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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

335.0. "I've lost a verb" by GENRAL::MICHAEL (Greg Michael x2398) Tue Mar 17 1987 13:49

        I seem to have lost a verb I once had. Can anybody out there
        remember it?
        
        If you want to eat, you can command somebody, " Feed me!"
        
        What do you say if you're thirsty?
        
        There really is a word that means give me something to drink....
        
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335.1DECWET::SHUSTERPracticing VAXistentialistTue Mar 17 1987 13:522
    Liquidate me!
    
335.2BISTRO::TIMMERRien Timmer, Valbonne.Wed Mar 18 1987 04:452
    Slake? Assuage?
    
335.3Imbibulate?ECLAIR::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKWed Mar 18 1987 06:171
    
335.4"Gimme a drink" has been used ...ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayWed Mar 18 1987 10:139
    You could use "Refresh me," if used after "Feed me" (as in "food
    and refreshment."
    
    "Slake" would be correct.
    
    "Water" could be used (as in "watering the horse"), though I'd be
    uneasy if I was demanding milk that way instead of water.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
335.5A hose, a hose, my kingdom for a hose!BAEDEV::RECKARDWed Mar 18 1987 13:270
335.6quench meVIDEO::OSMANEric, dtn 223-6664, weight 146Wed Mar 18 1987 16:118
How about

	"Quench me!"

By the way, I can't think of "feed me" without thinking of the recent
moo-V "Little Shop of Horrors", thoroughly entertainly.

/Eric
335.7this title contains two e's !VIDEO::OSMANEric, dtn 223-6664, weight 146Wed Mar 18 1987 16:1618
It's interesting alongside this question to notice that we have:

	"I have quenched my thirst."

but no

	"I have ??? my hunger."

You could say "satisfied" or "satiated" but there's no word spcifically
meaning to satisfy one's hunger, as there is with thirst.

Funny true story:

	We have a foreigner eat dinner with us one night.  My mother
	asked if she'd like some more chicken.  She said "No thanks,
	I'm full of it!"

/Eric
335.8How about, "I have fulfilled my hunger"?ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayWed Mar 18 1987 17:1118
    Re .7:
    
    On an allied subject, many's the time in literature and films I've
    heard people say, 
    
    "Eat hearty."
    
    But until I saw a Cecil B. Demille film (whose title I forgot;
    it was a western), I never heard anyone say, as the villian did
    to a  henchman,
    
    "Drink hearty."  [As the henchman was drinking, the villian shot
                      him in the back.]
    
    Nor have I heard it since. 
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
335.9ERIS::CALLASSo many ratholes, so little timeWed Mar 18 1987 21:393
    How about, "I have sated my hunger"?
    
    	Jon
335.10AKOV68::BOYAJIANA disgrace to the forces of evilThu Mar 19 1987 03:4312
    This reminds me of a sequence from a comic called STIG'S INFERNO,
    a very funny take-off on Dante, among other things. In this scene,
    a rather large demon is preparing to munch on Stig, who's trying
    to convince the demon that this isn't a very good idea:
    
    Stig: "Has it occurred to you that some people don't *want* to be
	   eaten?"
    
    Demon: "Really? Imagine, people not wanting to be eaten. They want
    	   to be *drunk*. It just doesn't make sense."
    
    --- jerry
335.11 Wet my whistle ? YIPPEE::LIRONThu Mar 19 1987 04:351
    
335.12Irrigate me?MAY20::MINOWI need a vacationThu Mar 19 1987 15:161
335.13_-=-_VIDEO::OSMANEric, dtn 223-6664, weight 146Thu Mar 19 1987 15:516
Re:    sating hunger ?

	Is "sate" as related to hunger as "quench" is to thirst ?  Or
	is "sate" a general word meaning "to satisfy".

/Eric
335.14MYCRFT::PARODIJohn H. ParodiThu Mar 19 1987 16:107
  Re: .13

  Wait a second -- quench applies to many things other than thirst...

  JP

335.15ERIS::CALLASSo many ratholes, so little timeThu Mar 19 1987 16:476
    From my tiny AH:
    
    sate -- 1. To satisfy completely or fully. 2. To indulge to excess;
    surfeit. [Prob. < OE sadian.]
    
