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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

435.0. "Red Sox" by GLIVET::RECKARD (Jon Reckard 264-7710) Tue Nov 17 1987 12:48

Dear Abby,

    Please settle a bet.  What is ONE player on the Boston Red Sox called?
A Red Sox?  Or a Red Sock?

Concerned fan
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435.1NeitherSUPER::KENAHROCK-> You are here <-HARD_PLACETue Nov 17 1987 18:2917
    Neither -- Red Sox is used as an adjective, as in:             
    
    Red Sox third baseman Wade Boggs.
                                                   
    
    
    
    A friend of mine told me a story about the '86 series.  He was watching
    the game in a tavern in semi-rural Massachusetts... he's from New
    York, so he was rooting (quietly) for the Mets.  He enjoyed listening
    to the locals' descriptions of the players.
                                        
    In the first inning, MacNamara was a "genius", and Bill Buckner
    was a "gamer."
    
    By the ninth, Mac was "that bleepin' mick b*stahd",
    and Buckner was "that bleepin' crippled b*stahd"!
435.2Possessive nounCLT::WIECHMANNJim the WarriorWed Nov 18 1987 08:3711
    I always thought of that as a posessive noun:

    Red Sox' third baseman Wade Boggs.

    Brewers' third baseman Paul Molitor.

    Maybe this should go in the note on phrases that look weird when you 
    write them . . . .

    -Jim
435.3HOMSIC::DUDEKCall me Dr. BrevityWed Nov 18 1987 10:396
    Grammatically, I don't think one would be best advised to "take
    the word" of sports announcers.
    
    (little pun there, eh?)
    
    Spd
435.4Lone SoxmanCHIC::PETERSE Unibus PlurumWed Nov 18 1987 10:4313
>    Please settle a bet.  What is ONE player on the Boston Red Sox called?
>A Red Sox?  Or a Red Sock?

Meanwhile back at the original question ....

One player in the Boston Red Sox team is called:

 	a Boston Red Sox Player

I don't know what the other one is called.	:-)

	Steve

435.5Sexist!COMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSWed Nov 18 1987 11:031
    Re .4: "Lone Soxman"? Shouldn't that be "Lone Soxperson"?
435.6Talk to the Sox...PSTJTT::TABERAlimentary, my dear WatsonWed Nov 18 1987 11:205
>                                  -< Sexist! >-
>
>    Re .4: "Lone Soxman"? Shouldn't that be "Lone Soxperson"?

No, they don't allow women to play on the Red Sox.
435.7must be a law against itCOMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSWed Nov 18 1987 12:134
    Really? Isn't there a law against it? Women play cricket here
    (and football and rugby come to think of it), but then only girls
    play baseball here (actually its called rounders and is rather like
    softball) :-)
435.8you're sexist and you didn't even know itVIDEO::OSMANtype video::user$7:[osman]eric.sixWed Nov 18 1987 17:0017
You're sexist too !  you referred to a

	Red Sox person

Why not a

	Red Sox Perdaughter

??

See? Sexist!

You need to be more careful.  How about

	Red Sox Perkid

/Eric
435.9De Charybde en ScyllaYIPPEE::LIRONThu Nov 19 1987 03:3319
> You need to be more careful.  How about

>	Red Sox Perkid


    The "kid" bit would be ok, but "Per" is totally unacceptable
    since it means father in French (P�re). It would be a male
    chauvinist provocation.
    Similarly Merkid must be excluded.
    
    How about
    
    	Red Sox Parentkid
    
       
    roger
    
    
                   
435.10Unfair to invertebrates!CHIC::PETERSE Unibus PlurumThu Nov 19 1987 04:1520
>	Red Sox Perkid

>    	Red Sox Parentkid

You are all absolutely correct. The term 'Lone Soxman" which I offered was
thoughtlessly provocative. All other attempts to not upset anyone have
neglected the fact that they are offensive to other living creatures, such as
worms and lice. Indeed a term which restricts itself to living organisms
excludes the vast majority of matter, which is non-organic. 

I therefore propose that a completely abstract term is the only suitable course
to follow, and so I beg to suggest that the appropriate term is: 

	Lone Sox Entity
	
	(with apologies to nonentities)
	
		Steve

By the way, who is the other player?    
435.11PASTIS::MONAHANI am not a free number, I am a telephone boxThu Nov 19 1987 22:226
    Until this note I just thought Red Sox was something that Boston
    patriots shouted about, something like the Union Jack. Now I learn 
    that it is a category of entities.
    
    Can you fly an entity from a flagpole? Or does that count as disrespect
    for entities too?
435.12Long live A & C.GAOV06::POMPHRETTWed Nov 25 1987 18:153
  Re: .10
  Who is ANother player, not THE other. I think he's on first!
  
435.13A pair of Sox?CHIC::PETERSE Unibus PlurumThu Nov 26 1987 09:0012
Re .-1

The base note asked:

>    Please settle a bet.  What is ONE player on the Boston Red Sox called?
>A Red Sox?  Or a Red Sock?

Which made me wonder who the other player was. Now you tell me there are more
than two players in the team. How many Sox do you have over there? 

	Steve
		:-)
435.14Two pairHOMSIC::DUDEKCall me Dr. BrevityTue Dec 01 1987 19:347
    RE .13
    
    <<How many Sox do you have over there?>>
    
    Two:  The Red Sox and the White Sox
    
    Spd (Chicagoan)