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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

347.0. "the whole nine yards?" by USMRM2::GROSS (Onward: Through the Fog) Fri Apr 17 1987 14:14

         Where does this expression come from?  I hear it, I use it,
    I don't know what it means.  
         Do you?
    						Thanks,
    						Curious Steve
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347.1I believe everything I hearCREDIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanFri Apr 17 1987 14:2510
    I've heard that it refers to the amount of material in a traditional
    kilt. Apparently makers of cheap kilts cut the cost by putting in fake
    pleats that use considerably less material, but a well-made
    high-quality kilt uses the whole nine yards. 
    
    However, it seems more likely to refer to American football -- your
    manager goes the whole nine yards, leaving you with fourth and one.
    Punt formation . . .

    --bonnie
347.2From a cement mixer?APTECH::RSTONERoyFri Apr 17 1987 14:2812
    There was an earlier discussion of this, either in this conference
    or some other.  There were a number of opinions offered, but the
    one which seemed to draw some agreement is that it came from the
    construction industry when they are pouring concrete.  I believe
    the reference is to the cement mixer trucks which are capable of
    holding nine (cubic) yards of wet concrete.  Hence when you dump
    the full load, you've used (or gone) the "whole nine yards".
    
    Feel free to challenge the above or to offer other suggestions.
    I'm just passing along what I read somewhere else, and make no claim
    as to its authenticity.
    
347.3Ship up or ...?ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayFri Apr 17 1987 14:447
    Another thought:  it might have a nautical origin.  A "yard" or
    "yardarm" is that pole used to support a sail on a mast.  If the
    wind is right and for a multi-masted vessel, they want to get maximum
    speed, they might use a full nine yardarms -- or a "full nine yards,"
    which expression might have been corrupted by evolution.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
347.4see topic #134SKIVT::W_PIPERbill piperSat Apr 18 1987 03:460