Conference thebay::joyoflex

.0>    A fellow vanpooler ...


	A *WHAT*????

-- Sam

    To double-R: to sound sincere while lying through your teeth.
    
    "I double-Red that speech.  Whew!"
    

    A month or so ago, following a fire in a Boston skyscraper, the
    news reports announced that older buildings are now required to
    be "sprinklered."

    I just received the following error report from NMAIL:
    
-------------------------------------
The following error message was returned whilst sending to
FOO::BAR                                 ^^^^^^

    %NMAIL-E-LOGLINK, error creating network link to node 11LANG
    -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown

This is a hard (irrecoverable) error.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
----------------------------
    
    Not bad!  Is this a new record?  Two words in one error report?
    Excuse me whilst I think about these for a while...

RE: .4

I don't suppose you'd consider that the person who wrote it was Brittish? 
Both "whilst" and "Irrecoverable" are correct Brit-English.

					>>>==>PStJTT

    "Any noun can be verbed." - General Haig
    

    Stop nouning around!
    

    New in the Ultrix system, "iconification" and "iconify".
    
    Susan
    

    No, not new, old. We've tried fighting this, but Ultrix people don't
    really seem to understand the issue, and soon they're back to their
    Ultrix again.
    
    	Jon

From a character who became pregnant:

"It's my fault. I should have made sure <Male character>
was _condomized_."

    Re .11:
    
    .... as in the motel bathroom:  "....-ized for your protection".

         VERB, INC.
    
        We have plenty of nouns verbized for general use!  Subtract and
        adverbs, too!
    

    "Visioning NPO's Future"
    
    
    MATT

    re .8
    
    If a process is iconified does that place it in iconostasis?

    I think icon, I think icon.
    

    Note 322 reminded me of one that some friends and I use for
    "going to the bathroom":
    
    "Excuse me, but I must facilitate."
    
    --- jerry

    Re .4 (.5)
    
    What exactly was your complaint about 'whilst' and 'irrecoverable'?
    While I understand from .5 that these forms are not in American English
    usage, where is the 'verb alert'?
    
    Jeff.

    Re: .4
    
    "Irrecoverable" is as acceptable in American English as it is in
    British.
    
    Bernie

    re: .17
    
  > What exactly was your complaint about 'whilst' and 'irrecoverable'?
  > While I understand from .5 that these forms are not in American English
  > usage, where is the 'verb alert'?

    --classic flame technique, of course.  Under the rules of flaming,
    I am required to ignore common sense, propriety, rules of logic,
    and, of course, the subject of the note.  Next week I move to the
    White House Staff and explain our non-intervention in Central America
    in terms of our non-sale of arms not having anything to do with
    hostages.

    I attended a marketing seminar this morning.  One of the speakers
    referred to "decision-making in a rapidly _complexing_ environment".
    I assumed that he was trying to say that the environment was becoming
    more complex (as opposed to developing a complex).
    
    Has anyone come across this "verb" elsewhere?

    MLNOIS::HARBIG
                  Could he have said " in a rapidly *complicating*
                  environment" or is this just as horrible ?
                                    
                                Max

    I don't recall posting this elsewhere in this Conference, so:
    
    I once received a small advertisement from an office-supplies outfit
    that was trying to sell me one of those magnetic boards on which
    people can put notices of where they plan to be, or where one can
    place items so that they can be synchronized with calendar events.
    
    I was advised to:
    
                        SCHEDULIZE!
    
    That's the first time I've seen a verb "verbized."
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    I recently had the misfortune of overhearing someone describe how
    he was 'definitizing' some product requirements (or some such).
    I assume that 'definitize' is marketeer for 'define'.
    
    Though this doesn't actually constitute verbatizing a noun, it seems
    to fit this note - I got a good laugheration out of it, anyway...
    

    re:-.2
    Of course you can verbify a verb.  After all, if you can nounify
    "function" into "functionality", why can't you verbify "schedule"
    into "schedulize"?
    
    Let's liaise on the rate adaption functionality. -- CCITT talk.
    
    If you really want bad taste, try the "colorized" version of a classic
    film.  But that's a trademark.

