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Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
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18.0. "Spanish League" by GALVIA::SPAIN (New personal name wanted) Thu Aug 08 1991 14:58

    
    This is the Spanish League topic.
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18.1LIGA ESPA�OLAMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumWed Aug 14 1991 16:2915
    Hi there!
    
    I could see from the former notesfile that some people missed me.
    
    Now, I am back again (now a married man...) to post Spanish League
    results and to clear doubts about Spanish football. By the way, the
    Liga starts the first week of September.
    
    JF and G�nter: I wasn't the Spaniard who tried to commit suicied in his
    honeymoon, though perhaps Nuria, my wife, tried to cut the safety cord
    during my parasailing flight... *-)
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
18.2TROFEO IB�RICOMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumWed Aug 14 1991 16:308
    Atl�tico de Madrid won the Trofeo Ib�rico after:
    
    Benfica 1-1 Atl�tico
    Atl�tico 3-2 Benfica (Benfica was 0-2 up)
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
18.3No, not Benfica!!!?CSCMA::ALMEIDAThu Aug 15 1991 18:409
    	Juanjo,
    
    	any comments on the "glorioso" losing its match to Senor Gil's
    	boys after leading by two?
    
    	Just curious of what happen...or did Futre dribbles had Benfica's
    	defense dizzy?
    
    	tony
18.4A GOOD MATCHMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Aug 16 1991 09:4613
    Reply to -1
    
    After 0-2 for the "Glorioso", Atl�tico started to take it more
    seriously, and got their first goal (possible off-side) at the
    beginning of the second half (by Losada, ex-Real Madrid striker).
    Benfica started to play defensively, and Atl�tico got the equaliser at
    83' (an incredible goal by Bernd Schuster, who could easily score as he
    was absolutely alone - the goalie Neno who knows where he was - but
    waited for a defence to dribble in the Maradonian way at a distance of 
    3 meters from the goal line and scored) and 90' (Losada again in a
    perfect header).
    
    JUANJO
18.5TROFEO "TERESA HERRERA"MDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Aug 16 1991 09:506
    Trofeo "Teresa Herrera"
    
    Real Madrid	 1-2  Porto 
    		      
    
    Porto to play the final against Ajax or Deportivo de La Coru�a.
18.64 FOREIGNERS THOUGH 3 ON THE FIELDMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Aug 16 1991 09:529
    Somebody commented about four foreign players allowed in Spanish League
    in the former football notesfile.
    
    That's true: four foreigner are allowed but only three are allowed to
    be on the pitch at the same time.
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
18.7IV�N ZAMORANOMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Aug 16 1991 12:317
    In the former notesfiles somebody said that Iv�n Zamorano played for a
    Swiss team. It's not true, as last season he played for Sevilla and so
    does he for the next one.
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
18.8Aupa con los colchoneros...DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaFri Aug 16 1991 17:1912
    
    The league starts in two weeks time, perhaps it is not the right time
    to make any predicctions, however I am going to venture one, top
    contenders must be Barcelona, A Madrid, R Madrid, teams to watch out
    Albacete and Tenerife.
    
    Congratulaciones una vez m�s mi querido amigo y mucha prosperidad tanto
    para ti como para tu bella esposa.
    
    salud 
    Juan
    
18.9SOME FRIENDLIES RESULTSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Aug 19 1991 10:3231
    Gracias, Juan.
    
    Here come the results of some friendly trophies:
    
    Trofeo "Teresa Herrera"
    
    	Real Madrid 1-2 Porto
    	Coru�a 1-0 Ajax
    
    	Ajax 2-0 Real Madrid
    	Porto 1-0 Coru�a
    
    	Champion: Porto
    
    
    
    Trofeo "Colombino"
    
    	Atl�tico de Madrid 2-1 Spartak Moscow
    	Sevilla 2-1 Huelva
    
    Final:	Atl�tico 1-0 Sevilla
    
    Champion: Atl�tico de Madrid
    
    Trofeo "Ciudad de Tenerife"
    
    Newells Old Boys 2-0 Atl�tico de Madrid
    Tenerife 4-1 Atl�tico de Madrid
    
    Champion: Tenerife
18.10SPANISH LEAGUE: 1st WEEKMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:1639
These are the results from week 1 of the league in SPAIN

Athl�tic de Bilbao       0-2    Sevilla CF               
Real Valladolid          0-1    Sp�rting de Gij�n        
Real C�diz               0-1    Real Madrid              
CD Tenerife              3-0    CD Logro��s              
Valencia CF              2-1    RCD La Coru�a            
Atl�tico Osasuna         2-0    CD Albacete              
Atl�tico de Madrid       2-0    Real Burgos              
Real Oviedo              0-0    Real Mallorca            
Real Zaragoza            1-1    RCD Espa�ol              
FC Barcelona             2-0    Real Sociedad            



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 1 round of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   PA
CD Tenerife                1    1    0    0    3    0    2    0
Sevilla CF                 1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0
Atl�tico Osasuna           1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0
Atl�tico de Madrid         1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0
FC Barcelona               1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0
Valencia CF                1    1    0    0    2    1    2    0
Sp�rting de Gij�n          1    1    0    0    1    0    2    0
Real Madrid                1    1    0    0    1    0    2    0
Real Zaragoza              1    0    1    0    1    1    1    1
RCD Espa�ol                1    0    1    0    1    1    1    1
Real Oviedo                1    0    1    0    0    0    1    1
Real Mallorca              1    0    1    0    0    0    1    1
RCD La Coru�a              1    0    0    1    1    2    0    2
Real Valladolid            1    0    0    1    0    1    0    2
Real C�diz                 1    0    0    1    0    1    0    2
Athl�tic de Bilbao         1    0    0    1    0    2    0    2
CD Albacete                1    0    0    1    0    2    0    2
Real Burgos                1    0    0    1    0    2    0    2
Real Sociedad              1    0    0    1    0    2    0    2
CD Logro��s                1    0    0    1    0    3    0    2
18.11SPANISH LEAGUE: 2nd WEEKMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:1739
These are the results from week 2 of the league in SPAIN

Sevilla CF               4-2    FC Barcelona             
Sp�rting de Gij�n        3-2    Athl�tic de Bilbao       
Real Madrid              1-0    Real Valladolid          
CD Logro��s              2-1    Real C�diz               
RCD La Coru�a            1-1    CD Tenerife              
CD Albacete              1-0    Valencia CF              
Real Burgos              4-0    Atl�tico Osasuna         
Real Mallorca            0-2    Atl�tico de Madrid       
RCD Espa�ol              0-1    Real Oviedo              
Real Sociedad            0-0    Real Zaragoza            



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 2 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Atl�tico de Madrid         2    2    0    0    4    0    4    
Sevilla CF                 2    2    0    0    6    2    4    
Sp�rting de Gij�n          2    2    0    0    4    2    4    
Real Madrid                2    2    0    0    2    0    4    
CD Tenerife                2    1    1    0    4    1    3    
Real Oviedo                2    1    1    0    1    0    3    
Real Burgos                2    1    0    1    4    2    2    
FC Barcelona               2    1    0    1    4    4    2    
Valencia CF                2    1    0    1    2    2    2    
Real Zaragoza              2    0    2    0    1    1    2    
CD Albacete                2    1    0    1    1    2    2    
CD Logro��s                2    1    0    1    2    4    2    
Atl�tico Osasuna           2    1    0    1    2    4    2    
RCD La Coru�a              2    0    1    1    2    3    1    
RCD Espa�ol                2    0    1    1    1    2    1    
Real Mallorca              2    0    1    1    0    2    1    
Real Sociedad              2    0    1    1    0    2    1    
Real C�diz                 2    0    0    2    1    3    0    
Real Valladolid            2    0    0    2    0    2    0    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         2    0    0    2    2    5    0    
    
18.12TOP SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:1842
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

2 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

1 goal		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Loren		Real Burgos
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol
    
18.13SPANISH GOALIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:1829
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    0	       2	  0   	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid
    0	       2	  0 	  Buyo		Real Madrid
    0	       2	  0 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos
    0	       2	  0 	  Viti		Real Oviedo
    1	       2	  0,5 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    1	       2	  0,5 	  Manolo	CD Tenerife
    2	       2	  1 	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol
    2	       2	  1 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    2	       2	  1 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n
    2	       2	  1 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca
    2	       2	  1 	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad
    2	       2	  1 	  Higuita	Real Valladolid
    2	       2	  1 	  Sempere	Valencia CF
    2	       2	  1 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF
    2	       1	  2 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    3	       2	  1,5 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a
    3	       2	  1,5 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz
    4	       2	  2 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s
    4	       2	  2 	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna
    4	       2	  2 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona
    5	       2	  2,5 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao
    
18.14M�CHEL AND VALDERRAMAMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:2416
    Last week there was an incident in Real Madrid-Real Valladolid, which
    you may have watched as TV cables are showing at all times.
    
    In a corner against Real, Valderrama was trying to get a good position,
    and M�chel was marking him, all of a sudden M�chel touched Valderrama's
    very private parts. Well, everybody considered it incidental, but again
    M�chel clearly touched them again for 5 times and great ability... A
    Telemadrid camera was there and snapped it.
    
    Have you seen it? Any comments?
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
    
    
18.15TWO TROPHIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 12 1991 11:2713
    Villa de Madrid Trophy:
    
    	Atl�tico de Madrid  1	Rodax   (35')
    	AC Milan	    1   Massaro (18')
    
    Winner: AC Milan on penalties 12-11
    
    
    Canal + Trophy:
    
    	Barcelona   1  Nadal (65')
        Real Madrid 1  Aldana (80')
    
18.16SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 16 1991 10:2440
These are the results from week 3 of the league in SPAIN

Athl�tic de Bilbao       1-4    Real Madrid              
Sevilla CF               2-1    Sp�rting de Gij�n        
Real Valladolid          1-2    CD Logro��s              
Real C�diz               1-0    RCD La Coru�a            
CD Tenerife              2-3    CD Albacete              
Valencia CF              1-1    Real Burgos              
Atl�tico Osasuna         1-0    Real Mallorca            
Atl�tico de Madrid       3-0    RCD Espa�ol              
Real Oviedo              2-0    Real Sociedad            
FC Barcelona             3-1    Real Zaragoza            



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 3 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Atl�tico de Madrid         3    3    0    0    7    0    6    
Sevilla CF                 3    3    0    0    8    3    6    
Real Madrid                3    3    0    0    6    1    6    
Real Oviedo                3    2    1    0    3    0    5    
FC Barcelona               3    2    0    1    7    5    4    
Sp�rting de Gij�n          3    2    0    1    5    4    4    
CD Albacete                3    2    0    1    4    4    4    
CD Logro��s                3    2    0    1    4    5    4    
Atl�tico Osasuna           3    2    0    1    3    4    4    
CD Tenerife                3    1    1    1    6    4    3    
Real Burgos                3    1    1    1    5    3    3    
Valencia CF                3    1    1    1    3    3    3    
Real C�diz                 3    1    0    2    2    3    2    
Real Zaragoza              3    0    2    1    2    4    2    
RCD La Coru�a              3    0    1    2    2    4    1    
Real Mallorca              3    0    1    2    0    3    1    
RCD Espa�ol                3    0    1    2    1    5    1    
Real Sociedad              3    0    1    2    0    4    1    
Real Valladolid            3    0    0    3    1    4    0    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         3    0    0    3    3    9    0    
    
18.17SPANISH GOALIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 16 1991 10:2429
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    0	       3	  0   	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid
    0	       3	  0 	  Viti		Real Oviedo
    1	       3	  0,3 	  Buyo		Real Madrid
    1	       3	  0,3 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos
    3	       3	  1 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca
    3	       3	  1 	  Sempere	Valencia CF
    3	       3	  1 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz
    3	       3	  1 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Higuita	Real Valladolid
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Manolo	CD Tenerife
    4	       3	  1,3 	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna
    5	       3	  1,6 	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol
    5	       3	  1,6 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s
    5	       3	  1,6 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona
    9	       3	  3 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao
    2	       1	  2 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    
18.18TOP SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 16 1991 10:2558
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao

2 goals		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Butrague�o	Real Madrid
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

1 goal		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Bakero		FC Barcelona
		Bango		Real Oviedo
		Beguirist�in	FC Barcelona
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Cholo		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Dertycia	CD Tenerife
		Diego		Sevilla CF
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		Hagi		Real Madrid
		Hierro		Real Madrid
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Loren		Real Burgos
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Penev		Valencia CF
		Quevedo		Real C�diz
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Roberto		Real Valladolid
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salazar		CD Albacete
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol
    
18.19the mighty CarlosYUPPY::NASSIMTue Sep 17 1991 01:337
    How is Valderamma doing at his new club?
    
