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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

387.0. "Respective, but maybe not respectable..." by ERIS::CALLAS (Strange days, indeed.) Thu Jul 23 1987 14:27

From:	RHEA::DECWRL::"MATTHEWS%[email protected]" 23-JUL-1987 11:31:43.20
To:	callas%star.dec@decwrl
Subj: Most curious statement of the week                                        

        Overheard at the Iran-Contra hearings, 7/23/87:                         

Secretary of State Schultz : "Yes, that was at a dinner that had been           
                               arranged by our respective wives."               

    
    Doesn't Schultz's use of "respective" imply that he and the other
    person have at least one wife in common? 
    
    	Jon
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387.1Bring Back Al HaigRUTLND::SATOWThu Jul 23 1987 16:2531
According to the _Handbook of Technical Writing_, 

	`Respective' is an _adjective_ that means "pertaining to two or
	more things regarded individually."

		Example   The committee members prepared their 
			  respective reports.
				. . . 

	`Respective' [is] often unnecessary because the meaning of
	individuality is already clear.

It seems to me that either:

	- Schultz and the other person have wives in common
	  and it was necessary to differentiate them

	- Schultz felt that it was necessary to make it clear that he
	  and the other person do not have wives in common, or

	- the use of `respective' was unnecessary.


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As a side note, it's unfortunate that Alexander Haig is not still Secretary of 
Stating.  If he testimonied, I doubt that he could North the committee, but 
he certainly would not have dullized the committee as much as the current 
Secretary, who Schultzes people to sleep.

Clay
387.2AKOV76::BOYAJIANI want a hat with cherriesFri Jul 24 1987 03:057
    re:.1
    
    I quibble with one part of your "side note". I would say that
    the proper expression should be "Secretarying of State", not
    "Secretary of Stating".
    
    --- jerry
387.3going to go take a napWEBSTR::RANDALLI'm no ladyFri Jul 24 1987 09:185
    I think the respective secretaries of their respective departments
    should go back to their respective offices and leave the rest of
    us to our respective peace.
    
    --bonnie
387.4RedundancyDICKNS::BENNETTFri Jul 24 1987 14:536
    "Respectively" in Schultz's sentence is redundant.
    
    According to Follet, this word is pointless whenever it is not
    given the task of clarifying a member-to-member correspondence
    between one series and another.
    
387.5DICKNS::BENNETTFri Jul 24 1987 14:551
    Make that "respective".
387.6Respectively SchultzUSAT03::MICHAELFri Jul 24 1987 17:512
    Let's cut all this jargon out, let's just call the guy and tell
    him screwed up....