for promotion but also the Div.4 title.
11� thousand turned up at Turf Moor to see a 2-0 win midweek
against Hereford (Conroy scored again!), and with Blackpool's 1-0
away defeat this leaves Burnley now 6 points clear and with a game
in hand. A very nice position indeed..
Blackpool still look most likely to pose the biggest threat, with
Mansfield dropping points, and with local rivals Rochdale making a
late run into the play-off placings Burnley must feel they have one
foot in Div.3 already...
Andy.
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| 54.30 | Clarets on Top | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 03 1992 12:24 | 15 |
| Burnley are doing well, they also have very good support - they get
better crowds than their money bag neighbours down the road (Blackburn
Rovers, currently going through a sticky patch, will they miss out on
automatic promotion ?). Their next home match appears to be Scarborough
on Easter Monday, it looks as I won't be able to see them again this
season, as Leeds' and the Clarets' Home matches correspond - hopefully
this won't be the case next season. Burley are also in the Northern
Final of the Autoglass Trophy, they play Stockport, currently doing
well at around the top of Div 3, it will be a test for them. Burnley
could do well next season in Div 3, I can see them going straight
through to Div 2.
It's a far cry from 1986.
jb.
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| 54.31 | Away loss | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 06 1992 17:36 | 6 |
| Crewe beat Burnley 1-0 at the weekend, but Burnley remain top and well
placed for the Championship. The Autoglass Trophy Norther Final over 2
legs is to be played next, a Wembley appearance is on the
cards.(Opponents Stockport)
jb.
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| 54.32 | Top again and looking good. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 21 1992 12:53 | 8 |
| The Saturday game vs Rochdale was postponed, a waterlogged pitch being
to blame. Burnley drew 1-1 with Scarboro' on Easter Monday, going back
to the top on 73 points, the same as Blackpool (lost 2-0 at Rotherham)
and Mansfield (result ?). Burnley have 3 games in hand, so I hope they
doon't get into a fixture tangle in the next 2 weeks, they have 5 games
to play !
jb.
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| 54.33 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | Britons. The ultimate masochists. | Tue Apr 21 1992 13:52 | 6 |
|
Did Stockput County complete the job on Burnley and make it to the
final of that weird competition?
Stockport at Wembley! Stockport in the 2nd division! What is the
world coming to?
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| 54.34 | Yes | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 21 1992 14:29 | 4 |
| Stockport won the 2nd leg 2-1 and so play Stoke in the final of the
Autoglass Trophy.
jb.
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| 54.35 | Sockport Wembley | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Tue Apr 21 1992 16:05 | 11 |
| Stockport as jb mentioned are at Wembley in the Autoglass Trophy Final.
They had a quiet Easter break with goal-less draws against Bury on
Saturday, and against Stoke yesterday, a fore-runner for the final.
Lets hope it brings a couple of goals.
Stockport are 4/5 at the end of yesterday, and still in with a chance
of automatic promotion, if not then they should still be in the
play-offs.
mac
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| 54.36 | Burnley champs... | TRUCKS::SANT | I owe,I owe,so off to work I go | Wed Apr 29 1992 09:48 | 13 |
|
With a Francis winning goal in injury time to beat York City,
the Clarets have clinched the 4th Division Championship.
Excellent season for Burnley. I hope they can go on and do a
good job in the 3rd next season. I'd love to see them back up
in at least the 2nd division - they have the support for much
better things.
This makes up for some of my disappointment at United throwing
away the title...
Andy.
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| 54.37 | Burnley Too !!!!!!!!!!!! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 11:56 | 9 |
| A great win last night - that's my 2 teams winning a Championship each
in the space of 2 days! I hope their fixtures next season don't clash.
There was a crowd of 8,000 at Bootham Crescent last night, the biggest
this season, with many locked outside.
Burnley could go on throught Div 3 - they have the support, thay could
be playing Blackburn Rovers soon (they'll never go up).
jb.
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| 54.38 | Burnley finish on a win. | TRUCKS::SANT | Charity? Don't mind if I do, mate.. | Wed May 06 1992 09:45 | 10 |
|
Burnley completed their successful season last night by ending
local rivals Rochdale's hopes of a play-off place, winning 3-1
at Spotland. Barnet therefore take the fourth play-off place.