    I received a mail message today detailing good software practices. 
    Included was advice to:
      "Develop software as completely as possible before texting."

    I concluded that "texting" was a typo for testing, however, for
    a while, I thought that perhaps someone figured
    that if code is produced by coding, then text is produced by texting!
    

              Anyone like to be 'TASKED'?  :-)

              jc
              p.s. Where's has Bonnie gone?

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    I've been tasked with developing a demo .....

    In STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN, Khan uses "task" as a
    transitive verb when he said of Kirk, "He tasks me!"
    
    The American Heritage Dictionary includes two definitions of
    "task" as an transitive verb, with no condition (i.e. that it
    is colloquial or slang) placed upon it.
    
    --- jerry

    
    
     Perhaps there is hope that one/some of our notesfile(s) will 
     become major motion picture(s)..... :-)
     jc        
     

    Task, meaning "to force, put, or set (a person) to a task; to impose
    a task on; to assign a definite amount of work to" is listed in
    the OED as dating from 1530.
    
    	Jon
    
    Bonnie is no longer at DEC. She was a contractor, and is now off
    working on her novel. 

    Re .29
    
    So .. the book first then the film ?

    I just read this in a project notes file, where a developer complained 
    about certain error conditions.  He then demanded, "Is there anything
    we can do to robustify this routine?"
    
    --bonnie
    
    p.s. I'm back!  Full time, permanent.  How sweet of you to miss me.
    

    I extracted this from WORDS::FRIENDS to be reposted here.
    What intrigued me was the thought, "typo or deliberate pun?"
    
>>    I have two other alarm clocks.  Their names are Tabbatha and Silver.
>>    Yes, they're feline friends.  At about 5:45, after my alarm has
>>    been going for about 15 minutes, They jump up on the bed and are
>>    purring their loudest.  Both of them nudge me with their cold, wet
>>    noses and say, "Mom, it's time to get up and go to work so that
>>    you can support us in a manor we are accustomed to!"
    
     Dan

    Re: .32
    
    Full-time and permanent.  That's certainly good news.  Your
    absence from this conference was noticed and your contributions
    were missed.
    
    Bernie

    I secondise Bernise thesise
    
    Four-eyes

    re:.34
    
    Actually, it was her *non*-contributions that were missized.
    
    --- jerry

    The izification of nounized verbs (or is that verbized nouns?)
    in the last few replize is extremely horribilizing.
    
    >M

    Your horribilization is notificated.
 
    --bonnie   

    Re .37 (Jerry):
    
    >Actually, it was her *non*-contributions that were missized.
    
    I believe it's possible to missize contributions (i.e., declare
    them larger or smaller than they actually are), but it would be
    more difficult to missize _non_-contributions.   
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    Welcome Back Bonnie!

    Re .33 - You keep your cats in a manor [sic]? Mine live in the conservatory.

    Mine live in the yard.  But they do have their own bathroom.
    
    --bonnie

    Re .42 (Richard), .43 (Bonnie):
    
    Cats may live in manors or conservatories; they deserve to live
    in palaces, and in utmost luxury. 
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    Where do I go to get to be a cat?
    
    --bonnie

    I'm glad people stopped izizing. (-:
    
    Dan

    Re: .37
    
    > Actually, it was her *non*-contributions that were missized.
    
    It does seem as if it ought to work that way, but it doesn't.  Perhaps
    a clearer way to put it is that we miss what we no longer have,
    not what we do have.
    
    Bernie

    re:.40
    
    But there were no contributions from her. How can we miss what
    doesn't exist?
    
    Actually, .47 has it exactly right. Or perhaps we would be better
    off saying,
    
    "Bonnie, we missed having you contribute."
    
    --- jerry

    My 14-year-old daughter was reading us bits from the New Hampshire
    constitution while she did her history homework the other night.
    Some of the passages were rather awkward and clearly old-style
    English, while others , equally awkward, might have come out of a
    1980 history text. 
    
    When I asked her about the difference, she reported, "They
    have the original constitution, and then they have an explanation
    that's teenagerized."
    
    --bonnie

    Re: .49
    
    >  and then they have an explanation that's teenagerized.
    