    	Jon
335.16BEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Mar 19 1987 19:2737
    In Roget's Thesaurus, "quench" leads to:
    
         gratify, satisfy, sate, satiate; slake, appease, allay,
         assuage, quench; regale, feed, feast; do one's heart good,
         warm the cockles of the heart
         
    and "drink" leads to :
    
         ingest, eat, imbibe, drink; swallow, devour, ingurgitate;
         engulf, engorge; gulp, gulp down, swill, swill down, wolfe
         down, gobble
    
    and
    
         sorb, absorb, adsorb, chemisorb or chemosorb, assimilate,
         engross, digest, drink, imbibe, take up or in, drink up or
         in, slurp up, swill up; blot, blot up, soak up, sponge;
         osmose; infiltrate, filter in; soak in, seep in, percoloate
         in 
    
    and
         
         drink, drink in, imbibe, wet one's whistle [informal]; quaff,
         sip, sup, bib, swig [informal], swill or guzzle [both slang],
         pull [informal]; suck, suckle, suck in or up; drink off or
         up, toss of or down, drain the cup; wash down; toast, drink
         to, pledge; tipple, booze. 
         
    I tried "feed", hoping it would lead to something for which the liquid
    equivalent would be nearby, but the best I could find (not including
    the above) was: 

         provision, provender, cater, victual; feed; forage; fuel, gas, gas
         up, fill up, top off, coal, oil, bunker; purvey, sell.
    
    
    				-- edp 
335.17BISTRO::TIMMERRien Timmer, Valbonne.Mon Mar 23 1987 07:144
    Re .7
    
    I have stilled my hunger ??
    
335.18good imperitive formREGENT::MERRILLTime flies when you&#039;re having font.Mon Mar 23 1987 17:3810
    .16 certainly "innundated" us !
    
    
    I believe the correct nomination is "slake!"
    
    	RMM
    
    
    
    
335.19"full"REGENT::MERRILLTime flies when you&#039;re having font.Mon Mar 23 1987 17:434
    re: .7, .17  Try this:
    
    My gastronomic satiety admonishes me that I have attained the ultimate
    state of deglutition consistant with dietetic integrity!
335.20USATSL::LILLYTue Mar 24 1987 08:497
    re: .16
    
    
    
    BURP!!
    
    Excuse me, please.
335.21TALLIS::MATSUOKAMasamichi @LTN1-2/B17Tue Mar 24 1987 09:067
    
    Whenever my backpacking partners say "hydrate me!," I have to fight
    the temptation to feed them lye.  The backpackers often use the
    expression, "gorp the hunger."   Gorp is a high-calorie mixture
    of various nuts, raisins, and M&Ms which is usually the main course
    for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and all snack breaks in between.
    
335.22go up, gulp great gobs of gorp!VIDEO::OSMANEric, dtn 223-6664, weight 146Wed Mar 25 1987 10:335
Yes, GORP stands for

	Good old raisins and Peanuts !


335.23This one has staying power ...GENRAL::JHUGHESNOTE, learn, and inwardly digestWed Apr 08 1987 20:276
    One that Roget's Thesaurus omitted .... and a Shakespearean quotation,
    to boot:

    

    Stay me ... with flagons!
335.24I have FED my hunger.HBO::KELLIHEREd KelliherTue Apr 14 1987 14:393
    
    R�: .7
    
335.25Bottoms up!SSDEVO::GOLDSTEINTue Apr 14 1987 21:428
    Re: .24
    
    One doesn't feed hunger anymore than one drinks thirst.  The statement
    in .7 is correct.  We can slake our thirst, but there is no
    corresponding word for hunger; the best we can do is satisfy or
    satiate it.
    
    Bernie
335.26BEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Apr 15 1987 10:0014
    Re .25:
    
    > One doesn't feed hunger anymore than one drinks thirst.
    
    One does not eat hunger any more than one drinks thirst.  It is
    entirely possible to feed a hunger.
    
    However, "feed" is still not the desire word because "quenched" implies
    not just drinking, but drinking until satisfied, whereas "feeding a
    hunger" does not imply the corresponding feeding until the hunger is
    gone.
    
    
    				-- edp 
335.27Peace!ERASER::KALLISHallowe&#039;en should be legal holidayWed Apr 15 1987 10:256
    Re .25, .26:
    
    I suppose one can appease one's hunger.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
335.28I suppose, but . . .CREDIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Apr 15 1987 10:394
    But what if you don't like peas?
    