Burnley finish on 83 points, six clear of runners-up Rotherham.
Andy.
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| 54.39 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | eighty four days and counting | Mon Aug 23 1993 10:32 | 7 |
|
Promotion hopefuls? Pah! goal-fodder for Reading.
Tony
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| 54.40 | The Bob Lord memorial note. | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Fri Apr 22 1994 14:42 | 20 |
|
Good to see the Scumley faithful littering this note with high praise
for their team. 1 note last year, probably 1 note this year too. Well
done lads ;-).
For those of you loyal clarets who decided to get as far away from the
town as you could, you may be interested to know the following:
Last night 9,000 (yes, thats nine thousand) of your close relatives
turned out at Turf Moor to watch the final of the Lancashire Youth Cup.
BURNLEY YOUTH 2 : 4 MANCHESTER UNITED YOUTH
Hopefully in a few years time some of these boys will be able to give
the town a decent team, it'll be the first time since Bob Lord went if
they do.
Cheers and good luck in the playoffs if you can make it,
Andy
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| 54.41 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Fri Apr 22 1994 18:13 | 10 |
|
Ok Andy I'll rise to the bait...
The Clarets will make the play-offs. Not sure they'll travel too
well though, but then I suppose really great claret never does ;-)
My home town boys will be back. I mean, half of them are almost
brothers ;-)
Andy.
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| 54.42 | | HBFDT1::SCHARNBERG | Senior Kodierwurst | Thu May 19 1994 10:27 | 27 |
| As you might have guessed (cf. 377.0 or so) I found a football magazine
in the tube this morining :-)
It also had a section on great international junior (U-21 or U-18)
tournaments this weekend:
.... and !!!! ->
TSV Plattenhardt Junior Tournament aprticipants:
Dynamo Kiew
Rapid Vienna
Dukla Prague
SSV Reutlingen
VfL Kirchheim
TSV Plattenhardt
VfL Wolfsburg
Darmstadt 98
Fortuna Cologne
Csepel Budapest
EPS Kilkis (Greece)
BURNLEY FC
Cheers.
Heiko
PS: I have no idea where Plattenhardt is :-)
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| 54.43 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Tue May 24 1994 10:27 | 21 |
|
Just thought I'd mention this for all you 100's of Burnley
read-only noters...
I was wrong - Burnley travelled extremely well! After a nil-all
draw at Turf Moor against Plymouth, the Clarets went down to
Plymouth last week and won the 2nd leg 3-1 after going a goal
behind.
They now face Stockport County at Wembley at the weekend for a
place back in the top two divisions, from where Burnely have been
absent since the mid-80's.
I'm sure you Reading supporters will testify that we can do without
Stockport going up, with their own inimitable interpretation of
football.
Preston are in the div.3 final by playing the same neck-aching style.
It won't surprise many to hear their manager is John Beck...
Andy.
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| 54.44 | Those were the days ... | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Tue May 24 1994 11:33 | 25 |
|
According to Radio Lancashire - Preston have sold 25,000 tickets and have
been given 3,000 more - Burnley have sold 25,000 and have asked for
5,000 more. Looks like the biggest day out for the family since the
Sherpa Van Trophy Final in '87 ;-)
Burnley have also released a record, which apart from being as totally
crap as ALL other football records starts with the orgasmic Radio Lancs
commentators "ITS FRANCIS, FRANCIS, JOHN FRANCIS, OH HE'S DONE IT
AGAIN!" from the second leg at Plymouth.
This will no doubt follow "they think its all over" and "do I not like
that" into footballing legend.
My mate the Burnley fan is very embarrassed by the fact that anyone who
saw Burnley's goals against Plymouth might be tempted to think John
Francis has an ounce of talent. He assures me this is not the case !
Cheers,
Andy
p.s. Strange to think that the football world was once dominated by
the real Lancashire clubs, Blackburn, Burnley, Preston, Accrington,
Bolton, Blackpool. One day....
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| 54.45 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Tue May 24 1994 12:21 | 8 |
|
Andy, take a look at the very first league make-up in 188?. I think
there were 12 clubs. 6 of them were from the NW.
Burnley will do will in div.1 if they get there. Only hump-it-up
County with there 9'8" lampost stand in their way.
Andy.
