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Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

1053.0. "Help sought: need a quote & its author" by CALLME::MR_TOPAZ () Wed Jun 30 1993 06:34

       I'm trying to find an accurate rendition of a quote, possibly by
       Oscar Wilde, describing second marriages as something like "the
       triumph of optimism over reason and experience," give or take a
       few words.  All help is, of course, deeply appreciated.
       
       --Mr Topaz
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1053.1VMSMKT::KENAHEscapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,MiraclesWed Jun 30 1993 07:501
    Can we assume you've checked the usual sources?
1053.2FORTY2::KNOWLESDECspell snot awl ewe kneedWed Jun 30 1993 08:223
    Rings a bell. I think it's in ODQ�. I'll look it up tonight.
    
    b
1053.3CALLME::MR_TOPAZWed Jun 30 1993 08:5415
       re .1:
       
       No.  I don't own a Bartlett's, and I don't know where my local
       library is.  Even if I did know, the opening hours are probably
       from 9-11 am Tuesdays and Wednesdays, because of budget cutbacks.
       
       I couldn't find the quote anywhere in the VMS doc set (I think
       it's V3.0 that I have in my office), in the ISO/IEC POSIX 1003.1
       standard, or in the latest organizational announcements for my
       group.
       
       I am, as is so often the case, relying on the kindness of
       strangers and stranges.
       
       --Mr Topaz
1053.4VMSMKT::KENAHEscapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,MiraclesWed Jun 30 1993 09:297
    >   No.  I don't own a Bartlett's, and I don't know where my local
    >   library is.  Even if I did know, the opening hours are probably
    >   from 9-11 am Tuesdays and Wednesdays, because of budget cutbacks.
    
    ZK1-3 -- it has a copy of Bartlett's, and it's open even as we speak.
    
    					andrew
1053.5(like the joke about the mathematician and the fire)TLE::JBISHOPWed Jun 30 1993 11:545
    "Triumph of hope over experience" is how I remember it.
    
    So Andrew, why didn't you look it up and tell us?
    
    		-John Bishop
1053.6VMSMKT::KENAHEscapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,MiraclesWed Jun 30 1993 13:281
    I might...
1053.8Dr. Samuel JohnsonMU::PORTERdatapanikWed Jun 30 1993 21:178
    re .0
    
    "A gentleman who had been very unhappy in marriage, married 
     immediately after his wife died: Johnson said, it was the
     triumph of hope over experience."
    
    Boswell's "Life of Johnson".
    
1053.9CALLME::MR_TOPAZThu Jul 01 1993 05:526
       
       re .8:
       
       Thank you.
       
       --Mr Topaz
1053.10bon mot, not general verityFORTY2::KNOWLESDECspell snot awl ewe kneedMon Jul 05 1993 07:118
    And Dr Johnson was talking about a particular man, so he wasn't saying
    - generally - that getting married a second time exemplified the
    triumph of hope over experience (although it's conceivable that he may
    have _thought_ that), but that in a particular instance  (where one man
    had been unhappily married before - I forget the details, but I've got
    them at home) it was surprising he should marry again.
    
    b