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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

724.0. "Two U's <gasp!>" by PEKING::AMANNP (Flat like this :___ ) Wed Sep 27 1989 19:06

    Just discovered the second word with two adjacent U's in it that
    I have found to exist in the English language.
    
    The first that I knew of was vacuum.
    
    There is another continuum (as in space/time)
    
    I guess that the principle objection of purists to double u's is
    that they sound like w's when spelt out.
    
    Paul
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724.1COOKIE::DEVINEBob Devine, CXNWed Sep 27 1989 23:271
    There's also "residuum".
724.2uumKAOFS::S_BROOKHere today and here again tomorrowWed Sep 27 1989 23:409
    Interesting too ...
    
    vacuum is pronounced vac-youm
    
    whereas continuum is pronounced contin-you-um
    
    so maybe should be spelled contin�um to indicate that the letters
    should be pronounced individually
    
724.3I know I'll never find another 'u'.PROXY::CANTORHide, Cecil, here comes Uncle Captain!Thu Sep 28 1989 07:377
Re .2

Shouldn't the mark be on the second vowel of the pair?  

I've heard 'vacuum' pronounced as vac-you-um, too.

Dave C.
724.4When I walk through that door 'u''ll be my guideKAOFS::S_BROOKHere today and here again tomorrowFri Sep 29 1989 21:4016
    re .3
    
    I suppose it should really, but I always treat the umlaut as meaning
    "for this vowel pair, pronounce them separately", so it then doesn't
    matter which it goes on.
    
    Anyway, I prefer the look of
    
    contin�um
    
    to
    
    continu�m
    
    
    
724.5Dieresis, not umlautMINAR::BISHOPFri Sep 29 1989 23:4510
    Umlaut is used to front a back vowel (o to �, u to �), or
    to back a front vowel (i to �).  German and Turkish use
    umlaut (to chose only two examples).
    
    Dieresis is used to cause two vowels in sequence to be
    pronounces as two syllables, rather than as a diphthong
    (e.g. na�ve).  English and French (among others) use
    dieresis.
    
        			-John Bishop
724.6KAOFS::S_BROOKHere today and here again tomorrowMon Oct 02 1989 17:348
    picky, picky .....
    
    I was just referring to the mark, not the process, and therefore
    feel that I could call the mark fred if that described it.  So for
    those circumstances, of just describing the mark, umlaut or dieresis
    (or should that be di�resis ?) should be just fine.
    
    Stuart
724.7lituumFDCV06::BEAIRSTOWed Oct 04 1989 20:193
    ...from the last page of 'The Atlantic' a few months back. I don't have
    the magazine or an unabridged dictionary handy now, but as I recall it
    was a magic wand. 
724.8FWIWCALS::GELINEAUMon Oct 18 1993 10:1613
 
 FWIW,
	As a physics major I pronounced 'vacuum' as vac-u-um (when referring
	to space devoid of matter) but as vak-yoom (when referring to the
	machine). 

	Don't know why - maybe transference from my professors caused the
	former pronunciation.  As a child I always used the latter pronunciation.

	Rather odd (especially considering that a vac-u-um is needed
	to make a vak-yoom cleaner).

--angela
724.9JIT081::DIAMOND$ SET MIDNIGHTMon Oct 18 1993 18:096
    >Rather odd (especially considering that a vac-u-um is needed
    >to make a vak-yoom cleaner).
    
    That's rather odd.  I thought that a vak-yoom cleaner was needed
    to make a vac-u-um, though a vac-u-um was needed to make a
    vac-yoom cleaner clean.
724.10SMURF::BINDERVita venit sine tituloTue Oct 19 1993 07:191
    My vac-yoom cleaner isn't dirty.  Do I need a vac-u-um anyway?
724.11CALS::DESELMSVincer�!Tue Oct 19 1993 07:554
    Why would you need a vacuum cleaner if by definition a vacuum is devoid of
    dirt?

    - Jim
724.12SMURF::BINDERVita venit sine tituloTue Oct 19 1993 08:531
    Do we hafta take devoid of dis crumb?
724.13MU::PORTERcool runningsMon Oct 25 1993 11:341
Nature abhors a vacuum cleaner.
724.14JIT081::DIAMOND$ SET MIDNIGHTMon Oct 25 1993 16:104
    VAX sucks.
    
    (Or to be politically correct, VAX[tm] machines suck,
    as long as you associate the trademark correctly.)
724.15note nodenameVAXUUM::T_PARMENTERThe cake of libertyTue Oct 26 1993 05:382
    Others are RAGMOP, CLOSET, CLUTTR . . .