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| 54.46 | County in the Premiership after next season :_0 | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Tue May 24 1994 12:36 | 31 |
|
re -1
"Burnley will do will in div.1 if they get there. Only hump-it-up
County with there 9'8" lampost stand in their way."
County do not "hump-it-up" as you say, in fact they play more along the
ground than most other teams in the 2nd Division, as they have quite a
small back line.
Kevin Francis, whom I presume you refer to as the 'lampost'(I dare you
to say that to his face :_)))) has more skill on the ground than people
give credit for. I would have said 80% of his goals were scored either
at ground level or by volley. Andy Preece is another who has this habit
of finding the back of the net(as QPR found out), and along with a
Chris BEaumont have a formiddable front line that I think the 1st
Division will have problems with, height wise as well.
Quite a few 1st and Premierr division teams have been interested in the
above 3 mentioned players, so the style of football can't be too bad.
Have to ask as to when did you watch Stockport County, as they do not
have as much TV coverage as say Swindon!!!!
On the subject of tickets, County say they have only managed to sell 4
thousand of their allocated amount, rumour being that they will fail
again at Wembly as they have done in the past.....(4 times at Wembly in
the last 3 years.... can Burnley compete, I mean Wembly is like a
second home to the County :-) :- )
mac :-) :-)
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| 54.47 | ... | GVA02::LUANDA::Lainsbury | I didn't do it. | Tue May 24 1994 13:57 | 15 |
| Re:-1
I've only seen Francis at Elm Park the last two seasons and he was a
total Donkey. I'm sure he has played better against other teams but this
season's game was probably his worst, as every time the ball came his way, it
was off his shin,knee, and countless other boney bits on those spindly things
you call his legs.
IMO, he's a donkey, but he is dangerous in the air with his height.
But I'll agree Andy Preece is good, of what I've seen of him.
Considering I don't like Burnley either, I hope it's a draw, and
someone else goes up.8^)))
Andy
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| 54.48 | Do they have a football pitch at Wembly too ? | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Tue May 24 1994 15:22 | 12 |
| Re: .46
> County do not "hump-it-up" as you say, in fact they play more along the
> ground than most other teams in the 2nd Division, as they have quite a
> small back line.
I'm not sure that I follow the logic here. As Jon has mentioned several
times, I'm not very tall. However, that doesn't stop me from being able
to kick the ball up into the air ;-)
Jerry.
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| 54.49 | Harry Haslam, Danny Begara wibbly wobbly woo.... | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Wed May 25 1994 10:12 | 6 |
| If Danny Begara is still manager at Stockport I'd like them to win. He
is a real football character. He is originally from Uraguay but he
talks with a mix of accents from South America, Yorkshire and whatever
passes for a language on that side of the Pennines.
Paul.
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| 54.50 | I remember Beckindale | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed May 25 1994 13:03 | 9 |
| Paul,
Danny B is still at Stockport and the language over here is English, I
appreciate you may not be too familiar with it as most of your close
friends will be Sheep !
Cheers,
Andy :-)
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| 54.51 | Baaaaall*cks | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Wed May 25 1994 14:05 | 17 |
| >appreciate you may not be too familiar with it as most of your close
>friends will be Sheep !
Andy,
I've been found out! However, I must point out that my relationship
with Flossie is purely platonic, unlike some on the other side of the
hills.
Yours in friendly Roses rivallry.
Paul.
PS I thought Stockport was in Cheshire (as Manchester used to be).
PPS Your note a while ago about Thwaites v Bods - no contest. The
Blackburn beer is far better, but not as good as Tim Taylors.
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| 54.52 | Two of my hobbies (neither involve sheep) | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed May 25 1994 14:31 | 30 |
| Paul,
Beer and Football ! - this just gets better and better but we can't
really continue in a Burnley FC Note.
However there is a football connection so I will ramble on if I may:
Anyone who knows about Beer will know of Blackburns glorious past, with
3 breweries in the town just 20 years ago things were looking good,
Thwaites, Duttons and Lion (a.k.a Matthew Brown). But then along came
the brewing premiership and Whitbreads took over Duttons, S&N took
over Matty Browns (and shut it down), and only Thwaites remains
independant. The town remains well served by Pubs, and my favourite crawls
are now immensely rich in variety... many tales of which can be told
but are hardly appropriate given that Football noters are only really
interested in discussing the merits of 4-5-1 and who's buying who.
