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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

721.0. "Most Ambiguous Sentence" by SHALOT::ANDERSON (Give me a U, give me a T...) Mon Sep 18 1989 20:33

	Found the following headline the other day:

		SOUTHERN MISS RIFLE HITTING TARGETS	

	This has got to be the most ambiguous sentence I have ever come
	across.  Let's get a note started on all the possible meanings
	this might have.  When we've beat it to death, I'll include the
	real meaning.

		-- Cliff
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721.1AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoMon Sep 18 1989 21:184
	    subject     	predicate
	    /     \		/     |   \
	adjective noun	     adverb  verb  object
	Southern  miss	     rifle  hitting   targets
721.2SHARE::SATOWMon Sep 18 1989 21:4917
Actually, not a sentence.  Phrase.  No verb.  "Hitting" not verb by itself.  
If "miss" verb, sentence not meaningful.  Newspaper headlines great for 
omitting verbs.  




Now for my guess;

[The] SOUTHERN MISS[issippi University] RIFLE [team is] HITTING [the] TARGETS
[when they shoot their rifles].

I think newspaper headlines are fun.  Why don't we retitle this not "Ambiguous 
Newspaper Headlines".


Clay
721.3Re .1SHALOT::ANDERSONGive me a U, give me a T...Mon Sep 18 1989 21:5219
	Not sure I follow you.  Could you explain what the possible
	*meaning* of your diagrammed sentence might be.  For example:

		adjective noun noun  verb    object
		Southern  Miss Rifle hitting targets
	
	could be that the winner of the Miss Rifle contest (Southern 
	division) is a pretty good shot.  Or:

		noun      verb - adjective - noun
		Southern  miss rifle-hitting targets

	could mean that Southern (the university, say) really long and
	pine for those targets that they used to hit rifles with (whatever 
	they may be -- this doesn't have to make sense).

	Get it?  Oh, never mind ...

		-- Cliff
721.4Lueutenant! This stack of targets has been rifled through ...LESCOM::KALLISTime takes things.Mon Sep 18 1989 21:5911
    Re SOUTHERN MISS RIFLE HITTING TARGETS:
    
    Gee!  I thought it meant that a a rifle belonging to a daughter
    of the old South (Dixie, that is) had become accurate.
    
    It might also mean that the actress, Ann Southern, regrets losing
    (or giving away?  Selling?) a bunch of targets used in rifle practice
    (the "miss" rather than "misses" because the editor got mixed up
    on what the subject of the headline was).
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr. 
721.5Another WAG!GRNDAD::STONERoyTue Sep 19 1989 00:355
    
    Borrowing from an earlier reply, perhaps it means that the
    Southern Miss. (team?) stole the hitting-targets.
    
    
721.6CNTROL::HENRIKSONIsSamDonaldsonSpock'sBrotherHeNeverTalksAbout?Tue Sep 19 1989 02:167
    Re: SOUTHERN MISS RIFLE HITTING TARGETS:
    
I thought it to mean that a company had produced a new model rifle called the
'Southern Miss' which was meeting their projected sales curve.

Pete
721.7AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoTue Sep 19 1989 05:155
        re .3,
        
        Read .1 as if "rifle hitting" was some kind of hitting.
        
        Dan
721.8moreGLIVET::RECKARDJon Reckard, 381-0878, ZKO3-2/T63Tue Sep 19 1989 14:278
SOUTHERN MISS RIFLE HITTING TARGETS:
    
Also:  the NRA has regional Miss Rifle beauty contests.  The winner of the
south regional contest is hitting some target or other.

Also also:  a lass from the south has had her picture posted on various
rifle shoot targets - "targets" being the only noun, the rest comprising one
adjectival ... uhhh ... thing.
721.9another one...IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeTue Sep 19 1989 19:1911
		SOUTHERN MISS RIFLE HITTING TARGETS	

The southern (group? people? team?) do not have a rifle that is hitting targets;
supposedly they only have rifles that do *not* hit targets.

