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Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

1069.0. "What are they really?" by REGENT::BROOMHEAD (Don't panic -- yet.) Tue Oct 05 1993 15:51

    In a book I just finished, the time is, oh, about the 25th century,
    and Our Hero asks for some information about an early emigration
    movement.  The groups involved, as translated to `modern' Terran, are:
    
    Khimir Reddish Face Cosmetic, Temil Large Striped Felines, New Council
    Men, Resurrected Aryan-Germanic Statewide Associationist Employees
    Party, Sons of Chaka, Luminescent Footway, and Darwin-Wilson Society.
    
    (At this point, Our Hero breaks up, laughing.  He's a bit of an
    historian, you see.)
    
    Some I get; some I don't.  The spelling I know I'm shaky on.  Care to
    do some guessing?
    
    Khimir Reddish Face Cosmetic	Khymer Rouge
    Temil Large Striped Felines		Tamil Tigers
    New Council Men			?
    Resurrected Aryan-Germanic Statewide Associationist Employees Party
    					Neo-Nazis ?
    Sons of Chaka			Chaka Khan ?
    Luminescent Footway			Shining Path
    Darwin-Wilson Society		?
    
    						Ann B.
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1069.1OKFINE::KENAHI���-) (���) {��^} {^�^} {���} /��\Wed Oct 06 1993 06:174
    Sons of Chaka are more likely the Sons of Chaka Zulu, an African
    hero, rather than Chaka Khan, a bodacious singer.
    
    					andrew
1069.2VIRTUE::TRUMPLERHelp prevent truth decay.Wed Oct 06 1993 07:316
    It's "Khmer Rouge."
    
    "New Council Men" might be (neo)Communists.
    
    What book is this from?
    Mark
1069.3More, please.REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Wed Oct 06 1993 12:029
    _The_City_Who_Fought_ by Anne McCaffrey and S. M. Stirling.  It's
    one of the brain-and-brawn stories.
    
    "Khmer" instead of "Khymer".  Okay.  I knew the original was wrong.
    (Did I get "Tamil" right?)
    
    "Chaka Zulu" -- I knew that.  I just went braindead again.
    
    						Ann B.
1069.4JIT081::DIAMOND$ SET MIDNIGHTWed Oct 06 1993 17:415
    I believe that both "Khmer" and "Khymer" are reasonable approximate
    transliterations of the correct spelling.  My keyboard doesn't
    support the correct characters.
    
    -- Norman Diamond
1069.5Another GuessRUMOR::WOOKPC::LEEWook like book with a WWed Oct 13 1993 12:031
Sons of Chaka = Inkata(sp?) Freedom Party?
1069.6GVPROD::BARTAGabriel Barta/ITOps&Mgmt/GenevaThu Oct 14 1993 10:1121
    New Council Men

Definitely neo-communists ("soviet" means "council").

    Resurrected Aryan-Germanic Statewide Associationist Employees Party

I'd also say Neo-Nazis, but the interesting question is where the
elements other than "Aryan-Germanic" come in.  Given that the Nazi
party was actually the "Nazionalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei
Deutschlands" (I think), i.e. the National-Socialist Workers' Party of
Germany, I'd guess that "Statewide" refers to "National",
"Associationist" refers to "Socialist", and "Employees" refers to
"Workers'". 

    Darwin-Wilson Society

This sounds like "survival of the fittest" (Darwin) combined with
"free enterprise" (Woodrow Wilson???), so my guess would be 
Thatcherist or Reaganite.  But that's just free association, and when 
someone discovers the real reference I'll say, "Of course, why didn't 
I think of that?".
1069.7Ants,Bees, and MeAKOCOA::MACDONALDMon Nov 08 1993 11:0611
    I bet that Wilson here is E.A. Wilson from Harvard, the
    socio-biologist. I  read a few articles of his along the
    way, and if my memory sreves me correctly, he espouses the view that
    human society is more like the society of say, an ant-colcony or a
    bee-hive than we might like to beleive, and that our individual 
    behavior is heavily modulated by our social systems. With this
    in mind, and admittedly stretching things, I propose that Darwin-Wilson 
    Party could translate to "Survivalist". However, even as I propose
    this, I think it is wrong. However, I will bet that the Wilson
    involved is E.A.
    
1069.8entomologistVAXUUM::T_PARMENTERWhite folks can't clapMon Nov 08 1993 13:294
"socio-biologist"?

Isn't he a bug man?

1069.9If *my* memory serves... re .7 ...DRDAN::KALIKOWI CyberSurf the Web on NCSA MosaicMon Nov 08 1993 14:244
    ... The Harvard bugman's name is E. O. Wilson.  Partially recalled
    because one of my elder daughters' roommates did her honors thesis
    while sitting at his feet (one presumes, all six of 'em).  :-)
    
1069.10see how they scurry aboutVAXUUM::T_PARMENTERWhite folks can't clapTue Nov 09 1993 05:253
Ah, yes.  I'm sure you're right.  I had this fantasy of a bug man 
waking up one morning with the insight that people are ants and then
changing his specialty immediately from entomology to socio-biology.
1069.11... or the other way around.REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue Nov 09 1993 09:060