    --bonnie
    
335.29All we are saying...isCLT::MALERWed Apr 15 1987 12:121
    Give peas a chance.
335.30:-)ERASER::KALLISHallowe&#039;en should be legal holidayWed Apr 15 1987 12:186
    
    Re .29:  What are you?  Some sort of mouthpeas?
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    [Actually, I rather like peas.  Does this make me a peasnik?]
335.31Starve a cold, FEED a fever...HBO::KELLIHEREd KelliherWed Apr 15 1987 12:513
    
    "Is there any peas in Hungry...no, fish"
335.32with a dab of butter on them!CREDIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Apr 15 1987 12:574
    Though I'm very fond of carrots, I advocate peasful coexistence.
    
    --bonnie
    
335.33BISTRO::TIMMERRien Timmer, Valbonne.Wed Apr 15 1987 18:378
    In .17 I suggested to 'still' the hunger. My dictionary tells me
    it is a valid (though Old English) word.
    
    The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary has:

        	to assuage, allay  (an appetite, desire)
    
    
335.34Eat, drink, and be preciseSSDEVO::GOLDSTEINWed Apr 15 1987 20:0618
    Re: .26
    
    >>One doesn't feed hunger anymore than one drinks thirst.
    
    >One does not eat hunger any more than one drinks thirst.  It is
    entirely possible to feed a hunger.
    
    Yes.  Your analogy is more precise.
    
    I should have said that one doesn't feed a hunger any more than one
    _gives drink to_ a thirst.  I have a problem with feeding a hunger;
    we eat in order to satisfy a hunger, but I don't see how that
    constitutes _feeding_ the hunger.  We drink in order to satisfy
    a thirst (some of us, of course drink for other reasons), but is that 
    the same as giving drink _to_ a thirst?  The concept seems wrong.
    
    Bernie
    
335.35BEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Apr 15 1987 21:537
    Re .34:
    
    American Heritage (boo, hiss) has for "feed":  "4. a. To minister to;
    gratify:  _fed their appetite for the morbid_".
    
    
    				-- edp
335.36To combine two notes ...ECLAIR::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKThu Apr 16 1987 06:161
    MacDonaldize?
335.37Bring on the feed bag ...ERASER::KALLISHallowe&#039;en should be legal holidayThu Apr 16 1987 09:4313
    Re .36:
    
    _That's_ sartisfying one's hunger?  Rather "Burger_Kingize." ;-)  
    
    Re "feeding" a hunger:
    
    "Feeding" is one of those ambiguous verbs.  "Feeding a fire" means
    making it bigger, stoking it, etc.  Therefore one meaning of "feeding"
    a hunger would be to make the person more hungry ("The pornographic
    film fed his hunger for having sex," doesn't mean that he wants
    to be celibate).
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
335.38de-hungerized...ESPN::KELLIHEREd KelliherThu Apr 16 1987 12:0710
    
    That's peas-izely my point !
    Carrot you see that ?

    R�: .27
    
           A fire requires fuel just like we do.
    
Ed
        
335.39disgusting practiceDECWET::SHUSTERPracticing VAXistentialistThu Apr 16 1987 18:192
    Eat every carrot and pea on your plate!
    
335.40Getting hungrySSDEVO::GOLDSTEINThu Apr 16 1987 20:148
    Re: .35
    
    I suppose we can _minister to_ a hunger, but in the sense of feeding...
    it isn't the hunger we feed, but the hungry organism - just as it
    isn't the thirst itself we give drink to, but the thirsty organism.
    
    
    Bernie
335.41Doing quell, thanksSSDEVO::GOLDSTEINThu Apr 16 1987 20:415
    How about "quell."  One of its meanings is "to put an end to," so
    one could in that sense be said to quell one's hunger.
    
    Bernie
    
335.42Both MacDonalds and BurgerKing will BISTRO::TIMMERRien Timmer, Valbonne.Fri Apr 17 1987 04:413
    
    Frenchfrize your hunger...
    
335.43How about, "Stifle it, Edith!"BAEDEV::RECKARDFri Apr 17 1987 09:060
335.44be still, be stilledCREDIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanFri Apr 17 1987 10:247
    .33 is correct -- the verb is "to still" one's hunger.
    
    You will find it used in a lot of older English literature, including,
    if memory serves, the King James Bible.
    
    --bonnie
    
335.45Then the doctor feed us his bill.TKOV52::DIAMONDMon Feb 26 1990 08:319
    The original question in .0 never seemed to be answered.
    
    I saw a lot of people feed each other to the flames though.
    And feed flames to each other.
    
    How did the conversation die down?  They didn't feed water
    to the fire; they ---<what>--- water to it?
    
    Hmm, I guess a hose can feed water to it but, um, hmmm.
335.46p'r'apsCALS::GELINEAUWed Jul 07 1993 11:553
quaff?

angela