    I saw him play for them pre season at Leyton Orient, in what seemed a
    reserve side, and he was absolutely brilliant, every pass was perfect,
    and he held the ball up really well.
    
                                               
18.20VALDERRAMAMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumTue Sep 17 1991 10:3612
    REPLY TO -1
    
    It is too soon to assess Valderrama's performance in this League. His
    team is at the bottom of the table (Higuita has "presented" 3 important
    goals). 
    
    The most noticeable issue about Valderrama is the "incident" with
    M�chel I commented in a previous note.
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
18.21Public parts nowULYSSE::CHAMPOLLIONMiracle in RennesTue Sep 17 1991 13:269
    RE .14
    
    When I was in Spain last week I bought Marca several times and that
    Sports rags had long stories about Michel not being a man and hiding
    from play in important games. Maybe he wanted to impress people that he
    still knew where the "jewels" were.
    
    Hum
    �JF?
18.22M�CHEL, M�CHEL, M�CHEL...MDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumTue Sep 17 1991 15:0910
    RE. -1
    
    M�chel received a lot of abuse, including banners, in Bilbao last week
    regarding his "attitude" with Valderrama. He will have to purge his
    "sin" all the season long, I suppose.
    
    M�chel hiding from play in important games: this is a topic on M�chel
    and other Real Madrid players regarding their side and national team.
    
    
18.23Tenrife 8 Albacete 12???....DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaTue Sep 17 1991 17:4415
    
    There is one thing, that must be said Valderrama and the other players
    should start hiding since, M�chel will be after them, however all of
    this has nothing whatsoever to do with football.
    	In any case the team which will be the revelation this year was
    sort of decided at Tenerife's ground last Sunday, with the help of the
    referee, when he sent off THREE TENERIFE players in the incident
    involving the penalty when Etcheverry pulled the ball with his hand
    before he was pushed down in the penalty area.
    	Despite this dramatic event (never  ocurred before in the modern
    days football), Tenerife must recharge batteries and re-established
    themselves as big contenders for the title this side of xmas..
    
    salud
    Juan
18.24�MANOS ARRIBA; ESTO ES UN ATRACO!MDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumTue Sep 17 1991 18:458
    Juan:
    
    Hierro, Torrecilla and To�o were sent off after the incident, but
    afterwards Dertycia was sent off too, so Tenerife finished with 7
    players.
    
    By the way, Echeverri touched the ball with the hand, and was
    theatrical when entering the area. It was an absolute robbery.
18.25 Referees should learn to play ball....DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaThu Sep 26 1991 10:599
    
    Caetano should be suspended, he disgraced the profession, this day and
    age when high standards are required, and the enphasis is to prevent
    crowds of opposite teams fighting, and the game we learn to love is got
    to be disrupted, by same obscure reason by the person who is supposed
    to control, however one must learn to respect the rules of the game and 
    accept the concequences, although the matter is not finnished yet.
    salud 
    juan
18.27M�CHEL and VINNY JONESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Sep 26 1991 18:017
    Absolutely in earnest, M�chel and Gordillo disguised as brides in the 
    banquet after Butrague�o's wedding...
    
    I saw the photo picturing Vinny Jones and Gazza, and Vinny Jones looked
    more aggresive than M�chel did with Valderrama. *-)
    
    JUANJO
18.28SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 30 1991 10:0239
These are the results from week 4 of the league in SPAIN

Sp�rting de Gij�n        2-1    FC Barcelona             
Real Madrid              3-1    Sevilla CF               
CD Logro��s              0-1    Athl�tic de Bilbao       
RCD La Coru�a            1-0    Real Valladolid          
CD Albacete              0-1    Real C�diz               
Real Burgos              3-1    CD Tenerife              
Real Mallorca            0-1    Valencia CF              
Real Zaragoza            3-2    Real Oviedo              
RCD Espa�ol              3-2    Atl�tico Osasuna         
Real Sociedad            0-2    Atl�tico de Madrid       



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 4 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Atl�tico de Madrid         4    4    0    0    9    0    8    
Real Madrid                4    4    0    0    9    2    8    
Sevilla CF                 4    3    0    1    9    6    6    
Sp�rting de Gij�n          4    3    0    1    7    5    6    
Real Burgos                4    2    1    1    8    4    5    
Real Oviedo                4    2    1    1    5    3    5    
Valencia CF                4    2    1    1    4    3    5    
FC Barcelona               4    2    0    2    8    7    4    
Real C�diz                 4    2    0    2    3    3    4    
Real Zaragoza              4    1    2    1    5    6    4    
CD Albacete                4    2    0    2    4    5    4    
Atl�tico Osasuna           4    2    0    2    5    7    4    
CD Logro��s                4    2    0    2    4    6    4    
CD Tenerife                4    1    1    2    7    7    3    
RCD La Coru�a              4    1    1    2    3    4    3    
RCD Espa�ol                4    1    1    2    4    7    3    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         4    1    0    3    4    9    2    
Real Mallorca              4    0    1    3    0    4    1    
Real Sociedad              4    0    1    3    0    6    1    
Real Valladolid            4    0    0    4    1    5    0    
    
18.29SPANISH SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 30 1991 10:0274
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

4 goals		Butrague�o	Real Madrid
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna

2 goals		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Hierro		Real Madrid
		Pardeza		Real Zaragoza
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

1 goal		Abelardo	Real Sp�rting
		Aguil�		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Ay�car		Real Burgos
		Bakero		FC Barcelona
		Bango		Real Oviedo
		Beguirist�in	FC Barcelona
		Berto		Real Oviedo
		Ciganda		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Cuxart		RCD Espa�ol
		Cholo		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Dertycia	CD Tenerife
		Diego		Sevilla CF
		Fernando	Valencia CF
		Francisco	RCD Espa�ol
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		Hagi		Real Madrid
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Juric		Real Burgos
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Laudrup		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Loren		Real Burgos
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Narciso		Real Burgos
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Penev		Valencia CF
		Poyet		Real Zaragoza
		Quevedo		Real C�diz
		Rivas		Real Oviedo
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Roberto		Real Valladolid
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salazar		CD Albacete
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Uralde		RCD La Coru�a
    
18.30SPANISH GOALIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Sep 30 1991 10:0237
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    0	       4	  0   	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid

    2	       4	  0,50 	  Buyo		Real Madrid
    2	       4	  0,50 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos

    3	       4	  0,75 	  Sempere	Valencia CF
    3	       4	  0,75 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz
    3	       4	  0,75 	  Viti		Real Oviedo

    4	       4	  1 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca
    4	       4	  1 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a

    5	       4	  1,25 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    5	       4	  1,25 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n
    5	       4	  1,25	  Higuita	Real Valladolid

    6	       4	  1,50 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    6	       4	  1,50 	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad
    6	       4	  1,50 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s
    6	       4	  1,50 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF

    7	       4	  1,75	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol
    7	       4	  1,75	  Manolo	CD Tenerife
    7	       4	  1,75	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna
    7	       4	  1,75 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona

    9	       4	  2,25 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao

    2	       1	  2 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    
18.31SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 07 1991 15:5740
These are the results from week 5 of the league in SPAIN

Athl�tic de Bilbao       0-0    RCD La Coru�a            
Sevilla CF               0-1    CD Logro��s              
Real Valladolid          1-0    CD Albacete              
Sp�rting de Gij�n        1-4    Real Madrid              
Real C�diz               0-2    Real Burgos              
CD Tenerife              0-1    Real Mallorca            
Valencia CF              1-0    RCD Espa�ol              
Atl�tico Osasuna         1-0    Real Sociedad            
Atl�tico de Madrid       2-1    Real Zaragoza            
FC Barcelona             1-2    Real Oviedo              



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 5 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Real Madrid                5    5    0    0    13   3    10   
Atl�tico de Madrid         5    5    0    0    11   1    10   
Real Burgos                5    3    1    1    10   4    7    
Real Oviedo                5    3    1    1    7    4    7    
Valencia CF                5    3    1    1    5    3    7    
Sevilla CF                 5    3    0    2    9    7    6    
Sp�rting de Gij�n          5    3    0    2    8    9    6    
Atl�tico Osasuna           5    3    0    2    6    7    6    
CD Logro��s                5    3    0    2    5    6    6    
FC Barcelona               5    2    0    3    9    9    4    
RCD La Coru�a              5    1    2    2    3    4    4    
Real Zaragoza              5    1    2    2    6    8    4    
CD Albacete                5    2    0    3    4    6    4    
Real C�diz                 5    2    0    3    3    5    4    
CD Tenerife                5    1    1    3    7    8    3    
Real Mallorca              5    1    1    3    1    4    3    
RCD Espa�ol                5    1    1    3    4    8    3    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         5    1    1    3    4    9    3    
Real Valladolid            5    1    0    4    2    5    2    
Real Sociedad              5    0    1    4    0    7    1    
    
18.32SPANISH SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 07 1991 15:5782
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

6 goals		Butrague�o	Real Madrid

4 goals		Monchu		Real Sp�rting

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Hierro		Real Madrid
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna

2 goals		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Fernando	Valencia CF
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		Loren		Real Burgos
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Narciso		Real Burgos
		Pardeza		Real Zaragoza
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

1 goal		Abelardo	Real Sp�rting
		Aguil�		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Ay�car		Real Burgos
		Bakero		FC Barcelona
		Bango		Real Oviedo
		Beguirist�in	FC Barcelona
		Berto		Real Oviedo
		Ciganda		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Cuxart		RCD Espa�ol
		Cholo		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Dertycia	CD Tenerife
		Diego		Sevilla CF
		Francisco	RCD Espa�ol
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		Hagi		Real Madrid
		Hassan Nadir	Real Mallorca
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Juric		Real Burgos
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Larrainzar II	Atl�tico Osasuna
		Laudrup		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Losada		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Penev		Valencia CF
		Pereira		Real Valladolid
		Poyet		Real Zaragoza
		Quevedo		Real C�diz
		Rivas		Real Oviedo
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Roberto		Real Valladolid
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salazar		CD Albacete
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Salinas		FC Barcelona
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Soler		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Uralde		RCD La Coru�a
		Vi�als		Real Oviedo
    
18.33SPANISH SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 07 1991 15:5838
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    1	       5	  0,20 	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid

    2	       5	  0,40 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos

    3	       5	  0,60 	  Buyo		Real Madrid
    3	       5	  0,60 	  Sempere	Valencia CF

    4	       5	  0,80 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca
    4	       5	  0,80 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a
    4	       5	  0,80 	  Viti		Real Oviedo

    5	       5	  1	  Higuita	Real Valladolid
    5	       5	  1 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz

    6	       5	  1,20 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    6	       5	  1,20 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s

    7	       5	  1,40 	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad
    7	       5	  1,40	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna
    7	       5	  1,40 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF

    8	       5	  1,60	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol
    8	       5	  1,60 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    8	       5	  1,60	  Manolo	CD Tenerife

    9	       5	  1,80 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n
    9	       5	  1,80 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao
    9	       5	  1,80 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona

    2	       1	  2 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    
18.34Real Sociedad feeling Aldo loss.ESSB::MCUNNIFFEMancs won't win the LeagueMon Oct 07 1991 19:487
    
    Anybody notice who is bottom of the Spanish 1st division and why. Yes,
    it's Real Sociedad and the reason is the loss of Aldo in particular and
    to a much lesser extent Atkinson and Richardson. Anybody got any
    comments?
    
