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Conference tincup::dart

Title:D A R T <--> L A P T O P
Moderator:DEBUG::GALLOFIELD
Created:Tue Jun 02 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:501
Total number of notes:3514

499.0. "Is DARTCH really dead or What ?" by MAASUP::TURRO (Make it so number 1) Wed Apr 02 1997 15:29

    Im hearing thru the grapevine that DARTCH is now officially dead.
    That is , what we have now is it. Can someone confirm this. I liked
    using the product for the past 3 or 4 years. But it its not going to
    be fixed to work with TElent/Etc... then Im going to stop using it
    as Im probably the only one using it. 
    
    However if there is some midnight hacking going on let me know!
    I find it veryhelpful in going thru past calls. The one feature
    that was great with the old version of DARTCH/Keaterm was the ability
    to archive for a year. Since we had to downgrade to version 3.0 
    keaterm it just hasnt been the same!
    
    Mike Turro
    Baltimore MCS
    
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499.1SCASS1::SHOOKclear pattern of faulty recollectionWed Apr 02 1997 22:3510
    
    <----  We are currently doing real time reporting in Dallas, i.e.
    calling in when on-site, doing lars via laptop or 800#, etc.  This
    precludes doing lars locally and uploading them at the end of the
    day.  Since this program will be declared a success and implemented
    everywhere, there will be no future need for DARTCH. IMHO, of
    course.8^) 
    
    Bill 
    
499.2Well, I still use it.. Every Day ..PTOSS1::MATSCHERZThu Apr 03 1997 17:1623
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    Mike,
      You are probably correct.  I'd say that since most of the field does
    not use Dart then it most likely has no future.  Now if everyone used
    it and declared it wonderful then it'd be different.  I do use it here
    every day and I've used it since it was released.  As far as the telnet
    capabilities for Keaterm I'd say that it could be done but I'm not
    going to put any effort forward for it as I have been able to get the
    local connection to work fine.  I know that's no excuse for people who
    don't have local dial ups but the credit card still is an option.  The
    credit card dial out feature does work on it and you can get into any
    dec site with that.  As for the .1 reply I'd say that he has some
    inside info on where we're heading with Champ and it isn't with Dart. 
    I'd personally like to see some form of Dart on the new setup even if
    it isn't used widely.  I like the features of Dart and will use it till
    it's dead.  (only because I like those features BTW)  If it'd help I
    would be happy to show anybody the advantages of using Dart.  That may
    help convince someone that we need to keep it.  Who knows, maybe I'd
    become the Dart spokesperson !  (and get the package when it really
    died ! ) 
    
    L8tr..
    Stevem..
499.3blast from the pastWHTAIL::TALBOTFri Apr 04 1997 07:0311
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.
    Twenty years ago, every time you left a site or had to
    scratch your ass you had to call in. Thats what its coming
    to now. They went to dart and champ auto call handling to
    releive the work load on the local office people.
    No that they have cut the feet on the street, obviously
    that call in traffic has declined.
    
    As time goes on, all the changes that have been made are all
    being abandoned for earlier methods of doing business. Its 
    hindsight and not foresight.
499.4Death to DART? NO way...MAS::OREILLYTue Apr 08 1997 17:5818
    the real time reporting hit us up in the northeast
    however it's only for T-times (DECservice onsite notifications
    2hr, 4hr, 8hr action outages. I'm the only one in my office using
    DART (for 3-4 yrs. happily) and am going to continue using it
    secretly, of course, The t-times should not be an issue.  I'm not
    using Tel-net because it doesn't work. My megahertz 28.8 modem works
    fine until they shut off lat access to Champ...
    
    I too believe this "REAL Time" reporting will go away again.
    However the best case for DART is to continue to use it and raise 
    any T-time flags, pro-actively call your DOC if/when approaching
    T-time flags...
    
    i'll keep you posted.
    
    Kevin O'Reilly
    Rochester MCSe
     
499.5Dart Forever !!!ACISS2::BOOSINGERThe change in your pocket...Thu Apr 17 1997 07:1914
    I like Steve M. and Mike T. will continue using DART til it (or I)
    dies. Show me another way to "easily look up customer info, call info,
    LARS info, engineer info, etc, etc etc...) and ALL TOTALLY OFFLINE...
    
    Here's hoping and praying it NEVER DIES (as long as I'm in the field).
    
    Being an old "FOCAL", I pushed DART as much as I could, but getting the
    engineers to "use the tools" was such a pain. Amazing how people in
    such a technical field could not se the benefit of such an important
    tool. 
    
    My $.02
    
    John
499.6in for the long haul.TIMAMP::KTHOMPSONDuluth, MinnesotaThu Apr 17 1997 09:006
    I also use Dart all the time, it's really a good and effictive tool for 
    on and off line work.
    
    ps thanks Steve the web site is neat and the files work great!
    
    			Ken
499.7http://www.themall.net/~stevem52/work.htmlPTOSS1::MATSCHERZFri Apr 18 1997 16:065
    re. -1  
      Good to hear that someone used them.  I was wondering if it was worth
    it.  
    
    Stevem...