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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

615.0. "A Trying Question" by DRUMS::FEHSKENS () Mon Jan 23 1989 18:10

    Well, which is correct (or more correct, if that's meaningful):
    
    	try *to* do something, or
    
    	try *and* do something?
    
    "Try to ..." seems preferable to me.  Why is "try and ..." so common?
    
               
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615.1I'll try and do an answerWELMTS::HILLMon Jan 23 1989 18:5513
    I don't think either is more correct...
    
    Try *to* do... makes the statement that an attempt took place,
    
    Try *and* do... elaborates the statement by indicating that it was
    		    successful.
    
    Each phrase has its place.
    
    Unfortunately some people treat them as synonyms, which helps cause
    confusion, whilst others get caught in the style discussion!

    Nick :-)    
615.2try toIOSG::LAWMModeration with moderation.Tue Jan 24 1989 11:3612
    
    Try *to* <verb> is more correct, and should be used in formal writing.
    The `to' comes from the infinitive form of the verb.
    
    However, I must confess that I am guilty of using `try and ...'
    on occasion.  I'll just have to try and stop!  (I would normally
    have used `to' there, because it sounds better ...)
    
    Mat.
    *:o)
    
    PS  I'm not sure what you mean Nick...? (re .-1)
615.3I'll try and explain .....IOSG::ROBERTSNot worrying, being happy....Tue Jan 24 1989 13:3315
    Hmm.. curioser and curiouser...
    
    I'd have said that 'try *to* do smthg' indicated that the speaker
    was simply about to attempt something, not knowing the outcome at
    all. Whereas 'try *and* ...' could imply that the speaker has some
    level of belief that the attempt will either be successful, or that
    the result is more important than if s/he had used '*to*'... So,
    '*and*' could be used to stress the result of 'try'?
    
    This is not meant to be prescriptive, just a possible observation
    of the way some folks use the language... By the way, I nearly always
    user '*and*', but that's probably because I can't be bothered lifting
    up my tongue to produce that annoying 't' sound... 8-)
    
    R|tch^d