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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

916.0. ""This" vs "Next?"" by POBOX::WIECHMANN (Short to, long through.) Wed Sep 25 1991 00:16

	When does next Thursday become this Thursday?

	Are they ever the same day?

	-Jim
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916.1JIT081::DIAMONDOrder temporarily out of personal nameWed Sep 25 1991 08:0414
In some dialects, next Thursday and this Thursday are always the same day.
One can only assume that in the other dialects, they are never the same
day, and promotion occurs at midnight between Wednesday and Thursday
(when this Thursday becomes today).

Next confusion was originally imported into the English language from a
translation of signs in Tokyo subways:
    ����ɤ��ż�  <destination>
    �Ĥ����ż�    <destination>
in which ����� (kondo) and �Ĥ� (tsugi) both mean next, though of course
the first one is sometimes this, and the other one is nexter.
(A visitor from Kyoto did indeed laugh when she first saw those signs.)

-- Norman Diamond
916.2MCIS5::WOOLNERPhotographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and denseWed Sep 25 1991 17:058
        W     TH     F    SA   SU   M    TU   W       TH
     Today  tomorrow                              "a week from tomorrow"
             and "this"                           "a week from Thursday"
             and "next"	                          "Thursday of next week"*
    
    *I think that across the pond they also say "Thursday week"
    
    Leslie
916.3KAOFS::S_BROOKWed Sep 25 1991 20:4316
This does seem to vary DRAMATICALLY, depending on where you are ...

To me ...

Next Thursday is the Thursday in the next calendar week (don't ask me if it
starts on Sunday or Monday ... take your choice!). Even if it's Friday.

This Thursday is the Thursday in the current calendar week, unless it's
Friday or Saturday, whereupon This and Next become synonymous!

Thursday Next is synonymous with Next Thursday.

Thursday Week is one week after the next occuring Thursday (including today
if it's Thursday today) ...) Thus it can be 1 - 2 weeks ahead.

Stuart
916.4It varies too much to depend onMINAR::BISHOPWed Sep 25 1991 21:1511
    As others have said, it varies.  My system is that "this" and "next"
    are the first Thursday you come to going forward in time.  My wife's
    system is more like that of .3.
    
    We had some not-so-funny problems scheduling things until this got
    straightened out.  So I've since made it a rule to always schedule
    things by date, rather than "this" and "next", just as I've made it
    a rule to say "correct" or "yes" rather than "right" in conversations
    about directions.
    
    		-John Bishop
916.5"next" Thurs being, say, 9 days away...MCIS5::WOOLNERPhotographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and denseFri Sep 27 1991 06:394
    ... reminds me of giving directions to a preschooler.  "Turn left,
    Alex.  No, no, your *other* left!"
    
    Leslie
916.6quite late but still catching up!CALS::GELINEAUTue Dec 14 1993 13:108
	I find that I use "this" to refer to any day during the current
	(Sunday through Saturday) week.  For example, today is Tuesday,
	December 14.  If I told someone what I did yesterday, I would 
	probably say, "This Monday I...."  "This Thursday" refers
	to December 16.  "Next Thursday" refers to December 23.

	--angela