To get back to football, it is believed that the McEwans sponsorship of
Rovers is not unconnected to the incredible battle that took place when
S&N, in a hostile takeover battle, swore to develop the Lion Brewery
and then having won the battle developed it as a car park ! The reason
for this, albeit denied at the time, was that S&N already had over
capacity and only wanted Matty Browns large network of Pubs in such a
heavy drinking area.
Thankyou for listening,
Cheers
Andy
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| 54.53 | pass me another one of those things, would you? | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Thu Jun 02 1994 18:03 | 20 |
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Well for you 1000's waiting with baited parts.....
The mighty Clarets were victorious on Sunday, defeating a dirty
bunch of cloggers from down the A6 (the best thing to come out
of Stockport is the Marple Road..)
Burnley won 2-1, and Stockport had two of their thugs banished
from the field before the fat lady sang. 467,000 fanatical
Burnley supporters filled Wem-ber-ley as the great stadium
welcomed back one of its favourite teams.
This is magnificent for Burnley, and sees their deserved return
into the top half of the football league (2nd div. in old money).
Turf Moor will be buzzing next season as they welcome the teams
from such hotbeds of soccer as Grimsby, Barnsley, Watford and
Swindon, to name but none.
Andy.
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| 54.54 | Is he for real ? | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Thu Jun 02 1994 18:27 | 10 |
| RE: -1
> 467,000 fanatical Burnley supporters filled Wem-ber-ley.
That'ld fill it alright !
Jerry.
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| 54.55 | Or do you support Maanu because they win things | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Thu Jun 02 1994 18:27 | 15 |
| Andy,
>from the field before the fat lady sang. 467,000 fanatical
>Burnley supporters filled Wem-ber-ley as the great stadium
>welcomed back one of its favourite teams.
30000 Burnley supporters and 437,000 flies who certainly know a pile of
cr*p when they see it. (better put quite a few smileys after that _
don't want to upset anyone).
Andy, do I take it from this that your first team is in fact Burnley
and all the notes in 32 are merely a distraction from your true
calling??
Paul.
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| 54.56 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Fri Jun 03 1994 10:42 | 14 |
|
Not really, Paul. United are my team.
Burnley are my home town, and I've sat behind the goal at Turf Moor
many times between '69 and '76, mostly spent in div.2, sometimes in
div.1. Burnley has always been a friendly family-type place to go
to watch football. United, on the other hand, has much more
fanaticism and expectation. My dad took me to OT when I was but
a lad. All the rest of the family were City supporters and they
were more successful between '69 and '76, so there was plenty of
rivalry.
Andy.
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| 54.57 | I've been there on Boxing Day | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Fri Jun 03 1994 13:50 | 16 |
|
>> Burnley has always been a friendly family-type place to go
to watch football.
Not if you went there in a Blackburn scarf !
Given that the team has not been too successful in the last 20
years Burnley have always had great support but equally has
always had a little more than their fair share of nutters.
Cheers,
Andy
P.S. Plans are already in place to make Turf Moor all-seater. This is
becoming mandatory for Div 1 clubs.
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| 54.58 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Fri Jun 03 1994 14:31 | 15 |
|
Unfortunately, Andy, there are "nutters" wherever you go....
I've said this in here before, but the worst violence I've ever
had first-hand experience of was at Ewood Park for a Blackburn v
Burnley Lancs Cup game about 20 years ago. I was on the upper tier
behind the end opposite the Darwen Road end (make sense??) and
the nutters were kicking the sheet out of each other all around me.
I was terrified and had nowhere to go to get away except a 20foot
jump to the terrace below.
And it was a meaningless match on an Easter bank holiday!!
Nutters..
Andy.
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| 54.59 | I think I was stood below | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Fri Jun 03 1994 16:33 | 12 |
| Andy,
yes, I was probably there ! and local derbys always create
segregation problems.
You were in the Riverside stand. Basically you shouldn't have been
sold tickets for this side as this has always been all home fans.
Cheers,
Andy
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| 54.60 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Mon Jun 06 1994 11:10 | 5 |
|
We were staying with relatives in Hoddlesden, so went to the game
'on spec'. We didn't go with an organised trip from Burnley...