      Cunno.
18.35Also rans.....RTOEU::RDELANEYAperralunis.....Tue Oct 08 1991 10:364
    Looks like they're going to end up in the 2nd division...... just like
    Aldo.
    
    	- d�d�
18.36REAL SOCIEDADMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumTue Oct 08 1991 12:467
    The problem with Real Sociedad is that they sold too many players, and
    of course they miss both Aldo and Atkinson, but J.B. Toshack was the
    responsible for their leave.
    
    Saludos
    
    JUANJO
18.37Big boys, small toys.YUPPY::NASSIMThu Oct 17 1991 21:543
    Can anyone tell me, which Spanish (and Italian) sides have 'nursery
    teams' in the lower divisions and who they are?  Some information would
    be much appreciated.
18.38SPANISH NURSERY TEAMSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Oct 18 1991 12:4216
    Yes, nearly all the Spanish teams have nursery teams. I will write a
    list of the most famous here in Spain to you:
    
    1st Division Team	Nursery Team
    -----------------   ------------
    Real Madrid		Real Madrid Deportivo (2A Division)
    Barcelona		Barcelona Atl�tico (2A Division)
    Atl�tico de Madrid	Atl�tico de Madrid (or Atl�tico Madrile�o) (2B Div.)
    Athl�tic de Bilbao	Bilbao Athl�tic (2A)
    Atl�tico Osasuna	Osanuna Promesas (2B)
    Real Sociedad	San Sebasti�n (2B)
    Sp�rting Gij�n	Gij�n Atl�tico (2B)
    Valencia		Mestalla (2B)
    
    etc.
    
18.39CASEE::CIOTFri Oct 18 1991 12:556
    Interesting to see that clubs have their nursery team in second
    division.What is happening if they finish first ?
    
    I bet they are not promoted in first division !!!
    
    Thierry
18.40CRISPY::NAGLEJFri Oct 18 1991 13:2210
    
    My understanding is that the Nursery team cannot be promoted
    into the top division while the 1st/senior team is there.
    
    Likewise if the 1st/senior team are relegated then the 2nd
    team go down from their division. Quite what happens if the
    1st team go down and the 2nd team win theior division I don't
    know.
    
    JN.
18.41FORTY2::ETHERIDGEAlright! I'll get the lard!Fri Oct 18 1991 14:194
	Meeting in the cups must be possible. Has this happened recently?
	Any shocks?

	Fridge.
18.42RTOIC::GGAUGLERFri Oct 18 1991 14:347
    
    The nursery team of Real Zaragoza is called Arag�n.
    
    Juanjo, Real Madrid Deportivo is that the same as Castilla? I suppose
    it is also called like that.
    
    G�nter
18.43NURSERY TEAMSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumFri Oct 18 1991 15:2922
    HI AGAIN!
    
    Yes, Real Madrid Deportivo was formerly Castilla.
    
    Now, 7 years ago Bilbao Athl�tic won the 2nd Division League and
    obviously they couldn't promote to the 1st one. As all of you have said
    in he previous notes, it is not possible the coexistence in the same
    division of the first and nursery teams. 
    
    But, in the Cup there are a type of mechanism to avoid clash in the
    first round, but if they reach the �finals, they could be played
    against each other.
    
    About 10 years, Castilla managed to reach the Cup final, and had to
    play against Real Madrid. Real won 6-1, and Castilla played the
    European competition, as Real got the double. By the way, Castilla
    played West Ham United. Do you remember?
    
    Regards
    
    JUANJO
    
18.44SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 21 1991 15:3840
These are the results from week 6 of the league in SPAIN

Real Madrid              1-1    FC Barcelona             
CD Logro��s              0-0    Sp�rting de Gij�n        
RCD La Coru�a            3-1    Sevilla CF               
CD Albacete              4-0    Athl�tic de Bilbao       
Real Burgos              1-0    Real Valladolid          
Real Oviedo              0-1    Atl�tico de Madrid       
Real Mallorca            1-0    Real C�diz               
Real Zaragoza            2-0    Atl�tico Osasuna         
RCD Espa�ol              2-2    CD Tenerife              
Real Sociedad            3-1    Valencia CF              



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 6 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Atl�tico de Madrid         6    6    0    0    12   1    12   
Real Madrid                6    5    1    0    14   4    11   
Real Burgos                6    4    1    1    11   4    9    
Real Oviedo                6    3    1    2    7    5    7    
Valencia CF                6    3    1    2    6    6    7    
Sp�rting de Gij�n          6    3    1    2    8    9    7    
CD Logro��s                6    3    1    2    5    6    7    
CD Albacete                6    3    0    3    8    6    6    
RCD La Coru�a              6    2    2    2    6    5    6    
Sevilla CF                 6    3    0    3    10   10   6    
Real Zaragoza              6    2    2    2    8    8    6    
Atl�tico Osasuna           6    3    0    3    6    9    6    
FC Barcelona               6    2    1    3    10   10   5    
Real Mallorca              6    2    1    3    2    4    5    
CD Tenerife                6    1    2    3    9    10   4    
Real C�diz                 6    2    0    4    3    6    4    
RCD Espa�ol                6    1    2    3    6    10   4    
Real Sociedad              6    1    1    4    3    8    3    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         6    1    1    4    4    13   3    
Real Valladolid            6    1    0    5    2    6    2    
    
18.45SPANISH SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 21 1991 15:3899
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

6 goals		Butrague�o	Real Madrid

4 goals		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Hierro		Real Madrid
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid

2 goals		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Cuxart		RCD Espa�ol
		Echeverri	CD Albacete
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Fernando	Valencia CF
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		Loren		Real Burgos
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Narciso		Real Burgos
		Pardeza		Real Zaragoza
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Uralde		RCD La Coru�a
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

1 goal		Abelardo	Real Sp�rting
		Aguil�		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Alejandro	Real Burgos
		Alkiza		Real Sociedad
		Ay�car		Real Burgos
		Bakero		FC Barcelona
		Bango		Real Oviedo
		Beguirist�in	FC Barcelona
		Berto		Real Oviedo
		Ciganda		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Cholo		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Dertycia	CD Tenerife
		Diego		Sevilla CF
		Escaich		RCD Espa�ol
		Fran		RCD Espa�ol
		Francisco	RCD Espa�ol
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		Hagi		Real Madrid
		Hassan Nadir	Real Mallorca
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Juric		Real Burgos
		Larrainzar II	Atl�tico Osasuna
		Laudrup		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Losada		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Luis P�rez	Real Sociedad
		Llorente	CD Tenerife
		Mateut		Real Zaragoza
		Oc�ano		Real Sociedad
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Penev		Valencia CF
		Pereira		Real Valladolid
		Poyet		Real Zaragoza
		Prosinecki	Real Madrid
		Quevedo		Real C�diz
		Ram�n		Sevilla CF
		Redondo		CD Tenerife
		Rivas		Real Oviedo
		Roberto		Real Valladolid
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salazar		CD Albacete
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Salinas		FC Barcelona
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Soler		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Vi�als		Real Oviedo

Own goals
---------

Oliva (Real C�diz), Tabuenca (Athl�tic de Bilbao)
    
18.46SPANISH GOALIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 21 1991 15:3943
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    1	       6	  0.16 	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid

    2	       6	  0.33 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos

    4	       6	  0.66 	  Buyo		Real Madrid

    5	       6	  0.83 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a
    5	       6	  0.83 	  Viti		Real Oviedo

    6	       6	  1.00 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    6	       6	  1.00	  Higuita	Real Valladolid
    6	       6	  1.00 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s
    6	       6	  1.00 	  Sempere	Valencia CF
    6	       6	  1.00 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz

    8	       6	  1.33 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    8	       6	  1.33	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad

    9	       6	  1.50 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n

   10	       6	  1.66	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol
   10	       6	  1.66	  Manolo	CD Tenerife
   10 	       6	  1.66 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF
   10	       6	  1.66 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona

   13	       6	  2.16 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao

    4	       5	  0.80 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca

    7	       5	  1.40	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna

    0	       1          0    	  Molondr�n	Real Mallorca

    2	       1	  2.00 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    2	       1	  2.00	  Unanua	Atl�tico Osasuna
    
18.47Venga Atl�tico!RTOIC::GGAUGLERWed Oct 23 1991 15:3211
    
    �Mucha suerte, Juanjo!
    
    hope you win tonight and have a nice time.
    Vicente Calder�n surely will be packed and will have a great
    atmosphere.
    Enjoy your bocata though there won't be tinto (because of UEFA rules I
    think).
    
    Best wishes
    G�nter
18.48CON LA BOTA DE VINOMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumWed Oct 23 1991 18:206
    �Gracias, G�nter!
    
    If I can manage to get a "bota" (do you know it?) with a bit of wine,
    it could be easier...
    
    
18.49Great result!RTOIC::GGAUGLERThu Oct 24 1991 08:5812
    
    �Felicidades, Juanjo!
    
    Great result yesterday! Yes, I know "bota" and we used to have one with
    us in Spain. I still have one here in Germany and take it with me when
    going to the mountains. For football it's unfortunately not the habit
    over here to use it. Yeah, would be great fun to take it to a match and
    watch people trying to use it!
    Looking forward to your report.
    
    hasta luego,  
    G�nter
18.50CONSEGU� UNA BOTA, G�NTERMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumThu Oct 24 1991 10:104
    At noon more or less you'll have my report. I have to attend a meeting
    just now.
    
