Conference thebay::joyoflex

1143.0. "Feedbacks" by BPSOF::GYONGYOSI () Thu Jun 01 1995 00:35

    Dear Co-noters!
    
    As a newcomer and seemingly the sole reader from DEC-HU let me add a
    set of feedbacks to notes 950+.  OMHO some of them hadn't been answered
    or had an incorrect end.  (I thought, adding the answeres there were
    merely a waste of storage since nobody but newcomers read notes elder
    than a few weeks... Adding them as a new topic may start an other JOL
    chain...)
    
    Re 1028.7: Russia performed a migration to Gregorian calendar system
    *after* the 1917 October revolution and skipped some 2 weeks. So for
    the time being they celebrate an event of 25th October (according to
    the old system) at 7th November in the new one. (I think, the reason
    of difference was that their system didn't use leap-years at all.)
    Dating difference is of a very common problem! Jewis people have a
    date somewhere in the 5Xth century, China, Vietnam also has a different
    calendar system. Their history is also facing this problem as they
    decide to unify and migrate.
    
    Re 996.18: I protest against this! It must be a joke or a puzzle!
    (Unfortunately I don't know, what "Winnie the Pooh is...) The text
    sounds in fluent Hungarian as follows:
    "K�rem kopogtatni, ha azt k�ri, hogy kinyissuk"
    "Ha nem akarja, hogy kinyissuk, k�retik csengetni"
    When I was a school boy, I was tought that the percentage of vowels in
    the spoken Hungarian is 47% which is a leasonably high I think!
    
    Re 996.22: The Hungarian alphabet consists of 45 letters: A � B C CS D
    DZ DZS E � F G GY H I � J K L LY M N NY O � � � P Q R S SZ T TY U � � �
    V W X Y Z ZS. (Oooops, this is 44 only I blew something...) So that it
    should be even more complicated we distinguish "double" (long) consonants
    as well, as SS, SSZ but aren't considered to be separete letters.
    
    Back to 996.18: As you may see we have 14 vowels against the 5 of
    English! Maybe the accented vowels don't go through the 7 bit protocoll...
    So I perform them in a bit different way: We have a and a', e and e'
    i and i' o and o', o:, o" u and u', u:, u" as well. (The accents are to
    be put on top of the letter, side by side.)
    
    Re 996.12: Definitely *NO*! Y is a vowel! It's called "I-grek" (= Greek
    "I") in serb, czeh, slowak, polish, bulgarian etc. that is Slavonic
    languages.
    
    Re 973.22 and 973.24: *Some* of European nations add the line through
    the downstroke of figure 7 and add a top stroke to figure 1. but the
    majority don't.
    And... some don't draw a straight line at the top of figure 7 but a wave
    form... (I think, you have already guessed, which nation am I speaking
    about... They love hot meals [I don't mean high temperature but full of
    paprika], strong brandy [especially made of apricot, cherry, plum], and
    have lots of extra peculiar habits.)
    
    Re 973.25: Of course, it wouldn't work... Japan is 5k miles from us! :-)
    
    Re ???.8 and .9 (Eskimo people have 40+ words for snow) Why not? They
    are continously surrounded with snow. Englishmen ougth to have almost
    as much words for rain... :-)
    (BTW I had been able to collect 6 words to distinguish rain types in 
    Hungarian... But we are realy experts in mooving (wanderings/migtation).
    (You know, we are told to have come from somewhere behind tha Ural
    Mountains in Asia, 3-4k miles from our present location.
    Still in the early classes of elementary school we had a home work to
    collect synonyms for mooving from point A to point B. The result were
    2 but a hundred synonymes and all of them had different attitude as
    definite/undefinite direction, fast/slow, vivid/tired etc.
    
    Joska
    

Re 996.18: mi, nem ismered Micimack�t?  A Micimack� Karinthy "Winnie-
the-Pooh" ford�t�sa.  �s biztos vagyok, hogy t�nyleg �gy van, ahogy a 
996.18-asban mondja Dave.

Sorry about that.  I was telling J�ska about Winnie-the-Pooh, 
including the playful vowel-less inscription on the door.

By the way, I can't see any letters missing in your Hungarian 
alphabet, J�ska.  When I was a child (1950s), Dz and Dzs were not 
letters of the alphabet.  (The language hasn't changed since, just the 
convention about what belongs in the official alphabet.)