    That sounds like bringing the mountain to Mohammed...or is it 
    necessary to spoonfeed teenagers nowdays?

    I just reports them, I doesn't explain them.  
    
    --bonnie

In case you were wondering, the only valid "-ize" words are the following
list of 617 words.  All others are "chah zuh rye":

absolutize accessorize acclimatize achromatize actualize aerosolize agatize
agenize aggrandize agnize agonize alchemize alcoholize alkalinize alkalize
allegorize alphabetize aluminize amortize anagrammatize analogize anathematize
anatomize anesthetize anglicize animalize anodize antagonize anthologize
anthropomorphize aphorize apologize apostatize apostrophize apotheosize apprize
arabicize arabize arborize archaize aromatize arterialize assize atomize
attitudinize authorize automatize autotomize avianize azotize bacterize baize
balkanize baptize barbarize bastardize bestialize bipolarize bituminize bize
bolshevize bonderize botanize bowdlerize braize brutalize bureaucratize
burglarize canalize cannibalize canonize capitalize caponize capsize capsulize
caramelize carbonize carburize catabolize catechize categorize catheterize
catholicize cauterize centralize channelize characterize chromize chronologize
cicatrize cinematize circularize civilianize civilize classicize cocainize
cognize collateralize collectivize colonialize colonize commercialize
communalize communize compartmentalize comprize computerize conceptualize
concertize concretize conservatize constitutionalize containerize
conventionalize conveyorize copolymerize criticize crystalize crystallize
curarize customize cutinize cyclize deaminize decarbonize decarburize
decentralize decimalize decolonize decolorize defeminize definitize deformalize
dehumanize dehypnotize deionize delocalize demagnetize demilitarize
demineralize demobilize democratize demonetize demonize demoralize
demythologize denationalize denaturalize denicotinize denuclearize deodorize
departmentalize depersonalize depolarize depoliticize deputize desacralize
desalinize desensitize desexualize despiritualize destabilize desterilize
desulfurize detribalize devitalize devocalize diabolize diagonalize diazotize
dichotomize dieselize digitalize digitize dimerize diphthongize disharmonize
disorganize disprize disseize divinize dogmatize dolomitize dooxidize dramatize
dualize easternize ebonize economize editorialize elegize emblematize
emotionalize empathize emphasize emprize energize epigrammatize epithelialize
epithelize epitomize epoxidize equalize eroticize eternalize eternize
etherealize etherize ethicize etymologize euhemerize eulogize euphemize
euphonize evangelize exorcize expertize extemporize exteriorize externalize
factorize familiarize fanaticize fantasize faradize fascistize federalize
feminize fertilize feudalize fiberize fictionalize fictionize finalize fluidize
focalize formalize formularize formulize fossilize fractionalize fragmentize
fraternize gallicize galvanize gelatinize generalize geologize geometrize
germanize ghettoize glamorize glamourize globalize gorgonize gormandize
gothicize governmentalize graecize grangerize graphitize grecianize grecize
gutturalize harmonize heathenize hebraize hellenize heparinize hepatectomize
hepatize heroize historicize homogenize homologize hospitalize humanize
hybridize hyperbolize hyperpolarize hypnotize hypophysectomize hyposensitize
hypostatize hypothesize hysterectomize idealize idolize illegalize
immaterialize immobilize immortalize immunize impersonalize individualize
industrialize initialize insolubilize institutionalize intellectualize
interiorize internalize internationalize iodize ionize isomerize italianize
italicize itemize jacobinize japanize jargonize jarovize jeopardize jesuitize
journalize kyanize labialize laicize latinize legalize legitimatize legitimize
liberalize linearize linize lionize liquidize literalize localize logicize
luteinize lyophilize lyricize lysogenize macadamize magnetize maize marbleize
martyrize masculinize materialize matronize maximize mechanize melanize
melodize melodramatize memorialize memorize mercerize mesmerize metabolize
metalize metallize metastasize methodize metricize micronize militarize
mineralize miniaturize minimize misprize missionize mobilize modernize
moisturize monetize mongrelize monopolize monumentalize moralize motorize
municipalize musicalize mutualize mythicize mythologize narcotize nasalize
nationalize naturalize nebulize necrotize neutralize normalize notarize
novelize obelize occidentalize odorize opsonize optimize organize orientalize
orthogonalize ostracize outsize overcapitalize overemphasize overprize oversize
oxidize ozonize paganize palatalize palletize parameterize parametrize
parasitize parenthesize parfocalize particularize pasteurize patronize
pauperize pectize pelletize penalize peptize peptonize personalize phagocytize
phasize philosophize phlebotomize phosphatize photosensitize photosynthesize
pictorialize picturize pidginize pintsize plagiarize plasticize platinize
platitudinize pluralize podzolize poeticize poetize polarize polemicize
polemize politicize pollinize polygamize polymerize popularize porcelainize
pressurize prize professionalize proletarianize prologize prologuize
propagandize proselytize provincialize prussianize psychologize publicize
pulverize quantize racemize radicalize randomize rationalize realize
recapitalize recognize recrystallize reflectorize regionalize regularize
rehumanize relativize remilitarize remonetize reorganize republicanize reseize
resize revitalize revolutionize rhapsodize rhythmize ritualize robotize
roentgenize romanize romanticize routinize rubberize ruggedize ruralize
russianize salinize sanitize satirize scandalize schematize schismatize
scrutinize sectarianize secularize seize sensitize sensualize sentimentalize
serialize sermonize sexualize signalize simonize singularize sinicize size
skeletonize slenderize sloganize soberize socialize solarize solecize solemnize
soliloquize solubilize sonnetize sovietize specialize spiritualize stabilize
standardize stencilize sterilize stigmatize stitutionalize structuralize
stylize suberize subjectivize subsidize substantivize subtilize suburbanize
sulfurize summarize surprize syllogize symbolize symmetrize sympathize
synchronize synopsize synthesize systematize systemize tantalize technicalize
technologize temporalize temporize tenderize territorialize terrorize tetanize
teutonize theatricalize theologize theorize thymectomize tilize totalitarianize
totalize traditionalize tranquilize tranquillize transistorize transparentize
traumatize trichinize trivialize tropicalize tualize tyrannize underemphasize
undersize underutilize unionize unitize universalize urbanize utilize vacuumize
valorize vandalize vaporize velarize ventriloquize verbalize vernalize
victimize visualize vitalize vitaminize vocalize volatilize vowelize vulcanize
vulgarize weftwize westernize winterize womanize