    JUANJO
18.51SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 28 1991 12:2040
These are the results from week 7 of the league in SPAIN

Athl�tic de Bilbao       0-0    Real Burgos              
Sevilla CF               3-0    CD Albacete              
Real Valladolid          2-1    Real Mallorca            
Sp�rting de Gij�n        1-0    RCD La Coru�a            
Real C�diz               2-1    RCD Espa�ol              
Real Madrid              3-0    CD Logro��s              
CD Tenerife              0-0    Real Sociedad            
Valencia CF              0-1    Real Zaragoza            
Atl�tico Osasuna         1-0    Real Oviedo
FC Barcelona             1-0    Atl�tico de Madrid       



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 7 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Real Madrid                7    6    1    0    17   4    13   
Atl�tico de Madrid         7    6    0    1    12   2    12   
Real Burgos                7    4    2    1    11   4    10   
Sp�rting de Gij�n          7    4    1    2    9    9    9    
Sevilla CF                 7    4    0    3    13   10   8    
Real Zaragoza              7    3    2    2    9    8    8    
Atl�tico Osasuna           7    4    0    3    7    9    8    
FC Barcelona               7    3    1    3    11   10   7    
Real Oviedo                7    3    1    3    7    6    7    
Valencia CF                7    3    1    3    6    7    7    
CD Logro��s                7    3    1    3    5    9    7    
RCD La Coru�a              7    2    2    3    6    6    6    
CD Albacete                7    3    0    4    8    9    6    
Real C�diz                 7    3    0    4    5    7    6    
CD Tenerife                7    1    3    3    9    10   5    
Real Mallorca              7    2    1    4    3    6    5    
Real Valladolid            7    2    0    5    4    7    4    
RCD Espa�ol                7    1    2    4    7    12   4    
Real Sociedad              7    1    2    4    3    8    4    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         7    1    2    4    4    13   4    
    
18.52SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 28 1991 12:32105
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

6 goals		Butrague�o	Real Madrid

5 goals		Hierro		Real Madrid

4 goals		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid

2 goals		Bengoechea 	Sevilla CF
		Claudio		RCD La Coru�a
		Conte		Sevilla CF
		Cuxart		RCD Espa�ol
		Echeverri	CD Albacete
		Escaich		RCD Espa�ol
		Eusebio		FC Barcelona
		Fernando	Valencia CF
		Fonseca		Real Valladolid
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		Luhovy		Real Sp�rting
		Loren		Real Burgos
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Narciso		Real Burgos
		Pardeza		Real Zaragoza
		Quevedo		Real C�diz
		Quico		Real C�diz
		Q. Estebaranz	CD Tenerife
		Ram�n		Sevilla CF
		Roberto		Valencia CF
		Uralde		RCD La Coru�a
		Wuttke		RCD Espa�ol

1 goal		Abelardo	Real Sp�rting
		Aguil�		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Alc�zar		Sp�rting de Gij�n
		Aldana		Real Madrid
		Alejandro	Real Burgos
		Alkiza		Real Sociedad
		Ay�car		Real Burgos
		Bakero		FC Barcelona
		Bango		Real Oviedo
		Beguirist�in	FC Barcelona
		Berto		Real Oviedo
		Ciganda		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Cortijo		Sevilla CF 	
		Cholo		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Dertycia	CD Tenerife
		Diego		Sevilla CF
		Fran		RCD Espa�ol
		Francisco	RCD Espa�ol
		Gay		Real Zaragoza
		Hagi		Real Madrid
		Hassan Nadir	Real Mallorca
		J. Aguirre	Real Burgos
		Juric		Real Burgos
		Larrainzar II	Atl�tico Osasuna
		Laudrup		FC Barcelona
		Linde		CD Logro�es
		Losada		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Luis Enrique	Real Madrid
		Luis P�rez	Real Sociedad
		Llorente	CD Tenerife
		Mateut		Real Zaragoza
		M�ndez		Real Mallorca
		Oc�ano		Real Sociedad
		Pablo		Real Sp�rting
		Penev		Valencia CF
		Pereira		Real Valladolid
		Poyet		Real Zaragoza
		Prosinecki	Real Madrid
		Redondo		CD Tenerife
		Rivas		Real Oviedo
		Roberto		Real Valladolid
		Rommel Fern�ndez Valencia
		Sabin Bilbao	RCD La Coru�a
		Salazar		CD Albacete
		Salguero	Sevilla
		Salinas		FC Barcelona
		Salva		Real Zaragoza
		Schuster	Atl�tico de Madrid
		Soler		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Vi�als		Real Oviedo

Own goals
---------

Oliva (Real C�diz), Larraz�bal (Athl�tic de Bilbao)
    
18.53SPANISH GOALIESMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Oct 28 1991 12:3244
TOP GOALIES IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

CONCEDED    PLAYED
 GOALS      MATCHES	AVERAGE	  GOALIE	TEAM	
--------    -------	-------	  ------	----

    2	       7	  0.33 	  Abel		Atl�tico de Madrid
    2	       7	  0.33 	  Elduayen	Real Burgos

    4	       7	  0.57 	  Buyo		Real Madrid

    6	       7	  0.85 	  Lia�o		RCD La Coru�a
    6	       7	  0.85 	  Viti		Real Oviedo

    7	       7	  1.00    Higuita	Real Valladolid
    7	       7	  1.00 	  Sempere	Valencia CF
    7	       7	  1.00 	  Szendrei	Real C�diz

    8	       7	  1.14 	  Cedr�n	Real Zaragoza
    8	       7	  1.14	  Gonz�lez	Real Sociedad

    9	       7	  1.28 	  Conejo	CD Albacete
    9	       7	  1.28 	  Lopetegui	CD Logro��s
    9	       7	  1.28 	  Emilio	Real Sp�rting de Gij�n

   10	       7	  1.42	  Manolo	CD Tenerife
   10 	       7	  1.42 	  Unz�e		Sevilla CF
   10	       7	  1.42 	  Zubizarreta	FC Barcelona

   12	       7	  1.71	  Biurr�n	RCD Espa�ol

    7	       6	  1.16	  Roberto	Atl�tico Osasuna

   13	       6	  2.16 	  Quique	Athl�tic de Bilbao

    4	       5	  0.80 	  Ezaki		Real Mallorca

    2	       2          1.00 	  Molondr�	Real Mallorca
  
    0	       1	  0       Iru		Athl�tic de Bilbao
    2	       1	  2.00 	  Bast�n	Real Burgos
    2	       1	  2.00	  Unanua	Atl�tico Osasuna
    
18.54SUPERCOPA ESPA�OLAMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumWed Oct 30 1991 09:095
    SPANISH SUPERCUP
    
    Barcelona 1-1 Atl�tico de Madrid (1-0)
    
    Champion:	FC BARCELONA 
18.55SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Nov 04 1991 09:4939
These are the results from week 8 of the league in SPAIN

CD Logro��s              2-2    FC Barcelona             
RCD La Coru�a            0-3    Real Madrid              
CD Albacete              0-2    Sp�rting de Gij�n        
Atl�tico de Madrid       1-0    Atl�tico Osasuna         
Real Burgos              1-0    Sevilla CF               
Real Oviedo              2-2    Valencia CF              
Real Mallorca            1-2    Athl�tic de Bilbao       
Real Zaragoza            3-0    CD Tenerife              
RCD Espa�ol              0-2    Real Valladolid          
Real Sociedad            1-0    Real C�diz               



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 8 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Real Madrid                8    7    1    0    20   4    15   
Atl�tico de Madrid         8    7    0    1    13   2    14   
Real Burgos                8    5    2    1    12   4    12   
Sp�rting de Gij�n          8    5    1    2    11   9    11   
Real Zaragoza              8    4    2    2    12   8    10   
Sevilla CF                 8    4    0    4    13   11   8    
FC Barcelona               8    3    2    3    13   12   8    
Real Oviedo                8    3    2    3    9    8    8    
Valencia CF                8    3    2    3    8    9    8    
Atl�tico Osasuna           8    4    0    4    7    10   8    
CD Logro��s                8    3    2    3    7    11   8    
Real Valladolid            8    3    0    5    6    7    6    
CD Albacete                8    3    0    5    8    11   6    
RCD La Coru�a              8    2    2    4    6    9    6    
Real C�diz                 8    3    0    5    5    8    6    
Real Sociedad              8    2    2    4    4    8    6    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         8    2    2    4    6    14   6    
CD Tenerife                8    1    3    4    9    13   5    
Real Mallorca              8    2    1    5    4    8    5    
RCD Espa�ol                8    1    2    5    7    14   4    
18.56SPANISH SCORERSMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Nov 04 1991 09:5030
TOP SCORERS IN SPANISH LEAGUE
=============================

GOALS		PLAYER		TEAM
-----		------		----

7 goals		Butrague�o	Real Madrid

6 goals		Hierro		Real Madrid

4 goals		Corbal�n	CD Albacete
		Manolo		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Monchu		Real Sp�rting
		Urban		Atl�tico Osasuna
		Zamorano   	Sevilla CF

3 goals		Balint		Real Burgos
		Carlos		Real Oviedo
		Felipe		CD Tenerife
		Fonseca		Real Valladolid
		Higuera		Real Zaragoza
		Koeman		FC Barcelona
		M�chel		Real Madrid
		Moya		Atl�tico de Madrid
		Pardeza		Real Zaragoza
		Polster		CD Logro��s
		Stoichkov	FC Barcelona
		Tabuenca	Athl�tic de Bilbao
		Vizca�no	Atl�tico de Madrid

18.57Zaragoza?RTOIC::GGAUGLERTue Nov 05 1991 08:2119
    
    Juanjo,
    
    just to appreciate your service before you are leaving.
    
    Zaragoza seems having recuperated from last season. They are now in the
    peloton of the league and look rather competitive. I think they didn't
    sign any spectacular player. Did they play against weak competition or
    are they really that good?
    
    Muchas gracias por todo y quiz�s nos vemos algun d�a an la bonita
    capital espa�ola.
    
    G�nter
    
    PS. BTW Do you remember Camilo who played for Atl�tico some years ago.
    He is now playing for Albacete and is a friend of my best pal in Spain.
    I missed him at Luis' boda because club officials did not allow him to
    fly.                 
18.58�Mi �ltima contribuci�n en esta conferencia?MDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumTue Nov 05 1991 09:1940
    
>    Zaragoza seems having recuperated from last season. They are now in the
>    peloton of the league and look rather competitive. I think they didn't
>    sign any spectacular player. Did they play against weak competition or
>    are they really that good?
 
    Zaragoza is a different team from the one last season. They have
    maintained the backbone of the last season, and no spectacular new
    players except for the Argentinian Dar�o Franco, who shone in the last
    Copa Am�rica. The young players (from "la cantera ma�a") that started
    playing last season, feel more comfortable at the 1st Division, and
    Pardeza is playing extremely well again. They have had played difficult
    matches: they could draw (2-1) at Vicente Calder�n, and won (0-1) at
    Valencia, so the opposition was strong. Last Sunday I watched them on
    TV against Tenerife, and they played very well. 
    
       
    >Muchas gracias por todo y quiz�s nos vemos algun d�a an la bonita
    >capital espa�ola.
    
    Cuando quieras. Creo que tienes mi direcci�n. Si no es as�, env�ame un
    correo a mi cuenta antes del jueves, y te la har� saber. De todos
    modos, mi mujer seguir� trabajando en DEC y puedes localizarla
    f�cilmente (Nuria Asenjo @SQO). Si vienes a Madrid, cuenta conmigo, por
    favor.
    
    >PS. BTW Do you remember Camilo who played for Atl�tico some years ago.
    >He is now playing for Albacete and is a friend of my best pal in Spain.
    >I missed him at Luis' boda because club officials did not allow him to
    >fly.                 
    
    Yes, I do remember Camilo. He was not allowed to play for Atl�tico, as
    there were some legal problems with Celta de Vigo about property and so
    on, and had to come back to Celta. Afterwards, he went to Pamplona to
    play for Osasuna, where he was two seasons, and did it well, and now is
    playing for Albacete.
    
    Saludos
    
    JUANJO
18.59SPANISH LEAGUEMDRLEG::AREVALILLONosce te ipsumMon Nov 11 1991 10:1747
    I think that I am living my last minutes at DEC, but I have enough time
    to post the results.
    