(suggestion: why don't they define the rest of the world, so everything without
the target, as "target". In that case, they will be right on target, with the
rifles they have. Right? Oh... never mind....;-))

Arie
721.10morePOOL::TRUMPLERThiotimoline sold hereTue Sep 19 1989 19:2715
    Not sure if these are on the list:
    
    The Southern once had targets used for the sport of rifle hitting.
    
    The Southern once had targets that hit rifles.
    
    Re suggestion in .9:
    
    Question: How do you catch a wild animal?
    
    Answer: Build a fence around yourself, and do a mathematical
    set-complement operation.  "Inside" the fence now contains the wild
    animal you want (and probably a few others...).
    
    >M
721.11AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoTue Sep 19 1989 19:313
        So how many meanings does the sentence have in Dutch? :-)
        
        Dan
721.12some more.... ;-)IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeTue Sep 19 1989 19:3911
RE .11
>        So how many meanings does the sentence have in Dutch? :-)
        
Well... we get some extra when I translate word for word, and translate back...
One of them being:

   Southern fog gun significant goals.

Is this what you wanted to know, Dan ? :-);-)

Arie
721.13And another oneVISA::BIJAOUIBest before November 1989Tue Sep 19 1989 20:355
    Miss Rifle (Understand it like Miss Universe, or Miss America, - what are 
    her features) from the South is hitting targets (what sort of targets ?).
    
    
    Pierre.
721.14Off on a tangent...GRNDAD::STONERoyTue Sep 19 1989 22:1511
    
    This has nothing to do with Miss Rifle, but is in response to
    the question posed in .10
    
    How do you catch a polar bear?
    
    
    
    You cut a hole in the ice and make a circle of peas around the hole.
    Then when the polar bear goes to take a pea you kick him in the
    ice-hole!
721.15I am still not clear about who rifled what...PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseSat Sep 23 1989 19:141
    
721.16It's a Sports headline, right?SSGBPM::KENAHHaunted by demons who stole my soulMon Sep 25 1989 21:477
    I betcha I know what the headline writer really meant!
    
    
    
    The quarterback of the Southern Mississippi football team, who has
    a very strong throwing arm, is now throwing passes that are being
    caught.
721.17It's military! No, it's EconomicREVEAL::LEEWook... Like 'Book' with a 'W'Wed Sep 27 1989 23:118
It means the Southern Mississippi Rifle Battalion is improving their aim.

or

It means the Southern Mississippi Rifle company is returning profits in line 
with last years projections.

Actually, I think the sports one in on target.
721.18We Have a WinnerSHALOT::ANDERSONGive me a U, give me a T...Fri Sep 29 1989 22:1011
	.16 wins the prize!  Yes, the article was in _The Sporting
	News_ and was about the SMU QB (forget his name).  Yes, he
	was throwing passes that were being caught, but the gist of
	the article was that he had been trained in a running-style
	offense, finally got a chance to throw, and was now blossoming 
	as a passer as well.

		-- Cliff

	P.S.  Special prize to whoever knows this guy's name.

721.19But what about the northern Miss Rifle?CLUSTA::BINNSWed Nov 01 1989 16:406
    My guess before reading the preceding answers:
    
    This newspaper is shilling the local appearance of the young woman
    who has been chosen "Southern Miss Rifle" for this year
    
    Kit
721.20TKOV51::DIAMONDThis note is illegal tender.Wed Jun 27 1990 08:0610
    > Southern Miss Rifle Hitting Targets
    
    Some former employees of a British company used to hit rifles.
    However, the RSPCR (Royal Society for Prevention of Cruelty to
    Rifles) learned about these evil people, threatened to prosecute,
    and undertook a vicious publicity campaign.  The targets of this
    campaign figured they'd better leave town.  Their employer, which
    are treated as a plural form in English [now you know why they
    were specified as a British company], can't get anything done
    without them.