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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

843.0. "Stalking horse??!!" by CHEST::ELLIOT () Thu Nov 29 1990 13:19

	Over the course of the last couple of weeks, while the battle
	for leadership of the Tory party has been going on in the
	UK, I've heard Michael Heseltine referred to several times as a 
	'stalking horse'. I haven't the faintest idea what this means.

	Anyone out there know what this expression means, and its
	derivation?

	Someone PLEASE explain, it's bugging me!

	June.
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843.1loss leaderMARVIN::KNOWLESPer ardua ad nauseamThu Nov 29 1990 13:466
    A stalking horse is a cheap victim, sacrificed to lure a more valuable
    prize into a more vulnerable position. The expression comes from
    hunting - tho' I'm not sure what sort; probably big game hunting
    (India - British Empire days I'd guess).
    
    b
843.2It's Deja Vu All Over Again.SKIVT::ROGERSSalvandorum paucitus.Thu Nov 29 1990 14:1714
Webster's New Collegiate says that a stalking-horse is:

	1. A horse or figure like a horse behind which a hunter stalks
	   game.  2. Something used to mask a purpose.  3. A candidate put
	   forward to divide the opposition or to conceal someone's real
	   candidacy.

Presumably Mr. Heseltine is being referred to in the third sense of the
definition. 

(See topic 679, for a further discussion of Stalking Horses, Straw Men, and
Straw Horses.) 

Larry
843.3when you don't have an elephant gun handyTLE::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanThu Nov 29 1990 15:5211
    The original stalking horse was a horse tied out to graze in a
    place where large dangerous carnivorous animals will catch the
    horse's scent and come for dinner.  Concealed hunters can then
    kill the large dangerous carnivore with less danger to themselves.  
    
    I was under the impression that it originated in Africa in the
    days before firearms as a technique for trapping old, dangerous
    lions that had started eating people.  But I'm far from positive
    on that. 
    
    --bonnie
843.4VOGON::BALLMaggie, Maggie, Maggie *IS* out, out, out...Thu Nov 29 1990 16:0013
I've read a fuller explanation of its original hunting derivation in one of the 
half dozen conferences which have been discussing the Tory Leadership election
and the aftermath thereof.

Apparently, the hunters used to leave a horse in a position where it would be
visible to the pray, so that if the animal heard the hunters clumping about in
the undergrowth, snapping twigs and so on, it would assume these noises were 
being made by the horse and so would not scarper.

Hence, a political stalking horse (Heseltine) declares early and provides cover
for the hunter (Major) to shoot his intended victim (Thatcher).

Jon
843.5HEART::MACHINThu Nov 29 1990 17:342
    
     -- and Douglas Hurd was a twig that got snapped underfoot.
843.6ThanksCHEST::ELLIOTFri Nov 30 1990 17:388
    Thanks, all, my mind is now at rest!

    (Re the last, love it)  :-) :-)
    
    Cheers,

    June.