    Adi�s
    
    JUANJO
    
These are the results from week 9 of the league in SPAIN

Athl�tic de Bilbao       0-2    RCD Espa�ol              
Sevilla CF               2-0    Real Mallorca            
Real Valladolid          2-2    Real Sociedad            
Sp�rting de Gij�n        0-0    Real Burgos              
Real C�diz               0-0    Real Zaragoza            
Real Madrid              2-1    CD Albacete              
CD Tenerife              1-0    Real Oviedo              
CD Logro��s              2-1    RCD La Coru�a            
Valencia CF              2-0    Atl�tico de Madrid       
FC Barcelona             2-0    Atl�tico Osasuna         



This is the League Table from SPAIN after 9 rounds of matches

    Team Name              P    W    D    L    GF   GA   PF   
Real Madrid                9    8    1    0    22   5    17   
Atl�tico de Madrid         9    7    0    2    13   4    14   
Real Burgos                9    5    3    1    12   4    13   
Sp�rting de Gij�n          9    5    2    2    11   9    12   
Real Zaragoza              9    4    3    2    12   8    11   
Sevilla CF                 9    5    0    4    15   11   10   
FC Barcelona               9    4    2    3    15   12   10   
Valencia CF                9    4    2    3    10   9    10   
CD Logro��s                9    4    2    3    9    12   10   
Real Oviedo                9    3    2    4    9    9    8    
Atl�tico Osasuna           9    4    0    5    7    12   8    
Real Valladolid            9    3    1    5    8    9    7    
CD Tenerife                9    2    3    4    10   13   7    
Real C�diz                 9    3    1    5    5    8    7    
Real Sociedad              9    2    3    4    6    10   7    
CD Albacete                9    3    0    6    9    13   6    
RCD La Coru�a              9    2    2    5    7    11   6    
RCD Espa�ol                9    2    2    5    9    14   6    
Athl�tic de Bilbao         9    2    2    5    6    16   6    
Real Mallorca              9    2    1    6    4    10   5    
    
18.60Adios al Amigo...CRISPY::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Nov 11 1991 14:529
    
    Adios is a sad word, when you are going to say it, to a friend like you
    JUANJO, however life as it is must go on.
    	Hasta cualquier momento, cu�date muchacho.
    
    No doubt about it you will be missed.
    Salud 
    Juan-Jos� Villegas-Medrano
    
18.61Different set up...CRISPY::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Nov 18 1991 12:5816
    
    These are the results for week ending 17 Nov 91
    
    	Real sociedad		2	Atl�tico Bilbao		0
    	Albacete		2	Logro��s		0
    	Real Burgos		0	Real Madrid		2
    	Real Mallorca		0	Sporting de Gij�n	1
    	Espa�ol			1	Sevilla			1
    	Real Zaragoza		2	Real Valladolid		0
    	Real Oviedo		2	C�diz			1
    	Atl�tico de Madrid	1	Tenerife FC		0
    	Osasuna			0		Valencia	1
    
    That is all for the moment
    salud
    Juan
18.62Any other Spanish participants??QETOO::CHAVESAlegria de pobre dura poucoMon Nov 25 1991 21:525
    Does anyone in Spain read these notes? If so, it would be nice to
    have the results and standings, now that Juanjo has left.
    
    Gracias,
    JC
18.63Scant information.ASKFOR::HAIGHGeschwindigkeitsbegrenzung? What Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung?Tue Nov 26 1991 10:369
    Real Madrid 2 Teneriffe 0
    Atletico drew 1-1 away from home
    Barcelona won at home
    
    	other than that JC I can't remember. Real have a 4 point lead at
    the top over Atletico and Barca are 5th.
    
    
    		Steve
18.64GraciasQETOO::CHAVESAlegria de pobre dura poucoWed Nov 27 1991 17:313
    Thanks Steve, its more than I had.
    
    JC
18.65I missed the results on the radio....DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Dec 02 1991 13:3918
    
    It is hard to keep up the good standards, however all I can offer you 
    out there in notesland is the following;
    On Saturday Barcelona paid a visit to Albacete, the result betwwen the
    current champion and the newcomer was a 1-1 draw, not bad for Barcelona
    on the away points that may accumulate at the end of the season,
    yesterday's results, the ones I know for certain are:
    	Atl�tico de Madrid 5	Real Valladolid	1, Manolo had a Hat-trick
    and Bernardo the great had two himself, all round good performance for
    Atl�tico, whereas Real Madrid was overwhelming in Barcelona this time
    though the unfortunate hosts were CD Espa�ol, at the end of the first
    half M�chel had score twice within 20 minutes.
    	Unfortunately these are the only results I do know for sure, but
    I promise to provide the rest soon....
    
    Salud 
    Juan
    
18.66No oneBONNET::ZIJLI think I can, I think I can,.....,I didMon Dec 09 1991 14:384
    Is there nobody in Spain anymore following the national league
    overthere???????
    
    Rob
18.68The latest for you all...DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Dec 23 1991 09:1841
    
    To all people out there, this is the latest on the Spanish League:
    Yesterday the 22nd of December was the last session for this year,
    since everybody is to celebrate the holiday season at home with their
    families, so these are the results :
    
    	Burgos		0		Mallorca	0
    	Albacete	3		Espa�ol		2
    	Coru�a		0		Real Sociedad	0
    	Logro�es	0		Zaragoza	2
    	Real Madrid	0		Real Oviedo	0
    	Sevilla		1		Osasuna		0
    	Valladolid	2		Tenerife	2
    	Sporting de Gijon0		Atl�tico de Madrid	1
    	Bilbao		2		Valencia	3
    	Barcelona	4		Cadiz		1
    
    This are some of the outstanding facts, Javier Irurarte demostrated
    quite significantly why he is the best manager in the first division,
    and probably amongst the best in Europe, the former Atl�tico de Madrid
    player, using his limited resources With His Asturian team, prctically
    destroyed Madrid's leading team at the Bernabe� Stadium, helping that
    way to open up again the fight for the title, the other candidate was
    without the services of Shuster and Futre, but stil managed a victory 
    following the consecutive defeats at the hands of Sevilla and Zaragoza
    the penalty imposed onto Atl�tico because of crowd trouble, is one game
    suspension at the Vicente Calder�n which is the home ground for
    Atl�tico which could  mean taht the game between Real Madrid and
    Atl�tico will be played in neutral ground.
    also Yesterday R Iguita the colombian goalie for Valladolid said
    goodbye to Spanish Footbal since, it was a nightmare for him as well as
    for Pacho Maturana the colombian Coach.
    Leading positions are as follows.
    	                P	W	D	L	PTS
    Real Madrid		15	12	3	0	27
    ATl�tico de Madrid	15	10	1	4	21
    Barcelona		15	8	4	3	20
    Zaragoza		15	7	5	3	19
    Burgos		15	6	6	3	18
    Sevilla		15	7	4	4	18
    Valencia		15	8	2	5	18
18.69QETOO::CHAVESBenfica & United will win the doubleTue Jan 07 1992 14:258
    
    Atl�tico Madrid 2:0 Real Madrid
    
    Televised Sunday on Univision. I'm not sure when the game was played.
    
    Atletico looke ready to challenge Real, even without Schuster (sp?).
    
    JC
18.70RESULTSVARESE::BIOTTIMon Jan 13 1992 14:0218
    
    From LA GAZZETTA DELLO SPORT
    
    LOGRONES  ATLETICO M. 1 0
    MAIORCA ESPANOL 1 0
    BURGOS REAL S. 0 1
    ALBACETE SARAGOZZA 1 1
    LA CORUNA  OVIEDO 0 0
    GIJON  VALENCIA 0 3
    SIVIGLIA TENERIFE 4 1
    ATL BILBAO  CADICE 3 1
    BARCA  VALLADOLID 2 1
    R MADRID  OSASUNA 5 2
    
    
    R MADRID 29
    BARCA 24
    
18.71Real Madrid are the Champions the 1st round..DUCK::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Jan 13 1992 15:2528
    
    
    It is wonderful to find out, that some people are still interested in 
    the Spanish League, being away from my desk, I was unable to put all
    the results as they happened, however since some kind soul had already
    put the results on yesterday's fixtures, nevertheless here some of the
    outstanding points:
    Atl�tico de Madrid lost the nerve by going down to a Logro�es side,
    that performed within their capabilities, but Atl�tico played a very
    strange system, with more defenders than forward players, so the bottom
    line is when you want to win the League, you must risk somehow, rather
    than to blame the referees when the game is lost.
    On the other hand, Real Madrid with a magnificent goal scored by Hagi,
    it was an spectacular goal, if I can described it, from the middle of
    the pitch, he got hold of the ball after dribling one Osasuna player,
    then he hit so hard the ball scoring what Pel� couldn't it was a
    deligth for the 85,000 spectators on a very cold night in Madrid the
    Cultural capital of Europe.
    Barcelona on the other hand became the closest challenger to Real
    claims, at only 5 points, but their game was a very poor performance,
    according to their manager Johan Cruyf, because the two colombians that
    are still playing for Valladolid were sent off, after insulting the
    referee.
    So the next week fixtures show the great clash between Valencia and
    Real Madrid.
    Salud 
    Juan
    
18.72We are interestedBONNET::LORDWed Jan 15 1992 18:277
    Of course there are people still interested in the Spanish league.
    If you think that people don't react very much I think it is because
    most of us do not know very much about the Spanish league.
    
    Keep up the good work,
    
    Rob
18.73EC on TV in Spain???BONNET::ZIJLThe one who always loses his SODEXHO cardSat Jan 18 1992 09:3811
    This hasn't got anything to do with the Spanish league but I don't know
    where to put it else.
    I'll be living in Spain during the European Championchips and I was
    wondering wether Spain would broadcast all the matches of the
    championship (especially those of Holland of course). This because
    Spain won't be in Sweden. And if they broadcast the matches, on what
    channel will it be???
    
    Thanks,
    
    Rob
18.74ASKFOR::HAIGHA vision of guerrilla goodness.Mon Jan 20 1992 10:146
    
    	Apparently Real Madrid lost again at the weekend, 2-1 to Valencia.
    Real Madrid were 1-0 up with 3 minutes to go!
    
    
    		Steve
18.75Barcelona/Athletico???BONNET::ZIJLThe one who always loses his SODEXHO cardMon Jan 20 1992 11:564
    What did Barcelona and Athletico Madrid do???
    
    
    Rob
18.76here areVARESE::BIOTTIMon Jan 20 1992 12:024
    
    Barca Espanol 4 3
    Atletico  La Coruna 1 2
    
18.77Real Madrid could loose it at the end..PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Jan 20 1992 13:4570
    
    Therse are the results of yesterdays games, the 19th round of the
    league :
    
    Real Sociedad		1	Mallorca		0
    Zaragoza			1	Burgos			0
    R�al Oviedo			0	Albacete		1
    Atl�tico de Madrid		1	Deportivo Coru�a	2
    Osasuna			3	Logro�es		0
    C�diz			1	Sevilla FC		1
    Valladolid			1	Athletic Bilbao		1
    Valencia			2	Real Madrid		1
    Tenerife			0	Sporting de Gij�n	0
    Barcelona FC		4	Espa�ol			3
    
    
    These are the leading positions:
    
    			P	Pts
    
    Real Madrid		19	28
    Barcelona FC	19	25
    Valencia		19	24
    Zaragoza		19	24
    Atletico de Madrid	19	23
    Sevilla		19	22
    Albacete		19	22
    
    Some of the outstanding features of Yesterday's Matches , Lu�s Aragon�s
    was very unhappy when his style of played was critized; as too defensive
    since he was playing six known defensive players, he responded to that
    challenge by saying .." todays football , does not allowed you to
    play orthodox styles, if you have to attack everybody has to attack,
    the same when you have to defend ", so in his judgement there was
    nothing wrong with the performance of his players, he also added that
    when a so called weak team plays against them, they try harder making
    difficult to follow the squemes you planned ..
    To be fair to Aragon�s, I must add that since the Vicente Calder�n was
    closed for crowd trouble, it meant that, they had to travel to C�ceres
    for this fixture, this was against Aragon�s's  whishes since he chose
    Salamanca, but it was Jes�s Gil again , puting himself above everybody 
    and decided for C�ceres .
    	Elsewhere Real Madrid with THREE minutes to go, on Saturday Night
    they just simple lost concentration and Valencia did not waste the
    chance given to them in such a fashion, however when Madrid lost
    against Atl�tico two weeks ago, they deserved to lose, however against
    Valencia it was alittle bit of bad luck since, at the very begining
    also Butrage�o was injured in a collition with Gery.
    Barcelona had a local derby, with a Espa�ol going through tremendous
    traumas, nevetheless today they were to announced who is going to be
    their manager for thr second part of the season it si none other than 
    Javier Clemente who by the way was a very succesful Esapa�olista
    manager 3 seasons ago, befroe his departure to funny enough Atl�tico de
    Madrid where his fortune was not so good, perhaps the appointment of
    this fellow was enough to give the players a little bit of motivation
    which nearly was transformed in another upset,if we take into account
    that Barcelona had a t one piont of the match a 3 goal difference, to
    end with a 4-3, in Bar�a's favour.
    	Finally Valderrama the colombiam Gullit look alike left Valladolid,
    following the steps of his countryman Higuita, the two other colombians
    still at Valladolid are about to leave at the end of the season.
    
