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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

899.0. "Thanks in advance..." by VAXWRK::MEYER (ALS Development Mgr 223-6897) Wed Jul 03 1991 17:10

    What is the proper etiquette and correct phrase for the
    following situation:
    
    When I write memos, I am often asking someone to take some
    kind of action: "please forward your response to me no later..",
    "..please contact me if..." and so on.
    
    I usually close by writing "Thanks in advance for your prompt
    attention to this..", or "Thank you in advance.", or "Thank you
    in advance for your anticipated prompt attention.." but this 
    seems awkward.  I guess what seems awkward is that I am thanking
    them for something they have not agreed to do.
    
    Is there a more elegant way?
    
    Thanks in advance  ;^)
    
    Chris.
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899.1Often works for me ...ULYSSE::WADEWed Jul 03 1991 17:5615
	I use the following formula in such cases ....

		1 Ask them (as you do) "Please do <whatever> ..."
					^^^^^^
		2 State why their action is needed and the reason 
		  for any deadline
	
		3 Suggest they call/mail me if anything is unclear
		  or they need help

		4 End with just `Thanks'

	Works every time.  What did you say?  Well, not *every* time  :-)

	Jim
899.2SMURF::CALIPH::binderSimplicitas gratia simplicitatisWed Jul 03 1991 19:5912
I've always considered "thanks in advance" poor form.  In my opinion it
is semantically meaningless; since you have actually received nothing
and cannot count on receipt, it is in effect thanking the reader for
nothing.  What makes it worse is that it implies to me a certain degree
of guilt imposition:  "I've thanked you for doing something for me, so
now you'll feel terribly guilty if you fail to do it."

I always end formal letters of request with "Thank you for your
consideration in this matter."  This phrasing is fair because the reader
has in fact given your letter enough consideration to read it.

-d
899.3JIT081::DIAMONDThis note is illegal tender.Thu Jul 04 1991 03:1913
    I have often used "Thank you for your understanding," which is close
    enough to "... consideration."
    
    If you have the right to demand the reader's attention, and want to
    make a point of it, you can say "Thank you for your prompt attention,"
    and not have to point out that it is in advance.  However, if you are
    merely begging for a favor and don't have the right, then this wording
    would probably be offensive.
    
    (I understand that in Japanese, to say "thank you" in a request, in any
    form, in advance is offensive; you have to say "I beg you.")
    
    -- Norman Diamond
899.4Just one person's viewSTAR::CANTORIM2BZ2PThu Jul 04 1991 05:5410
I've always been offended by people thanking me for doing something I
haven't yet done, when, in fact, they are asking me to do it, and I
haven't yet agreed.   (If I've agreed, then I don't get offended by
thanks.)  I perceive thanks in advance as someone trying to coerce me,
rather than just ask me.   I prefer to be just asked, or just ordered.
If ordered, I *really* get offended by being thanked.

Overpoliteness is overbearing.

Dave C.
899.5It's a matter of personal preference...PAOIS::HILLAnother migrant worker!Thu Jul 04 1991 12:1727
    Which probably doesn't help you much!
    
    My preferences when recieving a request like this are:
    
    1  Start with a 'Please...'
    
       If you're asking me to do something which is difficult, time 
       consuming, dangerous or whatever, the 'Please' at the end is very 
       weak.
    
    2  Use 'Please will you...'
    
       If you start a tricky one with 'Please can you....' then my 
       perverse mental reaction is 'I can, but I won't'.  This mayy even 
       be re-engineered and put into my response.
    
    3  Tell me why.
    
       Describe the situation for me and lead me with you to the 
       inevitable conclusion that I will do it for you.
    
    4  Thank me for my time.
    
       If the task is really onerous I may think it just too 
       presumptuous to be thanked for doing it before I've agreed.
    
    Nick
899.6another problemSHALOT::ANDERSONNot Sold in StoresMon Jul 08 1991 23:179
	This particular phrase grates on my ears for another reason ...
	It has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase, but rather
	with its boilerplate (i.e., cliche) flavor.  I don't even think
	I process this phrase -- it's just padding like "should you have
	any further questions, do not hesitate to give me a call," "I 
	look forward to hearing from you," etc., etc.  My suggestion
	would be to just say what you want in a sincere, lucid manner.
	
		-- C
899.7I18N::SZETOSimon Szeto, International Sys. Eng.Fri Aug 16 1991 06:095
    "Thanks in advance" is not one of my favorites, but what really
    irritates me is seeing it written as "advTHANKSance."
    
    --Simon
    
899.8JIT081::DIAMONDOrder temporarily out of personal nameMon Aug 19 1991 03:394
    >what really irritates me is seeing it written as "advTHANKSance."
    
    Well, I think that pun is a bit childish.  But if the pun really
    irritates you, how can you stand reading this conference??????
899.9hunh?PENUTS::DDESMAISONSTue Aug 20 1991 17:5313
    >>what really irritates me is seeing it written as "advTHANKSance."
    
      >>  Well, I think that pun is a bit childish.  But if the pun really
      >>  irritates you, how can you stand reading this conference??????


	Simon, I'm with you.  I find that one particularly irritating
	too.  It has no bearing on whether or not I can stand reading
	this conference, by the way.

	Diane