/Eric

>In case you were wondering, the only valid "-ize" words are the following
>list of 617 words.  

On what basis do you make this claim to mangling the English language? Half
the words in your list use "-ise" in my dictionary.

>All others are "chah zuh rye":

Uh?

Gavin

    
    Welcome back from the author that which elevatized the questation.

    But the real questions are:
    
    .32 - didja finishize the novel? Will it be storyized, trivialized
          serialized or memorized?

    .52 - Eric/ how did you validize the/your list?
    jc

    Re: .52
    
	"In case you were wondering, the only valid '-ize' words are
    	the following list of 617 words.  All others are 'chah zuh rye':"

    That is, now that you have chazuhrized them.
    
Lew Lasher

    at least Eric contributized a list :-\

    re: .54
    
    Since you were so kind as to ask: I novelized, I submitized, and now 
    I waitize.  It's only been a week, so I suppose it's unreasonable
    of me to feel that they are taking a long time to make up their
    minds.  I mean, obviously it's such a work of art that one look
    will convince them of its value.
    
    Then I'll be best-sellerized.
    
    I'll allow it to be storyized, trivialized, or whatever if they
    pay me enough money.  Memorized is up to my loyal public.
    
    --bonnie

      Thanks to Eric for listizing and notizing all the valid -ize-words.  

      Dave C.

    I've quietized my tongue enough.  It's time to stop analyzing who
    contributized what, what words have been validized, and start
    verbalizing once again.
    
    {*Paul*}

    It has come to me that there is no term to define the changing of
    a noun into a verb by adding _ize_. We say _verbized_ but that is
    just what we have done, changed a noun into a verb. 
    
    In honour of Eric's list, I propose that we now accept a new word
    into our personal dictionaries (if enough of us use it, it might
    make it into a real dictionary).
    