    Now then for whoever, is going to Spain during the summer the
    television channels on which you can watch soccer are TVE2, Canal 5
    CANAL PLUS, and depending which  Regional Autonomy you found yourself
    some progrmas are decoded.
    
    That is all for today
    Salud Juan
     
18.78OleBONNET::ZIJLThe one who always loses his SODEXHO cardMon Jan 27 1992 13:123
    No hay resultados en la competicion esta semana?
    
    Rob
18.79Barcelona is making Madrid sweat...PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Jan 27 1992 15:3156
    
    �le, mi amigo claro que s�, aqu� estan los resultados:
    
    	Espa�ol		2		Real Sociedad	0
    	Real Mallorca	0		Real Zaragoza	1
    	Real Burgos	1		Real Oviedo	0
    	CD Albacete	3		Atl�tico de Madrid	1
    	Deprtivo Coru�a	0		Osasuna 	0
    	Logro�es   	0		Valencia	0
        Gij�n		2		Cadiz		1
    	Sevilla		2		Valladolid	1
    	Athletic Bilbao	0		Barcelona FC	2
    	Real Madrid	2		Tenerife	1
    
    The leading positions after 19 games:
    
    			P	W	D	L	F	A	PTS
    
    Real Madrid		19	14	3	2	44	15	31
    Barcelona FC	19	12	4	3	44	25	28
    Zaragoza		19	10	4	3	34	13	26
    Valencia		19	11	3	5	37	20	25
    Sevilla		19	9	5	5	32	22	23
    
    Now then, I am sorry about the delay on putting these result for you
    today but there  was a meeting which was important to all of us in the
    group, nevertheless these are the main headlines from yesterday's
    predicaments in a very unusually cold week end:
    	Lu�s Aragon�s was again facing the pressing questions from
    everybody, related one way or another to the once challenger to the
    title, because Atl�tico is  now 9 points adrift from Real Madrid, the
    funny thing is that on Wendnesday in King's cup tie, they scored 6
    goals to progress into the next round, yesterday's performance was so
    poor, for instance when the two subs were used, then Juanito twisted
    his ankle and was forced to play upfront when he could hardly walk
    never main trying to kick the ball.
    	Real Madrid were not free from trouble, against one Tenerife that
    needs the points so badly, since they are playing very well, but nearly
    caused a shock when for the last quarter of the match had to suffer
    when Buyo, Madrid's goalie was sent off for wasting time, panic
    stations  M�chel had to put the goalie's gloves and jersey, and for the
    very first time was allowed oficially to grab the balls the fotballs
    this is, since he was Known to grab footballers balls' as in the case
    of Valderrama.
    	Barcelona are making good progress and the confidence of their
    manager is a BIG threat to Real Madrid, and Rafa�l Mendoza acknowledge
    that by saying that on Yesterday's performance which was a disgrace iin
    his own words, the tiltle chase is wide open as Bar�a is already uot of
    the King's cup, so the only thing in their minds will be the European
    Title , added to which the League title wwill be a bonus.
    	Javier Clemente  started his campaign with his right foot in front
    , by defeating Jhon Toshack's Sociedad by 2-0.
    
    Viva la vida
    Salud
    Juan	
18.80 ANTIC is being fired last nigth...PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaTue Jan 28 1992 13:4126
    
    	Not so bad, but not good enough, and we can use all kinds of
    clich�s to sum up the destiny of the latest casualty, weel I am 
    talking about the desmissal of Raddy Antic, Real Madrid were not very
    happy we the style of football which doesn't create an atmosphere of 
    confidence, lets faced when it comes to top level management is either:
    you are good, as it comes however, we are talking of n institution, so
    geared  up to good results, as well as having the squad of talented
    players, that somehow is a dream, for any manager.
    	There is a parallel to what happen to the basketball team earlier
    this month, an american that couldn't do any wrong last year, somehow
    this year though, He couldn't put together a string of good results,
    that is not what the fans expect, then, I suppose you have to honour
    your word, by taking full responsability for not motivating your,
    players to deliver the goods , that they are quite capable to do so, in
    the case of Antic, a nice person, if I would dare to say , he had low
    self-steem, because whenever, he was asked about the security of his
    job and his objectives as a whole, normally he answered in a very
    hesitant mood.
    	By the way, he was not alone since Rayo Vallecano, leaders of the
    second division, around christmas well a series of consecutive defeats,
    last month represented that, the manager had to go, also last night.
    well that is all folks
    Salud 
    Juan
     
18.81PEKING::WILSOND1Tue Jan 28 1992 13:557
    Juan......
    
        2 defeats in 16 months,isnt really a good reason to sack a manager.
    
      That is a joke,who'd be a manager in Spain.
    
    Dave...
18.82The perils of Top Management..PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaWed Jan 29 1992 09:3922
    
    Dave, it si not just the fact of loosing two matches out in sixteen
    games, but the real story comes much clear, if for instance I happen to
    mention that over the last two months, the team, which by the way is in
    fact a quite powerful squad, was getting too lay back, with a
    comfortable lead of nearly 9 points, but just after christmas, when
    playing terrible bad, they lost to Atl�tico de Madrid, is when panic
    took place, so there is where you need a Good Manager, to motivate your
    already talented squad, this I am afraid did not happen.
    	By the way he is not being kicked out of the club, just being given
    another role, to take care of business, the current manager will become
    a coach, in this case his name is known by almost everybody, Leo
    Benhaker.
    Another manager, in trouble is Lu�s Aragon�s, last night there was a
    meeting called by Mr Jes�s Gil, to announced certain new emergency
    measures, one for instance is that the former Real Madrid player,
    Losada, has been given three weeks holiday, perhaps by doing so it is
    the end of his career with the club, however as far as Aragon�s goes as
    far as I know at least he is in charge today, but He didn't say anything
    to the journalist as he was leaving the Club's building.
    
    
18.83Lu�s Aragon�s: Didn't fail/succed either.PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaThu Jan 30 1992 14:5719
    
    There was an announcemnet, last night which said that Lu�s Aragon�s was
    staying in charge of Atl�tico' football team, it was an amicable
    solution betweem him and the main man Jes�s Gil, the situation related
    to Losada though was quite categoric, " He was given a chance to play
    for a succesful team, but there was an evident lack of commitment,
    which cannot be accepted , therefore he must go" .. those were the
    words of the Se�or Gil y Gil.
    	As far as Antic is concerned, he refused to take the job of General
    Manager of the squad, therefore we may see him trying his lack
    elsewhere.
    	Javier Clemente, Espa�ol's new manager, with relation to the style
    that Real Madrid is about to use, under Benhaker's rule, had said:
    " what is the difference of beautiful football, an effective football,
    lets go back to 83, when AC  Milan destroyed, the so powerful Sapnish
    champion, and now after all these years, to make such an statement, it
    is to be seen.."
    That is all ..
    Juan 
18.84Bar�a blew it last night...PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Feb 03 1992 10:5137
    
    These are the results of 20th round in the League.
    
    	Sevilla			1	Athletic Bilbao		2
    	Deportivo Coru�a        0	Valencia		1
    	Real Sociedad		2	BArcelona FC		1
    	Logro�es		2	Tenerife		0
    	Real Madrid		1	Cadiz			1
    	Albacete		1	Osasuna			0
    	Burgos			1	Atl�tico de Madrid	1
    	Espa�ol			1	Zaragoza		0
    	Gij�n			1	Valladolid		0
    	Mallorca		2	Oviedo			1
    
    The talking around 19.00 hrs yesterday as Real Madrid could only draw
    at home to modest Cadiz, it was the first game for Leo Benhaker, and he
    was quite philosophical about the result by saying, that things do not
    change overnight, so at that time in the San Mam�s, at the end of the
    first half Real Sociedad was doing well, but until the last minute when
    Bakero a former Sociedad player scored to put the pressure on.
    The second half was different as Bar�a lost the drive allowing the
    young side managed by Toshack, to practically dictate the mood of the
    game, as a result of that pressure they score the second and definite
    goal that puts 4 points between Real Madrid and Barcelona.
    It  has to be said that the real surprise has to be Albacete,
    candidates to play European competition next season which must feel
    wonderful, since 2 years ago they were playing  Second division
    football, now they are at only 8 points of the leader Real Madrid,
    considering that the second Bar�a is at four points.
    The bottom clubs are fighting for survival and Tenerife must be under a
    lot of pressure because time is running out and so is the patience,
    mind you they are playing well, somehow the results do not seem to turn
    out good for them.
    
    Eso es todo Amigos...
    Salud Juan.
     
18.85Equipo del Virgen del PilarBONNET::ZIJLThe one who always loses his SODEXHO cardMon Feb 10 1992 11:206
    hola buenos dias, soy bart y soy holandes. Trabajo en Valbonne pero
    antes trabaje en Zaragoza. Me gustaria saber que tal mis amigos en Real
    Zaragoza. Porque como sabeis somos los mejores.
    
    hasta luego
    bart
18.86ZARA-GOZA!RTOIC::GGAUGLERMon Feb 10 1992 12:008
    
    Hi Bart,
    
    Los ma�os are doing very well this season after last year's hard fight
    against relegation. They should be amongst the top five now. I also
    became a Zaragocista when I studied there some years ago.
    
