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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

515.0. "how is Walesa pronounced?" by FULLER::ROM (To err is human, to moo bovine) Tue May 03 1988 20:27


	Hi! I am not sure whether this is the right place for this
	note. I have just started following this conference and enjoy
	it a lot and I think that the knowledge out there might be able
	to answer a question that has been bugging me for years:

	How is Lech Walesa's last name pronounced? 

	He the leader of the Solidarity movement in Poland. For years,
	commentators have been finding an "n" in his last name. They pronounce
	it va-LEN-sa. IS THIS CORRECT? Can't they do the man the courtesy
	of getting his name right?

	Thanks for letting me get this off my chest!
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515.1Vah-WEN-zah is also pretty goodLOV::LASHERWorking...Wed May 04 1988 02:4110
    It's close.  If you look closely, there's a little backwards cedilla
    (sorry, someone here must know the correct term) under the e, which
    makes for a nasalized e sound.
    
    You can also get away with pronouncing the "l" in Walesa like a
    "w" in English, because if you look closely you'll see a little
    slash mark (again, someone here undoubtedly knows the correct name
    for this diacritical) through the "l".
    
Lew Lasher
515.2...not in Gleb, though!IPG::CARLILLDada wouldn't buy me a BauhausTue May 31 1988 22:5015
>   It's close.  If you look closely, there's a little backwards cedilla
>   (sorry, someone here must know the correct term) under the e, which
>   makes for a nasalized e sound.
    
Not always as nasalized as in Walesa, however.  In Gleb (as in Cardinal Gleb,
with a backwards cedilla under the e), this diacritical has the effect of
introducing an [m] sound before the final [p], rather than producing a very
nasalized [e], giving [glemp].  I believe that 'e' with a backwards cedilla
and 'a' with a backwards cedilla tend to be very nasalized nowadays mainly
before fricatives, and not elsewhere.

I'm quite prepared to be corrected on this, since my Polish is basic and
rusty!

Ceri