Andy.
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| 54.61 | And Gooch won't average 20 against us | GLADYS::CRAVEN | When you buy a Big Mac you get a bag | Tue Jun 07 1994 04:23 | 9 |
| G'day Andy,
Tell us more of your stories of Burnley, they sound interesting,
also can you do a few cunnoist pieces on some of their players of
that era when they were in Div. 1 in the 70's.
P.S. I visited your town in 1984 visiting a cousin. Why do you support
the red s.?
Ica
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| 54.62 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Tue Jun 07 1994 11:31 | 14 |
|
Well one of the best goalkeepers I can remember from my youth was
Peter Mellor. He was between the posts for Burnley in the early
'70s and was a tremendously athletic and spectacular shot-stopper.
Burnley transferred him to Fulham once they got into div.1,
replacing him with John Stephenson I think..
Mellor went on to have a nightmare in the '75 cup final, when 2nd
div. Fulham lost 2-0 to two Alan Taylor goals for West Amm. One
went through Mellor's legs � la Shilton v Poland '73. Mellor ended
his career at Portsmouth, and in fact was Pompey's last goalkeeper
before Alan Knight, their current 'keeper.
Andy.
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| 54.63 | Burnley trivia for Ica :-) | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Jun 08 1994 10:02 | 13 |
|
Another Burnley 'great', Leighton James, the welsh winger (hands up all
those who remember him) last night got the sack from his position as
Manager of Morecambe Town for whom he had been very successful.
Interviewed this morning on Radio he said he was sacked "because he
refused an invitation to resign".
Cheers,
Andy
p.s. Keith Newton left Burnley and found fame as a newsagent in Blackburn.
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| 54.64 | also from that era | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Wed Jun 08 1994 10:30 | 3 |
| How about Martin Dobson, Ralph Coates ( with the Bobby Charlton
hairstyle ) ? Also, did the right winger, Dave(?) Thomas, play for them
before he went to QPR ?
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| 54.65 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Wed Jun 08 1994 11:41 | 13 |
|
Dave Thomas was magnificent at Burnley, a real crowd favourite.
He was sold (as was Burnlley's want in the 70's with most of their
best players) to QPR, where he was also popular I remember.
Some other Burnley players that were sold include Bryan Flynn
(Leeds), Martin Dobson (Everton), Tony Morley (Villa). There were
others. The Burnley board (ie. Bob Lord) were often criticised around
that time for selling the club's future for short-term profit. The
80's decline almost saw this once-great club disappear from the then
football league. Norwich City and others beware....
Andy.
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| 54.66 | The names Bond, John Bond. | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Jun 08 1994 14:02 | 20 |
| Andy,
The reason why Burnley really fell apart was JOHN BOND, who came to
Burnley and spent a fortune on the same people he wasted a lot of
Man City's money on, especially Kevin Reeves (who?).
I'm sure i've mentioned this before but Bob Lord held Burnley
together, they didn't realise just how much they needed him until
he'd gone. His club was envied throughout the league for its youth
policy and the 'develop to sell to survive' strategy may have stopped
them ever being great but it kept the club in Divisions 1 & 2 for a
long time. Bob Lord kept things under tight control in a style similar
to that of Ken Bates at Chelsea.
Incidentally, more recent Burnley boys were Micky Phelan (he'll be back)
and Trevor Steven.
cheers,
Andy
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| 54.67 | | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Wed Jun 08 1994 15:27 | 21 |
|
Phelan and Steven were long after my times spent at Turf Moor,
Andy...
As for Lord, we have a difference of opinion. Yes, the youth
policy at the club was excellent, as the players we can mention
as having started there testify to. But he ruled with a rod of
iron, and upset many close supporters of the club with his
selling of crowd favourites. Often the reason was 'sell-to-survive'
but it hardly worked eventually. Bond was a disaster at the club,
but brought players in that he thought would do the job for him.
They didn't. Burnley were relegated after getting back into div.2.
The Burnley faithful don't like Mr Bond very much and there have
been stories in the past of threats to him and his family from
fans upset with what he did. I think that's terrible. The man was
and still is a useless turkey but that doesn't give anybody the
right to hound him like that imo.
Andy.