    G�nter
18.87Albacete the team of the moment..PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Feb 10 1992 12:1238
    
    These are the resilts over this week end:
    
    Tenerife		1	0	Deprtivo La Coru�a
    Real Valladolid	2	1	Real Madrid
    Athletic Bilbao	2	0	Sporting de Gij�n
    Real Zaragoza	1	3	Real Sociedad
    Cadiz		2	0	Logro�es
    Oviedo		1	0	Espa�ol	
    Barcelona FC	1	0	Sevilla
    Valencia		1	1	Albacete
    Osasuna		1	1	Burgos
    Atl�tico Madrid	3	0	Real Mallorca
    
    
    Leading positions
    
    Real Madrid		21	14	4	3	46	18	32
    Barcelona FC	21	13	4	4	46	27	30
    Valencia		21	12	4	5	39	21	28
    Zaragoza		21	10	6	5	35	17	26
    
    Benito Floro is the man of the moment, his team Albacete is 12 games
    without losing, and since they do not have any big names , it is even
    more succesful.
    Leo had to suffer again, and the press could be cruel and impatient,
    since he had lost 3 points in 2 games, on the other hand Atl�tico
    Madrid are showing some improvement, especially Paolo Futre with his 
    7th goal in 4 games.
    Real Sociedad did themselves some justice after disposing of the fancy
    Zaragoza ( para BART, vaya que pena que tus amiguetes te hayan
    decepcionado un poquillo eh?? ....)
    That is all today, it is much shorter tahn usual, next week it will be
    better.
    Salud 
    Juan
    
    
18.88Real is at the top.....PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Feb 17 1992 10:2859
    
    These are the results over this week end:
    
    	Zaragoza		0	4	Barcelona FC
    	Sporting Gij�n		2	1	Sevilla
    	Logro�es		0	0	Real Valladolid
    	Deportivo Coru�a       	1	1	Cadiz
    	Albacete		1	1	Tenrife FC
    	Real Burgos		2	1	Valencia
    	Real Mallorca		1	1	Osasuna
    	Espa�ol			1	2	Atl�tico Madrid
    	Real Sociedad		2	1	Real Oviedo
    	Real Madrid		5	0	Athletic Bilbao
    
    And for the first time these is the complete table:
    
    			P	W	D	L	F	A	PTS
    
    REAL MADRID		22	15	4	3	51	18	34
    BARCELONA FC	22	14	4	4	50	27	32
    ATL�TICO MADRID	22	13	2	7	33	20	28
    VALENCIA		22	12	4	6	30	23	28
    ALBACETE		22	11	5	6	28	22	27
    SPORTING GIJ�N	22	11	4	7	23	20	26
    ZARAGOZA		22	10	6	6	25	22	26
    REAL BURGOS		22	8	9	5	21	15	25
    REAL SOCIEDAD	22	9	6	7	24	22	24
    SEVILLA		22	9	5	8	35	27	23
    LOGRO�ES		22	8	4	10	19	32	20
    OVIEDO		22	6	7	9	20	22	19
    ATHLETIC BILABAO	22	7	5	10	23	39	19
    OSASUNA		22	6	6	10	17	26	18	
    DEPORTIVO CORU�A	22	5	8	9	16	22	18
    TENERIFE		22	5	7	10	26	33	17
    CADIZ		22	5	6	11	18	27	16
    VALLADOLID		22	4	7	11	19	30	15
    MALLORCA		22	4	4	14	21	39	12
    ESPA�OL		22	4	4	14	21	39	12
    
    
    Well the major surprise was to see, Leo's team winning at last,
    although it wasn't a vintage Madrid performance, the result was peasing
    the 90,000 spectators, by the way amongs them was the most talented
    footballer of all time, no other than PEL� .
    Anyway the football was not brilliant and the Bialbao's goalie perhaps
    need glasses, since it was mainly his fault on all the goals.
    Barcelona on the other hand put up a good performance and destroyed the
    defence of a good team like Zaragoza, but to make a valid comment I
    would say that out of those teams fighting for thr title, Barcelona
    seemed the most accomplished team., with a lot of confindence and good
    football too.
    Atl�tico Madrid is enjoying a good recovery, and this time the victims
    were Espa�ol, the team at the bottom of the table, mind you Javier
    Clemente is probably one of the best managers in Spanish football,
    together with Benito Floro, whose tean Albacete maintains a 13 games
    without losing.
    that is all for today
    Salud juan
     		
18.89Spain to win tonight .. no problem.PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaWed Feb 19 1992 13:4318
    
    Tonight the national team, is to face players with no country,
    otherwise known as Commonwealth of Independent States, the not so very
    nice news involved Rafa�l Mart�n Vasquez, who was not convoque by the
    new manager to play on tonight, considering that he Vasquez was
    substitute for the Italian Team Torino, perhaps it was in the interest
    of the team as a whole that Viera, forgot about him, however Vasquez
    was very upset and declare to the press that, He might not be
    interested to play for the National side in the future, nevertheless by
    law if the manager wants a player, that player has to complied with his
    duty, on the other hand though F�nseca is making his debut, and I hope
    is a good one, since that every week he was producing those memorable
    performances for his team Real Valladolid.
    	Last night , the Olympic side managed by Ladislao Kubala, did good
    account of themselves, by defeating the German side by TWO goals to
    Nil, I must point out very significantly, the possibility of a medal in
    the Olympic games to take palce later on this year i Barcelona.  
                             
18.90Real Madrid....is holding on...PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Feb 24 1992 11:5341
    
    The results on week 24 of the Spanish League.
    
    	Sevilla		1	0	Real Madrid
    	Barcelona FC	1	1	Sporting de Gij�n
    Athletic Bilbao	1	2	Logro�es
    Real Valladolid	2	0	Deportivo La Coru�a
    	Valencia 	1	1	Real Mallorca
    	Osasuna		0	1	Real Espa�ol FC
    Atl�tico de Madrdi	5	1	Real Sociedad
    	Oviedo		2	1	Real Zaragoza
    	Tenerife	4	1	Real Burgos
    	Cadiz BCF	1	1	Sociedad Club Deportivo Albacete
    
    The week-end was full of incidents, one managerial casualty, some
    memorable goals, some philosophical views, long faces, and a ongoing
    record breaking performance.
    	To start the sad departure of I�aki Saez, the Athletic de Bilbao 
    manager, after losing at home and moving dangerously to the relagation
    zone, was to much to handle.
    The other manager in trouble, is Leo Benhaker who on his declarations
    to the press said that.." ..every year at around January nad February,
    the club goes trhough a bad patch, and this year is no different at
    all, however now the league has turn RED HOT, with Atl�tico improving
    all the time, and Paulo Futre , perhaps playing his best football ever,
    and by the way, He hasn't sign yet for Atl�tico de Madrid, there are
    rumours linking him with Real Madrid, and some italian teams also.
    	Barcelona had the greatest opportunity to go to the top, only if
    the Asturian Club determination stop that , yet again , as it happens
    Bar�a lost 3 points to them, mind you next week Real Madrid have to
    play Sporting, and the week later is the big clash Between Bar�a and
    Real Madrid at the Nou Camp.
    	The record breaking club is without a doubt Benito Floro's Team,
    Albacete , 14 games withput a defeat.
    	The most spectacular goal of the day has to be Fonseca's for
    Valladolid, only to compete with Cremonesse's goal keeper in the
    Italian league.
    That is all good people..
    until next time...
    Salud Juan
    
18.91where are they going????????BONNET::HOLLESTELLETue Feb 25 1992 16:275
    Seems like Real Zaragoza really has to pay for its efforts at the
    beginning of the season now. Do you know what position they occupy now?
    
    regards,
    Bart.
18.92Adios, a todos.PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaMon Mar 02 1992 09:1837
    
    The results over the week end were the following:
    
    	Real Madrid		1	0	Sporting de Gij�n
    	Oviedo			0	0	FC Barcelona
    	Zaragoza		1	0	Atl�tico de Madrid
    	Espa�ol			0	0	Valencia
    	Logro�es		1	0	Sevilla
    	Deportivo Coru�a	0	0	Athletic Bilbao
    	Albacete		3	1	Real Valladolid
    	Burgos			1	1	Cadiz
    	Real Mallorca		0	2	Tenerife FC
    	Real Sociedad		0	0	Osasuna
    
    Well my friends, this is going to be my last week with DIGITAL,
    therefore the jinx of the Spanish league Notes, gets another one , just
    like before with Juanjo ( Juan Jos� Arevalillo ), it is my turn now
    and I am Juan Jos� Villegas.
    	Anyway, Real Madrid still leads the table, followed very closely by
    their archrivals Bar�a the difference is one point which could go
    either way when they meet at the Camp Nou, next week end, on what is
    going to be the clash of the year so far, the most striking thing is
    that Albacete is the team of the moment, with 15 games without a
    defeat, and to show thir progress at the moment they are in fourth
    place alongside Atl�tico de Madrid with 30 points.
    	Tommorrow I shall write my last note, with the league table, and
    perhaps, somebody will let me use the notes facility, to carry on with
    the Spanish League results, since my move is to a partner company,
    we are going to be based at the same building, the difference being,
    only we have to report to a different boss.
    
    So get tough, get even thougher if you can, life is a bitch, and then
    you die....
    
    Salud 
    Viva la vida, el vino, y las mujeres que de �ste mundo son lo mejor.
    Juan
18.93ConfusedKBOMFG::TANNERVorsprung durch GuinnessMon Mar 02 1992 18:2015
    
      Juan..
    
        I thought I saw Barcelona score two goals against some team
    without reply, was this in the league or was it some cup game??? I
    think Bakero, and Laudrup scored the goals. I was just wondering
    because you have Barces score at 0-0.  Please let me know what the
    story is.
    
                                                        thanks....
    
                                                            -dave-
    
    p.s  All the best in your new job, and thanks for all the info in the
    past.
18.94It was 0-2 in favour of Bar�a..PEKING::VILLEGASJThe sun always shines in La PalmaFri Mar 06 1992 10:437
    
    Absolutely you are right, the score I put on the notes was wrong oh my
    head is gone of course they beat the asturian team, away from home 
    
    sorry folks, it was the exitement.
    salud 
    juan
18.95Bar�a ChampionsSUBURB::INV_LIBRARYWho hell he?!?Tue Jun 09 1992 11:309
    
    Bar�elona won the Spanish League title on Sunday, pipping Real Madrid
    at the post. In truth, Real chucked it away since they only needed a
    draw and yet managed to lose 3 - 2 to mid-table Tenerife after being 
    2 - 0 up.
    
    I wonder if Raddy Antic had a quiet chuckle to himself?
    
    jeff
18.96When champions are'nt championsARRODS::OHAGANBFour Thousand Week HangoverTue Jun 09 1992 13:313
    Does this mean Real enter the European Cup next season as runners up?
    
    barry.
18.97RIGHTO::HAIGHOh well another 4 years abroad.Tue Jun 09 1992 16:545
    
    	No. Only champions. By the way congrats to Barcelona who have
    played some superb football over the last 2 years.
    
    		Steve
18.98The revenge of the bandidos...PEKING::DAVIESGI did WHAT last nite? oooh boy. Tue Aug 11 1992 14:2115
    
    HA,ha ha ,ha,ha, hello boys
    Real Madrid is the best team that ever walk the surface of the earth,
    and now the proof of the cookie, will be that despite the fact that the
    catalanes organised the olympic games and Barcelona won the European
    cup and the league, the Merengues are going to wipe out, everything
    that Barcelona had ever achieved..
    We have got the best manager nad the best dream team, so what youy
    gonna do when Madrid is Champion of Europe again.
    
      this is for you 
    Stay sober until sunset...
    Salud Juan.
    
    
18.99Spanish results ??ELIS::GEELENTue Oct 13 1992 10:1317
    I'm interested in the Spanish League, because there are many Dutch
    players in it, like : R. Koeman, R. Witgsche, M. BoereBach 
    
    and Trainers like : G. Hiddink (Valencia),J. Cruijff (Barcelona),
                        B. Jacobs (Sp. Gijon) T. Vonk (Burgos).
    
    So I would like to now how they are doing right now?
    
    What their team result and position in the league are ??
    
    Could anyone be so kind to answer these questions ?
    
    Is La Coruna able to beat Barcelona this week-end (since they beat Real
    Madrid the other day !)
    
    Jeroen.
    
18.100Results?ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLIONCan-tas-ticMon Jan 04 1993 10:234
Anybody has results of yesterday's game?

Thanks
JF
18.101I'm timing this answer !! 8*)KIRKTN::CDOUDIEZig....IN YOUR FACE !!Mon Jun 07 1993 14:517
    
    Is Crujff(sp) still manager at Barcelona and who is the manager of Real
    Madrid at the moment ??
    
    thanks 
    
    colin.
18.102Ra Gers in Madrid next year ?GVA02::BREADIETue Jun 15 1993 15:195
    Can anybody put in the current league table and explain who Real Madrid
    and Barcelona play in the last remaining match ?
    
    thanks
    Denis
18.103Come on TenerifeGALVIA::SPAINTaylor must STAYTue Jun 15 1993 16:308
    
    Real lead by a point but visit Tenerife.  Shades of 2 years ago.
    I can't remember who Barca face.
    