    Ericize - to change a noun into a verb by the addition of the suffix
     	      _ize_
    
    Roger

    
�     < Note 311.53 by CLARID::WYNFORD "Uncle Loon" >


    � >All others are "chah zuh rye":

    � Uh?
           
    Chozzerei (transcription only approximate) -- a Yiddish word,
    it's used to mean "garbage" or "trash" - in reality, it means
    "pork."
           
    					andrew

Let me guess, was it a search on 'ize' in the american decspell 
dictionary??

    
        Well, I am appreciative that Eric has compiled the list. 

        Re. 60. We should honor Eric for his contributions yet Ericize
        just doesn't have the 'umph' of a great honor. I would counter-
        propose ( How's that for a word? ) that we name the noun to verb
        transitioning (:-)) 'osmanize'. Of course, people might confuse
        it with singing sappy love songs as a brother and sister duet but
        if we persist, we shall persevere. (  A tautology ? )
    
        However, this prompts another idea whose time has long past. We,
        the JOY_O_FLEXers should coin and use new words to replace those
        words/phrases that we find truly offensive.....

        Examples   ( actually, at the top of my list.... )
        
        Old word
        --------
        Prioritize                          Prioritate   ( :-)) 
        one-on-one ( is that hyphenated?)   [any sensible replacement]
   
        and so on...
    
        Back to the boredom of RDB,
        jc
        

    Heard a new one on "Wiseguy" Monday night.
    
    Seems this renegade CIA-type is on the phone with some nameless
    government contact, discussing the planned military takeover of
    a small island nation. After naming the guy who wants to be in charge
    of the coup, the CIA-type says, "...and when it's all over, we'll
    de-physicalize him."
    
    Beam me up, Scotty?
    
    -b

    To create a new verb from a noun
    
    Add one of the following
    
    -ize
    -ise
    -ify
    -icate
    -ificate
    
    Then when you have inventificated, ensure that you creationise a
    back formed noun from your new verb, and if possible an adjective
    and adverb for a full set.
    
    We would then have nounification, verbification, adjectification,
    and adverbization.
    
    Arrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!
    
    stuart
    

     -< When a verbalized noun is abused as another noun, is it renouned >-

And, when the foot has the other shoe on, is it reverberated?

    and four "quotes" make a gallon...
    
    

	Verbing weirds language.    

"Callers may simply dial up or modem in to inquire."

This is the first time i've noticed modem as a verb. 
The difference in prepositions is also interesting.

Have you tried to modulator/demodulator in?

The quote is from Insight magazine, April 3-10, 1995.
The article describes a service to compare the voting records of congress
folk to their campaign promises. You can dial up 1-800-622-7627 or
modem in to gopher:neu.edu according to the article.

As the net gets more commercial we might soon encounter
"I'm Ernie Boch, modem on in!"

    G'day,
    
    .... only if Ernie Boch has a computer connection... have you asked
    him?
    
    djw
    8-}
    
    

re: "modem in"

the use of "fax" as a contraction of facsimile has, in my opinion,
become accepted as a regular verb in English.  "to modem" is not unheard
but still sounds awkward. 

You should be prepared for the interesting situation where a central 
European person (say French or Italian) asks you in English ;

	"Please fax me ....................."

			OR

	"I'm just going to fax you ........"

and see if you can retain your composure until the end of his/her
sentence.

/Chris.

    well, I haven't really DIALed a phone in a decade
    so I suppose it's time to start using a new verb anyway.
    
    ed

    I think the French use "touch" (or "toucher") for the verb meaning "to
    work with the telephone user interface".
    
    Roy

    I've seen several documents that used the word "punch" to replace
    "dial."
    
    The possibilities are mindboggling.

French uses "composer" for telephone manipulation, effectively
covering rotary dial or DTMF touch-pads.

A verb "faxer" is in current usage but the Academie Francaise
would not like to admit it.  They would probably suggest
something like "telecopier" as the appropriate verb.

There is no French verb equivalent of "modem-on-in" to my
knowledge.  In fact I am stumped to even think of a French
equivalent for plain old adjectives like "dial-up" or
"dial-in".

/Chris.