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Conference abbott::java

Title:JAVA
Moderator:KOALA::CIOT
Created:Mon Nov 13 1995
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:236
Total number of notes:1251

140.0. "JAVA for OVMS?" by ACISS1::TSUCHIYAMA (Gary Tsuchiyama @CPO 447-2812) Tue Jun 25 1996 18:40

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140.1surely you jestDECWET::SDYSteven D. YeeTue Jun 25 1996 22:239
140.2re: Java for OVMSTLE::JCCWed Jun 26 1996 07:365
140.3Ask Sue DenhamGYRO::eps1.zko.dec.com::nozell[email protected]Wed Jun 26 1996 11:057
140.4DECWET::SDYSteven D. YeeWed Jun 26 1996 13:045
140.5Ask themGYRO::eps1.zko.dec.com::nozell[email protected]Fri Jun 28 1996 16:004
140.6FBEDEV::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatFri Jun 28 1996 18:061
140.7Our strategy is....OSLLAV::MARTINR_PAdvice: Say nothing often...Tue Jul 02 1996 06:0510
140.8KOALA::CIOTTue Jul 02 1996 14:3286
140.9Ask Tony SchofieldGYRO::eps1.zko.dec.com::nozell[email protected]Wed Jul 03 1996 15:3912
140.10And the answer is (or was)...?NYOSS1::GOODMANI see you shiver with antici.........pation!Fri Sep 27 1996 13:550
140.11http://ibgzko.zko.dec.com/nozell/ibg-interest/hypermail/0414.htmlGYRO::eps1.zko.dec.com::nozellMarc Nozell (http://ibgzko.zko.dec.com/nozell)Mon Sep 30 1996 10:3431
140.12so Netscape gets to use the VM?COOKIE::MARTINLife is tradeoffsTue Nov 19 1996 13:386
140.13Yes, Java for NetscapePEACHS::HAZZARDWed Nov 20 1996 07:509
140.14STAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringWed Nov 20 1996 13:325
140.15thanks manCOOKIE::MARTINLife is tradeoffsWed Nov 20 1996 16:493
140.16Java *application* support built into OpenVMS?CPEEDY::COOKJust say NO to that AccViO! - Java!!!Wed Apr 02 1997 16:5738
    
    Here's what I'd like to see get implemented on OpenVMS in
    regard to Java support:
    
    	Built in 'runtime' support for Java *applications*
    	--------------------------------------------------
    
    	o An implementation of the JVM that ships as part of OpenVMS
    	  (sort of analogous to the fact that the C-runtime ships as part
    	   of OpenVMS to support C-language-based applications).
    
    	o The DCL-command '$ Java' would presumably also be defined
    	  in the DCL tables to support invoking .class Java applications.
    
    	o If possible, an additional function might be to also support
    	  the execution of Java-applications that were packaged into
    	  a .EXE form (as distinct from the .class form).  While this
    	  form would then not be architecture neutral, it would presumably
    	  have better startup/execution performance.  (Tools to accomplish
    	  this are already becoming available from other companies
    	  targeting other platforms/OSes.)
    	  
    	o etc.
    
    
    The goal of such software would be so that OpenVMS layered products
    could start using Java and shipping some of their components as
    Java applications.  (Note: I'm referring to Java *applications*...
    *not* to Java Applets / HTML-based Java.)
    
    
    Are there any plans along these lines in the works?
    
    Thanks...
    
    						Dave
    
          
140.17current plansSTAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringThu Apr 03 1997 09:4034
>        o An implementation of the JVM that ships as part of OpenVMS
>          (sort of analogous to the fact that the C-runtime ships as part
>           of OpenVMS to support C-language-based applications).

Its being worked on. Expect to see a beta within a couple of months or so.

>        o The DCL-command '$ Java' would presumably also be defined
>          in the DCL tables to support invoking .class Java applications.

Whether its defined in DCLTABLES or invoked via a foreign command is
undecided at this point.

>        o If possible, an additional function might be to also support
>          the execution of Java-applications that were packaged into
>          a .EXE form (as distinct from the .class form).  While this
>          form would then not be architecture neutral, it would presumably
>          have better startup/execution performance.  (Tools to accomplish
>          this are already becoming available from other companies
>          targeting other platforms/OSes.)

The top priority is to get the JDK (including a just-in-time compiler) on
OpenVMS. Native compilers are being talked about but won't be a part of the
initial offering.

>    The goal of such software would be so that OpenVMS layered products
>    could start using Java and shipping some of their components as
>    Java applications.  (Note: I'm referring to Java *applications*...
>    *not* to Java Applets / HTML-based Java.)
>    
>    Are there any plans along these lines in the works?

The plans are to ship Java as part of the O/S once its ready.

Colin.