    Denis, I trust you want to leave your Spanish trip until the champions
    league.
    
    Gary.
18.104Also cup match!!!KBOMFG::TANNERCalifornian Girls are more fun!!!!!Wed Jun 16 1993 09:336
   Real has to make the trip to Barca for the return leg of the cup semi-final,
I think it's the semi-final, if not then it's the final. They drew 1-1 in Madrid
and I believe the return leg is next week, I'll let ye know if I hear something.

                                                                     -dave-
18.105Return leg was last night.....KBOMFG::TANNERCalifornian Girls are more fun!!!!!Thu Jun 17 1993 14:0412
  
   Real Madrid are through to the Spanish cup final and they also ended Johan
Cruyffs  unbeaten home run. They won the game 2-1  (agg 3-2) and they also played
the game with 10 men from the 34th minute on. Koeman hit the bar twice, one from
a free kick and one from the penalty spot. Barca were very unlucky to loose this
game, they dominated most of the precedings but just couldn't put the ball in the
net. 

   This is barca first home defeat since Cruyff took over back in 1988, that's a
fairly impressive home record.

                                                                     -dave-
18.106Surely Real did't blow it again ?ULYSSE::BREADIEMon Jun 21 1993 10:325
    If Real got beaten 2-0 by tenerife, what was the Barcelona score and
    who won the league ?
    
    thanks
    Denis
18.107Deja Vu.....GYMAC::DCASSIDYMon Jun 21 1993 10:405
    
    Barcelona won 1-0 and so take the title in similar circumstances to
    last season.....
    
    Dezzz. 
18.108JC did it againUTROP1::JANSENReading Blondes have more funMon Jun 21 1993 10:4014
                     <<< Note 18.106 by ULYSSE::BREADIE >>>
                     -< Surely Real did't blow it again ? >-

>>    If Real got beaten 2-0 by tenerife, what was the Barcelona score and
>>    who won the league ?
    
>>    thanks
>>    Denis

Barcalona won 1-0 and again won the Spanish league, JC is becomming more
and more the JC who lived a few centuries ago :-)))


T_
18.109bl**dy wimpsULYSSE::BREADIEMon Jun 21 1993 12:382
    dam dam dam.  Guess won't be seeing rangers or manu Utd in madrid this
    season.
18.110Ton do ya mean Jackie Charlton????!!!!!!!KBOMFG::TANNERSomeone somewhere in summertime!!!!!!Mon Jun 21 1993 14:4712
  Well fair play to Barca and JC, they owe Teneriffe millions, this is the second
season in a row that Real screwed up the league by losing their last game to
Teneriffe. Can someone post a list of Honours that Cruyff has won as a player
and coach over the past twenty years or so. Ton Iam sure you know all the honours
he won at Ajax, but who knows all of them at Barca???? and not forgeting New York
Cosmos????


                                                     all the best......

                                                          -dave-
18.111yesterday resultsROMCSA::BIANCHINIDa qui messere si domina la valleMon Sep 06 1993 17:216
    Could someone write the yesterday results?
    (at least Barcelona)
    
    Thanks
    
    Pino
18.1123-0ESSB::BLONGUNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993Mon Sep 06 1993 18:514
Barcalona won 3-0 against Real Sociedad with new signing Brazilian Romario
getting all three goals.

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18.113RTOEU::RDELANEYMurdo on the Orient express.....Tue Sep 07 1993 09:202
    And very nice goals they were too. Especially liked the one he took on
    his chest outside and chipped the keeper with a first time volley.
18.114EXISIDRO::BREADIETue Sep 07 1993 10:1313
    Results from week one:
    
    	
        	TENERIFE 1 - 0 LLEIDA
    		RACING   1 - 0 RAYO VALL
      	     ATHLETICO M 1 - 0 LOGRO�ES
    		OVIEDO   0 - 3 VALLENCIA
    	       DEPORTIVO 0 - 0 CELTA
    	      VALLADOLID 0 - 1 SPORTING
    		OSASUNA  1 - 4 REAL MADRID
               ZARAGOZA  1 - 2 SEVILLA
               BARCELONA 3 - 0 R SOCIEDAD
               ATHLETIC  4 - 1 ALBACETE
18.115ISIDRO::BREADIEMon Sep 13 1993 10:4022

	Good weekend for away teams in the Spanish league, only one home
        winner. Guess there will be a major inquest in Madrid after
        Real getting gubbed at home.

        Denis


    
	SPANISH RESULTS 
        ===============
	LLEIDA    1 - 2  ATHLETIC B
	REAL VALL 4 - 3  TENERIFE
	LOGRO�ES  0 - 1  RACING S
	VALENCIA  2 - 2  ATHLETIC M
	CELTA     1 - 1  OVIEDO
	SPORTING  0 - 2  DEPORTIVO
     REAL MADRID  1 - 3  VALLADOLID
	SEVILLA   0 - 0  OSASUNA
  REAL SOCIEDAD   2 - 2  ZARAGOZA
	ALBACETE  0 - 0  BARCELONA
18.116early days yet..ISIDRO::BREADIEMon Sep 20 1993 09:1615
    This weekend's Spanish results:   La Corunna are back at the top like
                                      at the start of last season, whilst 
                                      the crisis at Real develops !


		DEPOTIVA     4-0   REAL MADRID
		LLEIDA       0-1   VALLECANO
                SANTANDER    0-1   VALLENCIA
		ATHLETIC M   3-2   CELTA
                OVIEDO       0-1   SPORTING
		VALLADOLID   2-2   SEVILLA
		OSASUNA      0-2   SOCIADAD
                ZARAGOZA     1-1   ALBACETE
                BILBAO       0-0   BARCALONA
18.117Celta look as good as Celtic !ISIDRO::BREADIEMon Sep 27 1993 14:4223
SPAIN WEEK 4:
						  TEAM		POINTS
	RAYO VALL  1  2  ATHLETIC		ATHLETIC	7
	LOGRONES   2  1  LLEIDA			VALENCIA        7
	VALENCIA   3  2  TENERIFE		BARCELONA	6
	CELTA      0  0  RACING			DEPORTIVO	6
	SPORTING   1  1  ATHLETICO M		ATHLETICO M	6
	REAL       0  1  OVIEDO			RACING		5
	SEVILLA    0  0  DEPORTIVA		SEVILLA		5
        SOCIADAD   1  0  VALLALDOLID		SPORTING	5
	ALBACETE   2  1  OSASUNA		SOCIADAD	5
        BARCELONA  4  1  ZARAGOZA		TENERIFE        4
					        RAYO V		4
 Real Madrid in the relegation zone,		ALBECETE	4
 with their next match away to Athletico        VALLALODID      3
 Madrid of all teams, should be a cracker.      CELTA		3
 The other top teams all have what look on	OVIEDO          3
 paper fairly easy games.			LOGRONES        2
						REAL M		2
                                                ZARAGOZA        2
                                                OSASUNA         1
						LLEIDA          0	
18.118Just interestedMOEUR8::SMITHMon Mar 14 1994 12:3914
    
    Did anyone see the Barcelona game over the weekend, I caught some
    highlights but in undecoded 'squiggly' vision.
    
    There seemed to be about 3 sendings off, 6(ish) goals, I dunno who won,
    many bookings, several disallowed goals.  Many points out of 10 for
    entertainment, but 0 for the ref. who seemed over officious.
    
    Can anyone give me the blow by blow account, chronological order for
    goals, bookings, sendings off, disallowed goals, and was the ref.
    correct at all?
    
    Thanks,
    Ian
18.119Spanish leage 94/95?SAC::PRICE_RRoyMon Mar 14 1994 13:0715
Can anyone help with some info please.

I'll be off to sunny spain (e viva espana! etc), in August
and I'll be around an hours drive from Barcelona - 2 questions:

when does the Spanish league normally start (please early Aug)?

&

what's the likelihood of getting into the Nou camp by turning
up or buying a ticket in the run-in to a game. 

Thanks in advance

Roy
18.120Barcelona 5-3 Atletico MadridPRSIS7::LAFONTAINEA flame about this highMon Mar 14 1994 13:1417
    Barcelona 5-3 Atletico Madrid
    
    [as far as i remamber:]
    
    2 red cards on each side, including Stoichov and Koeman for Barcelona.
    
    Score went: Barca 1-0, Atletico 2-1, 2-2 tie, Atletico 3-2, 3-3 tie,
    Barca 5-3.
    Barcelona saw 2 other goals cancelled for offside...
    
    Romario scored at least 3, Stoichov made a perfect free kick and missed
    a penalty.
    
    Eric
    
    PS  Buy a decoder, Or I'll interpret this as Anti Paris-SG behaviour
    8-)
18.121Paris, I luv ParisMOEUR7::SMITHMon Mar 14 1994 14:308
    
  >  PS  Buy a decoder, Or I'll interpret this as Anti Paris-SG behaviour
  >  8-)
    
     And to think that I work near Paris too....          :-)
    
    P.S. I even went to Parc des Princes last Saturday - oops this isn't the
    Rugby notes conference!    :-)   :-)
18.122Barcelona take the league........KBOMFG::TANNERMidnight is where the day begins..Tue May 17 1994 15:1123
  Well if ye think the Irish are lucky then what would you call Barcelona???
for the third time in a row they have won the league on the last day of the
season.... The past two seasons Real Madrid lost out in their last game losing
to Teneriffe on both occasions... this year it was La Coruna who have 
practically been on top all season except for the end.... 

   While Barcelona beat Seville 5-2 after been down 2-1 at half time La Coruna
only managed a draw and also missed a penalty in the last minute. Both Barca
and Coruna finished with the same number of points but direct comparision gave
Barca the title.... Barca beat Curuna at home 3-0 while coruna only beat Barca
1-0......

   On wednesday Cruyffs team take on Ac Milan in the European cup in Athens I
only hope Barca can play them off the pitch and win by two or three goals...


   La Coruna, Real Madrid, Real Saragosa, and Athletico Bilbao have all 
qualified for Europe....

                                 your Spanish reporter in Germany........

                                                        -dave-
18.123IRNBRU::HOWARDLovely day for a GuinnessWed Aug 02 1995 13:287
    I read somewhere that 2 clubs, (Sevilla & ?) had been relegated from
    the Spanish 1st Division to the 3rd Division because they didn't submit
    a budget to the league, (or something like that)....
    
    Ray Howard,
    News at Ten,
    Somewhere in Scotland....
18.124Celta were the other clubCHEFS::STRATFORDSDisconnect brain from mouthWed Aug 02 1995 13:301
    
18.125A SHIRT TO SALE PLEASE ...VAXRIO::MCASTROWed Aug 02 1995 14:149
    
    Hi all,
    
    I'm brazilian, is my first participation in this notes.
    
    I want adcure a shirt of Spanish league, if somebody to know something
    please contact me.
    
    Marcelo Castro  - Vaxmail - VAXRIO::MCASTRO
18.126Bebeto,Bebeto,Bebeto,Bebeto,BebetoVNACO1::HERIBERTTue Oct 03 1995 14:488
5th round in Spain

La Coruna (5th) - Albacete (12)	5:0  (1:0)

All 5 goals Brasil's star BEBETO !!!
The last 4 goals in 6 minutes !!!

2.,83.,84.,86.,89 minute
18.1275 X BebetoVAXRIO::MCASTROFri Oct 27 1995 13:033
       Dale  BEBETO, is the beter in Spain !
    
       Marclelo - Brazil