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982.1 | It's almost OK | PAOIS::HILL | An immigrant in Paris | Wed Jul 01 1992 06:18 | 5 |
| I think any discussion of the phrase "nearly unique" should be with the
other discussion of such oxymorons as military intelligence and civil
service.
Nick
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982.2 | | MYCRFT::PARODI | John H. Parodi | Wed Jul 01 1992 06:29 | 15 |
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I don't think "nearly unique" is all that bad, and I reason as follows.
Something is either unique or it isn't, but there are situations where
the state of uniqueness is approached. E.g., someday there may well be
a single living elephant or rhino. At that point the animal will be
unique, but before that it is nearly unique.
Similarly, a thing is either ubiquitous or it isn't, but I wouldn't
object to the phrase "nearly ubiquitous."
So nearly unique simply means "almost one of a kind" and is not nearly
as annoying a phrase as "very unique" or "slightly unique," etc.
JP
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982.3 | Ubiquitous unique pregnancies? | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Wed Jul 01 1992 07:47 | 2 |
| Is this like "slightly pregnant", "nearly pregnant", "very
pregnant"?
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982.4 | | SMURF::SMURF::BINDER | Rem ratam agite | Wed Jul 01 1992 07:53 | 4 |
| I would use "uncommon" or "extremely rare" or similar phraseology in
lieu of "nearly unique."
-dick
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982.5 | | ULYSSE::WADE | | Wed Jul 01 1992 07:57 | 5 |
| >> Ref .0
>> Is it correct to describe something as being "nearly unique"?
It is almost correct.
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982.6 | | MYCRFT::PARODI | John H. Parodi | Wed Jul 01 1992 09:23 | 14 |
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Slightly pregnant seems wrong. Very pregnant seems right (ask a woman
in her eighth month if she's very pregnant, and she'll probably say
yes, especially if the eighth month is August). Nearly pregnant is a
possibility:
<warning: what may be interpreted as sexist humor follows formfeed>
A handsome member of the Ski Patrol treats a woman's broken ankle and
loads her onto the stretcher/sled. He says, "You know, you may be the
fourth pregnant woman I've taken down off this mountain today." Woman
says, "I'm not pregnant!" Ski Patroller says, "You're not down off the
mountain yet, either."
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982.7 | | JIT081::DIAMOND | bad wiring. That was probably it. Very bad. | Wed Jul 01 1992 18:50 | 15 |
| Sometimes an idea, invention, etc., is described as "unique," not meaning
that there's only one idea or invention, etc., but just indicating extreme
creativity or unusualness. In other words, I think "unique" doesn't have
a unique meaning, and one of its meanings can properly be modified by
"nearly," "very," etc.
Well, although "unique" doesn't have a unique meaning, one of its meanings
is unique, so it has both one unique meaning and one less unique meaning.
[I don't think the joke in .6 was sexist. "Nearly sexist" maybe....
If anyone wishes to dispute this opinion, please stick to the actual
opinion that I expressed, rather than presuming opinions on a nearly but
not quite identical topic, as has sometimes happened in this notesfile.]
-- Norman Diamond
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982.8 | Like totally unique, you know? | SHALOT::ANDERSON | Stale Vestige of a Bygone Era | Mon Jul 06 1992 07:54 | 31 |
| Unique has the literal meaning "one of a kind" only in Latin.
Here are the definitions of "unique" in Webster's 9th
Collegiate:
o sole
o unequaled
o distinctively characteristic
o unusual
And here's what they say about it:
Many commentators have objected to the comparison
or modification of "unique"; the statement that a
thing is either unique or it is not has often been
repeated by them. Objections are based chiefly on
the assumption that "unique" has but a single
absolute sense, an assumption contradited by
information readily available in any dictionary
... Around the middle of the 19th century, it
ceased to be considered foreign and came into
considerable popular use. With popular use came a
broadening of application beyond the original two
meanings. In modern use both comparison and
modification are widespread and standard but are
confined to [the second two meanings]. When [the
first two senses are] intended, "unique is used
without qualifying modifiers.
I'll spare you the definition of "one of a kind."
-- Cliff
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982.9 | | MARVIN::KNOWLES | Caveat vendor | Tue Jul 07 1992 05:54 | 4 |
| `One of a kind' means `absolutely unique', of course.
b
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982.10 | Allah willing... | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Tue Jul 07 1992 06:24 | 2 |
| No. It means "as unique as possible, given the current world
economy".
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