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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

1077.0. "That finely furrowed thing..." by VANINE::LOVELL (� l'eau; c'est l'heure) Wed Nov 24 1993 10:09

    
    	BBC Radio 4 were running a competition on this puzzler
    	and it was quite amazing to me that hardly anybody (even
    	medical doctors) could answer such a simple question of
    	vocabulary ;
    
    		"What is the correct word for that little furrow 
    		 on one's top lip?"
    
    	Bonus points for an answer that does not involve the use 
    	of Gray's Anatomy or obsolete English terms.
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1077.1Not obsoleteTLE::JBISHOPWed Nov 24 1993 11:513
    Philtrum
    
    	-John Bishop
1077.2VANINE::LOVELL� l'eau; c'est l'heureMon Nov 29 1993 06:443
Ahh thank you.  Now I admit my embarrassment at the fact that this was the
answer given on the radio program, but the spelling wasn't mentioned.  I had been
searching under "F". 
1077.3exAKOCOA::MACDONALDMon Nov 29 1993 12:2411
    Next time I get in a fist fight and get a split lip I'm going to call
    my Doc and tell her that I have a "broken philtrum" or some such; and I
    will try this out on my son who is a second year med school student. 
    
    I suppose one might also find the term useful in other environments, as
    when one is out for a romantic dinner with a special friend, and gazing
    at her/his face one might assay, "Your philtrum looks so lovely
    in this candlelight." 
    
    Bruce
    
1077.4I split my philtrum...OKFINE::KENAHThere are three sides to every story...Mon Nov 29 1993 13:131
    Happened to me -- I needed six stitches to put it back together.
1077.5Trivia AnatomicalWOOK::wookpc.mso.dec.com::LEEWook like book with a WMon Nov 29 1993 14:428
Another baffling bit of biological bric-a-brac is the thin flap of tissue 
connecting one's tongue to the floor of one's mouth. I think I remember what 
it is, but have at it.

One that I do remember is the bead-like bump of mucosal flesh inhabiting the 
inside corner of one's eye. Have at that as well.

Wook
1077.6more anatomical triviaQUOKKA::SNYDERSet your chickens freeMon Nov 29 1993 16:064
    Might as well throw in the smooth area between the eyebrows just above
    the nose.
    
    Sid
1077.7Would you win?AUSSIE::WHORLOWBushies do it for FREE!Mon Nov 29 1993 19:4515
    G'day,
    
     many years ago when Hughie Green was compere of 'Double your Money' on
    commercial television, a medical student made it to the �64,000
    question.....
    
    
    
    What is the name of the muscle in the skin that causes goose-pimples to
    be raised?
    
    
    (goose pimples = ducky-bumps for those west of the pond)
    
    derek
1077.8GIDDAY::BURTThere are chickens in the trees Mon Nov 29 1993 21:067
I _think_ a/the phrenulum (sp) is the bit that attaches your tongue to your 
mouth. I _know_ that the phrenulum is the bit of tissue beneath the upper lip, 
attached to the gum.


Chele

1077.9FORTY2::KNOWLESIntegrated Service: 2B+OTue Nov 30 1993 05:5112
    Re .7:
    
    Erector comes into it somewhere - erector <something>. Or maybe just
    erector.
    
    And while we're at it, take n, a publicity campaign for the SOED
    many years ago said there was a word for the precise spot on your back
    where you can't yourself reach - you know, the bit that itches. Anyone
    know what that is? (I don't, but my wife played a lowly part in the
    campaign and wants to know.)
    
    b
1077.10_Grey's_Anatomy_ should be a winner hereTLE::JBISHOPTue Nov 30 1993 08:597
    Frenum--any strip of skin or mucous membrane which checks the motion
    of a part of the body (from local big dictionary).
    
    No doubt each particular one has a qualified name, along the lines of
    "lingual frenum" (a guess).
    
    		-John Bishop
1077.11REGENT::BROOMHEADDon&#039;t panic -- yet.Tue Nov 30 1993 09:105
    While we're at it... There is a section of skin, between the lower
    lip and that crease above the chin, on which beard hairs will grow.
    What is the term for a `beard' which consists of only that patch?
    
    							Ann B.
1077.12RAGMOP::T_PARMENTERWhite folks can&#039;t clapTue Nov 30 1993 09:447
    That beard is called an imperial.
    
    Some schizophrenics invent words.  One I happen to know of invented the
    word "spunnel" for the smooth spot above the nose and between the
    brows.
    
    
1077.13SSAG::SNYDERSet your chickens freeThu Dec 02 1993 20:1211
>    Some schizophrenics invent words.  One I happen to know of invented the
>    word "spunnel" for the smooth spot above the nose and between the
>    brows.
    
    While I'm not sure I understand the relationship between schizophrenia
    and inventing words, I do know that "spunnel" is not the commonly
    accepted term.  The answer is:
    
    
    
    glabella
1077.14There's a form of schizophrenia called "hebephrenic"...DRDAN::KALIKOWRTFWFri Dec 03 1993 05:0515
    ... at least there was in the '60s taxonomy thereof.  Hebephrenic
    schizophrenics' major presenting symptom is that they speak what was
    called "word salad," i.e., utterances comprised of valid words with
    slim to no syntax underneath them.  I surmise that this might get down
    to the phonemic level in some similar cases, hence "spunnel."
    
    For a set of examples produced more contemporaneously, see the recent
    spate of entries in 255.*, Linguistic Tom Swifties.
    
    I'm having my medication re-titrated, and I hope to stop bothering you
    all real soon now.  I can't speak for the REST of you dopes who have
    followed me down the slippery slope...
    
    :-)
    
1077.15Gives me the hebejeebeesNOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Dec 03 1993 07:241
Isn't hebephrenic a Black English description of of an anxious man?
1077.16Refugees from 1007.*DRDAN::KALIKOWRTFWFri Dec 03 1993 07:293
    Nope, it be of a fella who believes that the study of head-bumps
    predicts personality traits.
    
1077.17Offensive note.SMURF::BINDERCum dignitate otiumFri Dec 03 1993 07:4052
    I have this lovely definition of hebephrenic, but it's terribly unPC. 
    If you're offended by ethnic slang, don't read on.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Hebephrenic describes a person whose head is shaped like a Jew's.
1077.18DRDAN::KALIKOWRTFWFri Dec 03 1993 07:586
    Very good!!  I had that first part in my sights already but couldn't
    work out a r�le for the "phrenic."
    
    ... Now I can return those particular cell assemblies that were working
    on that conundrum to more useful tasks.  We thank you for your support!
    
1077.19Back to the philtrum...SUPER::MATTHEWSMon Dec 06 1993 12:046
    My sister-in-law refers to the furrow on one's top lip as "Cupid's bow"
    -- is that the bonus answer to .0? She is a speech pathologist, so I
    presume that's the term she uses professionally (at least when talking
    to patients).
    
    					Val
1077.20NopeTLE::JBISHOPMon Dec 06 1993 13:115
    "Cupid's bow" refers to the line of the upper lip, which looks
    like an oriental-style bow.  See most representations of Cupid
    in Disney, etc.
    
    		-John Bishop