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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

798.0. "Please define...." by UILA::WHORLOW (D R A B C = action plan) Wed May 16 1990 10:26

    G'day,
    
     In a recent discussion, the work 'Token' was, I felt, being mis-used.
    It had been used as a name for an embedded command within a data
    stream. I felt that Token implied a your turn, my turn indicator. So
    what is needed is a better word than token. 
    
    I searched through the thesaurus and with various associations came
    upon the word 
    
     enclitic.
    
    Aha here's a nice word, I thought. I wonder what it means, exactly.
     The dictionary was less than forthcoming with good examples, though it
    did say it was an adjective. I wondered what the noun might be...
     
    Can anyone help? 
    
    
    Derek
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798.1the noun might be 'enclit' but it sounds naughtyLEZAH::BOBBITTwe washed our hearts with laughterWed May 16 1990 18:028
    The dictionary I have mentions it's a word that "leans on" another word
    and isn't really independent.  They say it's like the "thee" in
    "prithee", and the "not" in "cannot".
    
    Does that help?
    
    -Jody
798.2it *is* a nounXANADU::RECKARDJon Reckard, 381-0878, ZKO3-2/T63Wed May 16 1990 19:579
Well, *my* dictionary lists a noun:
    adj.   1 (of a word) closely connected with the preceding word and not
             having an independent accent or phonological status.
    n.     2 an enclitic word, as Latin _que_ "and" in _arma virumque_,
             "arms and the man".
_The Random House Dictionary of the English Language, College Edition_
(none but the best on *my* desk!)

Now, what was the question?
798.3is a loggia an enclitic structure?UILA::WHORLOWD R A B C = action planThu May 17 1990 02:3221
    G'day,
    
    'sfunny that!
    the definition in -.1 is identical even to the example and the
    parenthetic comment in our Macquarie Australian dictionary, but gives
    it as an adjective.
    
    Webster however gives the example  'em in "Give 'em the works" as being
    enclitic , but says it is a noun!
    
    We wonder how the students at the training course will take to being
    told about in-band and out-of-band enclitics....
    
    
    ........... and yes it does sound naughty.....
    
    
    derek