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| 54.68 | VP's are only popular in Blackburn | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Jun 08 1994 15:51 | 15 |
| Andy,
can you think of any football club where the supporters like the
Chairman ?
I suppose I liked Bob because Burnley supporters used to give him so
much grief but you have to admit that until he brought in Bond
(the only time he listened to the fans and succumbed to the calls for
a big name manager!) the club had been in pretty good shape. Never
world beaters, but what do you expect from a small town in the
shadow of Accrington.
Cheers,
Andy
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| 54.69 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Wed Jun 08 1994 16:49 | 6 |
| well, Burnely did win the championship in the 60's and did quite well
in the European Cup, which is a better record than some of their
neighbours!
As for chairmen being liked, Sam the Man at the 'Dons would be one,
Franny Lee another,
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| 54.70 | If you make the questions easy enough ... | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Jun 08 1994 17:16 | 18 |
| 2-points to Simon,
Yes, Burnley were more successful than Blackburn in the 60's while
Bob Lord was running the show, I think that supports my theory.
I agree Sam at Wimbledon is relatively popular but he too is criticised
when he sells to survive, he might even go the same way as Bob Lord
if Wimbledon had enough fans to raise more than a muttering of
complaint !. Franny Lee is probably the most popular
chairman at the moment but he does have the luxury of taking over from
one of the most unpopular chairmen in modern football history.
So tell us about Burnley in the European Cup ?, this was before my
time.
Cheers,
Andy
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| 54.71 | Molby at Barnsley | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Fri Sep 22 1995 09:55 | 5 |
|
A great day for Barnsley fans? You have BF Jan for a month. On his day
one of the best passers of a ball in European football.
Neil
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| 54.72 | Hmmm .... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this company | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:03 | 13 |
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> <<< Note 54.71 by FORTY2::JONES "Neil" >>>
> -< Molby at Barnsley >-
> A great day for Barnsley fans? You have BF Jan for a month. On his day
> one of the best passers of a ball in European football.
> Neil
So why is this note in the Burnley topic ?
Confused of East Cheam.
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| 54.73 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:04 | 7 |
| >>one of the best passers of a ball in European football.
how true...
He was always a rock in Liverpools midfield...
or a blamange(sp?).
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| 54.74 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:12 | 6 |
| Malc,
Burnley, Barnsley. They are both north of Watford so to us Southerners
there is no difference.
Stuart
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| 54.75 | not barnsley surely? | COMICS::HAWLEYI | No.1 with line managers everywhere! | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:45 | 2 |
|
well, which one is it?
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| 54.76 | oops | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:05 | 14 |
|
Hi,
Excuse the mishtake, I was busy debuging something in another window
and mis-read the note title. I mean how provocative can one get? Fancy
confusing Lancashire with Yorkshire.
Jan is going to BARNSLEY for a month at his own request. Obviously the
Pontins League is not very interesting for him.
I do have a snippet of Burnley info. The famous Long Side terrace is
being demolished. Does this get me off the hook?
Neil
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| 54.77 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:12 | 11 |
| >Fancy confusing Lancashire with Yorkshire.
Yep... Lancashire is the place will all the flat caps & pigeons
etc...
Where as Yorkshire is a up market.. hip happening place... full of
talented people with regional accents....
Cheers,
Rick.
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| 54.78 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:13 | 5 |
| Neil,
No.
Stuart
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| 54.79 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:20 | 8 |
| >>talented people with regional accents....
Ooooh nooooooo.
Tooooney Yebooooooaah.
Something like that Rick?
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| 54.80 | Handy Hints for travelling "oop north" | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:31 | 7 |
| The last note was completely inaccurate as it did not refer to
"whippets", "cloth caps", "pigeons" nor did contain the saying "aye
lass", all of which are essential for any conversation North of
Nottingham. Indeed mention these words in conversation and people will
believe you are a native.
Stuart
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| 54.81 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:37 | 7 |
| You sound like a natural Trev....
You wouldn't think that you came from Swindon....
Cheers,
Rick.
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| 54.82 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Fri Sep 22 1995 11:40 | 6 |
| Swindon?
Get real, I don't come from anywhere with a second division team.
I'm from somewhere with a Beazer Homes league team...
Salisbury, and don't you forget it!
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